Whats best after a 6 month decon?

Pandora said:
Yeah totally wrong, Vacuum hanging draws blood into the penis, After a Vice hanging set the penis may retract and all blood flow be lost, gone, disappear you get the idea. So you have to jelq the blood back into the penis, the same would apply to manual stretching, say after an hour or so of continues stretching maybe even more than that, you get the picture right:yes: because your clamping the penis off like a vice hanger.
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Ah... Ive never used a vice-hanger before and did not really ever think about the particulars of it. So, then, why doesn't everyone go the vacuum route? What about the relative importance of jelqing following a long [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] or [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] stretching session?
 
Pandora said:
Yeah totally wrong, Vacuum hanging draws blood into the penis, After a Vice hanging set the penis may retract and all blood flow be lost, gone, disappear you get the idea. So you have to jelq the blood back into the penis, the same would apply to manual stretching, say after an hour or so of continues stretching maybe even more than that, you get the picture right:yes: because your clamping the penis off like a vice hanger.
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I agree with you absolutely, P. All of this may lead to longer flaccids, but it sure as hell will RAISE hell with your erections.
 
goinfor11x7 said:
I agree with you absolutely, P. All of this may lead to longer flaccids, but it sure as hell will RAISE hell with your erections.
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Well, the purpose of hanging is not really longer flaccids, but, rather, longer and thicker (at least at the base) erections. In fact, (and I know that I am a vac-hanger), I have NEVER had stronger erections in my life than those I have following a good hanging workout (even many vice-hangers state much the same).
 
jqsderrida said:
I just dropped the question over at the Bib forum. We'll see what he has to say. ;) Bib's Hangers :: View topic - Jelqing and Hanging
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I bet you a million dollars he's says he used to jelq after every set, and that with out increased blood flow you will not gain. You see Jqsderrida these are Bib's words I am preaching, these are things I have pick up from him, these are his words.

He will say, one of the reason he did not do girth work when hanging with the bib is because it was to uncomfortable with the bib hanger. Then he will say about it effect the matrix, which don't get me wrong could be totally right.

But what about if you where lucky enough to realize gains from both longitudinal values and lateral values getting technical here, I suppose your killing two birds with one stone lol

I know what DLD preaches lol
 
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goinfor11x7 said:
I guess by "blood work" I do mean just jelqing--and at no more than 50%. This was my experience and it worked wonders for me--no red spots, no great discoloration, nothing--just fast gains. I recognize, however, that each man has to come to his own best routine, basically through trial and error.

Our man here is a relative newcomer and I'm concerned about his not overdoing it.

If there are other safe exercises that get your dick as full of blood as possible, for example, edging or ballooning, so be it. I always err on the side of not injuring myself. That's why on went off on Derrida, who accused me at one time of leading newbies down the injury path. That has never been my M.O.
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No I am not saying that, or we are misunderstanding each other. You agree that both length and blood work should be done together.
 
jqsderrida said:
Ah... Ive never used a vice-hanger before and did not really ever think about the particulars of it. So, then, why doesn't everyone go the vacuum route? What about the relative importance of jelqing following a long [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] or [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] stretching session?
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Same apply s for them I would do before and after to maximize blood flow.
 
Chacun a son gout, right Derrida? I wonder if you were doing just the jelq if you would be getting the same woodies. Probably, especially because of your age.

Bulc, do what's best for YOU!! YOU have to determine that. We can't. If I jelq and stretch, I always jelq first because it takes a lot more concentration and energy than stretching.

Here's my pitch for the wet jelq. It is messy, requires great concentration and energy, and is time consuming. The alternatives may very well work just fine, and I must admit that it was adding the stretches to my basic jelq routine that finally kicked my gains into high gear. Would I have reached the fast track without jelqing for three months? I doubt it.
 
Pandora said:
Same apply s for them I would do before and after to maximize blood flow.
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It seems to me, then, that one of the most efficient things one could do would be to pump before and after hanging a set (or stretching etc.). Perhaps I should further investigate the idea of implementing a pump into my routine.
 
goinfor11x7 said:
Chacun a son gout, right Derrida? I wonder if you were doing just the jelq if you would be getting the same woodies. Probably, especially because of your age.

Bulc, do what's best for YOU!! YOU have to determine that. We can't. If I jelq and stretch, I always jelq first because it takes a lot more concentration and energy than stretching.

Here's my pitch for the wet jelq. It is messy, requires great concentration and energy, and is time consuming. The alternatives may very well work just fine, and I must admit that it was adding the stretches to my basic jelq routine that finally kicked my gains into high gear. Would I have reached the fast track without jelqing for three months? I doubt it.
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To each his own, indeed.
 
Pandora said:
No I am not saying that, or we are misunderstanding each other. You agree that both length and blood work should be done together.
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Absolutely. I think what I'm saying has a lot to do with where I'm coming from. I gained length and girth with the jelq. I sometimes wonder if I had just kept on jelqing and never added the stetches in my fourth month, if I would have still gained the way I did. Not very scientific, are we?

P.E. is definitely an art, not a science, isn't it??

:P
 
jqsderrida said:
It seems to me, then, that one of the most efficient things one could do would be to pump before and after hanging a set (or stretching etc.). Perhaps I should further investigate the idea of implementing a pump into my routine.
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Go talk to BTC, he will help you their. That is what he does. I don't like pumping myself.
 
jqsderrida said:
Well, the purpose of hanging is not really longer flaccids, but, rather, longer and thicker (at least at the base) erections. In fact, (and I know that I am a vac-hanger), I have NEVER had stronger erections in my life than those I have following a good hanging workout (even many vice-hangers state much the same).
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Go for it, man!! I've had your experience with jelqing and stetching. We're all headed in the same direction, right? We're just taking different paths.

:P
 
goinfor11x7 said:
Absolutely. I think what I'm saying has a lot to do with where I'm coming from. I gained length and girth with the jelq. I sometimes wonder if I had just kept on jelqing and never added the stetches in my fourth month, if I would have still gained the way I did. Not very scientific, are we?

P.E. is definitely an art, not a science, isn't it??

:P
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Yes and a wonderful Art it is that has been given to us:P
 
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