MoS All Day Stretcher / All Night Stretcher! Feedback & Beta-Testers Needed!

youknowme123321;610119 said:
and if none of those sizes work they probably woudnt have to offer pricy special sizes. men would just go out and find silicone tubes that fit them and they can apply to the device.
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Yeah. Most of those issues will be solved when the betas starting to be tested. Just a quick look in the forums to see men modding their devices.
Using feedback from the brootherhood, which tested pretty much all devices out there, will make this top notch on the market!
 
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Let's be real, how many guys that are 7" in girth actually want to make their penis bigger? Not too many are obsessive and crazy like we all are hahaha
 
dmoney101;610203 said:
Let's be real, how many guys that are 7" in girth actually want to make their penis bigger? Not too many are obsessive and crazy like we all are hahaha
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all very true points. and those guys if wanted will be able to do DIY modifications
 
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pradox;610096 said:
That's it. Using a S (3"-4"),M (4"-5") and L (5"-6") sizes is the way to go. Guys above or bellow that could benefit from "special sizes" that could be produced on demand, (which would be a bit more pricey).
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Sounds good to me. I think, just in case, 2-3" and 7-8" would be good too even though they would be the least needed.
 
My erect girth is 6 inches. Sometimes, my erect base girth is 6.2 inches. I cant' provide my flaccid yet , because I am hanging right now.

:-) I will update with my flaccid later on.
 
I didn't see this thread until today. Not sure where I have been looking.

I just read the whole thread in about an hour.
I know LIGHTNING mentioned this: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...eta-testers-needed-post603556.html#post603556 / http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...eta-testers-needed-post605043.html#post605043
So it seems that it's already in motion.

I wrote 3/4 of the below w/o knowing how far along the project was. I was on pg. 1 when I started writing.
Some of the stuff is now common sense since it was previously mentioned in the thread, so bare w/ me.

My 2cents if it's not too late.
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Simple shopping cart. Basically a build your own system.
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Vacuum Head Attachment: [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] type attachment. Medium/Large/XL (most people from what I know don't use the small version of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and they don't make an XL, they're losing out on A LOT of money from that alone (not having an XL))
The package shouldn't come w/ all 4 versions. They will be upgrades listed in their own product page.
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] #1: 3.25"G
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] #2: 4.25" G
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] #3: 5.25"G
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] #4: 6.25"G

The above girths are measured in flaccid. The girth measurements above are just the head opening of the attachment. You all would have to poll to see what the average FHG is.
The rest of the plastic attachment will bulb wider a bit, like a lightbulb as to accommodate the head being expanded and creating the vacuum seal.
Erections w/ the device on could cause a problem if using the wrong head attachment.
-----
Vacuum Condom/Sleeve: 4" Silicone sleeve to keep the suction/vacuum pressure (as shown in youknowme's videos). The sleeve can also roll down the shaft.
-----
Protector Cap: Protector cap, nothing special. Except maybe including 2 of them in a purchase.
-----
Vacuum Pump: The tip of the "Vacuum Head Attachment" will be much like a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penis pump[/words].
There will be a screw type fitting/valve that will accommodate a piece of tubing that is connected to a pump bulb.

METHOD EXAMPLE 1:
2014_10_06_135415.jpg

This will pull air out of the "Vacuum Head Attachment" which expands the head of the penis.

It would basically be just like the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] bulb piece.

METHOD EXAMPLE 2: As similar w/ the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]. You could just go w/ a tubing piece. You would use your mouth to suck out air from the "Vacuum Head Attachment" in case you didn't have your bulb handy @ the time.
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Spring/Tension Setup: I don't much of the mechanics of these, so I can't really comment. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] offers a good spring/tension setup w/ color coding.
I think 1 good 5lb spring should be enough. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] can go up to 7lbs which is nice.
I don't know how the head pieces will hold @ higher weights.
I think if you're going any higher than 7lbs, then you might as well just start w/ the LG (unless [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] makes another head attachment that can also be suited for vacuum hanging through 10lb-20lbs).
-----
Stretching Method: The [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] belts are awesome. They can give a SD/SU/BTC stretch. There also doesn't have to be any give within the belt as all of that will be done through the "Spring/Tension Setup".

