Couldnt really get a grip for stretching, cable clamp broke fucking with my shitty ass captains wench which is a piece of shit and has yet to work for me. Couldnt ADH because of that. Getting another clamp tomorrow, but still...

Blarg, if anyone can help how to work wench and how to get a good grip when stretching let me know.
 
sephin said:
Couldnt really get a grip for stretching, cable clamp broke fucking with my shitty ass captains wench which is a piece of shit and has yet to work for me. Couldnt ADH because of that. Getting another clamp tomorrow, but still...

Blarg, if anyone can help how to work wench and how to get a good grip when stretching let me know.

Have you considered getting a bib?
 
Very much so, but my current financial state leaves me unable. If I could get one that would make me most happy, and that would be my length routine except for three-legged stretches and basic stretches.

Anyways, bad news. Found T-Vein today. It just popped up and I havent done girth in a while, cant even Penis Enlargement til this thing goes. On 400mg Ibuprofen going to massage it and put hot rag on it for long time in the shower tonight, and every night after til it goes.

I knew my base veins in the left were getting too much pressure.

Anyways, maybe once I make some more money I will get one, maybe next month. Also I can only use cash in the mail or paypal so, if he can accept it, that would be nice.

Not gonna let this T-Vein, lack of gains, and lack of money for a Bib get me down. I will not stop, and will never stop. I will always hope and always strive towards my goal, until it is reached be it soon or never.
 
Ok I think I am gonna start a new phase of my current job, and I will be getting paid more frequently, so now I can afford to get a Bib.

My goal is to heal this T-Vein, then start on length stretches + ADH the 11-13th hardcore and let rest til 19th, so I can measure the 19th and have something to report positive.

The 19th I am gonna start my length routine that keeps ligs/tunicae always stretching. Anyhow, depending on what grip I can get, using any means possible, will depend what manual length exercises I can do. Anyhow, I plan to go the routine every other day with ADH everyday for 2-3 hours.

Since I wanna start my 1-month block routines at the beginning of each month to make it nice clean-cut to check gains this I will do an extended length block lasting approx 1 1/2 months. I will go from 9/19/04 to 10/24/04 with the 24th to the 27th being where I do no manual length but ADH as long as possible. Then the 28-31 Ill let my length gains just settle in with no work and measure on 10/31/04. Then Ill go back to 1 month blocks. I think this will net me enough length that I will need to focus on girth to balance it out, so November and December will be girth months.
 
T-Vein slowly going. It has gone down a lot so I am excited. I plan to order a Bib starter hanger soon so that is exciting. Also plan to blow some money middle of next month on an assload of silagra so I can do my constant pump, max engorgement, girth routine for my first month. Itll be like 30$ worth of 100mg silagras.

I changed routine to be less insane to allow healing more, and so I am not jerking off 8 hours a day lol. Every night I will pop a 100mg silagra and just keep max engorgement with clamp on for 4 hours. Every 3 days I will do an intense girth work while on viagra, following my remaining time out of 4 hours keeping max engorgement (which will count as my 4 hour per day. 24 days straight then 6 days rest, makes one awesome month of girth.

Since I am itching to hang I am going to do October as a girth month and november as a length month, then will go to whichever one is farthest from my target goal and do it in December. I also didnt want to do 2 months back to back girth, as I want it to long-term settle in and gauge my program on it.

I keep repeating myself because I keep changing my routine and plans. Sorry if this sounds redundant, but I am writing it to keep my mental focus and planning in order. Anyhow, wish me luck I will keep up to date.
 
sephin said:
T-Vein slowly going. It has gone down a lot so I am excited. I plan to order a Bib starter hanger soon so that is exciting. Also plan to blow some money middle of next month on an assload of silagra so I can do my constant pump, max engorgement, girth routine for my first month. Itll be like 30$ worth of 100mg silagras.


That the move right there! I wish I could afford to do Viagra Girth routines everyday, the sessions are so much more intense. I did get some generic CIALIS a while back and that was good while it lasted.
 
Ok I ordered my Bib Starter today, well I mailed the cash, should be here in a week or so. I plan to move up my measure date since I havent been consistant these last few days and I am still working out not only my routine, but my whole Penis Enlargement philosophy. Anyhow, I am going to try and continue to manual stretch some then ADH with golf weights, waiting for my Bib.

Once hanger is in I will keep doing every day manual length + ADH and adjusting/playing with hanger til I got a suitable weight and configuration ready. After the first week of playing with Bib I will continue to do little, yet intense and targetted manual stretching, followed by hanging with Bib Starter, then ADH hanging with golf weights.

I will do this everyday even when sore, unless the intensity is too much, but I will always ADH, unless the intensity is just too over the top even for that. I will measure on Oct 31, Halloween :)
 
Waiting for hanger expecting it sometime next week. So I guess I will have approx 5 weeks, for my first block of hanging, then another 4 for my second block. Measure dates are Oct 31 and Nov 30.

My hanging routine will go sorta like this.

