Mistake PGE1 + trials.

hepcat;498614 said:
How do you get all these medications? Do you have to consult a physician or do you just get it online?
Click to expand...

The peptides and pge1 I get online. The cialis I have a prescription, but find it cheap to get generics online. I have consulted with a urologist about the penis injections and the use of PGE1, he does NOT approve of using BOTH cialis and pge1 at the same time. He also does not approve of Penis Enlargement in general, but he did tell me that injecting PGE-1 into the penis is safe and as long as I rotate the sites and apply pressure and massage the area after injection the majority users do not experience scarring... but there still is that chance.

Why take that chance? Because after years of failed attempts at Penis Enlargement I finally had results earlier this year with edging with cialis. It was the first positive measurement gain I have EVER had. Now with PGE1 I continue to see gains in girth and that continues to motivate me. If all I gain is girth so be it because a short and fat penis is better than a short and skinny penis. However, I have notice that I am not able to stretch a bit more in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] than I did 3 weeks ago. Could that be just because I'm finally sticking to a routine? Maybe, but I'm sticking to the routine better because I see the girth gains from PGE1. I think motivation is very important to Penis Enlargement and gains of any sort is highly motivating.
 
Mistake;498681 said:
Why take that chance? Because after years of failed attempts at Penis Enlargement I finally had results earlier this year with edging with cialis. It was the first positive measurement gain I have EVER had. Now with PGE1 I continue to see gains in girth and that continues to motivate me. If all I gain is girth so be it because a short and fat penis is better than a short and skinny penis. However, I have notice that I am not able to stretch a bit more in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] than I did 3 weeks ago. Could that be just because I'm finally sticking to a routine? Maybe, but I'm sticking to the routine better because I see the girth gains from PGE1. I think motivation is very important to Penis Enlargement and gains of any sort is highly motivating.
Click to expand...

I admire any member who goes forth into an area uncharted to find better ways to gain. I understand how people may react, stating the dangers, but in my mind non of us would be doing any kind of erect manual work if it were not for me. I received more flack for doing erect work and in the face of the warnings I continued. Today gains in girth are made so much faster because of erect exercise but 10 years ago you may have been shot for doing it! It is in the risk that the reward is realized. If you are fully aware that there is dangers in what you are doing and still fully go forward, then more power to you...I hope you realize innovations to help facilitate the growth of Penis Enlargement.
 
Mistake;498681 said:
The peptides and pge1 I get online. The cialis I have a prescription, but find it cheap to get generics online. I have consulted with a urologist about the penis injections and the use of PGE1, he does NOT approve of using BOTH cialis and pge1 at the same time. He also does not approve of Penis Enlargement in general, but he did tell me that injecting PGE-1 into the penis is safe and as long as I rotate the sites and apply pressure and massage the area after injection the majority users do not experience scarring... but there still is that chance.

Why take that chance? Because after years of failed attempts at Penis Enlargement I finally had results earlier this year with edging with cialis. It was the first positive measurement gain I have EVER had. Now with PGE1 I continue to see gains in girth and that continues to motivate me. If all I gain is girth so be it because a short and fat penis is better than a short and skinny penis. However, I have notice that I am not able to stretch a bit more in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] than I did 3 weeks ago. Could that be just because I'm finally sticking to a routine? Maybe, but I'm sticking to the routine better because I see the girth gains from PGE1. I think motivation is very important to Penis Enlargement and gains of any sort is highly motivating.
Click to expand...

I think it's because when more girth is added, it is harder to stretch the penis. Girth gaining toughens up the tunica (I've read), it's also a natural defense mechanism of the penis to combat against manual stretching - it'll get thicker to guard against the force being exerted. This is probably why some people gain girth with manual stretching but no length. I admit that it would probably be best to do hanging first, then add PGE1 in after you have gained the length you are looking for, but I don't have any more time to experiment and "dick" around. I want a big penis and I want it NOW. So I am doing both.
 
doublelongdaddy;498685 said:
I admire any member who goes forth into an area uncharted to find better ways to gain. I understand how people may react, stating the dangers, but in my mind non of us would be doing any kind of erect manual work if it were not for me. I received more flack for doing erect work and in the face of the warnings I continued. Today gains in girth are made so much faster because of erect exercise but 10 years ago you may have been shot for doing it! It is in the risk that the reward is realized. If you are fully aware that there is dangers in what you are doing and still fully go forward, then more power to you...I hope you realize innovations to help facilitate the growth of Penis Enlargement.
Click to expand...