You could make an adapter for the "Vacuum Head Attachment" say if you wanted to use it on an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] or ETC [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], but that's diverging from the path of having your own [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]/ANS.
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doublelongdaddy;602508 said:
I would also like to have one that allowed for Behind the Cheeks stretching all night and day.
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The [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] straps can do this. They give a SU stretch, but all you need to do is just reverse everything to your back to achieve the BTC.

doublelongdaddy;606288 said:
What name do you guys think we should use for the new [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]/ANS? We could incorporate a contest around the winner of the name.
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I think "Matters of Stretch" was a good one. Someone chose that previously in the thread.
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Also about patenting. As LIGHTNING said, it really doesn't make much sense. Everyone tries to counterfeit each other no matter what. Unless the funds are there to go to a patent court after a C&D fails, then it's probably pointless.

I'm not sure how important certifications are either. You need certain certs if selling the product on the shelves and ETC, but this is done online and through this forum. So I'm not sure how important that is. I know it's probably pretty important if the product is of electronic nature.

If a government agency was to shut you down, would they take the whole forum/website w/ it? Since they're also aiding and abetting in the sales of "XYZ".
I know PLENTY of people get shutdown due to some faulty shit w/ their product or the way they market it. They hop back up within months under a relabel/rebrand and minor alterations of the product if any @ all.
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youknowme123321;605933 said:
bluetooth scale. that is pretty cool. if it spikes the price to much though i would think to drop that idea. and personally i also don't like the idea of bluetooth/wifi things directly next to my testes. in a lot of cell phone user manuals they say to not place the phone directly against the ear and head.
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You know w/ all the talk of "grid hacking". I would hate for someone to hack into a device and start controlling your dick. :blush:

Triangle, triangle, square, R2
***FINISH HIM***

Beating people up in public.
"HEY!! It's not me!!! Someone is controlling my dick remotely"

Yeah the radiation of such device so close could be a problem.
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Those are just my 2cents.
 
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smerc;611194 said:
I didn't see this thread until today. Not sure where I have been looking.

I just read the whole thread in about an hour.
I know LIGHTNING mentioned this: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...eta-testers-needed-post603556.html#post603556 / http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...eta-testers-needed-post605043.html#post605043
So it seems that it's already in motion.

I wrote 3/4 of the below w/o knowing how far along the project was. I was on pg. 1 when I started writing.
Some of the stuff is now common sense since it was previously mentioned in the thread, so bare w/ me.

My 2cents if it's not too late.
-----
Simple shopping cart. Basically a build your own system.
-----
Vacuum Head Attachment: [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] type attachment. Medium/Large/XL (most people from what I know don't use the small version of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and they don't make an XL, they're losing out on A LOT of money from that alone (not having an XL))
The package shouldn't come w/ all 4 versions. They will be upgrades listed in their own product page.
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] #1: 3.25"G
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] #2: 4.25" G
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] #3: 5.25"G
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] #4: 6.25"G

The above girths are measured in flaccid. The girth measurements above are just the head opening of the attachment. You all would have to poll to see what the average FHG is.
The rest of the plastic attachment will bulb wider a bit, like a lightbulb as to accommodate the head being expanded and creating the vacuum seal.
Erections w/ the device on could cause a problem if using the wrong head attachment.
-----
Vacuum Condom/Sleeve: 4" Silicone sleeve to keep the suction/vacuum pressure (as shown in youknowme's videos). The sleeve can also roll down the shaft.
-----
Protector Cap: Protector cap, nothing special. Except maybe including 2 of them in a purchase.
-----
Vacuum Pump: The tip of the "Vacuum Head Attachment" will be much like a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penis pump[/words].
There will be a screw type fitting/valve that will accommodate a piece of tubing that is connected to a pump bulb.

METHOD EXAMPLE 1:
2014_10_06_135415.jpg

This will pull air out of the "Vacuum Head Attachment" which expands the head of the penis.

It would basically be just like the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] bulb piece.

METHOD EXAMPLE 2: As similar w/ the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]. You could just go w/ a tubing piece. You would use your mouth to suck out air from the "Vacuum Head Attachment" in case you didn't have your bulb handy @ the time.
-----
Spring/Tension Setup: I don't much of the mechanics of these, so I can't really comment. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] offers a good spring/tension setup w/ color coding.
I think 1 good 5lb spring should be enough. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] can go up to 7lbs which is nice.
I don't know how the head pieces will hold @ higher weights.
I think if you're going any higher than 7lbs, then you might as well just start w/ the LG (unless [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] makes another head attachment that can also be suited for vacuum hanging through 10lb-20lbs).
-----
Stretching Method: The [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] belts are awesome. They can give a SD/SU/BTC stretch. There also doesn't have to be any give within the belt as all of that will be done through the "Spring/Tension Setup".

