I figured it was of little consequent, but thought I'd check with the maestro. 12.5 is going pretty well right now. 30 min is starting to become very doable. I think I'll ride this month out with it and up to 15 for March after measuring and seeing where my gains are.
 
BornInFigi;636366 said:
I figured it was of little consequent, but thought I'd check with the maestro. 12.5 is going pretty well right now. 30 min is starting to become very doable. I think I'll ride this month out with it and up to 15 for March after measuring and seeing where my gains are.

Got my fingers crossed for march, you have been busting your ass I hope to see big changes!
 
BornInFigi;636366 said:
I figured it was of little consequent, but thought I'd check with the maestro. 12.5 is going pretty well right now. 30 min is starting to become very doable. I think I'll ride this month out with it and up to 15 for March after measuring and seeing where my gains are.

I don't know if you mean that you are going to go directly from 12.5 to 15 on March 1st, but I don't recommend that. Is your smallest weight increment 2.5 lbs? If so I highly suggest you go find smaller weights. My weights are .5 lbs, 1.25 lbs, 5 lbs, 10 lbs, and up. If there is a good sports/fishing/hunting store in your area go there and go to the fishing section. That is where you will be able to find almost any increment of weight that you would like and it will cost you less than a dollar a piece. I bought my .5 lbs weight (which is a fishing weight) from one of those stores and if I remember correctly it cost like 75 cents.

Having smaller weights will really help you progress because you can slowly add weight and get used to it instead of jumping up 2.5 lbs at a time and feeling too much pain.

doublelongdaddy;636423 said:
Got my fingers crossed for march, you have been busting your ass I hope to see big changes!

Thanks DLD. I feel like you have this magic PE karma and that if you wish for someone to make gains they will :)

2/18/2015
1 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes at 22.5 lbs

2/19/2015
1 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes at 22.5 lbs
 
boohoohoo;636564 said:
Thanks DLD. I feel like you have this magic PE karma and that if you wish for someone to make gains they will :)

2/18/2015
1 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes at 22.5 lbs

2/19/2015
1 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes at 22.5 lbs

I do have that power, I wish it to be so and so it is!
 
2/20/2015
1 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes at 22.5 lbs

I am a bit frustrated about my size at the moment, and if I do not make it to 8.125 inches BPEL by the 10th of March I am going to return to my previous routine of 2 hour long sets daily.
 
Keep at it boohoohoo, a month is plenty of time for a growth spurt, try not to get frustrated, you have a plan of action if things go less than desired, trust in the process & the ruler will succumb to your will 😃
 
VoorheesXIII;636687 said:
Keep at it boohoohoo, a month is plenty of time for a growth spurt, try not to get frustrated, you have a plan of action if things go less than desired, trust in the process & the ruler will succumb to your will 😃

good words thats what i need specially when i get frustrated and anxious..thanks when the outside world stinks the brotherhood is here to help and support
 
just read through your thread and enjoyed it very much.

and much respect to the weight loss work.

i myself went from being fit athlete to overweight (75kg to 107kg) and now im back down to 83 kg. (which is more natural as i have also grown since then)

and it is hard ass work.

and interesting approach you have taken on the PE there is alot of places where my theory goes against yours. but never the less what you do works.

i like when my concepts gets challenged. keeps me on the edge.

and i love your dedication to your goals.

keep up the good work and remember to enjoy the travel of p.e it is a road traveller very rarely.

and only a few people walk past the 8 inch marker. so remember this is pioneering your doing mate
 
boohoohoo;636681 said:
2/20/2015
1 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes at 22.5 lbs

I am a bit frustrated about my size at the moment, and if I do not make it to 8.125 inches BPEL by the 10th of March I am going to return to my previous routine of 2 hour long sets daily.

Oh, I hope you make your goals! Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.
 
VoorheesXIII;636687 said:
Keep at it boohoohoo, a month is plenty of time for a growth spurt, try not to get frustrated, you have a plan of action if things go less than desired, trust in the process & the ruler will succumb to your will 😃

I believe you are correct and you mentioned something I guess I forgot about. Gains don't seem to come gradually, they just happen all of a sudden in small increments (i.e. a growth spurt). I hope for my own sake that you are right and I hit 8.125 minimum by the 10th of March.

shortdick;636689 said:
good words thats what i need specially when i get frustrated and anxious..thanks when the outside world stinks the brotherhood is here to help and support

I definitely agree with that. All of you guys really help me stay motivated and I can't thank you enough for helping me when I get frustrated.

rocky1243;636692 said:
You got this buddy.

