MoS All Day Stretcher / All Night Stretcher! Feedback & Beta-Testers Needed!

One important quality... Easy tension adjustment. As you get a stretch, need to tighten up the tension.

Would be nice if the (waist) strap was like 1-1.5" thick, and could having a ratcheting buckle of sorts. I can't find any mini ratcheting buckles... But instead something like this:

Mini Buckle
 
gnome2;619224 said:
One important quality... Easy tension adjustment. As you get a stretch, need to tighten up the tension.

Would be nice if the (waist) strap was like 1-1.5" thick, and could having a ratcheting buckle of sorts. I can't find any mini ratcheting buckles... But instead something like this:

Mini Buckle
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i agree about the easy tension adjustment. that is why i like slider [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words][/words] more then other kinds. i'm not sure about a ratcheting mechanism b/c of the ratcheting noise. the buckle you linked i think would be better but looks to industrial.

want to see something funny. you said you cant find a mini ratcheting buckle. in the link you added look to the right of mini buckle on the side where they show similar products and on the one on the bottom (4th down) is a mini ratcheting buckle.
 
Yea-its gotta give you a chance to hit every possible angle, choose a wide range of intensity, be easily adjustable, really comfortable to wear, really hard to break, easy to put on and take off, provide comfort to be worn ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT, have a hanging attatchment, be hardly visible by other people, be adjustable to erections, not constrict the penis, BE able to be attatched in the beggining of the shaft (to provide expressive stretching). In other words- it should serve as the ultimate device- one that give is the comfort to hand (multiple angles if possible), can be used instead of any other PE piece of equipment, serve the purpose of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words], [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ANS[/words], Hanger, tunica, ligament and expressive stretcher. This is how the ultimate PE length device would look like, but I kinda dount its even possible to make it...
 
youknowme123321;619229 said:
want to see something funny. you said you cant find a mini ratcheting buckle. in the link you added look to the right of mini buckle on the side where they show similar products and on the one on the bottom (4th down) is a mini ratcheting buckle.
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Oh yes I had seen that - but it's 4.5" long... Not very mini.
 
Zambrodom3;619240 said:
Yea-its gotta give you a chance to hit every possible angle, choose a wide range of intensity, be easily adjustable, really comfortable to wear, really hard to break, easy to put on and take off, provide comfort to be worn ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT, have a hanging attatchment, be hardly visible by other people, be adjustable to erections, not constrict the penis, BE able to be attatched in the beggining of the shaft (to provide expressive stretching). In other words- it should serve as the ultimate device- one that give is the comfort to hand (multiple angles if possible), can be used instead of any other PE piece of equipment, serve the purpose of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words], [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ANS[/words], Hanger, tunica, ligament and expressive stretcher. This is how the ultimate PE length device would look like, but I kinda dount its even possible to make it...
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i believe DLD and lightning will create great device that included many things. but i don't think they or anyone will be able to put it all into one device. maybe the swiss can make a swiss PE pocket stretcher
 
youknowme123321;619305 said:
i believe DLD and lightning will create great device that included many things. but i don't think they or anyone will be able to put it all into one device. maybe the swiss can make a swiss PE pocket stretcher
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Yes, I just described the ultimate [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]/ANS system, but might be impossible to make such a system at all...
 
There will be as little sacrifice as possible and we will incorporate as much as we can from what the Brothers have suggested. There will always be room for improvement but I think we made the smartest move coming to the Brotherhood for ideas instead of springing a new device with no input behind it.
 
doublelongdaddy;619398 said:
There will be as little sacrifice as possible and we will incorporate as much as we can from what the Brothers have suggested. There will always be room for improvement but I think we made the smartest move coming to the Brotherhood for ideas instead of springing a new device with no input behind it.
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i can't think of a better way to get ideas for what would work best for your goals. especially since you have such a well PE educated group of men here to participate
 
fameloyal123;619410 said:
i can't think of a better way to get ideas for what would work best for your goals. especially since you have such a well PE educated group of men here to participate
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Yup, that is the reason this was never made secret, we wanted everyones participation to be sure what we put out is the best. It would be sinful not to use the extensive knowledge we have here.
 
doublelongdaddy;619420 said:
Yup, that is the reason this was never made secret, we wanted everyones participation to be sure what we put out is the best. It would be sinful not to use the extensive knowledge we have here.
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And this is what I really love about [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]! The Brotherhood, the communication, the bonds you can make with people around. Asking us was the best thing to do, I agree.

