I had an experience today where I injected twice and each time the plunger just wouldn't go down. Does anyone have an explanation for this? I'm fairly sure I injected the right spot, since I have a moderate response now.
 
i read that if the plunger doesnt go down then you have hit the cs structures i.e too deep. do you think this is what happened?
 
I don't think so, but I guess it's possible. I stretched a ton before I injected and was turtling some.

I've found it to be impossible to stretch more than 30 minutes and have a good injection later that evening.
 
My next step is to get 1mg IGF-LR3, and do CC injections along with the PGE-1. I'll probably do this in a little over a month, to insure I'm fully comfortable with injection. I'm thinking of doses at 20mcg, but I'm not sure yet.

Further down the road I'm looking into PGF-2a injections as Goldmember mentioned. I've been doing some google searches, and I can't find enough mentions of intracavernous injections. I need to figure out the proper effective dose before I try this. I'm going to continue research for a while.
 
I can't believe that you're injecting into your penis. This is either genius or madness.

Either way it's great for us all to learn from so I take my hat off to you spinner for being so daring. Great report too.
 
spinner2 said:
My next step is to get 1mg IGF-LR3, and do CC injections along with the PGE-1. I'll probably do this in a little over a month, to insure I'm fully comfortable with injection. I'm thinking of doses at 20mcg, but I'm not sure yet.
I think that 20mcg is way more than you need... bodybuilders typically use 20mcg but they're injecting into much larger muscle groups. I think 5-10mcg is more than enough.

Further down the road I'm looking into PGF-2a injections as Goldmember mentioned. I've been doing some google searches, and I can't find enough mentions of intracavernous injections. I need to figure out the proper effective dose before I try this. I'm going to continue research for a while.
I speculate that you will regret doing this... side effects for injecting PGF-2A is pretty harsh. Shortly after injecting (typically within 20 minutes), you will feel sick to your stomach and just as this subsides, you will experience diarrhea. The larger the dose, the more explosive the diarrhea...This is the typical side effect bodybuilders experience when injecting PGF-2A into any bodypart. Oh, i also forgot to mention that the injections are VERY painful. Good luck with that...
 
TomdW said:
I can't believe that you're injecting into your penis. This is either genius or madness.

Either way it's great for us all to learn from so I take my hat off to you spinner for being so daring. Great report too.
Bro, injecting into the penis is nothing new... Injecting PGE-1 or Trimix directly into the penis is a fairly common ED treatment adn has been doen for years..
 
sikdogg said:
I think that 20mcg is way more than you need... bodybuilders typically use 20mcg but they're injecting into much larger muscle groups. I think 5-10mcg is more than enough. I speculate that you will regret doing this... side effects for injecting PGF-2A is pretty harsh. Shortly after injecting (typically within 20 minutes), you will feel sick to your stomach and just as this subsides, you will experience diarrhea. The larger the dose, the more explosive the diarrhea...This is the typical side effect bodybuilders experience when injecting PGF-2A into any bodypart. Oh, i also forgot to mention that the injections are VERY painful. Good luck with that...
From what I've read bodybuilders who have had good results with IGF-LR3 have had to use more than 30mcg. I don't think 20mcg will be too much, although I will start with a lower dose and may reconsider. I need to do some research on what to mix the powder with, though. From what I've read acetic acid will kill cells/promote scar tissue, which was consistent with Supra's later problems.

As for PGF-2a: If the dosage for Penis Enlargement is anything like the dosage for bodybuilding, then it will be too cost restrictive for me to pursue. I think the nausea/diarrhea side effects are only present systemically, so I would be safe as long as I didn't hit a vein. You are right that the injections would be very painful, but fuck it. I will also need 6 time-spaced injections in each sitting, which will suck. I'm a little confused about how this will work to speed gains, because from my understanding it restricts erections (smooth muscle contraction). I guess it has strong effects on the tunica that will allow for massive gains given stretching sessions.

The only things stopping me from PGF-2a injections are lack of information and possible cost. I'm convinced that I can find a way to make this work for me, although it will probably take a few months.
 
Well I just saw Sikdogg's earlier post. Awesome link for cheap PGF-2a. Any clue on what else is in the solution, Sik? I won't inject stuff in my dick unless I'm sure it won't cause scar tissue. I'm gonna do search some bodybuilding forums and send them an email for to try and find out.
 
The effects of PGE-1 have still been intensifying a bit. I think they're about topped off now: 6.25mcg gives me a 6-7 hour effect, and 3.75mcg gives me a 3 hour effect. I'll go back and forth depending on how much free time I have. After the halfway point I can end an erection any time I want with benadryl (slows blood flow to dick), tylenol (drops prostaglandin levels systemically), and ejaculation. Pain is a non factor now. I believe it was mainly a result of poor injection technique, and higher doses than necessary. There is still pain, but it's not debilitating, leaving me free to read/do homework. I'm on POTABA 2 grams/2x a day, because 1g/4x a day doesn't work with my schedule. The PGE-1 has cleared out veins/improved bloodflow in general. Getting spontaneous erections all day, even on off-days. Won't measure for a few months, though.
 
sikdogg said:
Bro, injecting into the penis is nothing new... Injecting PGE-1 or Trimix directly into the penis is a fairly common ED treatment adn has been doen for years..

New to me. I still think it's more risky than manual Penis Enlargement but that is a totally uninformed opinion. Hopefully this thread will help me to learn more about it.
 
bigman1 said:
How is the POTABA taken?
POTABA is only taken orally, as far as I know. Some people have discussed a topical, but I've never heard of one actually being made.
 
It's definitely more risky than manual Penis Enlargement, especially if you try to do everything from scratch with no experience.
 
Yes I did, but I wouldn't necessarily trust what they sell. Make sure you buy USP grade, or you're taking a risk with your health. There should be other sources available for only moderately cheaper that would be much safer.

I took that risk, but I've been taking a lot of risks lately.
 
do you think paba could work in place of the potaba? I know it would most likely take a larger dose to do it. At $11 dollars per 100g, the paba powder looks like it'd be easier on the wallet.
 
Some say PABA is just as good, most say POTABA is better. The creator of the patent preferred POTABA, and knows much more than I, so I'll go with that. I think PABA is better than nothing, but POTABA doesn't cost too much more.
 
yeah I thought of that after I posted. The only thing is this I know is usp grade and I can't find a potaba usp supplier.
edit: I did find at 500g supply of usp grade paba for $30. I just wonder what would be the dosage to equal the potaba results.
 
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I wouldn't worry about USP grade for PABA. PABA is just a B-vitamin, so the derivatives shouldn't be harmful. POTABA, on the other hand, is the potassium salt, and potassium can be dangerous. That's why USP grade is good for POTABA.

I'd try doing google searches for labs selling POTABA, and then email them to ask whether it's USP grade. Worst case scenario you could use City Chemical. I haven't had any side effects.
 
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