Progress thread Neckercube's Routines and Progress

Thank you, you made a lot of good points. I will consider getting the LM3 soon and really wrap correctly. Do you recommend I stick with any particular routine if I could do one a day?

Another aspect I think I overlooked. In my first and second phases, I used an electric blanket to warm up and warm down. Reading through some other progress threads, I realize this may me a contributing factor in my lack of success to get permanent gains. All of my length gains involved warmth. I can consider MOS-RED or Ultrasound instead as heating tools. Whatever I choose, I need to consider when and how I use them to best support my gains.

I am not sure yet how I can overcome the struggle with bathmate to continue doing 5x5x3. Hopefully the LM will change my curvature. The only pumps I know that can be customized to be curved are air pumps. If temporary gains really are indicative, I was on the precipe of getting great results before I failed to max out every day.
 
neckercube said:
Thank you, you made a lot of good points. I will consider getting the LM3 soon and really wrap correctly. Do you recommend I stick with any particular routine if I could do one a day?
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Your welcome. I recommend you stick with 2-3 times (20 min per time) per day of stretching with LENGTHMASTER 3. I'm doing right now, 3 days on and 1 day rest. That works for me. To do everything in one session will be to hard on your penis.

MOS-RED is really good. After you use it on your penis for 15 minutes it will hang more. The decrease in healing time is insane. I couldn't do the intensity I'm doing without MOS-RED. I'm using a car interior heater for my warmups and MOS-RED for warm down. To keep your tissue warm and pliable is really important for fast gains.

Why not get the MityVac instead, you can both pump with air and water with it.
The LENGTHMASTER 3 have not changed my curvature. But you can sttetch in a way to counteract your curvature. If you have a banana bend to your penis you should not change that.

Here are some video threads about the exercises you can do:

🔗 All Length Master Exercises Videos by hugh-girth.

🔗 LengthMaster Videos by Lightning.

🔗 SIM's videos and instructions by squirt_inducer_man.

Kind regards.
 
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Awesome. Yes, it's a natural banana-like curve. I don't want to get rid of it, rather I want it to not get in the way.

What are your thoughts on silisleeve or durasleeve for SRT, or even in wrapping before using LM? Is ACE wrap still what people prefer in both? Because I dread that stuff, even the more comfortable brands. It'd be great to just roll on a silisleeve after a workout if that is good enough to heal in an elongated state. But for the LM i just need it to have a comfortable grip to pull as hard as possible without it slipping the way my wrapping did before.

Once I have in mind how I will wrap and prevent turtling, I will figure out my warmups and get a LM. Perhaps I should go for length first and get a hardcore girth routine after that.
 
neckercube said:
Awesome. Yes, it's a natural banana-like curve. I don't want to get rid of it, rather I want it to not get in the way.

What are your thoughts on silisleeve or durasleeve for SRT, or even in wrapping before using LM? Is ACE wrap still what people prefer in both? Because I dread that stuff, even the more comfortable brands. It'd be great to just roll on a silisleeve after a workout if that is good enough to heal in an elongated state. But for the LM i just need it to have a comfortable grip to pull as hard as possible without it slipping the way my wrapping did before.

Once I have in mind how I will wrap and prevent turtling, I will figure out my warmups and get a LM. Perhaps I should go for length first and get a hardcore girth routine after that.
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Here is how I'm doing it all. You can either use a penis elongation wrap, ADS or sleeve for elongation. My wrapping technique is in the thread I posted a link to before. The link below in this text.
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🔗 SIM's videos and instructions by squirt_inducer_man.
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You need to scroll down a bit to find it.
Length first and then girth is a good approach.
 
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squirt_inducer_man said:
Here is how I'm doing it all. You can either use a penis elongation wrap, ADS or sleeve for elongation. My wrapping technique is in the thread I posted a link to before. The link below in this text.


