dibocarmona;370313 said:
So you recommend to use the HDSS straight out ? what are your thoughts on straight up like against the belly?
I don't like it because I think the base presses against the base of the dorsal nerve and some veins I have right there. But if that doesn't bother you it's a great way to stretch the ligs with the base pressing right there against your penis' base.

dibocarmona;370313 said:
Can you explain what you mean by burping the air out? This is what I do... I push my penis head to the top of the dome and cover the hole with fun-tak putty then I roll the silicone sleeve down along my shaft ... when I increase the tension and stretch out more the penis head moves away from the top of the dome .
Before I put on the base and rods, I grab the sleeved penis in one hand and hold the dome in the other hand (I keep a finger right at the plug). I then force the penis shaft into the dome. This causes the plug to "pop" and let out some air. Before I release my push, I re-seat the plug. I do this a couple of times to be sure I've got out as much air as possible.

dibocarmona;370313 said:
where can I find replacement springs? Do I email SS or can I pick them up at an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]Ace[/words] or Home Depot?
Actually I think any springs will do as long as you know what the tension is. Even if you don't, you can tell when you're being pulled.

dibocarmona;370313 said:
I looked on the SS site and couldn't find videos showing proper application of the HDSS .. can you point me to where I can view these vids?
The videos were there when I looked but it's been a long time. I also got a lot email help from them in my early days.
 
PainsForGains;370346 said:
moregains
I think the reason they don't boast success that any device will work if you use it long enough. Their claim is that their stuff is comfortable enough to use and that's what attracted me to them. I have a lot of Penis Enlargement stuff that qualifies as torture.

PainsForGains;370346 said:
1. To be clear: IF I log in, say 4 hours at 4 lbs, are those 4 lbs hours good enough to cause the "0.001th of an inch for every hour" ERECT LENGTH growth? If THIS IS THE CASE, then I could possibly leave it on when sleeping, because at 4 pounds I can go forever.
Four lbs is enough to do the job. There's enough evidence out there that even those noose devices at 3 lbs max can do the job. The problem is they hurt like a bitch.

PainsForGains;370346 said:
2. I don't understand what you mean by the "I've always worried about lengthening the suspensatory lig": you gained via between SD and SO, PLUS you use the Bib going either SD or BTC! You ARE fully lengthening the suspensatory lig!
I don't hang SD or BTC anymore and haven't for a long time. I hang strictly SO, or as I prefer to say: SOL and SOR (left and right). I became concerned about lig stretch when I noticed, while banging this chick from behind that my base was moving around. I can't say it never happened before, but it looked like a new issue. I started to think: I stretch the ligs it changes the anchoring. If it will allow more to come out, why wouldn't it also allow it to press back in? I began to assume the suspensory lig's purpose was to provide a base for jamming the penis into wet pussy. I then decided I didn't want to learn first hand if this was a bad idea.

PainsForGains;370346 said:
3. Whenever you see someone with a huge penis but the penis doesn't go past their belly button, is that a sign that they are weight hangers?
Could be, but DLD points out the belly button can be a bad gauge.
 
MoreGains123;370395 said:
I don't hang SD or BTC anymore and haven't for a long time. I hang strictly SO, or as I prefer to say: SOL and SOR (left and right). I became concerned about lig stretch when I noticed, while banging this chick from behind that my base was moving around. I can't say it never happened before, but it looked like a new issue. I started to think: I stretch the ligs it changes the anchoring. If it will allow more to come out, why wouldn't it also allow it to press back in? I began to assume the suspensory lig's purpose was to provide a base for jamming the penis into wet pussy. I then decided I didn't want to learn first hand if this was a bad idea.

moregains,

I am 6.5" EL and 6" EG. I want to get to 9" BPenis EnlargementL and 7" EG; when I get a full hard on, THAT'S what I want to see, to feel. Based on your calculations, if I wear the device at 4 lbs for 2,000 hours, I'll get there. Great!

1. So is between SD and SO NOT a good idea (I don't want to have what might have happened with you to happen to me)? I see lots of adult entertainment stars who have NO anchoring, and that's probably because their ligs don't work, but I've never seen a penis going back inside when watching these guys' movies.
2. Have you EVER heard of ANYONE complaining about their penis going back inside their body when erect, or is this an assumption of yours? BIGGER and all hangers, plus the guy at SS, has never brought this up as a consequence.
3. What, in your opinion then, is the ratio of hours xs growth for doing JUST SO?
 
PainsForGains;370398 said:
I am 6.5" EL and 6" EG. I want to get to 9" BPenis EnlargementL and 7" EG; when I get a full hard on, THAT'S what I want to see, to feel. Based on your calculations, if I wear the device at 4 lbs for 2,000 hours, I'll get there. Great!
Personally I think that's too much dick for 90% of the girls you'll meet.