P.S- if it uses vacuum suction instead of constriction would be optimal I think. :)
 
Zambrodom3;619440 said:
P.S- if it uses vacuum suction instead of constriction would be optimal I think. :)
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That is the direction we are going in.
 
doublelongdaddy;619659 said:
That is the direction we are going in.
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Perfect! Really can't wait!!!! Take your time though, this is all that matters. If waiting years for its realease is gonna make it the device we want it to be- it is gonna be worth waiting every single second!!!! :)
 
Zambrodom3;619698 said:
Perfect! Really can't wait!!!! Take your time though, this is all that matters. If waiting years for its realease is gonna make it the device we want it to be- it is gonna be worth waiting every single second!!!! :)
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It will definitely not take years, we are pretty firm on things now, LIGHTNING is only looking for better parts on certain things. I hopep to see this happen within months.
 
doublelongdaddy;620497 said:
It will definitely not take years, we are pretty firm on things now, LIGHTNING is only looking for better parts on certain things. I hopep to see this happen within months.
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Great! I hope it does not turn out like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] (where it was expected to be released soon, but everyone had to wait a lot)... Take your time, worry not! Have you tried it? :)
 
Zambrodom3;620555 said:
Great! I hope it does not turn out like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] (where it was expected to be released soon, but everyone had to wait a lot)... Take your time, worry not! Have you tried it? :)
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i wonder if it will have the capability to fit DLD???
 
doublelongdaddy;620497 said:
It will definitely not take years, we are pretty firm on things now, LIGHTNING is only looking for better parts on certain things. I hopep to see this happen within months.
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can't flipping wait DLD!!!
 
doublelongdaddy;620497 said:
It will definitely not take years, we are pretty firm on things now, LIGHTNING is only looking for better parts on certain things. I hopep to see this happen within months.
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Fucking awesome. Any little snippets on what we can expect? Like the design/function. Nothing too targeted though as I don't want you all giving the idea away and someone beating you all to the punch.
 
From my own experience, I can tell Lightning/DLD care about [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] enough to fund something like this. A project like this can be a pretty big investment depending on things like outsourcing for parts or stateside parts manufacture. I'll give you guys an example of what I went through with Malehanger. There was a bit more involved that what I'm listing below details wise, but this is a good idea.

1) Taking a rough idea and hiring a design engineer to revamp the design and iron out bugs, make it unique. Then, having the design engineer take everything and turn it into design files for a CAD machine, and design files that a molding company can actually use:
Around $1,200 for several months of back and forth work. This guy was a one in a million. He worked a LOT cheaper than most design engineers would.

2) Digging around, calling around and getting referred to a molding company that can actually DO what you need? Hours, weeks, at least a few months. The first two molding companies in America quoted me between $15,000-$30,000 for making molds, prototypes and a first run of parts.

4) A few different sets of prototype parts at $250 each, going back to the design engineer to re-tweak design issues, finally getting it all right and then a final set of prototype parts for my final approval. Total cost around $1,000

3) Finally finding a molding company overseas who would work with me on a "medical device". Anything that touches the human skin is usually considered a "medical device" and many companies shy away from projects like this because they require special paperwork and clearance and sometimes certifications. Around $3,600 for the metal molds, $2,700 for a minimum order quantity of 2,000 units.

So, it's a lot more involved process than many people usually realize. This is a pretty condensed run down, and this is just for some molded plastic parts. No metal parts, no mechanical units, nothing really complicated.
 
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stillwantmore2;620625 said:
From my own experience, I can tell Lightning/DLD care about [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] enough to fund something like this. A project like this can be a pretty big investment depending on things like outsourcing for parts or stateside parts manufacture. I'll give you guys an example of what I went through with Malehanger. There was a bit more involved that what I'm listing below details wise, but this is a good idea.

1) Taking a rough idea and hiring a design engineer to revamp the design and iron out bugs, make it unique. Then, having the design engineer take everything and turn it into design files for a CAD machine, and design files that a molding company can actually use:
Around $1,200 for several months of back and forth work. This guy was a one in a million. He worked a LOT cheaper than most design engineers would.

2) Digging around, calling around and getting referred to a molding company that can actually DO what you need? Hours, weeks, at least a few months. The first two molding companies in America quoted me between $15,000-$30,000 for making molds, prototypes and a first run of parts.

4) A few different sets of prototype parts at $250 each, going back to the design engineer to re-tweak design issues, finally getting it all right and then a final set of prototype parts for my final approval. Total cost around $1,000

3) Finally finding a molding company overseas who would work with me on a "medical device". Anything that touches the human skin is usually considered a "medical device" and many companies shy away from projects like this because they require special paperwork and clearance and sometimes certifications. Around $3,600 for the metal molds, $2,700 for a minimum order quantity of 2,000 units.

So, it's a lot more involved process than many people usually realize. This is a pretty condensed run down, and this is just for some molded plastic parts. No metal parts, no mechanical units, nothing really complicated.
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wow!
 
stillwantmore2;620625 said:
From my own experience, I can tell Lightning/DLD care about [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] enough to fund something like this. A project like this can be a pretty big investment depending on things like outsourcing for parts or stateside parts manufacture. I'll give you guys an example of what I went through with Malehanger. There was a bit more involved that what I'm listing below details wise, but this is a good idea.

1) Taking a rough idea and hiring a design engineer to revamp the design and iron out bugs, make it unique. Then, having the design engineer take everything and turn it into design files for a CAD machine, and design files that a molding company can actually use:
Around $1,200 for several months of back and forth work. This guy was a one in a million. He worked a LOT cheaper than most design engineers would.

2) Digging around, calling around and getting referred to a molding company that can actually DO what you need? Hours, weeks, at least a few months. The first two molding companies in America quoted me between $15,000-$30,000 for making molds, prototypes and a first run of parts.

