4-hour self-induced erection

franz · Aug 27, 2006

Vaseline_Knight said:
is this along the lines of 'penile ballooning' and what that chinese doctor.. (Dr. lim or smthgn?) claims to work?

I dont really understand as his site is full of none sense. he says its possible to gain 1-3 inches by his method, says that ejaculation must be held back at least 3-5 times and that once you're close to ejaculation you should massage the root of the penis.

I know alotta people here think he's an ass clown, but let's at least discuss this.

Yes. This thread is exactly as valid as this "chinese doctor" (who is a civil engineer) and his pills.

goldmember · Aug 27, 2006

franz said:
Yes. This thread is exactly as valid as this "chinese doctor" (who is a civil engineer) and his pills.

I respect your opinion, but there is no disputing the results of the Penis Enlargement PATENT. Men gained over two inches in a year by following the same routine I posted in post#1, three times a week, at 40-90% erection level. Please be a little more open-minded.

prince Albert · Aug 27, 2006

GM,did you just maintain the erection or did you do any pe during the 4 hours,jelq or erect bends?

goldmember · Aug 27, 2006

prince Albert said:
GM,did you just maintain the erection or did you do any pe during the 4 hours,jelq or erect bends?

Pretty much sat there and stroked it a little. Not violently, just very slowly, like a jelqing pace or slower, to stay hard. I tried kegelling blood into my glans a bit, and reverse kegelling, but that's the extent of it.

Vaseline_Knight · Aug 27, 2006

prince Albert said:
GM,did you just maintain the erection or did you do any pe during the 4 hours,jelq or erect bends?

That's exactly the question I had.

And Gold, so you don't think the potentiator and the Potaba that they were taking to make the tissue more flexible had anything to do with the gains?

I mean here's what I have difficulty with.

we're saying that when we jelq in blood to the penis, we're forcing blood into the cavernosa chambers, possibly making them grow past the maximum errection level. Same thing goes with clamping. But just maintaining a 100% errection, doesn't push the status quo. you're just where you were with no extra push past plastic deformation.

The more I dig into Penis Enlargement the more confused I get sometimes. Are we growing the Tunica, or the CC and CS? either way how does having a prolonged errection help either of these tissues to grow past their already established limits?

goinfor11x7 · Aug 27, 2006

I've hit my longest length and thickest girth (temporary, of course) edging (or ballooning) for two to three hours non-stop. Each time my erection starts to wane, I push it to a new level. Each time I start to ejaculate, I ease off. The trick here is not to ejaculate, but to keep the blood pulsing into your shaft. I keep visualizing my dick longer and thicker, longer and thicker. Sometimes I lose my focus and I lose my erection.

So I rest for a few minutes and begin the session again. Of course I'm not starting from ground zero. I'm simply picking up where I left off. My new
erections and girth size are usually equal to or greater than my preceding ones.

I"m not just maintaining my hardest erection for as long as I can. I'm dry jelqing, stretching, kegeling my ass off non-stop so that each 100% erection is a tiny bit longer than the one before.

Normally I do this after no sex or masturbation for a week or two. I may take a quarter viagra before I start, but not always. It depends on how "flushed" my dick is that day.

Hope this is helpful.

Chi · Aug 27, 2006

Vaseline_Knight said:
Thanks a millions Chi
It's quite clear now.

so contracting the PC muscle squeezes the prostate. that's good to delay ejaculation. Am I correct? or is it the BC muscle we have to contract to delay ejaculation.

Contracting the PC will squeeze the prostate gland. Contracting the BC at the right time can stop ejaculation, but to delay it you need to relax both during sex.

Vaseline_Knight said:
I remember reading that the semenal fluids build up in the prostate gland, and with the force of the testicles they're expelled through the penis and hence pumping the prostate or kegelling will interrupt this sequence.

