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Started my injections today. First injection I estimated 7.5mcg as a good titration starting point. Estimation was excellent. It's been exactly 1 hour since injection and my erection is about 50% now, down from about 75%. It will be gone fairly soon. Tomorrow I'm going to shoot up with 10mcg and see how it goes. My beginning routine will probably be 10mcg shot 4 times per week. Potaba 4g/day, with 2g taken at once when I inject. 30 minutes-1 hour stretching per day, along with the use of DMSO before stretching some of the time. About 20mins of the stretching per day I plan to do with SD BIB hanging, along with light jelqing between and after sets. IGF-LR3 will probably be added later on. Measurements will be done maybe every two months. My measurements have always been so all over the map I don't really trust them too much. I'll probably just measure BPFSL gains, since those are the most reliable. I expect gains to be 'square' (length gains~girth gains). If this isn't the case I'll make a note.
 
2 hours and it's still at 40-50%. Looks like 7.5 mcg might be the right dose. I still think I'll try 8.75mcg tomorrow night.
 
Great to see you have started your new routine Spinner :) I was useing 10 mcgs a while ago but had to stop because i went on hoildays,i noticed a small increase in length not much it was probley because my erections were so strong,only takeing it for 2 weeks aswell,i was only takeing Caverject by itself with no potaba because i found it to hard to obtain were did you get yours from Spinner???:(
I feel this is the form of Penis Enlargement that im going to performing when i get back along with added stretches and hopefully Potaba:)
 
8incyclops said:
Great to see you have started your new routine Spinner :) I was useing 10 mcgs a while ago but had to stop because i went on hoildays,i noticed a small increase in length not much it was probley because my erections were so strong,only takeing it for 2 weeks aswell,i was only takeing Caverject by itself with no potaba because i found it to hard to obtain were did you get yours from Spinner???:(
I feel this is the form of Penis Enlargement that im going to performing when i get back along with added stretches and hopefully Potaba:)
Two weeks is too early to make any sort of decision. Finding POTABA is pretty easy. Just do a Google search for Potassium P-Aminobenzoate. Make sure you get USP grade. There are a handful of sources out there.
 
I would think your best bet in terms of a measurement would be EL.

Do you have a source for the igf? If not I can help.

Do you plan on using media or receptor grade?
 
Yeah, I've got sources. I'm just a bit short on money, and need some other stuff which takes priority. I'll probably just use media grade IGF-LR3
 
I'm also gonna pick BPFSL to track gains, because my EL measurements are all over the place. BPFSL is easy for me to measure consistently.
 
Good luck mate! Don't mean to be a downer but be careful! I'd keep it at 7.5 if it has that effect on you. I had 2 priaprisms in 2 injections, practically had to bend and push the blood out, went down after about 4 hours.
 
I'm not gonna move it up. The second injection was even more painful than the first. 10mcg would be too much.
 
Can you describe how much pain? Maybe there is something that can be added as a pain killer so you can use the higher dose.
 
The pain, however, is a physiological indication that he should proceed no further, or if he does, very cautiously. I think adding a pain-killer would foolish at this stage wherein he is endeavoring to determine an appropriate dose for injections. Good luck Spinner, you're certainly a tasteful pioneer.
 
jqsderrida said:
The pain, however, is a physiological indication that he should proceed no further, or if he does, very cautiously. I think adding a pain-killer would foolish at this stage wherein he is endeavoring to determine an appropriate dose for injections. Good luck Spinner, you're certainly a tasteful pioneer.


i think the pain he is experiencing is due to the PGE-1 (causes inflammation = pain), taking an ibuprofen would be ok and would not affect what you are trying to do. remember the primary goal is to stay engorged for 3-4 hours. in my personal opinion if it hurts too much to last that long then you should take the pain killer to allow you the correct amount of time.
 
Does anyone know how this situation is handled by our favorite medical professional - Dr. K. Adams? Would he simply reply, to a patient that is reporting pain, that this is a consequence of inflammation and is simply correctable by consuming (400grams+?) ibuprofen? I suppose that I'm more conservative than either of you and, based upon the limited amount of information contained in Spinner's last post about the extent of his pain, I would be remiss to just say 'ignore it' by eating some pain-killers and carry-on. However, perhaps this is how it is done. I'm new to the consideration of using PGE-1 as a method for enlarging the penis, and have not read into the subjective reports written by the few Penis Enlargement'ers who have attempted this technique. In short, I guess what I'm trying to say is: is it really safe to ignore the pain? - is this the tried-and-true method here?
 
From what I have been reading about PGE1 pain is a very common effect. Sodium Bicarbonate is used as a pain killer along with PGE1 sometimes. I have not been able to find injection concentration information for sodium bicarbonate however...
 
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Smertrios said:
From what I have been reading about PGE1 pain is a very common effect. Sodium Bicarbonate is used as a pain killer along with PGE1 sometimes. I have not been able to find injection concentration information for sodium bicarbonate however...

Sodium bicarbonate? NaHCO3? Baking Soda?
 
Ken Adams now uses a quadmix, with chemicals added to reduce pain. PGE-1 is what's doing the work, though, and I wanted to keep everything as simple as possible. I don't mind the pain too much. It's the kind of pain synonymous with fast gains from my experience. More of an ache all around, with a bit of sharp pain towards the head that comes with tunica length gains. My LOT is slowly but surely raising, so I think the limiting factor on my length gains with the PGE-1 is going to be how fast I can stretch out my ligs.
 
Yep thats the stuff... I'll re-google it and see if I can find that info. I am sure the purity is much higher than the good-ol arm-and-hammer "refridgerator grade" =P

Found it! http://doctor.medscape.com/viewarticle/406375_3 - Google Search

The medscape website seems to let non-users login but only when connecting from google.com so you have to first click on the link above to search google then click on the search result to see the page I am referring to.

Read down to the part "Penile pain a problem." and you will find the following phrase about using Sodium Bicarbonate

"Coadministration of either sodium bicarbonate or a local anaesthetic (procaine) may ameliorate penile pain without affecting the erectile response."
 
Wikipedia speaks of using a 9 parts to 1 lidocaine-sodium bicarbonate solution to relieve pain. The article you link to, does it mention how the NaHCO3 is prepared for, I suppose, sc injection?
 
you wouldn't happen to know of any sources for PGF-2a?

Also, what are media and receptor grades?
 
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