Whats best after a 6 month decon?

goinfor11x7 said:
I keep forgetting you're only 22. You come across as very wise for such a youngster!!! You remind me of the best of my students!!!


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I have an English exam coming up soon on the Old man and the sea by Ernest Hemingway. I actually never even finished high school and now I go to college. I have a maths exam to, It is kinda hard for me to do both tho cause I am dyslexic. Never would have thought it right, It is funny how things turn out.

Thanks lol
 
This is one of the reason why I think Penis Enlargement has some kinda of effect of the human brain. It just crazy, I think Penis Enlargement is much more than just getting a bigger penis
 
lol i woke up this morning to 3 pages of comments was not expecting that haha! Thanks for the input guys.

I have most of the days to Penis Enlargement so i can do whatever really. When i got all my gains, i found length came alot faster than girth! I did the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] consisting of the manual stretches and Jelqs. I believed the combo of them both helped as you all said before.

Am i best going down that route again then? Can you seperate the routine doing Stretches AM and the jelqing PM before i go to bed or is it best to stretch and jelq straight after, or it not matter?

Would this routine be benificial (changes, additions and comments on this are very welcome!) -

AM
> Manual stretches (all directions)
> A-Stretch

PM
> Jelq


Also what is the difference between A-STRETCH and DLD Blasters????? dont get it!

Thanks for all advise, hope you can help out on the above stuff.
PS: Good look in exams as well to you pandora!!! :)
 
bulc9 said:
lol i woke up this morning to 3 pages of comments was not expecting that haha! Thanks for the input guys.

I have most of the days to Penis Enlargement so i can do whatever really. When i got all my gains, i found length came alot faster than girth! I did the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] consisting of the manual stretches and Jelqs. I believed the combo of them both helped as you all said before.

Am i best going down that route again then? Can you seperate the routine doing Stretches AM and the jelqing PM before i go to bed or is it best to stretch and jelq straight after, or it not matter?

Would this routine be benificial (changes, additions and comments on this are very welcome!) -

AM
> Manual stretches (all directions)
> A-Stretch

PM
> Jelq


Also what is the difference between A-STRETCH and DLD Blasters????? dont get it!

Thanks for all advise, hope you can help out on the above stuff.
PS: Good look in exams as well to you pandora!!! :)
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Thanks:) I don't know the difference myself, but the first thing that came to my mind is maybe A stretch is just the position where Blasters means the kegel then reverse kegel, to reach that max stretch:)
 
Yeah i think thats what i have found to be the only difference after looking at the vids n that! ill try mixture of both!

Does the routine seem solid enough provding enough for both the length and the added jelqs for the blood flow?

I did my first set of jelqs before, did 600 at 50-70% erect, and it felt, good. the only change i would make to that routine is im going to jelq AM coz im always horny then lol

Does it matter what you do 1st, and do you have to do them straight after eachother or can you split!
 
bulc9 said:
Yeah i think thats what i have found to be the only difference after looking at the vids n that! ill try mixture of both!

Does the routine seem solid enough provding enough for both the length and the added jelqs for the blood flow?

I did my first set of jelqs before, did 600 at 50-70% erect, and it felt, good. the only change i would make to that routine is im going to jelq AM coz im always horny then lol

Does it matter what you do 1st, and do you have to do them straight after eachother or can you split!
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It is best to do Girth work first, because after a stretch work out you might not be able to get erect. 100% erection is recommended for girth workouts.

I think what is best is Jelqing then stretching then finish off later on with more jelqing, And stretching again if you have it in you to do that.

Or hang later on but make sure to jelq first.

Well just remember if your not feeling much after the first couple of weeks then up your intensity by following the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] but only with a big difference you must add the sock:)
 
Actually, girth before length doesn't work well. If you're using more intense methods like [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] or dual compression squeezes there is a lot of fluid accumulation just under the skin from the huge increase internal pressure and this causes the skin to slide more easily during manual stretches. BIB discussed the idea of lengthening the vertical fibers first and working the lateral fibers once length gains have been made as this makes the lateral bonds weaker as the matrix of the tunica is thinner. I subscribe to this thought simply because girth is the area that most guys struggle with, while length seems to move fairly easily depending on the type of routine someone is following.