That's why I like communicating and sharing information here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] so much better than at Nazi Penis Enlargementgym. We can actually give our opinions, criticisms and "taboo" techniques without being threatened to be banned. They have a great site with tons of info but a bunch of dickheads with pull there who dismiss anything that isn't already covered in the threads. And don't even go there talking about how 7 inches isn't big enough or giving any negative criticisms of women... The "truth about dick size" thread's back and forth between Petersouth and myself would have had us banned for 5 lifetimes there.
 
You will probably see more girth with this than length but length will come.

I've heard of other people claiming 3/4" girth and 1/4" length per month but this user was doing 2-4 hours each day.

The dramatic results seem to come in the 1-2 year range.
 
I experimented last night with a lower dose of 4iu and achieved an erection of 2.5 hours. I immediately did 30 minutes of manual stretches . I could feel a good soreness with each stretch, particularly at the tip and base. It felt good like scratching and itch.
 
MikeShlort;498692 said:
That's why I like communicating and sharing information here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] so much better than at Nazi Penis Enlargementgym. We can actually give our opinions, criticisms and "taboo" techniques without being threatened to be banned. They have a great site with tons of info but a bunch of dickheads with pull there who dismiss anything that isn't already covered in the threads. And don't even go there talking about how 7 inches isn't big enough or giving any negative criticisms of women... The "truth about dick size" thread's back and forth between Petersouth and myself would have had us banned for 5 lifetimes there.
Click to expand...

[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] was built on a complete freedom of speech and it will remain that way. It is through risk that we find reward and this is probably why so many more gain here than anywhere else. We are crazy, we do what it takes to find the answers and we always come out on top. Considering [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is considered a risky Penis Enlargement site according to other sites it amazes me that we do not suffer any more injuries than they do.

Without the risks I took early in my Penis Enlargement we would not have many innovations that have completely changed the game. I can't imagine a Penis Enlargement world without erect work, Bundled Stretches, Slow Squash Jelqs and DLD Basters (not to mention 100's more). When I got in the game Penis Enlargement gains were pathetically slow. Men would be happy making a half inch gain in 3 years! Slow gains was not something I was interested in at all, if it was going to take 3 years to make a lousy 1/2" gain, fuck it. I wanted fast gains, big gains, and I was willing to do whatever the fuck it took to get there. I built my entire program on risk, I did everything I was not supposed to do, I ventured into area uncharted and I emerged victorious!
 
^ And I am glad you did. I hope I can be as fortunate as you have been. Luckily there are all types of guys here trying all the stuff I am currently doing so that makes it easier for me.
 
MikeShlort;499180 said:
^ And I am glad you did. I hope I can be as fortunate as you have been. Luckily there are all types of guys here trying all the stuff I am currently doing so that makes it easier for me.
Click to expand...


Every part of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is part of the individuals who created it. We started as a very small group and it was our contributions to newer, faster ways to grow that built our membership. There are men out there right now who are new and have no clue that they may have an innovation that could change the face of Penis Enlargement forever. It is through the freedoms we have to express ourselves, without fear of backlash, that we are able to convey and implement the fastest ways to gain.
 
Started to use a leg strap [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] to help prevent turtling and attempt to always be in an extended state.
 
Mistake;500913 said:
Started to use a leg strap [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] to help prevent turtling and attempt to always be in an extended state.
Click to expand...


That a boy! [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] in effect!
 
I've stopped using IGF because wasn't sure if I was benefiting from it. I had to increase my dose to 14iu of PGE1 to last 3 hours now, but it no longer hurts!

One thing I do recommend is to continue to do Kegels when your on PGE1. I've been doing kegels for the past week and I feel it really helps with expansion. I'm up to a max of 5.45 MEG when on PGE1 and 12hours after my last shot I'm at 5.25 MEG.

No noticeable gain in length yet...
 
since stopping igf my non enhance EQ and [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]stamina[/words] has improved dramatically. I think it was because I was using too much. IGF1 can increase progesterone which can effect EQ.
 
Still injecting. I haven't had a lot of time to do any stretches just 15 minutes in the morning. I'm now up to 20iu of pge1. I usually do kegels in ta warm tub for about 20 minutes. Still haven't measured length but girth gains are very noticeable.
 
Mistake;506222 said:
Still injecting. I haven't had a lot of time to do any stretches just 15 minutes in the morning. I'm now up to 20iu of pge1. I usually do kegels in ta warm tub for about 20 minutes. Still haven't measured length but girth gains are very noticeable.
Click to expand...