Yes and No. They are expelled with BC contractions. I think that the best way to not ejaculate would be to contract the PC only before reaching the point of no return and keeping the BC completely relaxed all along. Becouse this is almost imposible (to me at least, and I can isolate them quite well), I contract both real hard and long when reaching the point of no return.

Vaseline_Knight said:
but i also remember reading that if you kegel hard, it makes you come faster. ? ?

If you have poor control over your BC this will be true, because the BC goes into involuntary contractions when you orgasm unless you can conciously relax it or contract it real hard. Both will prevent the contractions. Most importantly as you increase excitement level, many muscles in the area start to slowly increase tension and this somehow speeds up the orgasm. I don't know, but maybe that involves increased pressure on the prostate.

We can discuss the PC vs BC thing in another thread, but I don't think we can correct such a deeply rooted conceptual misconception in the Penis Enlargement comunity. And anyway, this is not what this thread is about, so my apologies to Goldmember and everyone else who is interested in the effect of prolonged erections (like me too).

goldmember · Aug 28, 2006

Your post certainly has merit, but just give it a try and you will see that tissue is certainly being tested to the point of plastic deformation, exercised or not. Pubescent boys don't do erect bends while sleeping yet still manage to gain 1-2" sometimes in the matter of one year. Growth factors likely have a role, as does the basic physics behind the internal stretch due to circulation. As far as Potaba potentiating gains, I really can't say. Potaba is only marginally effective for treating peyronnies, so maybe it isn't all it's cracked up to be. The PGE1 certainly has merit, however. The prostaglandins upregulate androgen receptors in the penis, which may accelerate growth.

Vaseline_Knight said:
That's exactly the question I had.

And Gold, so you don't think the potentiator and the Potaba that they were taking to make the tissue more flexible had anything to do with the gains?

I mean here's what I have difficulty with.

we're saying that when we jelq in blood to the penis, we're forcing blood into the cavernosa chambers, possibly making them grow past the maximum errection level. Same thing goes with clamping. But just maintaining a 100% errection, doesn't push the status quo. you're just where you were with no extra push past plastic deformation.

The more I dig into Penis Enlargement the more confused I get sometimes. Are we growing the Tunica, or the CC and CS? either way how does having a prolonged errection help either of these tissues to grow past their already established limits?

franz · Aug 28, 2006

goldmember said:
I respect your opinion, but there is no disputing the results of the Penis Enlargement PATENT. Men gained over two inches in a year by following the same routine I posted in post#1, three times a week, at 40-90% erection level. Please be a little more open-minded.

Working in science and with patents I know that about a third of the filed patenst in the US are plain bogus, another third does not disclose the full information to reproduce the results.
Therefor I can very well dispute the validity of the patent application.

In addition the procedure in the patent is a little bit more elaborate to put it nicely isn´t it?

goldmember · Aug 28, 2006

franz said:
In addition the procedure in the patent is a little bit more elaborate to put it nicely isn´t it?

:D You would be right on that one. As I mentioned before, 'large1' has gained 1/8" in length and 3/8" girth in only three months using this method, although like you said, his method is a bit more elaborate involving PGE1 injections. I think we should pay close attention to his gains (or lack thereof) in the next several months.

Nelly Gay · Aug 29, 2006

redpubes said:
I think you are supposed to go to the hospital if it is up for that long. How do they get it down? Do they take blood or something?

Depending on the actual cause of the priapism; they either use a large-bore needle to drain some of the excess blood or ,in less prolonged erections, they can manually deflate (?!!) the organ.
If Cavarject injections are the problem anti-histamines are given.
Valium sedates the nervous patient !

franz · Aug 29, 2006

Nelly Gay said:
Depending on the actual cause of the priapism; they either use a large-bore needle to drain some of the excess blood or ,in less prolonged erections, they can manually deflate (?!!) the organ.
If Cavarject injections are the problem anti-histamines are given.
Valium sedates the nervous patient !

Actually they first give 120mg pseudoephedrine and if this not helps an hour later 120mg again. Orally. Then they go for the harsher measures.
Something one should keep in mind if one has ED and is taking cold-medicine.

