Mistake;500913 said:
Started to use a leg strap ADS to help prevent turtling and attempt to always be in an extended state.


That a boy! SRT in effect!
 
I did 2 days with out injecting because I think I went overboard on labor day weekend.
 
I've stopped using IGF because wasn't sure if I was benefiting from it. I had to increase my dose to 14iu of PGE1 to last 3 hours now, but it no longer hurts!

One thing I do recommend is to continue to do Kegels when your on PGE1. I've been doing kegels for the past week and I feel it really helps with expansion. I'm up to a max of 5.45 MEG when on PGE1 and 12hours after my last shot I'm at 5.25 MEG.

No noticeable gain in length yet...
 
since stopping igf my non enhance EQ and stamina has improved dramatically. I think it was because I was using too much. IGF1 can increase progesterone which can effect EQ.
 
Still injecting. I haven't had a lot of time to do any stretches just 15 minutes in the morning. I'm now up to 20iu of pge1. I usually do kegels in ta warm tub for about 20 minutes. Still haven't measured length but girth gains are very noticeable.
 
Mistake;506222 said:
Still injecting. I haven't had a lot of time to do any stretches just 15 minutes in the morning. I'm now up to 20iu of pge1. I usually do kegels in ta warm tub for about 20 minutes. Still haven't measured length but girth gains are very noticeable.


You gotta step up the stretching. How about 3 sets a day of 10 minutes? That would add a lot of exercise for a little time.
 
doublelongdaddy;506783 said:
You gotta step up the stretching. How about 3 sets a day of 10 minutes? That would add a lot of exercise for a little time.

I agree, if you want length gains with this stuff you have to stretch one way or another.

Try stretching after it wears off, you'll notice a big difference.
 
MikeShlort;507053 said:
Do you do your manual stretches before or after the Bathmate hard core stretches Peter?

That's a good question, I'm not sure which is best.

The only way I've ever been able to do manual stretches is before because after it's too hard to work with all deformed and retaining water. It tends to get tough as well.

So lately I've been going flaccid and then doing 3 sets of manuals followed by flaccid Bathmate stretches.

I still feel that familiar pain since the PGE-1 is in there but I don't know which is better.
 
petersouth;507224 said:
That's a good question, I'm not sure which is best.

The only way I've ever been able to do manual stretches is before because after it's too hard to work with all deformed and retaining water. It tends to get tough as well.

So lately I've been going flaccid and then doing 3 sets of manuals followed by flaccid Bathmate stretches.

I still feel that familiar pain since the PGE-1 is in there but I don't know which is better.

Wow you do 3 sets in each direction (including left and right) for thirty seconds each? That must take a solid 30-40 minutes?

Do you still wear your extender 4 hours a day?
 
I've been sick for the past couple of days and didn't do any injections for 4 days. Good news is that even without PGE1 I've maintained meg of5.25 and when I did an injection I was back a 5.5.

I know I need to keep stretching will have to double efforts in this area. Planning on finally measuring length at the end of this month...I don't have great expectations of any mind blowing gains thought.
 
Mistake;507651 said:
I've been sick for the past couple of days and didn't do any injections for 4 days. Good news is that even without PGE1 I've maintained meg of5.25 and when I did an injection I was back a 5.5.

I know I need to keep stretching will have to double efforts in this area. Planning on finally measuring length at the end of this month...I don't have great expectations of any mind blowing gains thought.


I hope you feel better! I was hoping the injections would bring gains, I still have hope here but I would love to see you step up on the manual work when you can. I think the combination of the injections with the manual work will make gains come faster.
 
MikeShlort;507253 said:
Wow you do 3 sets in each direction (including left and right) for thirty seconds each? That must take a solid 30-40 minutes?

Do you still wear your extender 4 hours a day?

No I don't do it, too difficult with work and everything and I don't think I ever saw any gains from it for as much as I futzed around with it.

I think mainly my length gains came from DLD hardcore Bathmate stretches and nothing else so far.

I never did manual stretches enough to matter and I never noticed anything from the SG. The reason I never did manuals is I don't think they did anything for me, everything was too tight. I am a stiff, strong type person with bad flexibility. I work really hard to stay limber with splits and the like and it only helps so much. Down there is not much different.

Now it may be a different story wit PGE1, it's a game changer. That's the only reason I started doing manuals again.
 
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Still injecting... I've notice that my girth gains have stalled. I've stabilized at 5.25 without PGE1 but with PGE1 I'm stuck at 5.5

I haven't done any sessions with Bathmate in over 2 weeks because the fluid build up was nice but I noticed my EQ had suffered. I think this may have been because of the IGF-1 I was using. Going to do a couple of sessions this week and see if I blast through this plateau.

I've also measured. I'm still at 5.25 EL. So I have to step up my manual stretching.
 
Mistake - Would you elaborate a little more on the autoinjector?

I mean what is the pain level like?

I'm getting one but I'm afraid to use the thing. I mean the idea of a needle being driven into my dick at high speed seems disconcerting given the pain of my slow injections.

Also are you using fixed needle that holds a whole syringe or is it a seperate needle?

Thanks
 
petersouth;508839 said:
Mistake - Would you elaborate a little more on the autoinjector?

I mean what is the pain level like?

I'm getting one but I'm afraid to use the thing. I mean the idea of a needle being driven into my dick at high speed seems disconcerting given the pain of my slow injections.

Also are you using fixed needle that holds a whole syringe or is it a seperate needle?

Thanks

I have one, the doctor used it once on me but I just do it freehand, haven't used mine myself. It didn't hurt much at all when he used it on me, hurts more when I do it freehand. Pressing in slowly is what hurts I think, as opposed to a quick puncture. I don't use mine because I'm afraid I'll miss the spot and it seems like just more of a hassle.

The thing basically is like a pen with a big hole for the syringe to go through, and it catapults the entire syringe towards the end of the injector, to the spot you're aiming at the press of a button. Then, you press down the plunger of the syringe all the way, then remove the device.
 
Sorry about the delay. Anyways I usually stay erect for about 3hours. 2 days on 1off. I think the lack of a consistent manual routine really did me in. But at least I'm gaining girth!

As for the auto injector I have it set at 1/4 of an inch so I don't go too far. Inject ease is pretty simple to use fill syringe, put in auto injector find spot and push trigger. You can than inject at your own pace. I'm not a fan of going slow with injections too much pain IMO.

I've started to use the Bathmate again. Just 10 minutes per session and I'm not getting good expansion without too much fluid build up!

Last session I was up to 5.75 and I was able to put on a condom, which is usually a not the case because of fluid build up.
 
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