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Stats: 4.75" nbpel 5.25 bpel 5 meg, 4.75 beg. I've been Penis Enlargementing on and off for about 5 years with no real result, until this year when I started using Cialis while edging. After 3 monthes I found I went from a 5 bpel to a 5.25 bpel and a 4.75 meg to a 5. meg. A minor improvement but this really motivated me to try Penis Enlargementing again...this time a Chemical Penis Enlargement routine.

What I'm using:

PGE1: For extended erections.
TB500: Aka thymosin Beta 4: To help with recovery and to help prevent scarring. May also improve gains..we will see. In week 4 of loading phase. Injecting subq like insulin.
Cialis: For days off
29gauge 1/2 inch insulin needles
sudafed

Protocol: 2 days on 2 days off

Day 1: I made the mistake (or was it) of doing a 5mcg when I took Cialis the day before. The erection I experience was mild at first, after 2 hours the erection was intense and after 3 hours I was trying to make it subside, cold shower, sudafed and an ice water wrap. It took about 30 minutes for it to subside.

Day 2: Tried 5mcg needed to increased to 10, very painful, not like the intense ache, but more like stinging. Erection needed to be coaxed and sustained only had a 1 hour full intense erection with 2 hours of 50%.

So what did I observe? During day one and day 2 I re-measured, no noticeable length gains, but achieved a .25 increase in girth! I've only been able to get this girth when I did a short [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session followed by a short clamping session.

Interesting enough was that I woke up each morning with the additional girth and when I got a normal erection the .25 increase in girth was still present.

This is what I used as reference http://www.ustoo.org/PDFs/Injection.pdf

next step: I have added an oral "potentiator" as suggested from the previous patent discussion. It is not Potaba (couldn't find any). I may add low dose cialis to run concurrent with PGE1 with the knowledge that I may run the risk of priapism , but with the knowledge that the abortive measures such as sudafed, push ups and a cold wrap are effective in reducing an erection. I want to add the cialis because the intense expansion was insane and effects. I also have an epipen on hand for extreme measures and if needed I will go to the ED. DO NOT add cialis just because I am...make your own decision.

It's day 3 and I have done a 20 minute [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session with DLD's [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretches. After the session my temporary gain in girth lead to my 5.5 inches MEG! However there was significant fluid build up which went away in 1 hour. I did an afternoon jelq session and I could still feel the soreness from last night...like what ever was expanded was being stretched again, this was true at the top/tip of the penis. When I got an erection and I was still at 5.25 girth.

I plan to continue with this experiment until the end of the year and will only measure once a month.

My goals: 6.5 inches NBPenis EnlargementL and 5.75 MEG.

I am not an expert at this so please any questions please read the link to the pdf above.

Sidenote: I experienced a soreness at the root of my penis, under my balls, like I had worked out that area via clamping.
 
A quick tip: I highly recommend using a cock ring or clamp before injecting and I found that injecting with a plumped penis easier to go at the right depth. For me the 10 and 2 o'clock positions are the easiest. And if you try to inject to close to the base I feel the pain more. And for me if I don't go deep enough all I get is the pain.

I went for another shot at 5mcg tonight and again was only able to sustain a 1 hour intense erection and 1 hour at 50%. May have to increase dose. But will give penis a rest for the next 2 days.

So far I have 5 hours of intense erections with 4 hours of 50%. It's that initial intense erection that makes it feel like your penis wants to grow. But having that intense erection longer than 3 1/2 hours is insane I can't have anything touching the tip of my penis because it becomes too sensitive. I don't think I could ever use PGE1 during sex. PGE1 for me is a Penis Enlargement tool only.
 
Well keep us very closely updated, many are interested in this and there are a few people trying it, the more data we have the better.
 
Thanks dld. I have already changed my routine to more of how many hours of erection a week. I think I know why the patient in the previous patent who was only on pge1 gained at a slower rate. PGE1 hurts! But that instant girth I gained keeps me going.

Going to add some manual stretches in the morning... if I can get the morning wood to go down. lol! will add some pics this weekend.
 
Mistake;495392 said:
Thanks dld. I have already changed my routine to more of how many hours of erection a week. I think I know why the patient in the previous patent who was only on pge1 gained at a slower rate. PGE1 hurts! But that instant girth I gained keeps me going.

Going to add some manual stretches in the morning... if I can get the morning wood to go down. lol! will add some pics this weekend.
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maybe try erect stretching with that morining wood? I do that after my testicle massage/stretch in the morning cuz it gives me a boner. Seems to be a good stretch. The erection subsides very quickly too but I think DLD said you're still stretching that erect tissue if you're only semi.
 