Thanks man, I hope so. It would be amazing if I could continue this 30 minute a day routine and see it take me past 9 inches at the least.

Aimingforthetop;636704 said:
just read through your thread and enjoyed it very much.

and much respect to the weight loss work.

i myself went from being fit athlete to overweight (75kg to 107kg) and now im back down to 83 kg. (which is more natural as i have also grown since then)

and it is hard ass work.

and interesting approach you have taken on the PE there is alot of places where my theory goes against yours. but never the less what you do works.

i like when my concepts gets challenged. keeps me on the edge.

and i love your dedication to your goals.

keep up the good work and remember to enjoy the travel of p.e it is a road traveller very rarely.

and only a few people walk past the 8 inch marker. so remember this is pioneering your doing mate

It is always nice to hear from a fellow [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] brother that I haven't communicated with before. I'm definitely with you on both the weight loss and the PE goals. I am going to make both of those things into my bitch through the course of 2015. When I get more time I will look into your thread and give it a read. Good luck to you too bro.

doublelongdaddy;636721 said:
Oh, I hope you make your goals! Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

DLD, how about you let me borrow an inch or two? As big as you are you can afford to lose a couple of inches and still be huge :) Your constant posts on my thread and checking in on me is more than enough, thanks for that!

2/21/2015
1 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes at 22.5 lbs

Wow, so I just realized I have been at the same weight for 11 days now. Tomorrow I will increase by either .5 lbs or 1.25 lbs and see how that goes. I believe by the time I measure again on 3/10/2015 I will be above 25 lbs, so lets see if that translates into any increased BPEL. Fingers crossed!
 
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boohoohoo;636984 said:
lol

2/23/2015
1 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes at 23.75 lbs

Good weight!
 
doublelongdaddy;637033 said:

I am really hoping that this high level of weight will allow me to continue to see gains while on doing one 30 minute set a day. If that happens I will be INCREDIBLY happy.

2/24/2015
1 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes at 23.75 lbs

I can't wait until the 10th of March to see if and how much progress I have made!
 
BornInFigi;637165 said:
23.75... Crazy!!!

Honestly I barely even feel it, although to be truthful I finally feel my ligs stretching a bit because of this weight.

2/25/2015
1 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes at 23.75
 
boohoohoo;637171 said:
Honestly I barely even feel it, although to be truthful I finally feel my ligs stretching a bit because of this weight.

2/25/2015
1 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes at 23.75

Like a boss.
 
boohoohoo;637171 said:
Honestly I barely even feel it, although to be truthful I finally feel my ligs stretching a bit because of this weight.

2/25/2015
1 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes at 23.75

So kick it up to 25 pounds:)
 
boohoohoo;637457 said:
:)



Soon, very very soon!

2/26/2015
1 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 30[/words] minutes at 23.75 lbs

Good, 25 is such a good number to be at. For me it was a big deal, the next came at 50.
 
I just wanted to update my routine thread because I have been off for a couple of days.

I have come to the conclusion based on measuring and visual inspection that hanging one set for 30 minutes a day is not cutting it in terms of leading toward gains. This caused me a great deal of stress and a bit of depression since I spent nearly two months testing out this strategy, but now it is time to move back to doing my old routine of two individual hour long sets. I will continue that routine well into June and if I hit 8.5 BPEL I will know for a fact that it works, so that is my next goal.

I will continue my PE journey either tonight or tomorrow.
 
So as I wrote in the last post after two months of consideration I have come to the conclusion that hanging heavy for a short period of time does not work for me as far as making gains. I took a few days off out of frustration and to get my head straight again, and now I have returned back to my old routine:

3/2/2015
2 x 1 hour at 15 lbs

So here is my evaluation of my current routine with respect to what I learned and felt during the hardcore hanging routine of my past two months.

First off, 15 lbs feels so damn light! I barely even feel anything puling on my penis, although since I do sets as long as I do my penis does get somewhat numb after a while. Aside from that, however, it feels great!