You gotta step up the stretching. How about 3 sets a day of 10 minutes? That would add a lot of exercise for a little time.
 
doublelongdaddy;506783 said:
You gotta step up the stretching. How about 3 sets a day of 10 minutes? That would add a lot of exercise for a little time.
Click to expand...

I agree, if you want length gains with this stuff you have to stretch one way or another.

Try stretching after it wears off, you'll notice a big difference.
 
MikeShlort;507053 said:
Do you do your manual stretches before or after the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] hard core stretches Peter?
Click to expand...

That's a good question, I'm not sure which is best.

The only way I've ever been able to do manual stretches is before because after it's too hard to work with all deformed and retaining water. It tends to get tough as well.

So lately I've been going flaccid and then doing 3 sets of manuals followed by flaccid [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches.

I still feel that familiar pain since the PGE-1 is in there but I don't know which is better.
 
petersouth;507224 said:
That's a good question, I'm not sure which is best.

The only way I've ever been able to do manual stretches is before because after it's too hard to work with all deformed and retaining water. It tends to get tough as well.

So lately I've been going flaccid and then doing 3 sets of manuals followed by flaccid [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches.

I still feel that familiar pain since the PGE-1 is in there but I don't know which is better.
Click to expand...

Wow you do 3 sets in each direction (including left and right) for thirty seconds each? That must take a solid 30-40 minutes?

Do you still wear your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] 4 hours a day?
 
I've been sick for the past couple of days and didn't do any injections for 4 days. Good news is that even without PGE1 I've maintained meg of5.25 and when I did an injection I was back a 5.5.

I know I need to keep stretching will have to double efforts in this area. Planning on finally measuring length at the end of this month...I don't have great expectations of any mind blowing gains thought.
 
Mistake;507651 said:
I've been sick for the past couple of days and didn't do any injections for 4 days. Good news is that even without PGE1 I've maintained meg of5.25 and when I did an injection I was back a 5.5.

I know I need to keep stretching will have to double efforts in this area. Planning on finally measuring length at the end of this month...I don't have great expectations of any mind blowing gains thought.
Click to expand...


I hope you feel better! I was hoping the injections would bring gains, I still have hope here but I would love to see you step up on the manual work when you can. I think the combination of the injections with the manual work will make gains come faster.
 
MikeShlort;507253 said:
Wow you do 3 sets in each direction (including left and right) for thirty seconds each? That must take a solid 30-40 minutes?

Do you still wear your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] 4 hours a day?
Click to expand...

No I don't do it, too difficult with work and everything and I don't think I ever saw any gains from it for as much as I futzed around with it.

I think mainly my length gains came from DLD hardcore [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches and nothing else so far.

I never did manual stretches enough to matter and I never noticed anything from the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. The reason I never did manuals is I don't think they did anything for me, everything was too tight. I am a stiff, strong type person with bad flexibility. I work really hard to stay limber with splits and the like and it only helps so much. Down there is not much different.

Now it may be a different story wit PGE1, it's a game changer. That's the only reason I started doing manuals again.
 
Last edited:
Still injecting... I've notice that my girth gains have stalled. I've stabilized at 5.25 without PGE1 but with PGE1 I'm stuck at 5.5

I haven't done any sessions with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] in over 2 weeks because the fluid build up was nice but I noticed my EQ had suffered. I think this may have been because of the IGF-1 I was using. Going to do a couple of sessions this week and see if I blast through this plateau.

I've also measured. I'm still at 5.25 EL. So I have to step up my manual stretching.
 
Mistake - Would you elaborate a little more on the autoinjector?

I mean what is the pain level like?

I'm getting one but I'm afraid to use the thing. I mean the idea of a needle being driven into my dick at high speed seems disconcerting given the pain of my slow injections.

Also are you using fixed needle that holds a whole syringe or is it a seperate needle?

Thanks
 
petersouth;508839 said:
Mistake - Would you elaborate a little more on the autoinjector?

I mean what is the pain level like?

I'm getting one but I'm afraid to use the thing. I mean the idea of a needle being driven into my dick at high speed seems disconcerting given the pain of my slow injections.

Also are you using fixed needle that holds a whole syringe or is it a seperate needle?

Thanks
Click to expand...

I have one, the doctor used it once on me but I just do it freehand, haven't used mine myself. It didn't hurt much at all when he used it on me, hurts more when I do it freehand. Pressing in slowly is what hurts I think, as opposed to a quick puncture. I don't use mine because I'm afraid I'll miss the spot and it seems like just more of a hassle.