You could make an adapter for the "Vacuum Head Attachment" say if you wanted to use it on an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] or ETC [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], but that's diverging from the path of having your own [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]/ANS.
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The [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] straps can do this. They give a SU stretch, but all you need to do is just reverse everything to your back to achieve the BTC.



I think "Matters of Stretch" was a good one. Someone chose that previously in the thread.
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Also about patenting. As LIGHTNING said, it really doesn't make much sense. Everyone tries to counterfeit each other no matter what. Unless the funds are there to go to a patent court after a C&D fails, then it's probably pointless.

I'm not sure how important certifications are either. You need certain certs if selling the product on the shelves and ETC, but this is done online and through this forum. So I'm not sure how important that is. I know it's probably pretty important if the product is of electronic nature.

If a government agency was to shut you down, would they take the whole forum/website w/ it? Since they're also aiding and abetting in the sales of "XYZ".
I know PLENTY of people get shutdown due to some faulty shit w/ their product or the way they market it. They hop back up within months under a relabel/rebrand and minor alterations of the product if any @ all.
-----


You know w/ all the talk of "grid hacking". I would hate for someone to hack into a device and start controlling your dick. :blush:

Triangle, triangle, square, R2
***FINISH HIM***

Beating people up in public.
"HEY!! It's not me!!! Someone is controlling my dick remotely"

Yeah the radiation of such device so close could be a problem.
-----
Those are just my 2cents.
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Wow, excellent ideas and thoughts. I really appreciate this Smerc and I know LIGHTNING will be happy to read what you have written. We are still bouncing ideas around so your input is still very relevant.
 
youknowme123321;611183 said:
Lightning - will this be able to lengthen straight out as well?
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That wasn't our intention at first but now it has been mentioned a few times here we can make it adaptable to a sliding [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].
 
doublelongdaddy;611304 said:
Wow, excellent ideas and thoughts. I really appreciate this Smerc and I know LIGHTNING will be happy to read what you have written. We are still bouncing ideas around so your input is still very relevant.
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No problem. How many prototypes have you guys went through so far?
 
smerc;611194 said:
I didn't see this thread until today. Not sure where I have been looking.

I just read the whole thread in about an hour.
I know LIGHTNING mentioned this: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...eta-testers-needed-post603556.html#post603556 / http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...eta-testers-needed-post605043.html#post605043
So it seems that it's already in motion.

I wrote 3/4 of the below w/o knowing how far along the project was. I was on pg. 1 when I started writing.
Some of the stuff is now common sense since it was previously mentioned in the thread, so bare w/ me.

My 2cents if it's not too late.
-----
Simple shopping cart. Basically a build your own system.
-----
Vacuum Head Attachment: [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] type attachment. Medium/Large/XL (most people from what I know don't use the small version of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and they don't make an XL, they're losing out on A LOT of money from that alone (not having an XL))
The package shouldn't come w/ all 4 versions. They will be upgrades listed in their own product page.
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] #1: 3.25"G
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] #2: 4.25" G
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] #3: 5.25"G
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] #4: 6.25"G

The above girths are measured in flaccid. The girth measurements above are just the head opening of the attachment. You all would have to poll to see what the average FHG is.
The rest of the plastic attachment will bulb wider a bit, like a lightbulb as to accommodate the head being expanded and creating the vacuum seal.
Erections w/ the device on could cause a problem if using the wrong head attachment.
-----
Vacuum Condom/Sleeve: 4" Silicone sleeve to keep the suction/vacuum pressure (as shown in youknowme's videos). The sleeve can also roll down the shaft.
-----
Protector Cap: Protector cap, nothing special. Except maybe including 2 of them in a purchase.
-----
Vacuum Pump: The tip of the "Vacuum Head Attachment" will be much like a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penis pump[/words].
There will be a screw type fitting/valve that will accommodate a piece of tubing that is connected to a pump bulb.

METHOD EXAMPLE 1:
2014_10_06_135415.jpg

This will pull air out of the "Vacuum Head Attachment" which expands the head of the penis.

It would basically be just like the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] bulb piece.