PainsForGains;370398 said:
1. So is between SD and SO NOT a good idea (I don't want to have what might have happened with you to happen to me)? I see lots of adult entertainment stars who have NO anchoring, and that's probably because their ligs don't work, but I've never seen a penis going back inside when watching these guys' movies.
It's not that it was going back inside the body as much as it allows it to move around a bit. Afterall if the suspensory lig has been made longer it therefore will allow more movement: forward, back and sideways. I'm not talking inches so I don't know that you'd necessarily see it on someone else.

PainsForGains;370398 said:
2. Have you EVER heard of ANYONE complaining about their penis going back inside their body when erect, or is this an assumption of yours? BIGGER and all hangers, plus the guy at SS, has never brought this up as a consequence.
Never heard anyone talk about it. If you look at the anatomy it makes sense. Also, lig stretching is an early-gainer thing. You should be working on tunica stretching as your career progresses. It's commonly believed that lig gains can be exhausted pretty easily whereas tunica gains are "infinite".

PainsForGains;370398 said:
3. What, in your opinion then, is the ratio of hours xs growth for doing JUST SO?
My experience with SO (L and R) is 0.001" per hour. The key is to not go overboard and create issues such as blistering, discoloration and injury. The gains will come: you have to be patient and diligent. The funny thing about pulling really hard is that when you count your down time for issues, you're no farther along than the guy at 4 lbs who had no down time. Sort of the Tortoise and Hare story I suppose.
 
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i cant wait to get one of these when i have the cash. i will also try the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for a few hours a day. i just hope its comftorable and actually works for me
 
ownd;370416 said:
i cant wait to get one of these when i have the cash. i will also try the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for a few hours a day. i just hope its comftorable and actually works for me
Anything will work if you are patient and consistent. Why not get on a manual stretching routine right now?
 
MoreGains123;370407 said:
Personally I think that's too much dick for 90% of the girls you'll meet.


It's not that it was going back inside the body as much as it allows it to move around a bit. Afterall if the suspensory lig has been made longer it therefore will allow more movement: forward, back and sideways. I'm not talking inches so I don't know that you'd necessarily see it on someone else.


Never heard anyone talk about it. If you look at the anatomy it makes sense. Also, lig stretching is an early-gainer thing. You should be working on tunica stretching as your career progresses. It's commonly believed that lig gains can be exhausted pretty easily whereas tunica gains are "infinite".


My experience with SO (L and R) is 0.001" per hour. The key is to not go overboard and create issues such as blistering, discoloration and injury. The gains will come: you have to be patient and diligent. The funny thing about pulling really hard is that when you count your down time for issues, you're no farther along than the guy at 4 lbs who had no down time. Sort of the Tortoise and Hare story I suppose.

1. Yes, 9 x 7 is too much for about 90% of the women I will meet. I have many many reasons (some of which are financial) that are prompting me to want to get so big. I don't know what else to say about this.

2. Your expereince with SO (L and R) HAS to be only with the Bib Hanger, because the HDSS doesn't go L or R. AND you have said that tunica gains take longer than lig gains. Are you saying then that between SO and SD has a FASTER size to hours ratio than SO? Now I'm really confused.

3. If your dick is HUGE and the base moves around from side to side, if this is a real occurrence , then I can only assume that this happens with most Penis Enlargement (Pumping, Manual Stretching, Hanging), because most Penis Enlargement, including DLD's [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words], stretches out the suspensatory ligs. So be it, I guess.

4. Am I helping to avoid some of this "movable base" problem by HDSS stretching between SD and SO? Is the only way to avoid this to stretch SO? What if I add manual stretches (aren't I then still lengthening the suspensatory ligs and will have this 'moveable base' issue)?

GOD I wish I could talk to you or the guy at SS on the phone!
 
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You can rotate the base 90 degrees to do L and R if you want. You just have to put your glans in the dome at 90 degrees too.

I don't have any experience with any angle being necessarily faster than another, but guys talk about lig stretching (BTC) producing faster gains than any other angle. They are exhaustable gains and are usually recommended in the beginning to wet your appetite for more. I don't like the skin stretching and inconvenience of BTC and I'm not in a hurry to gain.

I think as with any part of the body, speed of change matters most. Skin stretch marks are a result of fast skin growth. I imagine fast lig stretching to yield looser, weaker ligaments than slow steady lig stretching.
 
This should be the last post of mine on this subject. Or maybe not. I feel like it probably is. I have been stretching and "doing my part"; just want to have some clarification on some things, moregains123.