The thing basically is like a pen with a big hole for the syringe to go through, and it catapults the entire syringe towards the end of the injector, to the spot you're aiming at the press of a button. Then, you press down the plunger of the syringe all the way, then remove the device.
 
Sorry about the delay. Anyways I usually stay erect for about 3hours. 2 days on 1off. I think the lack of a consistent manual routine really did me in. But at least I'm gaining girth!

As for the auto injector I have it set at 1/4 of an inch so I don't go too far. Inject ease is pretty simple to use fill syringe, put in auto injector find spot and push trigger. You can than inject at your own pace. I'm not a fan of going slow with injections too much pain IMO.

I've started to use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] again. Just 10 minutes per session and I'm not getting good expansion without too much fluid build up!

Last session I was up to 5.75 and I was able to put on a condom, which is usually a not the case because of fluid build up.
 
Mistake;509348 said:
Last session I was up to 5.75 and I was able to put on a condom, which is usually a not the case because of fluid build up.
Click to expand...

What is your normal size?
 
Mistake;509348 said:
Last session I was up to 5.75 and I was able to put on a condom, which is usually a not the case because of fluid build up.
Click to expand...

What is your normal size?
 
doublelongdaddy;510131 said:
What is your normal size?
Click to expand...

Without PGE1 I'm now hitting a consistent 5.35 MEG. With PGE1 I'm hitting a consistent 5.5 MEG. With [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and PGE1...well that varies depending if I stay long enough in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] to let the fluid build up, but I've gone up to 5.85-5.9. But my unit looks like a blimp if I do this.
 
Hey Mistake. I strongly recommend you start using dmso and paba topically on your dick bro. You might as well do all of the major components of chemical Penis Enlargement since you're already doing the most mentally challenging part which is injecting. DMSO/PABA will help to soften up your tunica and prevent tissue toughening, along with the pge1's tunica unlinking effects.

Also try to stay consistent with a manual routine bro. The chems will help to inhance the effects of your manual work so don't give that up. Stretching or hanging is important in this protocal. Even Dr Adams himself had his test subjects doing at least 30 minutes of manual stretches everyday and taking paba and relaxent during there chemical trials and look at the success they got.
 
I'm going to give the DMSO and PABA combo a try. I wasn't too worried about a plateau in terms of girth but the slow progress of length gains is something I want to work on.
 
Still waiting on dmso, but [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] supersets seem to be working on length! Up to 5.40 EL!
 
Have started the DMSO and PABA combo. Combining it with PGE1. Here is an update on my routine

PGE1 20iu eod [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] 20 minute sessions with PGE1
DMSO and PABA with PGE1
cialis eod (on days off)
pramipexole .25 mg (to lower prolactin) eod (read the article link in my prolactin post)

I notice with pramipexole my night time erections are strong and my recovery after cumming is fast. My theory is if you can lower prolactin levels you can counter act the release of stress hormones for better gains...just a theory. (Do not follow my lead without knowing the risks)
 
Hey mistake. Good stuff bro. With the DMSO and PABA are using it during your pge1 erection are at a different time of the day? Also how many [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] sessions are you doing with the pge1 erection and how much erection time are you getting with 20mcgs?
 
kingsnake;513448 said:
Hey mistake. Good stuff bro. With the DMSO and PABA are using it during your pge1 erection are at a different time of the day? Also how many [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] sessions are you doing with the pge1 erection and how much erection time are you getting with 20mcgs?
Click to expand...
Sorry it took so long. i've been busy.

I use the DMSO and PABA at the same time as the PGE1 and I do 2 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] sessions a week because I'm trying to get my length to catch up with the girth I've gain. I average 3-4 hours with 20mcg. I have notice way better night erections with the prami.

My BPenis EnlargementL varies between 5.5 and 5.75. Which is a gain between .25-.5, I'm trying to be consistent on the stretching. My MEG is a solid 5.25 now and with PGE1 it's a 5.5 MEG.
 
By the way I am not liking the DMSO and PABA mix. It really makes my skin itch. I'm grinning an baring it right now, but I still don't like it.
 
Mistake;515126 said:
By the way I am not liking the DMSO and PABA mix. It really makes my skin itch. I'm grinning an baring it right now, but I still don't like it.
Click to expand...