MikeShlort;495660 said:
maybe try erect stretching with that morining wood? I do that after my testicle massage/stretch in the morning cuz it gives me a boner. Seems to be a good stretch. The erection subsides very quickly too but I think DLD said you're still stretching that erect tissue if you're only semi.
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Yup, even when semi you will be effecting erectile tissue. Stretching erect will also help close the gap in bpfs and bpel.
 
After a days rest. I did another 7mcg shot last night with 10 mgs of cialis taken 12 hours prior and 50mg of proviron taken 2 hours earlier. The erection started out feeling like just a normal cialis erection and I didn't know if I had injected into the right deph but after an hour I started to get the pge1 ache. After 3 hours I tried to get the erection down, with push ups and sit ups, but after 30 minutes I had to do ice water wraps which subsided the intense erection but couldn't get it down to below 50% for another hour. That means I had a 4 1/2 intense erection. I woke up and I had another erection but that subsided within 15 minutes.

I thought about not injecting today, but decided to do a 5mcg shot and I had an intense erection for about 1 1/2. I did take another 50mg of proviron so about 30 minutes after the intense erection subsided I got another one that lasted 30 minutes. I've been getting random erections all afternoon.

I did some erect stretches this time. The ones which i stretch to the left or right feel good particularly at the tip, like when you have been sitting for awhile and you stretch. The stretch straight up help relieve some of the pressure at the base of the penis, while the one straight out or down are just intense and I can't do them for very long.

Also once flaccid I really feel the stretches deep in the core of the penis (if that makes sense) they feel good and afterwards I feel an deep itch around the glands and .25 inches below the glands which I have to shake my penis to "scratch it".
 
Hey this might be helpful - if you get a priapism, run up and down flights of stairs very fast. Like as fast as you can for as long as you can. This is the most intense exercise to get your heart rate soaring and should bring down the erection. If you don't have stairs where you live, you can do very fast sprints. Something intense that gets your heart rate soaring very fast.
 
Also, I think you should just find your ideal dose that will keep you at 100% for two hours then start to go down, then start messing with a potientiator after that. Then you won't have to keep guessing and screwing around with different doses, you'll know your base dose and can build from there if you ever become less sensitive to it.
 
MikeShlort;495820 said:
Also, I think you should just find your ideal dose that will keep you at 100% for two hours then start to go down, then start messing with a potientiator after that. Then you won't have to keep guessing and screwing around with different doses, you'll know your base dose and can build from there if you ever become less sensitive to it.
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I thought about this before I started, but I added the other stuff because for more erections through out the day.
 
I have notice that the pge1 is not as potent if you use it three days in a row. Will try 2 days on and 1 off schedule. I have added igf-1 lgr3. I did 4mcg yesterday. I did reconstituted with 0.6% AA and diluted it with BA before injection. It did not hurt, but the pge1 still did.

After reading Stagestops' posts on Thunder I have started a manual stretching routine 3 times a day and plan to use my generic [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for 3 hours on the day I don't use Pge1

I have notice the intense pressure/pain when I'm on PGE1 when I stand up and try to kegel. I hold it for 30 seconds and rest for a couple than repeat.
 
Mistake;496021 said:
I have notice that the pge1 is not as potent if you use it three days in a row. Will try 2 days on and 1 off schedule. I have added igf-1 lgr3. I did 4mcg yesterday. I did reconstituted with 0.6% AA and diluted it with BA before injection. It did not hurt, but the pge1 still did.

After reading Stagestops' posts on Thunder I have started a manual stretching routine 3 times a day and plan to use my generic [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for 3 hours on the day I don't use Pge1

I have notice the intense pressure/pain when I'm on PGE1 when I stand up and try to kegel. I hold it for 30 seconds and rest for a couple than repeat.
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You may want to try just IGF-1, not the lr-3. The lr-3 stays in your body for a long time, whereas IGF-1 doesn't. You really only need it to be in your penis for 20 min or so.
From the patent I read, it was IGF-1 that was used as the potentiator, not lr-3.
 
MikeShlort;496056 said:
You may want to try just IGF-1, not the lr-3. The lr-3 stays in your body for a long time, whereas IGF-1 doesn't. You really only need it to be in your penis for 20 min or so.
From the patent I read, it was IGF-1 that was used as the potentiator, not lr-3.
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What patent includes IGF-1? Anyways, I have some IGF-1 DES on the way.

I took yesterday off and only did some stretching. I notice after 30 minutes of stretching it causes the temporary instant girth I gain for injecting to go down. I don't know why.
 
I would also like to add be careful where you get your igf-1. Just because the the pge-1 works doesn't mean the igf-1 is legit.
 
Mistake;496114 said:
What patent includes IGF-1? Anyways, I have some IGF-1 DES on the way.