1. Tell me the specifics (as specific as you can get) on the negatives as you see them of using the HDSS ONLY SD. What are the positives?

2. If I start my HDSS journey doing just SD (6 to 4 lbs for many hours like before), and I make these easy gains (erect gains?), gains which are just more of my penis being exposed (and everyone seems to have negative opinions of these kinds of gains, which I don't get), then when I max my lig gains, can't I then just use the HDSS SO and focus solely on the tunica? If not, why not?

3. Isn't SD the ONLY direction that most of these noose stretchers go (beneath your pants; just like the MEDIUM SS)? And BIGGER says that for people with High LOT'S, like me, BTC (and since I can't do BTC with HDSS, then it's SD) is critical for maximum erect length growth ("Exhaust your ligaments and THEN go for the Tunica").

Here's my point:

IF!

- When stretching SD, I get the faster ERECT length gains
- AFTER stretching SD and MAXING my ERECT LENGTH GAINS VIA SUSPenis EnlargementNSATORY LIGS (which hangers and other stretchers and ALL BEGINNER/MANY OTHER MANUAL STRETCHES focus on), I can then stretch SO and focus SOLELY on the tunica, thereby getting even MORE ERECT LENGTH GAINS

Then why not? Why wait? Why go the route of SO when I can get a bigger dick sooner going SD? A lower exit point? Extra skin?

Thank you moregains123 for helping us all out with your expert answering of these questions. Please answer the numbered questions and then make a general response to the "IF" question: it will help hundreds of people who want to use this device!

Please remember that I am looking for ERECT LENGTH and slight ERECT GIRTH gains. I know that my flaccid will greatly increase no matter what and I don't care about flaccid.
 
PainsForGains;370506 said:
1. Tell me the specifics (as specific as you can get) on the negatives as you see them of using the HDSS ONLY SD. What are the positives?
I don't see any negatives other than the usual nuisances associated with strapping anything to your dick. The positives as I see them are that the device is comfortable and powerful.

PainsForGains;370506 said:
2. If I start my HDSS journey doing just SD (6 to 4 lbs for many hours like before), and I make these easy gains (erect gains?), gains which are just more of my penis being exposed (and everyone seems to have negative opinions of these kinds of gains, which I don't get), then when I max my lig gains, can't I then just use the HDSS SO and focus solely on the tunica? If not, why not?
You can. Many guys just don't want the lower exit point. But many guys don't mind, it's up to you.

PainsForGains;370506 said:
3. Isn't SD the ONLY direction that most of these noose stretchers go (beneath your pants; just like the MEDIUM SS)? And BIGGER says that for people with High LOT'S, like me, BTC (and since I can't do BTC with HDSS, then it's SD) is critical for maximum erect length growth ("Exhaust your ligaments and THEN go for the Tunica").
Almost all of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]'s out there will go SU as well as SD.

PainsForGains;370506 said:
- When stretching SD, I get the faster ERECT length gains - AFTER stretching SD and MAXING my ERECT LENGTH GAINS VIA SUSPenis EnlargementNSATORY LIGS (which hangers and other stretchers and ALL BEGINNER/MANY OTHER MANUAL STRETCHES focus on), I can then stretch SO and focus SOLELY on the tunica, thereby getting even MORE ERECT LENGTH GAINS. Then why not? Why wait? Why go the route of SO when I can get a bigger dick sooner going SD? A lower exit point? Extra skin?
Feel free to go SD. As I said before it's a matter of opinion and taste. If you don't mind the lowered exit point then SD is for you. Personally I'm in no hurry and prefer tunica growth at this point. I did gain with SD in my early days. It works fastest for measurable gains.
 
It is peeps like moregains that makes this forum so amazing. Thanks for your patience and help :)

What about straight up? Laying on the belly?

For the first time in a year of owning this HDSS I finally found out how to properly burp the air one and have my penis STAY touching the top of the dome for 2+ hours at a good amount of tension! THANKS MOREGAINS123
 
Straight up bothers me because I have a vein that's right on the top and I fear the base of an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] would mess with it.

I know what you mean about the nuances of the HDSS. I must've emailed them 50 times discussing things with them. I just figured their stuff looked well-designed and so different that there must've been some serious, experienced thought put in it: and I was going to figure it out. The combo of Bib and HDSS has been great for me. Of course I never forget routine jelqing and once a week clamping.
 
moregains,

1. Will my balls move down appropriately when my exit point drops? I'm serious.
2. When I max out my SD gains, will my cock point straight down when I get a full hard on? Most of these very hung adult entertainment stars have low exit points (and I know this because ALL of them don't reach past their belly button and weight hanging has been around forever) and they have to prop their dick up when hard.
3. You never once, in any of your posts (it seems), brought up clamping or jelqing. Can I make gains of 2" EL and close in on 1" of EG JUST using the HDSS, first SD and then, after maxing out my EL gains via ligs, SO?