Ya I'm reading that DMSO is used as a solvent mostly, but can be used on the skin to make it more pliable and also dissolve calcium (if I'm not mistaken), which is good for what we're trying to achieve, as fibrosis is calcium buildup on tendons and such. My scientific explanation may not be 100% accurate but I'm pretty close, do some research on it. Basically it itches because it penetrates the skin very quickly.
 
Hey mistake. Make sure to use aloe vera lotion after your dmso/paba treatement to help with skin irritation. Also make sure the concentration of dmso you're using is no more then 75%.
 
Mistake, are you still working on this protocol? As petersouth alluded to, pge1 can help you gain length. I'm a hard gainer and I've noticed some length gain in the last couple weeks. I've been using pge1 then going straight into my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. I try not to get very erect, I want to exploit the collagen weakening effects of pge1, not necessarily the priapism. The pge1 makes you sore almost immediately after injection whether you get an erection or not. This is due to the vasodilation and collagen weakening, I propose. It makes any stretching much more effective because the tissue is much more vulnerable. I compare it to trying to stretch frozen rubber versus stretching hot rubber; the frozen rubber is very hard to stretch and the hot rubber is very pliable and weak. I also notice soreness below the balls, I think it's because the entire CC, even that within the body, is experiencing the effects of the pge1. Try to palpate the sore area and you will find that it is likely inner penis that is sore. To address a question that DLD asked earlier, pge1 is very different from Viagra of Cialis. They have very little use in Penis Enlargement as evidenced by the fact that long time users do not typically experience any growth. Pge1s mechanism of action is different and it puts the penis in a prime condition to respond to stretching. The only drawback is that it is painful to stretch when using pge1 but I think that is partly due to the fact that even light stretches are pushing the tissue to it's limit and then some. I haven't measured, but I know I've gained even in the last couple weeks since starting this method, which is miraculous since I'm such a hard gainer. I originally thought my septum was my limiting factor but this growth is making me think otherwise. That's my rant for the night, Mistake, keep us posted.
 
Sorry about the delay. I've taken a long break from pge1, mainly because I finished my original run.

My bpel is about 5.5 but my EQ is very good. My EG is a solid 5.3

Overall not the dramatic gain which I was aiming for, but my self confidence vastly improved because of the girth gained.

I notice the majority of the girth gains were in my CS and not CC.

I may do another round in a couple of months.

I can't say I recommend pge1 for length but the girth gains seem to be permanent.



dickfordays;544016 said:
Mistake, are you still working on this protocol? As petersouth alluded to, pge1 can help you gain length. I'm a hard gainer and I've noticed some length gain in the last couple weeks. I've been using pge1 then going straight into my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. I try not to get very erect, I want to exploit the collagen weakening effects of pge1, not necessarily the priapism. The pge1 makes you sore almost immediately after injection whether you get an erection or not. This is due to the vasodilation and collagen weakening, I propose. It makes any stretching much more effective because the tissue is much more vulnerable. I compare it to trying to stretch frozen rubber versus stretching hot rubber; the frozen rubber is very hard to stretch and the hot rubber is very pliable and weak. I also notice soreness below the balls, I think it's because the entire CC, even that within the body, is experiencing the effects of the pge1. Try to palpate the sore area and you will find that it is likely inner penis that is sore. To address a question that DLD asked earlier, pge1 is very different from Viagra of Cialis. They have very little use in Penis Enlargement as evidenced by the fact that long time users do not typically experience any growth. Pge1s mechanism of action is different and it puts the penis in a prime condition to respond to stretching. The only drawback is that it is painful to stretch when using pge1 but I think that is partly due to the fact that even light stretches are pushing the tissue to it's limit and then some. I haven't measured, but I know I've gained even in the last couple weeks since starting this method, which is miraculous since I'm such a hard gainer. I originally thought my septum was my limiting factor but this growth is making me think otherwise. That's my rant for the night, Mistake, keep us posted.
Click to expand...
 
Mistake;545155 said:
Sorry about the delay. I've taken a long break from pge1, mainly because I finished my original run.

My bpel is about 5.5 but my EQ is very good. My EG is a solid 5.3

Overall not the dramatic gain which I was aiming for, but my self confidence vastly improved because of the girth gained.

I notice the majority of the girth gains were in my CS and not CC.

I may do another round in a couple of months.

I can't say I recommend pge1 for length but the girth gains seem to be permanent.
Click to expand...

Good to have a report after a break, it truly reveals the gains that have become permanent. I took quite a long break after stopping gaining and when I came back and measured again I lost nothing! So time will always reveal the permanence of our efforts.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top