Second, while I am currently hanging my second set as I type this, my first set earlier today made me feel like my penis was getting stretched gradually further than with the hardcore hanging routine. What I have noticed is that the hanger slowly pulls my penis further and further, and this only truly occurs because of the length of the set. So if what I am feeling is actually the case, this method seems like it will lead to more flaccid stretch gains, and ultimately BPEL and NBPEL gains.

Third, I am going to keep this routine until June 1 without measuring (hopefully since I have a NEED to measure every damn day). I am not going to add any weight, and I want to see if I can continue to make gains with just using 15 lbs. I remember seeing a clip of Arnold Schwarzenegger on Conan O'Brien where he mentioned that Conan should hang 10 lbs off his dick and it would eventually get longer and longer. I don't know how much of that was intended to just be comedic, but I think there is definitely some value in just sticking to 15 lbs. I do not agree with StillWantMore's idea about needing to continue to raise the weight in order to see further gains (not attacking SWM, this is just my opinion). If [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] work at all, then that should prove that sticking to a single amount of force can lead to gains since [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] work on the basis of using the same amount of resistance but for as many hours as possible. Also, if it was necessary for the weight in hanging to continue to increase, which would be the force applied, then this would also mean that manual work would never work since you always are using the same strength of your hands and arms and the amount of force is not changing much over time.

So all that being said, my next goal is to reach 8.5 inches BPEL by June. If I hit that or somewhere near it I will be more than happy and will continue this routine for as long as necessary/possible or until I reach my ultimate goal of over 10 inches BPEL.
 
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Thanks for the update boohoohoo, i was wondering what you were doin. Even if you feel like your efforts were not getting the results you desired, you have at least given me a vicarious trial & error for my future work in length so thank you 😀 appreciate it.
 
Kinda makes me think about dropping hanging all together and use that 20-30 min for more stretches either manual or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]. I do like hanging. I am just not able to find 2 hrs a day to devote to it. Or maybe since I am going straight in to hanging from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] stretches, there could be a synergism at hand there making the hang somewhat productive?
 
BornInFigi;638375 said:
Kinda makes me think about dropping hanging all together and use that 20-30 min for more stretches either manual or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]. I do like hanging. I am just not able to find 2 hrs a day to devote to it. Or maybe since I am going straight in to hanging from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] stretches, there could be a synergism at hand there making the hang somewhat productive?

I like the idea of hanging but whenever I have done a serious routine I just can't gain like that. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], to me, is a much better way to go.
 
VoorheesXIII;638072 said:
Thanks for the update boohoohoo, i was wondering what you were doin. Even if you feel like your efforts were not getting the results you desired, you have at least given me a vicarious trial & error for my future work in length so thank you 😀 appreciate it.

No problem. Hopefully over the coming months I can give you much more information on hanging as I (hopefully) progress.

BornInFigi;638375 said:
Kinda makes me think about dropping hanging all together and use that 20-30 min for more stretches either manual or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]. I do like hanging. I am just not able to find 2 hrs a day to devote to it. Or maybe since I am going straight in to hanging from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] stretches, there could be a synergism at hand there making the hang somewhat productive?

You never know how any given PE technique is going to effect you as an individual. You very well could end up gaining 3 inches of length from hanging only 20 minutes a day, or you could gain nothing. The key is to try it for a period of 1 to three months and then gauge your results.

doublelongdaddy;638417 said:
I like the idea of hanging but whenever I have done a serious routine I just can't gain like that. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], to me, is a much better way to go.

I honestly still like hanging and think it works, it is just that hanging only one short set a day wasn't giving me the gains I wanted.


Anyways, to update my thread I actually did hang for a couple of days after my last post, but then I suddenly got a horrible sickness and was unable to do anything until today. I was literally on the toilet all day for a few days, so I didn't have the time or energy to hang, especially not for 2 hours. Since I was doing the 30 minute a day most of this month and the rest of it I missed from being sick I will not be measuring tomorrow like I normally would (the 10th of each month is my measurement day). Instead I will measure next month and in the meantime work very hard.