I took yesterday off and only did some stretching. I notice after 30 minutes of stretching it causes the temporary instant girth I gain for injecting to go down. I don't know why.
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That patent I gave you the link to.
It is listed as insulin like growth factor, not the short for (IGF1) under potentiators used
 
you mentioned that you couldn't find Potaba in your first post. Potaba is Sodium Para-amino benzoate, its the salt form of PABA (Para-amino benzoic acid) which available as a dietary supplement from any supplement shop. It works the same way and is just as effective as Potaba. You may wanna consider using that instead.

Good luck, keep it up
 
sizerp;496416 said:
You should have got one of these.

[video=youtube;M09LyLqb5qw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M09LyLqb5qw[/video]
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Sounds like a great way to blow off your dick.

The auto injector works great! I got it because I wanted to inject closer to the base because I've added igf-1 and my base is actually 4.85. My skin around my base and tunica seem to be tougher and the skin more sensitive. I kept hesitating when I tried to inject in those areas causing me not go deep enough. I can also set the injector to the depth I want at 1/4 of an inch and not worry about hitting my urethra. I highly recommend it to anyone afraid of the stick. You'll still feel some sting, but not as much if you try to go slowly.
 
Did 3 hours in [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] yesterday and 30 minutes today before shot pretty sure I haven't gained any length yet, but haven't measured. Thickness is good. I've been taking warm bathes after the shot and the engorgement is noticeable, afterwards I can't get my index finger and thumb to touch.

Going to use a knee strap [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] because I want to use an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] at work...I can't risk using the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] at work.
 
Mistake;497728 said:
afterwards I can't get my index finger and thumb to touch.
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Love this! Best girth measurement:)
 
I find I get a consistent response now from just 5 iu if I dilute the mix by adding 20 iu of BA. I got the idea from reading stagestop's post abou diluting igf so it can circulate more.
 
Mistake;498133 said:
I find I get a consistent response now from just 5 iu if I dilute the mix by adding 20 iu of BA. I got the idea from reading stagestop's post abou diluting igf so it can circulate more.
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Nice, good idea
 
Supra;498263 said:
How has this been going?
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I am watching this is 3 different places but so far a ton of research and experimentation. I hope we come to some conclusions on this.
 
The only thing you will do by injecting your penis with needles if screw it up and possible cause a build up of scar tissue that would result in peyronies disease.

Is that worth it for something that does not work?
 
Supra;498388 said:
The only thing you will do by injecting your penis with needles if screw it up and possible cause a build up of scar tissue that would result in peyronies disease.

Is that worth it for something that does not work?
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Well I use really small needles so I don't think that'll happen. I asked a doctor those questions already.

I've noticed improvements from the 9 doses I've had already. Too early to tell, really. Once I've been on it over two months I will report my results. I intend to stay on the program for 18 months minimum.

I recall reading posts on you wanting to take HGH? You'd think you would have more of an open mind... HGH has more side effects than anything I've heard of.

According to the case studies of that patent and Roneille, it does work. Hopefully Petersouth, Mistake, Kingsnake and myself are all as lucky as those gentlemen and we can report our findings.
 
MikeShlort;498393 said:
Well I use really small needles so I don't think that'll happen. I asked a doctor those questions already.

I've noticed improvements from the 9 doses I've had already. Too early to tell, really. Once I've been on it over two months I will report my results. I intend to stay on the program for 18 months minimum.

I recall reading posts on you wanting to take HGH? You'd think you would have more of an open mind... HGH has more side effects than anything I've heard of.

According to the case studies of that patent and Roneille, it does work. Hopefully Petersouth, Mistake, Kingsnake and myself are all as lucky as those gentlemen and we can report our findings.
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Click on the link in my signature and read the full story on HGH, and you will also realize I warn people against taking it and injecting anything into there penis.

HGH used correctly has amazing benefits that far outweigh the negatives. I didn't take HGH to make my penis bigger.

Tell me more about PGE1, how is it any different than viagra or cialis?
 
Supra;498394 said:
Click on the link in my signature and read the full story on HGH, and you will also realize I warn people against taking it and injecting anything into there penis.

HGH used correctly has amazing benefits that far outweigh the negatives. I didn't take HGH to make my penis bigger.

Tell me more about PGE1, how is it any different than viagra or cialis?
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It's a vasodilator, it makes the blood vessels expand. Viagra (sildenafil): "It acts by inhibiting cGMP-specific phosphodiesterase type 5, an enzyme that promotes degradation of cGMP, which regulates blood flow in the penis."

Viagra is sometimes used a potentiator in the program (to make the dose more potent and keep the penis harder longer).

I guess you could always just watch our progress threads and see if it gives us any good results. It's about 75 bucks a month for the treatment, to a lot of people this is not a lot of money for the chance at a bigger penis. I don't mind being a guinea pig at all. Having a small penis and feeling bad about myself was causing much more emotional and physical damage than anything I can imagine. The one thing I am worried about from PGE1 is prostate cancer, but I have not read anything that has linked it with it. It actually is used for patients with ED from having prostate cancer surgery.