METHOD EXAMPLE 2: As similar w/ the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]. You could just go w/ a tubing piece. You would use your mouth to suck out air from the "Vacuum Head Attachment" in case you didn't have your bulb handy @ the time.
-----
Spring/Tension Setup: I don't much of the mechanics of these, so I can't really comment. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] offers a good spring/tension setup w/ color coding.
I think 1 good 5lb spring should be enough. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] can go up to 7lbs which is nice.
I don't know how the head pieces will hold @ higher weights.
I think if you're going any higher than 7lbs, then you might as well just start w/ the LG (unless [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] makes another head attachment that can also be suited for vacuum hanging through 10lb-20lbs).
-----
Stretching Method: The [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] belts are awesome. They can give a SD/SU/BTC stretch. There also doesn't have to be any give within the belt as all of that will be done through the "Spring/Tension Setup".

You could make an adapter for the "Vacuum Head Attachment" say if you wanted to use it on an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] or ETC [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], but that's diverging from the path of having your own [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]/ANS.
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The [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] straps can do this. They give a SU stretch, but all you need to do is just reverse everything to your back to achieve the BTC.



I think "Matters of Stretch" was a good one. Someone chose that previously in the thread.
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Also about patenting. As LIGHTNING said, it really doesn't make much sense. Everyone tries to counterfeit each other no matter what. Unless the funds are there to go to a patent court after a C&D fails, then it's probably pointless.

I'm not sure how important certifications are either. You need certain certs if selling the product on the shelves and ETC, but this is done online and through this forum. So I'm not sure how important that is. I know it's probably pretty important if the product is of electronic nature.

If a government agency was to shut you down, would they take the whole forum/website w/ it? Since they're also aiding and abetting in the sales of "XYZ".
I know PLENTY of people get shutdown due to some faulty shit w/ their product or the way they market it. They hop back up within months under a relabel/rebrand and minor alterations of the product if any @ all.
-----


You know w/ all the talk of "grid hacking". I would hate for someone to hack into a device and start controlling your dick. :blush:

Triangle, triangle, square, R2
***FINISH HIM***

Beating people up in public.
"HEY!! It's not me!!! Someone is controlling my dick remotely"

Yeah the radiation of such device so close could be a problem.
-----
Those are just my 2cents.
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Great input smerc! All valid ideas that echoed a few previous posts in this thread.
We are just waiting on a few other samples here for parts.
 
LIGHTNING;611341 said:
That wasn't our intention at first but now it has been mentioned a few times here we can make it adaptable to a sliding [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words].
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i know i would like that.
 
youknowme123321;611345 said:
i know i would like that.
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Just for temp purposes in case [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] gets their own type of setup w/ an adapter.

Here's what the user "pudendal" did on another forum:
2014_10_09_203433.jpg



and here is another from someone else (can't recall their name):
ggggggg.jpg



Basically using a bell that you're not currently using and making a mod to fit a adapter, that can also fit on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] of your choice.

If [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] could offer some type of adapter that also clips off or ETC, then attaches to another tension device that can be used w/ a belt, then that should supercede all [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] out there. It would be a rod+belt universal [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. That would be game over, checkmate, to all [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] manufacturers out there.
 
smerc;611368 said:
Just for temp purposes in case [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] gets their own type of setup w/ an adapter.

Here's what the user "pudendal" did on another forum:
2014_10_09_203433.jpg


and here is another from someone else (can't recall their name):
ggggggg.jpg



Basically using a bell that you're not currently using and making a mod to fit a adapter, that can also fit on the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] of your choice.

If [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] could offer some type of adapter that also clips off or ETC, then attaches to another tension device that can be used w/ a belt, then that should supercede all [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] out there. It would be a rod+belt universal [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. That would be game over, checkmate, to all [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] manufacturers out there.
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awesome sharing!!! thanks smerc. wish [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] gave me an extra large bell instead of just one since the small and medium are useless to me
 
I think DLD nailed the size ranges. Of course there will always be that one guy in 10,000 with a genuine micro phallus starting with 2x2 who the stretcher won't fit or the weirdo with 10x7 who wants more size. I think "most" men is who should be catered to. The rest can be better served with some other part of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] product line.
 
youknowme123321;611380 said:
awesome sharing!!! thanks smerc. wish [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] gave me an extra large bell instead of just one since the small and medium are useless to me
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Can you not just order individual parts for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]? That's bullshit if you can't. [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]Jes[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] both offer replacement parts.
 
tb007;611437 said:
Can you not just order individual parts for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]? That's bullshit if you can't. [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]Jes[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] both offer replacement parts.
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you can only buy extra condoms and protector caps. no extra bells or pumps or straps
 
Jdcsd;611446 said:
That's cause all you need is the bell and the pump.
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What if one breaks? Or you want to mod an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] with a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] head attachment? They should still offer all parts as replacements. They could even make it to where you can't buy extra parts unless you've already bought a whole system because I know they want to make sure no one passes on the system just to make a cheaper version using the other parts because they're greedy. If anything, they would make even more money if they sold more stuff. That sounds stupidly obvious but apparently they have other agendas.
 