3/9/2015
2 x 1 hour at 15 lbs
 
So I had a pretty bad experience tonight that I want to share, although I feel like most of you guys will think this is obvious and that I should have known better.

I was about to have sex for the first time with a girl I met recently and my dick would just not get hard for the life of me. Like in a thirty minute span I got hard once for about a minute or two and the rest of the time I stayed pretty much entirely limp. I am pretty sure this was caused by the two hours of hanging prior to me seeing her. Also it could have been the alcohol that I drank prior to us hitting the bed, but I am inclined to believe it was the hanging.

Note to self: do not do PE the day of a sexual encounter...
 
boohoohoo;639107 said:
So I had a pretty bad experience tonight that I want to share, although I feel like most of you guys will think this is obvious and that I should have known better.

I was about to have sex for the first time with a girl I met recently and my dick would just not get hard for the life of me. Like in a thirty minute span I got hard once for about a minute or two and the rest of the time I stayed pretty much entirely limp. I am pretty sure this was caused by the two hours of hanging prior to me seeing her. Also it could have been the alcohol that I drank prior to us hitting the bed, but I am inclined to believe it was the hanging.

Note to self: do not do PE the day of a sexual encounter...

Don't be to hard on yourself brother. We have all been there and will be there again. It's hard to know when the mood will strike. I would relish that a female wanted to spend intimate time with you and that says a lot and goes a long way in my book. We all strive to have a big penis and bring our a game, but no team has a perfect record. Keep yer chin up big man. Next time lay off the hardcore PE and sauce and I'm sure you'll get her what for.
 
boohoohoo;639107 said:
So I had a pretty bad experience tonight that I want to share, although I feel like most of you guys will think this is obvious and that I should have known better.

I was about to have sex for the first time with a girl I met recently and my dick would just not get hard for the life of me. Like in a thirty minute span I got hard once for about a minute or two and the rest of the time I stayed pretty much entirely limp. I am pretty sure this was caused by the two hours of hanging prior to me seeing her. Also it could have been the alcohol that I drank prior to us hitting the bed, but I am inclined to believe it was the hanging.

Note to self: do not do PE the day of a sexual encounter...

Bro just over a month ago I had a similar experience and posted it on my journal. lol



" Your boy was gonna get laid today with a new chic, but between putting on condom etc I couldn't keep a boner.

Stop masturbation lesson learned.

P.S. Still sucked on them titties thouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh! hahhaahahahah

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Hey guys,

Just an update here on the conclusions I have come to and what my new plan of attack will be.

I have decided to give up hanging at least for the time being. Although I am relatively happy with the gains I have made, I still never passed my best length mark of 8 inches BPEL. If I continue to hang I feel I may continue to grow, but my biggest concern is the erection quality issues that have been coming up as a result of hanging. That night that I posted I couldn't get an erection for more than a few seconds led me to do a bit of research and apparently urologists call lack of morning wood and erection issues the first "warning signs" of worse problems to come.


For that reason I have decided to transition into non-erect wet jelqing 20 minutes a day every other day. I have heard of many individuals, including DLD himself, make huge gains with just manual work that is centered around the jelq. Also, from what I remember with my short stint of jelqing it does help erection quality, and if nothing else doesn't hurt it. At this point my goals is still to get to around 10 inches, and I will be more than satisfied with 1 inch gained a year if that is possible.

So, beginning on Sunday I will start jelqing every other day until mid August. If I am happy with the results I will continue, and if not I will look into other methods and possibly reevaluate hanging. I'll be back to reporting my work every session beginning on Sunday!
 
What are the issues with the hanging? Is it know to cause ed? Seems like everything in PE causes ed for some guys and cure it in others.

Thanks for sharing. This type of issue is pretty personal. The brotherhood respects you for your vulnerability. I'm sure you are abreast of why this is causing you difficulty, but are there any other non PE related issues that you can work on like diet and exercise to better your eq? Or perhaps work your PE to the end of the day or beginning of the day to better recover in case of sexual contact? Don't get lost in your own head either. Getting in a doubt cycle is awful. I would also add that basic manual stretches and an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] give me very good erections afterward. Just one mans experience.
 
BornInFigi;639710 said:
What are the issues with the hanging? Is it know to cause ed? Seems like everything in PE causes ed for some guys and cure it in others.