1st Block Initial Phase

Week 1 - Hanger Testing Phase 9/21 - 10/2
Normal stretch routine then Bib starter hanging.
2 x 10 min @ 5lbs. This will be to test out the adjusting needed for the hanger etc.
ADH after these routines for as long as possible.
Repeat through day 7 until comfortability level and fit is good, without any pains.

Week 2 - 1st Real Week 10/3-10/9
Stretches, 2 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 20[/words] min @ 5lbs, ADH
Repeat through day 7 possibly upping weight if stretch isnt felt.

Week 3 - 10/10-10/16
Stretches, 2x 15 min @ 7.5lbs, ADH
Repeat through day 7 possibly upping weight if stretch isnt felt.

Week 4 - 10/17-10/23
Stretches, 3x 20 min @ 7.5lbs, ADH
Repeat through day 7 possibly upping weight if stretch isnt felt.

Week 5 10/24 - 10/30
Stretches, 3x 15 min @ 10lbs, ADH
Repeat through day 7 possibly upping weight if stretch isnt felt.

10/31 Day off + MEASURING DAY! YAY!

2nd Block Complete Fatigue Phase - Start at first sets/times/pounds then drop 2.5 lbs and hang that 2 sets for 15 minutes, and keep dropping 2.5lbs and repeating til at 25% starting weight, round up (ex: start with 20, end at 5 lbs), OR until you cannot hang one full set of 15 minutes on whatever weight you hang @. If too soon try dropping in 5lb increments.

Week 1 - 11/1-11/7
Stretches, 3x 20 min @ 10lbs to fatigue, ADH
Repeat through day 7 possibly upping weight if stretch isnt felt.

Week 2 - 11/8-11/14
Stretches, 3x 15 min @ 12.5lbs to fatigue, ADH
Repeat through day 7 possibly upping weight if stretch isnt felt.

Week 3 - 11/15-11/21
Stretches, 3x 20 min @ 12.5lbs to fatigue, ADH
Repeat through day 7 possibly upping weight if stretch isnt felt.

Week 4 - 11/22-11/29
Stretches, 3x 15 min @ 15lbs to fatigue, ADH
Repeat through day 7 possibly upping weight if stretch isnt felt.

11/30 Day off + Measuring day!

This might change and I might go up/down the weights and times slower or faster depending on how it all feels.

My current length is just under 8" BP so by 11/30 if my length isnt 9"BP/8.5"NBP), I will continue with length until I am 9"BP/8.5"NBP, before I start girth.

I hope to gain .5" both NBP and BP, alone, off of girth workouts going from 5.5" Behind head, 5.75" Mid-shaft, 6" Base (right now might be thicker after hanging) to my ultimate goal of 6.5" Behind head, 7" Mid-shaft, 7" Base. During this time I also hope to fix my slight left curve.

I think I can reach my goal in this amount of time (1" in 2 months) and if not hopefully by New Years.

To gain 1" behind head, 1.25" mid-shaft, and 1" base, girth I think will take 3-4 months of my hardcore non-stop max engorgement routine, because girth seems hard. So by prom... ;)
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My goal is the biggest possible penis, that can go all the way in, while slowly spreading the pussy wider as the it gets to the thicker mid-shaft and base. Also still able to get head on the first 4 inches while the rest can be jerked with 1-2 hands.

I think once I reach this goal I will stop going for that goal, or I will go for just massive and aim for 12" length with a 7.5" all around girth only used for flogging baby seals and sex. No more head then probably :(
 
Going balls to wall and bringing back that scientific research on the IGF-1 that was in the alternative and EXPenis EnlargementRIMENTAL pe methods forum.

Check it out here http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5768&page=1&pp=20 specifically the last page, and the last few pages.

I am going to hold off on Penis Enlargement, just jelqs, stretches, and kegels until I have accumulated all materials and knowledge for my 4 week super intensive routine.

I think this will start sometime in October, aiming for late October early November. Takes time to collect money, order everything, prepping etc.

I hope to make the biggest 1-month gains recorded here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words]. Hopefully I can find that damned digital cam and I can take pics at beginning and ever week after for 6 weeks showing the 4 week program with pics of progress and all. I plan to keep a very detailed journal typing manually, letter by letter the process I take each day, times, etc, all very detailed.

I am hoping to gain 1" in length and girth. Possibly 1.25" both ways. Who knows these are just estimates. Will keep all the details in the thread in experimental/alternative forum, but will keep financial and gathering information updated here, until I start.
 
Going to get 70$ soon which is owed to me, approx $170 this weekend 25/26th, another $100 from some other shit, that is $340 so I can get the DHT gel (80$?), 1ml IGF-1 LR3($200), 1lb arginine ($30?), Saw Palmetto ($10), bromelain ($10 - prevents scar tissue). I need money to support some other things in life so I will just get the palmetto, bromelain, and arginine and I think I will wait til the 2nd/3rd of October when another 170$ approx rolls in, to get the DHT/IGF.

Hopefully start this by the 10th of october or something. I hope soon though because I am planning to streak this highschool football game November 5th, and I wanna be packing more than I am. So no haters can talk shit because it will be obvious Id be huge, if this works like I hope it to.