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youknowme123321;611443 said:
you can only buy extra condoms and protector caps. no extra bells or pumps or straps
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That's irritating. What if one breaks or something? Do they at least offer replacement parts to people who have already bought the whole system? That seems like kinda shitty business practice if they don't.
 
This is getting really exciting. Our dreams become realities! Remember, we all have a hand in the creation of this and it will belong to the Brotherhood as another great step in PE.
 
tb007;611447 said:
What if one breaks? Or you want to mod an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] with a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] head attachment? They should still offer all parts as replacements.
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I agree. They do replacements though. I think you send a picture of the broken item and your purchase ID/info/# and they send it out to you.
I think I only seen this happen for the pump and not the bells.



tb007;611447 said:
They could even make it to where you can't buy extra parts unless you've already bought a whole system because I know they want to make sure no one passes on the system just to make a cheaper version using the other parts because they're greedy.
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I think that's the main reason.
 
smerc;611521 said:
I agree. They do replacements though. I think you send a picture of the broken item and your purchase ID/info/# and they send it out to you.
I think I only seen this happen for the pump and not the bells.
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I think that all wearable parts should include a warranty that will replace them for a reasonable amount of time. I also think that after the initial investment of the product, replacement parts should be very reasonably priced for those out of warranty. I kind of cringe when I see companies charging ridiculous prices for parts that obviously do not cost anywhere near what they are charging.
 
doublelongdaddy;612789 said:
I kind of cringe when I see companies charging ridiculous prices for parts that obviously do not cost anywhere near what they are charging.
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Yeah. It's nice when you can find alternatives though that are more durable and cheaper in the long run (silicone sleeves). :) The other stuff is probably outrageous if they was to put a price tag on it for their website.
 
rhgunner;612975 said:
When will this be available?
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Not sure on that, we are still experimenting with different things. Maybe LIGHTNING can give us a better idea of when to expect.
 
doublelongdaddy;613001 said:
Not sure on that, we are still experimenting with different things. Maybe LIGHTNING can give us a better idea of when to expect.
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I know the below probably goes against what you've just said, since you're trying different things.

Do you know if it's going to be rod based?
 
smerc;613143 said:
I know the below probably goes against what you've just said, since you're trying different things.

Do you know if it's going to be rod based?
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No, it will not be rod based, beating the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] would be an expensive and difficult thing to accomplish.
 
doublelongdaddy;613344 said:
No, it will not be rod based, beating the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] would be an expensive and difficult thing to accomplish.
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Not too mention there are a lot of copycats on ebay to compete with.
The belt systems are more versatile w/ stretching directions anyways.
 
i wonder if an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]/ans to hold a curved penis against a curve could be possible, ive thought about it tho and it seems really complicated but im not that intelligent lol
 
grow4me;616711 said:
i wonder if an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]/ans to hold a curved penis against a curve could be possible, ive thought about it tho and it seems really complicated but im not that intelligent lol
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With a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], you would just use PVC and notch out of the PVC a bit to secure on the rod and then use something like velcro to secure it.
 
do u know where there are any pics of this set up mate im not sure how to do it....i did say im not that intelligent lol for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]/ans i was thinking of something that cud be worn under clothes in work and for everyday life really really i cant wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] to work or anything bc i use the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] with it so i need alot of rods which is heavy and very noticeable, i was only wondering anyway
 
grow4me;616716 said:
do u know where there are any pics of this set up mate im not sure how to do it....i did say im not that intelligent lol for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]/ans i was thinking of something that cud be worn under clothes in work and for everyday life really really i cant wear the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] to work or anything bc i use the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] with it so i need alot of rods which is heavy and very noticeable, i was only wondering anyway
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Here is the idea: http://s27.postimg.org/mh9fpupcz/Untitled_1.jpg
Here is a strapping/velcro/ETC idea: http://tlctugger.com/images/VLCTuggerWithExtender-StrappedMidShaft.jpg (pics altered)
 
grow4me;616727 said:
spot on thanks mate
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NP. Hopefully that was understood. It's basically a fulcrum for extending.
There are some threads that pop up when you search google for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] & fulcrum, which should show some pictures.