Thanks for sharing. This type of issue is pretty personal. The brotherhood respects you for your vulnerability. I'm sure you are abreast of why this is causing you difficulty, but are there any other non PE related issues that you can work on like diet and exercise to better your eq? Or perhaps work your PE to the end of the day or beginning of the day to better recover in case of sexual contact? Don't get lost in your own head either. Getting in a doubt cycle is awful. I would also add that basic manual stretches and an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] give me very good erections afterward. Just one mans experience.

I really can't say if hanging causes erection issues. My diet has been poor for about a couple of years now and I pretty much totally stopped exercising a year or so ago. Those two things combined with the stress of any form of PE could be causing the ED. That being said, I am putting hanging on the shelf for the time being because at this point I feel like it is directly the reason that I am having erection issues.

You have to take into consideration that my type of hanging is unlike most (if not all) men's. I was hanging for an hour straight with no break twice a day at 15 lbs. Often times my two daily sets were done within an hour or two of each other. That by itself is enough to cause stress to the point of leading to erection issues IMO. Since I stopped PE a week or two ago it took a bit but my erection quality is coming back.

I also have some other reasons for setting aside hanging. Here they are:

1. It takes too damn long. I really hated hanging really heavy for only one 30 minute set a day. It didn't feel good and I certainly couldn't see myself doing it for years. So that left me going back to my proven old style of two hours a day. Although I like to try to make it work, it is just too much. Who knows, I may throw in one daily set of 30 minutes at a constant weight of 15 lbs which I won't increase. The point, however, is that at this point I don't want to make my life revolve around PE which is what was happening with those 2 hour daily routines. I am fine with a slower rate of gains as long as what I do does in fact lead to gains.

2. I have only really heard of three people gaining more than 2 inches from hanging, and I am not so sure of their results. The first guy is Dash Deming who made the sticky on hardcore hanging. While I don't deny his results, my experience doing one heavy set a day was unpleasant to say the least. The other two are Bib and StillWantMore. Now I am not going to say these two guys lied about their results, but I certainly have never seen any proof and it isn't just a coincidence that those two make hangers for sale.

3. DLD used the jelq heavily to make his early gains. He also claimed to hang monster weights for many sets a day and says he only gaine .5 inches in 6 months. When I think about how he gained very little despite huge efforts with hanging, it just gives me another reason to set it aside. Like I said, I am willing to make gains slowly but surely, and if that means an inch a year so be it.
 
BornInFigi;639755 said:
Stillwantmore makes a hanger?

No worries bother. You got this. As always you are mindful and thoughtful. I wish you luck and can't wait for you to realize your gains.

We make a hanger too called the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words]:)
 
Alright, so here is another update.

I tried jelqing for a few days and I really dislike it. I am not saying it doesn't work, all I am saying is I physically do not like doing it.

With that in mind I decided to take up hanging again. I have seen results from hanging and it is my favorite type of PE, so I think that is reason enough to begin doing it again. I will try to pay better attention to my body from now on so I don't develop erection issues, but I think there are some other things I can do to counteract ED while still hanging:

1. I have started to exercise again.
2. I will begin lifting weights again tomorrow, which always boosts my erections.
3. I just quit smoking, so that should help circulation issues.
4. I will start doing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] and other dry girth exercises as these tend to boost my erection quality, although this will only be done at random.
5. Every time I drive somewhere that takes more than 5-10 minutes I will try to kegel as much as possible

Anyways, I am back to hanging and doing my first set for the day as I type this. I will begin posting again tonight :)
 
Good to see you pushin on man 😀 I gave horny goat weed a try when i needed some extra kick when doin my 5x5x3 sessions for girth, found that was really good all round, morning wood was/is off the charts! keeps a mean flaccid pump too 😆
 
VoorheesXIII;640113 said:
Good to see you pushin on man 😀 I gave horny goat weed a try when i needed some extra kick when doin my 5x5x3 sessions for girth, found that was really good all round, morning wood was/is off the charts! keeps a mean flaccid pump too 😆

Hmm, I might have to look into that next time I have the chance to have sex with a new woman. I am always concerned that those types of pills cause health problems though.

3/24/2015
2 x 1 hour at 15 lbs
 
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