You need to scroll down a bit to find it.
Length first and then girth is a good approach.
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Always length first as stretching after girth makes it impossible
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
Do you use the comfort insert, in your Bathmate pump?
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Yes I did. I was able to avoid testicles getting in the way and other discomforts. But the issue is that edema got so intense about halfway through the set that the glans would press up against the front of the pump's wall, and the pressure would be unbearable. When I was reading about the sleeves for SRT, I did see that there are capped sleeves that are described to prevent edema when using a pump. If that works, then I should be able to expand more evenly and avoid the donut that was disrupting my expansion to the end of the tube.

I may consider getting such a capped sleeve when I start working on girth. I do have to get a Bathmate again, I will likely go with Xtreme9 or Xtreme11 depending on how I do with my exercises in the next 6+ months.
 
neckercube said:
Yes I did. I was able to avoid testicles getting in the way and other discomforts. But the issue is that edema got so intense about halfway through the set that the glans would press up against the front of the pump's wall, and the pressure would be unbearable. When I was reading about the sleeves for SRT, I did see that there are capped sleeves that are described to prevent edema when using a pump. If that works, then I should be able to expand more evenly and avoid the donut that was disrupting my expansion to the end of the tube.

I may consider getting such a capped sleeve when I start working on girth. I do have to get a Bathmate again, I will likely go with Xtreme9 or Xtreme11 depending on how I do with my exercises in the next 6+ months.
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I used a small strip of bandage winded around the base of my penis. This worked to prevent the mushroom shape, and my penis expanded more evenly. I could not use the comfort insert since I expand to much in girth when pumping.

You could probably cut up a really small sleeve to have at your base when pumping.

Do you mean that your pump was to short?
 
The bandage or part of a sleeve might help. But no, I would be about an inch away from hitting the the top when I used to use bathmate. The biggest temporary length I had in the chamber was just over 8.0", but it started becoming a problem when I was hitting 8.0" where the top begins to taper into the "room for growth" area that the size guide chart shows. That is when all the discomfort occurred because my glans and donut were so swollen it would all press hard against one side. I don't think that it was too short, I couldn't reach the top. If I could have finished my sets and continued another month or so I might have done a lot better.

How is the Vacu Vin mod? I've heard of it but never tried it. I would think that the Xtreme9's pump attachment provides some really strong suction already, how is that mod in comparison and which bathmates can you use it with? Do you think it'd make a difference?
 
neckercube said:
The bandage or part of a sleeve might help. But no, I would be about an inch away from hitting the the top when I used to use bathmate. The biggest temporary length I had in the chamber was just over 8.0", but it started becoming a problem when I was hitting 8.0" where the top begins to taper into the "room for growth" area that the size guide chart shows. That is when all the discomfort occurred because my glans and donut were so swollen it would all press hard against one side. I don't think that it was too short, I couldn't reach the top. If I could have finished my sets and continued another month or so I might have done a lot better.

How is the Vacu Vin mod? I've heard of it but never tried it. I would think that the Xtreme9's pump attachment provides some really strong suction already, how is that mod in comparison and which bathmates can you use it with? Do you think it'd make a difference?
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Okey I understand. I think the HydroXtreme 9 would be a perfect fit for you since you are going for 8" BPEL.

You use this VaccuVin mod for the hydromax pumps. That is, for the version of the Bathmate pump without an external hand pump (it's a cheaper pump). Indeed you get a lot of vaccum/suction with the hand pump on the HydroXtreme models.

The mod is similar to the external pump on the HydroXtreme pumps. Both provide with more then enough suction/vaccum for growth. It's good if you don't want to buy another pump, and you are stuck with a hydromax model. Then you can implement the VaccuVin mod.

Here is an example of the mod:
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You just use a pvc tube over the Bathmate pump, and use the VaccuVin pump to increase the vaccum. You don't need to use the VaccuVin cork in this mod or modify the orginal pump. You just put this tubing over the valve, and the VaccuVin pump in the other end of the pvc tubing. Preferably you want a tubing that's not to soft.