For length after such a long lay off I would go back into the basic routine. I know it sounds too simple, but after such an extended break you will be able to see some rapid gains from the most basic of the basics. I'd stick with an AM or mid morning length routine with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] support afterward. Make sure that you get 4-6 hours in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] per session and then move into your girth work in the evening probably before bed. I'd keep the volume down for the first week with no more than 3 rotations in all directions and 300 jelqs to start. Remember you've been off for a long while, so condition for about 2 weeks or so and then move into a bit more intense routine.

The progression I've used after my decon break was similar to this and I've now moved into supersetting blasters with RB's fake arm stretch (high angle) and a SD stretch to really stretch the ligs. It's almost like a post-exhaust set where you hit the ligaments in all angles and then with the last stretch it's a finishing move. I've found that this particular order makes the SD stretch very intense, as the entire force of the stretch is placed on the ligaments at the attachment point. This seems to be the right way to go as far as intensity and volume.

I think that there's a tendency to want to jump into Penis Enlargement 1000% even after an extended layoff but the problem with that is that you're not in the same sort of condition as you were when you laid off. This is a very good thing becaucse the goal is for the tissue to become softer and more readily stretched. Keep everything in perspective and continue to move forward but that doesn't mean jumping in with both feet in the deepest end of the pool. It's a challenge to not get overzealous but it is worth it as making gains with the basics is so easy and it doesn't require a ton of effort or time. Would you rather spend an hour total on Penis Enlargement per day or 3 hours per day with the same results?
 
millionman said:
Actually, girth before length doesn't work well. If you're using more intense methods like [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] or dual compression squeezes there is a lot of fluid accumulation just under the skin from the huge increase internal pressure and this causes the skin to slide more easily during manual stretches. BIB discussed the idea of lengthening the vertical fibers first and working the lateral fibers once length gains have been made as this makes the lateral bonds weaker as the matrix of the tunica is thinner. I subscribe to this thought simply because girth is the area that most guys struggle with, while length seems to move fairly easily depending on the type of routine someone is following.

For length after such a long lay off I would go back into the basic routine. I know it sounds too simple, but after such an extended break you will be able to see some rapid gains from the most basic of the basics. I'd stick with an AM or mid morning length routine with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] support afterward. Make sure that you get 4-6 hours in the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] per session and then move into your girth work in the evening probably before bed. I'd keep the volume down for the first week with no more than 3 rotations in all directions and 300 jelqs to start. Remember you've been off for a long while, so condition for about 2 weeks or so and then move into a bit more intense routine.

The progression I've used after my decon break was similar to this and I've now moved into supersetting blasters with RB's fake arm stretch (high angle) and a SD stretch to really stretch the ligs. It's almost like a post-exhaust set where you hit the ligaments in all angles and then with the last stretch it's a finishing move. I've found that this particular order makes the SD stretch very intense, as the entire force of the stretch is placed on the ligaments at the attachment point. This seems to be the right way to go as far as intensity and volume.

I think that there's a tendency to want to jump into Penis Enlargement 1000% even after an extended layoff but the problem with that is that you're not in the same sort of condition as you were when you laid off. This is a very good thing becaucse the goal is for the tissue to become softer and more readily stretched. Keep everything in perspective and continue to move forward but that doesn't mean jumping in with both feet in the deepest end of the pool. It's a challenge to not get overzealous but it is worth it as making gains with the basics is so easy and it doesn't require a ton of effort or time. Would you rather spend an hour total on Penis Enlargement per day or 3 hours per day with the same results?
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Thanks for the reply mate. Alot of important info you have given across there. I know what you mean, because i havent been doing anything for so long i just want to dive in there and do loads. So the thing is to keep it simple for the 1st 2-3 weeks doing basically the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words]: -

AM
Manual stretches then [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]
PM
300 Wet jelqs at 50-70% erect

When i do come to up the intensity would i then need to add different stretches such as DLD Blasters etc and up the jelqs to 600+? I did my first full session yesterday and it felt good, only did the SO left right and middle stretch tho, it hurt abit after the jelqing in the morning!

So is it important that stretches are done first then jelqing later at night, or is it just personal prefference? If i stuck to that routine above keeping it simple you think this would bring good gains??? I find stretches bit difficult in the morning as i always get hard everytime i touch my dick ha, but if i did the mid afternoon? Also after the stretches should i put the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] on straight away or jelq 100 times to keep it in an extended state then put the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] on?

