PGE-1 Injection Progress Thread

[goldmember]

That might be true, but did they sustain the erection for 3-5 hours and/or include stretching exercises?

I don't think fibrosis will be an issue... i was talking to a guy from another board that had been injecting PGE1 for years as treatment for his ED and he hasn't experienced any fibrosis.
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Yes I also read this on a male Impotence site. Some men have been injecting many times a week for years before sex.
I also read of some guys taking PABA and Bromelian to help prevent plaques so I am going to order some of that as it is quite cheap.

I was exchanging e-mails with a couple of guys that have been injecting Trimix for years before having sex and they told me they have not gained any size since starting the injections.

 

[bigman1]

It probably also has less of a growth effect on those who truly suffer from ED.

 

[dogsdoodahs]

No, they used the Trimix solely for erectile dysfunction and were not doing any stretching or jelqing.
One of the guys was getting erections for about 3 hours though.

That might be true, but did they sustain the erection for 3-5 hours and/or include stretching exercises?

 

[spinner2]

I injected 5mcg a few days ago and had a response for only 1hr 45 minutes. It might have been stress, from girl problems, but hopefully I don't have to adjust the dosage again. It's way too soon for the effectiveness to change, so I doubt that was it (pge-1 has been refrigerated since I began injections). I injected 6.25 mcg 45 minutes ago, so I'll see how I respond.

 

[spinner2]

I saw that it's been nearly a month of this, so I pulled out the ruler a minute ago and did a bpfsl check. It looks like I've put on a little length. My girth has increased noticeably since I started, which is pretty clear during sex. I'm also coming back from a decon break, so it's too early to make any conclusions. I'll see whether I hit a 1" bpfsl gain within a few months.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

Spinner,

when the plunger doesn't go down, it means your not in the spongy tissue. if you force it down you'll feel a sharp pain. The reason being the fluid is trying to force the space around it where as in the spongy tissue, there's lots of space for the fluid to bounce around.

Practicing manual Penis Enlargement broadens the Suspensory ligament running a top the penis (the cord some refer to as the septum) and hence makes it more difficult to inject. if you inject into the lig/septum you wont get into the CC chambers. So if there's resistance, simpley withdraw and apply elsewhere.

I also find that if you compress, with your hand, the opposite chamber, a little blood is forced into the side your injecting, making it easier.



Also, I read a mention of injecting into the CS. The CS is a much lower pressure system than are the CC and the engorgement of the CS isn't done via the veno-occlusive system, but rather through the contractions of the PC/BC muscles. So injecting into the CS has next to no effect.

Initially I had a priapisim when I injected 7.5 units, but now for some reason I can inject around 12 units without a priapism. I dont even get 100% erect. around 70%. Although I manually 'edge'.

I have been in the 'titrating' stage for the past 2 months almost and have done 2 or at most 3 injections per week.

 

[sikdogg]

The suspensory ligament is different than the septum... the suspensory ligament is attached to the penis by the pubis. It only attaches at one particular point. The septum is the point where the tunica of both CC chambers come together and runs the whole length of the penis.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

i used to think so as well. But I was told not to inject any higher than 2 O'clock because i'd be injecting into the ligament ? ? ? and that this.. 'ligament'.. runs on the top side of the penis until just below the glans.

so I assumed that this 'ligament' is the one and only suspensory ligament.

 

[spinner2]

Yes, I've figured out that the proper injection technique is between 9 and 10 o clock. Any lower and I hit the CS, any higher and I hit something bad, whatever it is. I've also been on only 2-3 injections per week, while I'm figuring out the details. I usually have only a moderate 70% response from the drug, unless I edge, but I'm not too concerned about that. From the patent literature that seemed like a 100% erection wasn't necessary for gains.

 

[sikdogg]

i used to think so as well. But I was told not to inject any higher than 2 O'clock because i'd be injecting into the ligament ? ? ? and that this.. 'ligament'.. runs on the top side of the penis until just below the glans.

so I assumed that this 'ligament' is the one and only suspensory ligament.

I never understood why the suspensory ligament is called a ligament and not a tendon because a ligament is supposed to be a connective tissue that connects bone to bone while a tendon is a connective tissue that connects bone to muscle. That said, having a ligament (or tendon) running along the top of the penis doesn't make much sense... The cord that you feel running along the top of the shaft is the septum.

 

[sikdogg]

Yes, I've figured out that the proper injection technique is between 9 and 10 o clock. Any lower and I hit the CS, any higher and I hit something bad, whatever it is. I've also been on only 2-3 injections per week, while I'm figuring out the details. I usually have only a moderate 70% response from the drug, unless I edge, but I'm not too concerned about that. From the patent literature that seemed like a 100% erection wasn't necessary for gains.