Vaseline_Knight · Aug 29, 2006

Gold,

I'm not sure if you've heard of someone named 'Aristonace' over at �other forum�. He was a guy that posted his pictures, measured, and had gone from 5x5 to 7x7.

not getting into detail about how the moron(s) at �other forum� felt inadequate and sought to find a reason to ban him (reason : his routine cause discoloration ?

?

) .

His routine is very similar to what you're trying to do here in principle. At �other forum�, the 'clamping guru' there, Big Girtha, advocates 2-12 hour clampathons per day for a 'seasoned' clamper. He says, to apply the clamp and then forget it even if the errection subsides.

Aristocane advises otherwise. He does 3-4 sets of clamping each 15 mins long, with one minute of rest between sets but he keeps errect at 100% during the whole 15 mins. I guess he warms up with jelqing lightly, but he gained i think 1.5 inches in girth and 1 inch in length just doing this.

here's a post by him followed by some pics.

aristocane said:
To be honest, like many of you...i made quick gains in the beginning and then they slowed to a stop. I couldnt figure out why. Thats when i did some research into the nature of the tunica. The tunica consists of ultra tough interwoven collagen bundles that do not break very easily. When you first start pe ing, the tunica has never experienced pressure beyond that of an erection...it is not prepared for the stresses being placed upon it. However, its a fact that the body has a way of adapting to new stessors . So after a while, the intensity that you've used becomes ineffective. A lot of people talk about switching up routines/strategies and all of that, but what it all boils down to is that you have to increase the intensity ( not necessarily repetitions) and maintain that intensity over a longer period of time.

In my workout sessions, i would keep the penis clamped at the highest pressure possible for as long as I could without the penis going numb. The longer I maintained this very high pressure the more the tunica would expand...were talking an expansion rate of the tunica of 1/8 of an inch every 5 minutes that this pressure was maintained!! So what i'd do is keep maximum pressure on the tunica for a span of about 15 minutes and do this 3 or 4 times. Circumference increased from 6 inches around to 8 inches around after one session.

I think a lot of people aren't making gains, simply because they're not stretching the tunica to the point where it needs to be stretched before it actually tears ( I did some research on this and basically when you get past the yielding point of the collagen which makes up the tunica and ligaments in your body, the covalent bonds between the atoms and molecules of the collagen break causing permanent "plastic" deformation.

EVO · Aug 29, 2006

any idea how long it took him to get those gains vk?

German Stallion · Aug 29, 2006

Just some thoughts. I think that the short clamping sessions are the best. That is what I am seeing some awesome girth growth with. Any long time erection will and could cause ED. It might not occur now but in the future, you have the potential of causeing some long term permanent damage. Never sacrifice the future on the alter of the present. GS

Vaseline_Knight · Aug 29, 2006

EVO
I think 2 years, I'm not sure

GS

he advocates edging and kegeling while clamped so that new blood comes in all the time. I agree with you on the merit that oxygen starving the penis is a dangerous thing to do.

goinfor11x7 · Aug 30, 2006

Hmmmmm!! I want my dick to look pink and pretty for the Mrs. I've already experienced discoloration on my legs from the sun. I understand that penile discoloration does fade with time, though. And some dicks are just darker than others, whatever your natural skin color is.

The idiots at T's are always looking for reasons to ban people. Sad.

goinfor11x7 · Aug 30, 2006

When my penis starts to feel "cool," I stop whatever exercise I am doing, and shake it out, usually against my thigh. I think this is especially important for clamping and Lazy Ass Stretches, among others.

Listen to your body, (and penis). They will always tell you when enough is enough.

prince Albert · Aug 30, 2006

Strange how the discoloration only goes as far as his circ scar wonder why that is.

goinfor11x7 · Aug 30, 2006

P.A.

Have you noticed the pic on the far left--there is a dark band around the under side of his penis. I wonder if that is from the wrap?

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