4) A few different sets of prototype parts at $250 each, going back to the design engineer to re-tweak design issues, finally getting it all right and then a final set of prototype parts for my final approval. Total cost around $1,000

3) Finally finding a molding company overseas who would work with me on a "medical device". Anything that touches the human skin is usually considered a "medical device" and many companies shy away from projects like this because they require special paperwork and clearance and sometimes certifications. Around $3,600 for the metal molds, $2,700 for a minimum order quantity of 2,000 units.

So, it's a lot more involved process than many people usually realize. This is a pretty condensed run down, and this is just for some molded plastic parts. No metal parts, no mechanical units, nothing really complicated.
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This is exactly the process we have been following and as Still says you can see it is very expensive. You can't cut corners on anything because it will be reflected in the product and it's function. Most companies that have tried to accomplish this usually go for parts off the shelf usually found in China that may look the part but are usually crap. We are making every part from scratch and this is where it gets more pricey. I insisted on this as has LIGHTNING. You can kind of look at this like a car is made. You may be able to purchase the car for $20,000 but getting that car to market costs millions of dollars.
 
Im good to test an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]all night stretcher[/words]
 
smerc;620661 said:
CAD software+3d printing machine FTW.

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Nice writeup SWM.
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Yea. We can dream right? Most people don't realize you need to KNOW CAD programming so you can write the design software, or have to ability to import the design files. Also, and this is a BIG part, 3D printing is fun and exciting in concept. However, it's nowhere near practical and it's extremely inefficient for anywhere near a serious level of mass production of parts at the current time. That's still several years away. Currently, an at home printer is around $2,000-$6,000 depending on things like options and whether it's already assembled when it arrives. Also, to print ONE item may take have the day.
 
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stillwantmore2;625049 said:
Yea. We can dream right? Most people don't realize you need to KNOW CAD programming so you can write the design software, or have to ability to import the design files. Also, and this is a BIG part, 3D printing is fun and exciting in concept. However, it's nowhere near practical and it's extremely inefficient for anywhere near a serious level of mass production of parts at the current time. That's still several years away. Currently, an at home printer is around $2,000-$6,000 depending on things like options and whether it's already assembled when it arrives. Also, to print ONE item may take have the day.
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very true about the slow printing time but you can get very good top of the line home 3D printers for hundreds of dollars now
 
partytime5423;625062 said:
very true about the slow printing time but you can get very good top of the line home 3D printers for hundreds of dollars now
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Yeah, I have seen them in the $800 range...we have been looking for one for this project.
 
partytime5423;625098 said:
give it 5-10 years and you will be able to mass print using at home 3D printers
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Yup it is always like that. I remember buying my first VCR with 4 heads, it costed $1200! Today you can't sell a VCR for more than $25! I also remember when [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words]'s costed $60 a piece and a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] player was well over a thousand dollars.
 
tb007;625498 said:
I've heard the MakerBot Replicator is pretty much the shit. They're not cheap though.
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I will check it out, I am not sure what our budget is but definitely no more than 2K.
 
I keep thinking of getting a PF, but will hold out until the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] design is ready for the show :)
 
If you've got the cash for a pf I say get one.

I get the feeling it might be a while before this [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] device is released. And you can always sell your pf on ebay or on the forum down the road when this new one comes out.

Plus [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] will benefit financially from your purchase and that will give them even more resources to come up with new devices.
 
gnome2;626771 said:
I keep thinking of getting a PF, but will hold out until the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] design is ready for the show :)
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We are far from having this ready, we are still putting together parts and trying to raise the capital for the molds we need. I would not expect anything for at least 12 months. A great substitute is the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words].
 
is this stretcher still in the works? mostly just trying to bump the thread to stir up interest
 
lol lots of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] questions coming up nowadays;)
 
is it to late to want to be a tester? has the item come out yet?.... PLEASE INBOX ME ON HOW TO BE A TESTER IF ITS NOT TO LATE :(
 
will be better to have a cheaper more advanced option then the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]..:)
 
master_mind;649196 said:
You send me I will get the moulds made.
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What would you charge for making the molds? We would need 4 molds made all about the size of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] components.
 
doublelongdaddy;649431 said:
What would you charge for making the molds? We would need 4 molds made all about the size of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] components.
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until I don't get a drawing I cannot tell the cost of the mould. Need to know what kind of plastic we will use. The shrinkage of the material has lot to do with the mold making. Shape and size of plastic components also changes the mold cost. How many pcs in the mold is required.
 
master_mind;649441 said:
Besides if want more strength. You can go for aluminium pressure die casting.
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I will have LIGHTNING get in touch with you, if we can get these molds cheap enough it would really speed things along.
 
doublelongdaddy;649451 said:
I will have LIGHTNING get in touch with you, if we can get these molds cheap enough it would really speed things along.
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Well if I have the drawings I can tell all about the moulds and plastic material or aluminium material in just 2 days.
 
If it is anything like a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] or any other vacuum head attachment, there is a market for an XL size bell.
 
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