According to the patent document gains can be made with as little as a 40-70% erection level if erection is sustained for at least 3 hours so you should be fine...

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

I never understood why the suspensory ligament is called a ligament and not a tendon because a ligament is supposed to be a connective tissue that connects bone to bone while a tendon is a connective tissue that connects bone to muscle. That said, having a ligament (or tendon) running along the top of the penis doesn't make much sense... The cord that you feel running along the top of the shaft is the septum.

ya i agree.. but then again, maybe the penis is considered a bone.:blush:

 

[Smertrios]

Do you have enough control over your erection duration to "over inject" but only slightly and then make the erection subside when the times up?... that said I'll bet its your diet that causes alot of the fluctuation in duration length.

Maybe supplementing with a multi-vitamin and/or l-arginine would help with the repeatability of your injection?... I'm just guessing!

 

[spinner2]

Do you have enough control over your erection duration to "over inject" but only slightly and then make the erection subside when the times up?... that said I'll bet its your diet that causes alot of the fluctuation in duration length.

Maybe supplementing with a multi-vitamin and/or l-arginine would help with the repeatability of your injection?... I'm just guessing!

Doing both of those. My diet is very good these days. Aspirin(drops prostaglandin levels) and benadryl can help in case of high dose. I've been keeping it up at 6.25mcg lately, and it's good for 3+ hours consistently, so no more adjustments in the meantime.

 

[spinner2]

I just injected 6mcg and I'm only getting a 50% response after 10 minutes. I'm gonna up the dose a bit tomorrow, I think.

 

[spinner2]

Is there any possibility that the PGE-1 solution isn't stable, and is somehow decreasing in strength? Based on my research, it should be stable for at least 6 months, but my sensitivity to injections has been decreasing significantly lately. Maybe I should reconstitute new powder once monthly for injections.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

Is there any possibility that the PGE-1 solution isn't stable, and is somehow decreasing in strength? Based on my research, it should be stable for at least 6 months, but my sensitivity to injections has been decreasing significantly lately. Maybe I should reconstitute new powder once monthly for injections.

spinner

the first time I injected 7 mcg, I suffered a priapism that required a 'special injection' by my doctor to subside. Nothing seemed to bring it down, I did around 180 squats (I know, my legs were gone!), and I took Sudafed, and it did nothing. So the injection was the last option, IC, and it hurt like HELL.

7.5 mcg seemed to produce a good 2 hour erection, at 100% for a while, and then all of a sudden the response dropped to 50%. So I upped it to 9 mcg, still 50-70%. Right now I'm injecting anywhere around 10-11 mcg, and edge manually. I did 13 mcg and got 100% response for 3 hours (which scared me, but it did go down on its own).

So I'm guessing, the body builds an immunity to this.

 

[spinner2]

spinner

the first time I injected 7 mcg, I suffered a priapism that required a 'special injection' by my doctor to subside. Nothing seemed to bring it down, I did around 180 squats (I know, my legs were gone!), and I took Sudafed, and it did nothing. So the injection was the last option, IC, and it hurt like HELL.

7.5 mcg seemed to produce a good 2 hour erection, at 100% for a while, and then all of a sudden the response dropped to 50%. So I upped it to 9 mcg, still 50-70%. Right now I'm injecting anywhere around 10-11 mcg, and edge manually. I did 13 mcg and got 100% response for 3 hours (which scared me, but it did go down on its own).

So I'm guessing, the body builds an immunity to this.

That's good to hear. I'm a little scared about upping my dose, based on how strong my reactions were at the beginning. What was the injection given to kill the priapism? I might try to get that.

 

[sikdogg]

I don't think it's the body building an immunity but the PGE1 is degrading. I believe i recall reading that PGE1 will degrade fairly quickly once it has been reconstituted. In powder form, it will remain stable for months.

 

[spinner2]

I don't think it's the body building an immunity but the PGE1 is degrading. I believe i recall reading that PGE1 will degrade fairly quickly once it has been reconstituted. In powder form, it will remain stable for months.

I'm not so sure. I've read that PGE-1 is stable for 3 months at pH 7 when stored in a refrigerator. Stability increases as pH decreases from 7: reaching the maximum stability at pH of 3. I stored the solution in bacteriostatic water which has pH of 5.7, so the solution should be stable for over 3 months. I reconstituted exactly 5 weeks ago, and have stored it in a refrigerator since.

Have you switched solutions yet VK? I know Dr. Adams gives out 2 months supplies at once, so if your reaction is the same after switching solution we could easily verify this.