You can do as in these pictures above or you can fixate the tube over the Bathmate pump with tape, and then remove the VaccuVin pump from the tube when you need to release the pressure . You can have the diameter of the tube so that it goes in and fit snug inside the VaccuVin pump. You stretch the other end of the tubing over the Bathmate pump, by heating it.
You release the pressure by sticking in your finger in the tubing by compressing the spring.

This mod makes a big difference for the hydromax models of Bathmate pumps. Without it, you are limited to the vaccum you can create with the rubber bellow (the gator 🐊).
 
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neckercube said:
The bandage or part of a sleeve might help. But no, I would be about an inch away from hitting the the top when I used to use bathmate. The biggest temporary length I had in the chamber was just over 8.0", but it started becoming a problem when I was hitting 8.0" where the top begins to taper into the "room for growth" area that the size guide chart shows. That is when all the discomfort occurred because my glans and donut were so swollen it would all press hard against one side. I don't think that it was too short, I couldn't reach the top. If I could have finished my sets and continued another month or so I might have done a lot better.

How is the Vacu Vin mod? I've heard of it but never tried it. I would think that the Xtreme9's pump attachment provides some really strong suction already, how is that mod in comparison and which bathmates can you use it with? Do you think it'd make a difference?
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The Vacu Vin mod can be used with the regular bathmates not the xtreme. The xtreme bathmates all have a hand pump. Most of the reviews I've seen about the vacu vin mod was very positive. It provides a lot of pressure.

But I will prefer the xtreme9 or mityvac 2.5 cylinder.
 
huge-girth said:
The Vacu Vin mod can be used with the regular bathmates not the xtreme. The xtreme bathmates all have a hand pump. Most of the reviews I've seen about the vacu vin mod was very positive. It provides a lot of pressure.

But I will prefer the xtreme9 or mityvac 2.5 cylinder.
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I always wondered the differences in effectiveness between air pumping and water pumping. One thing about water is that it conducts heat far better than air. But if I understand physics at all, I would think water has more of a mechanical effect on the skin, but air at the same pressure can be a stronger vasodilator because it affects gases in the blood near the skin. Maybe I am thinking too hard. But I do recall trying to air pump before and my skin would be more red after. However I never did an air pump routine or can remember people who did air only. All I know for now is water pumping works.
 
neckercube said:
I always wondered the differences in effectiveness between air pumping and water pumping. One thing about water is that it conducts heat far better than air. But if I understand physics at all, I would think water has more of a mechanical effect on the skin, but air at the same pressure can be a stronger vasodilator because it affects gases in the blood near the skin. Maybe I am thinking too hard. But I do recall trying to air pump before and my skin would be more red after. However I never did an air pump routine or can remember people who did air only. All I know for now is water pumping works.
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Are you getting a Bathmate HydroXtreme? or MityVac pump system? You can pump with water with the MityVac pump system as well.

There is lifetime warranty if you buy Bathmate or MityVac from MOS Shop.
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
Are you getting a Bathmate HydroXtreme? or MityVac pump system? You can pump with water with the MityVac pump system as well.

There is lifetime warranty if you buy Bathmate or MityVac from MOS Shop.
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I need to look in my closet to see if I still have my hydroxtreme, I've moved twice since I got it. I love hydroxtreme. I do kind of miss how cool Penomet looked, it was huge and easy to see through. I never could handle the hulk gaiter though.
 
neckercube said:
I always wondered the differences in effectiveness between air pumping and water pumping. One thing about water is that it conducts heat far better than air. But if I understand physics at all, I would think water has more of a mechanical effect on the skin, but air at the same pressure can be a stronger vasodilator because it affects gases in the blood near the skin. Maybe I am thinking too hard. But I do recall trying to air pump before and my skin would be more red after. However I never did an air pump routine or can remember people who did air only. All I know for now is water pumping works.
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Water pumping and dry pumping, both works. I'm pumping dry and it is working perfectly for me. I haven't measured but I can see a slight difference in my penis girth.

@MosMaster has made impressive girth gains from dry pumping.
 
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