Thanks for your help MM. Any advise on the above? cheers
 
This is what bigger has said.

Bib said:
jq,

I performed jelqing after sets for a minute, and for 10-20 minutes after a session, in order to restore complete circulation, and bath the tissues in fresh oxygenated blood.

I did NOT do this to increase girth. I did not gain upper shaft girth until I started doing extreme Ulis, after my length gains were made.

There is no way I could have made girth gains by jelqing anyway, because I did not use enough force to do so. I know the force needed to deform the lateral bonds of the tunica, and what fatigue from girth work feels like. I never came close to this level of stress while jelqing.

So to sum up, I do recommend light jelqing to restore circulation, while working on length. But nothing heavy enough to deform the lateral bonds. You are correct that there can be cross linking between tunica layers if the stresses both ways are severe enough.

Bigger
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jqsderrida said:
I was just about to post Bib's comments myself. Thanks, Pandora.
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So what do you have to say about it then lol B.T.B Jelqing is really good. I can't believe nobody else has come up with anything yet that would increase the size of the ducts and what not behind the balls.
 
Pandora said:
So what do you have to say about it then lol B.T.B Jelqing is really good. I can't believe nobody else has come up with anything yet that would increase the size of the ducts and what not behind the balls.
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I think Bib's comments support my initial position.
 
jqsderrida said:
I think Bib's comments support my initial position.
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Yeah, but he did not go into to much detail about blood flow tho. And increasing the ducts behind the balls, to make a big pipe lol
 
BULC9, It is a bit easier to grip the penis when it doesn't have as much fluid under the skin, and it is a bit easier to wear the vac-extender as well. If your focus is length then I would definitely prioritize the length work in the mornings and then use jelqing as a base for circulation improvement and possibly some girth gains. I would work the newbie program for 2-3 weeks progress to 3 rounds utilizing at least 2 different angles. I would add 50 jelqs a session starting at 300 and moving to no higher than 600. Once you're ready then I'd move into blasters, fulcrum based stretches, squat stretches, or just work a super set with an intense stretch and a basic stretch. I think there is a lot to be gained from supersetting stretches like an A-stretch blaster with a high angle RB's fake arm stretch. This condenses the workout but also adds intensity as well as making the tissues more pliable using two different movements. The one things I think many of us miss is that while we are focusing work on the ligs or the tunica that based on the anatomy of the penis we can not completely "unload" one or the other, so while working an a-stretch blaster for ligament length the tunica is still receiving some of that load, and then adding to that a direct tunica exercise is going to hit the ligs as well. I've found this is the best way to up the intensity and keep the volume of the sessions managable.
 
millionman said:
BULC9, It is a bit easier to grip the penis when it doesn't have as much fluid under the skin, and it is a bit easier to wear the vac-extender as well. If your focus is length then I would definitely prioritize the length work in the mornings and then use jelqing as a base for circulation improvement and possibly some girth gains. I would work the newbie program for 2-3 weeks progress to 3 rounds utilizing at least 2 different angles. I would add 50 jelqs a session starting at 300 and moving to no higher than 600. Once you're ready then I'd move into blasters, fulcrum based stretches, squat stretches, or just work a super set with an intense stretch and a basic stretch. I think there is a lot to be gained from supersetting stretches like an A-stretch blaster with a high angle RB's fake arm stretch. This condenses the workout but also adds intensity as well as making the tissues more pliable using two different movements. The one things I think many of us miss is that while we are focusing work on the ligs or the tunica that based on the anatomy of the penis we can not completely "unload" one or the other, so while working an a-stretch blaster for ligament length the tunica is still receiving some of that load, and then adding to that a direct tunica exercise is going to hit the ligs as well. I've found this is the best way to up the intensity and keep the volume of the sessions managable.
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You realize that the techniques would target the upper shaft, and that having an upper curve, means that the upper shaft is smaller than the lower shaft. And that is why their is good gain potential from RB Fake arm stretches and the A stretch at high angles.

Where with somebody with not so much of an upper curve or say a downward curve, gains would not be so easy to come by with them techniques.

It would be good if DLD would go into more detail on his exercises and explaining what area is being hit with that certain exercise, maybe pictures highlighting the areas too.
 
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