It would be a bit different w/ belt [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words], but same concept.
 
i did try a google search before i asked you but i couldnt find anything, i still cant find any images lol nevermind i understand now anyway cheers
 
stillwantmore2;616812 said:
Awesome to see something like this coming from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]!
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With LIGHTNING on the design it is a guaranteed success, I am very excited too.
 
The problem with things like this it takes allot of trial and error to get the best device on the market. We have listened to everything you have said and combined all the best and most realistic ideals into this device and we are still trialing in house here before we beta test outside.

As soon as we get a really solid prototype we will begin beta testing.
 
LIGHTNING;617163 said:
The problem with things like this it takes allot of trial and error to get the best device on the market. We have listened to everything you have said and combined all the best and most realistic ideals into this device and we are still trialing in house here before we beta test outside.

As soon as we get a really solid prototype we will begin beta testing.
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Great! Take your time- if waiting one year for this [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]/ANS to come out is going to make it the BEST one on the market it would totally be worth it! Go on, do tests, take your time and I hope something really good comes out in the end :).
 
Zambrodom3;617180 said:
Great! Take your time- if waiting one year for this [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]/ANS to come out is going to make it the BEST one on the market it would totally be worth it! Go on, do tests, take your time and I hope something really good comes out in the end :).
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I agree, time makes little difference when you are creating soothing so huge. There are many devices out there that we are looking at and it will take time to weigh pros and cons and devise our our way of improving everywhere others have fell short. What I do know is all the posts men have given have really helped us get to the place we want to be.
 
I think the ultimate [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] would something like this.

Bell (if we call it that) like the vacxtender 4.2 in different sizes so can get a good fit to the glands. No need for extra vacuum if the bell fir the glands its not needed for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]. To much vacuum can hurt the glands making it hard to use 24/7

Condom/sleeve same silicone sleve vacxtender use. No need doe anything fancy.
Include short and longer sleeves so the long can be used with the bell as a anti turtle setup just like the xleeve.

Belt like [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and also a leg strap that can be used under the knee.

Tension control,,,,,something similar to what [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] use but not as big and clumpsy,,,,something like a tiny fish scale if that makes any sense that could be put between the bell and where you attach it on the belt or leg strap.

Now thats what I call a dream [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] :)
 
watts;617378 said:
I think the ultimate [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] would something like this.

Bell (if we call it that) like the vacxtender 4.2 in different sizes so can get a good fit to the glands. No need for extra vacuum if the bell fir the glands its not needed for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]. To much vacuum can hurt the glands making it hard to use 24/7

Condom/sleeve same silicone sleve vacxtender use. No need doe anything fancy.
Include short and longer sleeves so the long can be used with the bell as a anti turtle setup just like the xleeve.

Belt like [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and also a leg strap that can be used under the knee.

Tension control,,,,,something similar to what [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] use but not as big and clumpsy,,,,something like a tiny fish scale if that makes any sense that could be put between the bell and where you attach it on the belt or leg strap.

Now thats what I call a dream [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] :)
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I think a scale is very important with a device like this to keep track of how much tension is being used and how it is effecting gains.
 
dmoney101;617567 said:
Yeah, knowing the exact pound amount of force being applied would be great.
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Duly noted and will be incorporated into our plans.
 
watts;617378 said:
I think the ultimate [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] would something like this.

Bell (if we call it that) like the vacxtender 4.2 in different sizes so can get a good fit to the glands. No need for extra vacuum if the bell fir the glands its not needed for [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]. To much vacuum can hurt the glands making it hard to use 24/7

Condom/sleeve same silicone sleve vacxtender use. No need doe anything fancy.
Include short and longer sleeves so the long can be used with the bell as a anti turtle setup just like the xleeve.

Belt like [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and also a leg strap that can be used under the knee.

Tension control,,,,,something similar to what [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] use but not as big and clumpsy,,,,something like a tiny fish scale if that makes any sense that could be put between the bell and where you attach it on the belt or leg strap.

Now thats what I call a dream [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] :)
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smerc;617380 said:
That's basically everything purchasable from autoextender, except the luggage/fish scale thing for measuring tension.
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hahahaha that's funny.
 
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