Maybe it will make my dick turn black and fall off, or give me absolutely no gains, but also maybe I will be lucky. Will keep you posted
 
Hey Supra. I thought you've tried pge1 injections before. I remember back in the day when you and magnumforce where researching this stuff before the patent even came out. Didn't magnumforce supposetley reach 10 x 8 from this protocal?

Hey DLD. The difference with PGE1 is that it forces an erection. Erection with pge1 injection is completely involuntary which is very convenient because this means you can do other things around your house like cleaning, playing xbox or talking on the phone without having to stay sexual aroused or stimulate yourself to stay hard. No sexual stimulation or sexual thoughts are needed with a pge1 induced erection.

With viagra and cialas you still have to be sexual excited and for some guys still have to stimulate your self to mantain hard wood for 2 to 4 hrs. Most guys don't have the disipline or the patients to stay aroused and stimulate them selves for 2 to 4 hrs at a time. With pge1 you don't have to worry about that.

Secondly pge1 promotes tissue elasticity and actually unlinks and unweaves the cologen fibers of the tunica. The pge1 not only causes a massive engorged erection but it unlinks cologen and weakens the tunica for more expansion and tissue growth to take place. PGE1 is far more superior then viagra and cialas.
 
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kingsnake;498481 said:
Hey DLD. The difference with PGE1 is that it forces an erection. Erection with pge1 injection is completely involuntary which is very convenient because this means you can do other things around your house like cleaning, playing xbox or talking on the phone without having to stay sexual aroused or stimulate yourself to stay hard. No sexual stimulation or sexual thoughts are need with a pge1 induced erection.
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Thank for that. ​ would love to try this stuff!
 
kingsnake;498481 said:
Hey Supra. I thought you've tried pge1 injections before. I remember back in the day when you and magnumforce where researching this stuff before the patent even came out. Didn't magnumforce supposetley reach 10 x 8 from this protocal?
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nope never tried it, magnum said he got 10X8 but I doubt it, he never posted a single pic and as soon as he said he got to 10X8 he left. And 10X8 is impossible to be that big. Think about it, his girth is 2" shorter than his length? gimme a break
 
I don't find 8" girth hard to believe at all. In theory, girth should be the easiest thing gained in Penis Enlargement. Internal expansion is easier to achieve than stretching ligaments and tunica.

I've measured 7.25" temporary girth gain after a pumping session. Tied off after the session, went to bed, woke up in the middle of the night with a rager, largest measure was 7.25"
 
hepcat;498540 said:
The girth was in a movie and the length was him standing alone with a videocassette on the top part of his shaft and he was slightly longer than the 7.5" tape. The pic might actually be on lpsg.org. I will check to see if I can find it over there real quick. Also reread the post you replied to. I was editing it but you replied before I finished. My and my OCD always getting me into some mess or another.:blush::)
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Same here. Like every time I see an attractive woman, I have to tickle my scrotum twice, squeeze my shaft six times and twiddle the head of my penis until the police come.
 
ok well lets find some pics of this 10X8 guy first and see if its bullshit or not, i doubt he is bigger than dld
 
Hey Supra. I don't know if that magnum force guy is telling the truth with his chemcial protocal but I do believe that shorty mac's girth is in the 8 inch realm at the base. Just google him and check out some of his vidoes. Just from the sheer size of his dick you can tell he's a good 8 inches toward the base. His shit looks wierd though with his massive shaft and little head.
 
kingsnake;498553 said:
Hey Supra. I don't know if that magnum force guy is telling the truth with his chemcial protocal but I do believe that shorty mac's girth is in the 8 inch realm at the base. Just google him and check out some of his vidoes. Just from the sheer size of his dick you can tell he's a good 8 inches toward the base. His shit looks wierd though with his massive shaft and little head.
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can you just post a link for everyone please
 
I've been using pge1 for about 3 weeks now and right now only girth gains seems noticeable. I've added igf1 des about 2 weeks ago. I don't have a lot of time to do much other Penis Enlargement except the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and every other day at 1.5 hours if I'm lucky more on the weekends. I've use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] about 2 times a week because since using PGe1 I notice fluid build to be pretty fast now. On the other hand with the fluid build up from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] I can already see my goal of 5.75 EG and I'm frankly astonished that some of you guys have 6 plus in girth, of course my dick is significantly shorter

I plan to continue this until the end of the year. Oh yeah I'm also using cialis on off days and TB400 to help prevent scarring.
 
hepcat;498614 said:
How do you get all these medications? Do you have to consult a physician or do you just get it online?
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I was wondering the same thing
 
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