Anyways, will keep up to date.
 
Then again might stick with original plan, hang til new years, then hopefully do just viagra/clamping. Not sure if IGF-1 is safe enough to use, and I dont wanna waste 100$ of dollars to make my dick a useless pile.
 
Wow, I haven't read your whole thread but it kind of makes me smile seeing someone as big as you going this drastic for things you may not be sure work. I hope it works for you. I'll be checking in to see how you are doing.
 
Well I got my hanger, I am starting Saturday the 25th. Here comes the testing week

Test Week - Hanger Testing Phase 9/25 - 10/1
Normal stretch routine then Bib starter hanging.
2 x 10 min @ 5lbs. This will be to test out the adjusting needed for the hanger etc.
ADH after these routines for as long as possible.
Repeat through day 7 until comfortability level and fit is good, without any pain.

Each session will include my stretch routine followed by hanging, then ADH with 2lb of golf weights (will increase as I can fit/stand more).
Then I will move on to the real training.
week 1 10/2-10/8 2x 20min @ 5lb
week 2 10/9-10/16 2x 15min @ 7.5lb
week 3 10/17-10/23 3x 20min @ 7.5lb
week 4 10/24 - 10/30 3x 15min @ 10lb

Measuring the 31st. Wish me luck! =D
 
I havent started yet, that is my plan for 5 weeks. I am starting tomorrow, might mess with it today, cut the wraps (ace/rubber stuff), etc.
 
Too tired cuz reffing first 2 days. Tomorrow for sure though. Once I got good setting, since hanging is so easy, I doubt I will ever be too tired for it.

Where can I get rope to levy it to do straight out or OTL OTS etc
 
Started hanging and I like it. Not really feeling any burn @ 5lbs, but then I am not hanging very long. Just working out kinks. Plan on getting clamp tomorrow to replace broken one, then I can ADH, and tomorrow I will start stretching again.
 
Didnt do stretches today or ADH cuz no clamp, but I did hang.

10 min @ 7.5 lbs
15 min @ 7.5lbs
20 min @ 5lbs

Did halfway SB halfway BTC sorta setup for first 2 then mainly BTC the last set.

SKin on pubic area and on side of base a little red. I think I am stretching skin. Hopefully in a week I feel it in the ligs. Going to get some vitamin E etc to stop any stretch marks. No bruising or discoloration yet. All is good.
 
Yesterdat I did 15 min @ 7.5 lbs twice. Today I did 15 min @ 7.5 lbs, 7.5 min @ 10lbs, 5 min @ 10lbs. Time for me to go buy new clamp so I can ADH rest of night.

I am going to try pyramid hanging tomorrow. Start low slowly decreasing time, and increasing weight, til at max weight, then decrease weight and increase time back to starting weight.

I am going to try this tomorrow.
15min @ 7.5 loosen
10min @ 10 stretch
5min @ 12.5 intense stretch
10min @ 10 keep intensity
15min @ 7.5 guessing will start weak and increase in maximum intensity equalling the 5min @ 12.5 hang by the end.

Then I am going to ADH.

BTW, I was around 8.25" BPFS now I am almost 8.5" I think this is slowly over the month going to increase into some gains maybe .25". I think this is the very early newbie hanger gains. I think rest of month will solidify 1/4" flaccid gain into erect gain putting me just under or maybe at 8.25". Also if I keep this up I can only dream of 8.5" but hell .25" gain is awesome itself. Then I can finally nail almost all my BP lengths at least 8".
 
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Today, 10/1, I did
15min @ 7.5
10min @ 10
5min @ 12
10min @ 10
15min @ 7.5

some stretches inbetween sets. Didnt ADH. Tomorrow I will have time, so I am going to change things up and get it all in.

I plan to run in the morning, but after shower and all around like 8:30am ish, do
Random manual stretches, nothing solidly laid out or done. Of course do three-legged stretches to pop left lig, which is tight.
10min @ 10
7.5min @ 10
5min @ 12.5
7.5min @ 10
10min @ 10

Follow this with ADH in 2 hour sets unclamping/unwrapping end to get circulation for a few minutes then going back at it.

At night/afternoon tomorrow I will do 7.min @ 12.5, twice with 5-10 minute break in between sets, then ADH if I got time.

So far so good. I realized when I hang my dick sorta goes to left, maybe because my curve, but I noticed that through testing stressing each lig with different weights/angles, my left lig is much "tighter" than my right, or my right is more conditioned. I can get my left lig to pop, when I do three-legged stretches and pull down right. If I weight twice as long to stretch for pulling back and up sorta BTC pull with hands, I can pop that top lig. Never the right lig though. Maybe once left lig catches up on length/stiffness whatever I can stress them equally and all will be well.

Measuring Halloween Oct 31st as planned, hoping to make some gains by then. Only been seriously hanging (ie feeling some sorta burn be it skin or ligs) for a few days and it already seems promising. I want to be 8.2-8.25" by oct 31st.
 
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