I'm done asking questions for a while after this! You and I should be paid by Static Stretcher for our interactions!
 
PainsForGains;370603 said:
1. Will my balls move down appropriately when my exit point drops? I'm serious.
From what I've read and experienced, the whole package moves down.

PainsForGains;370603 said:
2. When I max out my SD gains, will my cock point straight down when I get a full hard on? Most of these very hung adult entertainment stars have low exit points (and I know this because ALL of them don't reach past their belly button and weight hanging has been around forever) and they have to prop their dick up when hard.
To point straight down would require some serious lig stretching perhaps too much. I think a lot of those guys point down because they're "less than enthused". A good solid hard dick should point upward: as the penis extends the lig will reach its max length and as the penis continues to expand it will cause the lig to wrap the pubic bone. This is what causes the upward angle to begin with. I suppose if the tunica reached its maximum before the lig did you could have a downward erection but that's certainly not typical.

PainsForGains;370603 said:
3. You never once, in any of your posts (it seems), brought up clamping or jelqing. Can I make gains of 2" EL and close in on 1" of EG JUST using the HDSS, first SD and then, after maxing out my EL gains via ligs, SO?
That's funny because I talk about jelqing all the time. Clamping I only do once a week just to keep the pipes clean and degunked. One inch EG is a tough question to answer, but 2" in EL is certainly possible. You will gain some girth just from all the stretching, especially at the base. Do yourself a favor and don't become anxious with the HDSS and increase tension before being ready. It can pull hard and it's tempting to over-do it.
 
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moregains,

I've been using the HDSS SD and, WOW, it hurts (in a good way)! I definitely see that it works on the ligs. Not that I measured, but I got an erection afterwards and I could swear that it was longer.

The guys at SS say you should pick "one angle and stick with it". Do you reccommend the following?

1st Hour: SD at 6lbs
2nd Hour: 6 lbs between SD and SO
3rd, 4th hour: 4 lbs between SD and SO

What say you? My instinct tells me this "works" for fast gains. Or do I just stay SD?
 
PS: One more thing! (Please answer the question above as well)

If, when wearing the device at a low weight (4lbs), I can cover the ends of the rods and put a towel over it, why can't I sleep in the device? I sleep on my side comfortably.
 
I think one angle is the ticket too. You don't want to strengthen an angle by allowing it rest. Work it for the gains.

Your routine sounds ok to me, very good actually. I only question 6 lbs for two hours: it would definetly give me at least a tiny blister. In terms of hanging: when you are hanging 6 lbs for an hour you are effectively hanging about 10 lbs for 20 minute sets with two minute breaks. (Thats how I look at it for comparison purposes only, nothing scientific about it.)

I nap with the HDSS all the time without any issues. However I nap in a lazy-boy type chair so I'm not moving around. I also wrap a heated rice sock around it before dozing off. I would recommend wrapping the threads of the rods in the tape such that it won't touch your skin. For me the lower portions of the rods' threads can pinch sometimes if I get into the wrong position. I wrapped the lower three inches of each rod in the tape to prevent this. (Cut a piece three inches long and apply it to the rod lengthwise and wrap the width of the tape around the rod.)
 
"I think one angle is the ticket too" and "Your routine sounds ok to me, very good actually": so the 6lbs SD for one hour, then the rest between SD and SO at 6lbs and 4lbs routine is good? That's two different angles. Don't worry about me and the 6lbs for 2 hours potential blister issue: I have fool-proofed my taping method.
 
Well it's two different angles but not that significant in my opinion. You're still pulling ligs between SD and SO so they aren't getting a break.
 
Hey moregains,

My schedule is killing me (work and obligatory): I need to do these stretches while sleeping. I can knock out one hour AWAKE at 6lbs and then do the rest at 4lbs, which doesn't hurt at all and is "light" for me.

Give me specific directions on what to do. I can do the one hour AWAKE SD for maximum lig damage and then either keep SD at 4lbs when sleeping or move it between SD and SO. Thanks!
 
Pains ofr gians can you share your fool proof taping method, im getting a stretcher soon and would love to not have to worry about blisters
 
MoreGains,

I first want to say that your collection of posts alone has been the single most useful resource that I've found since I discovered this whole Penis Enlargement thing. I've definitely learned a lot from DLD and others of course, but your methodical, logical, and clearly explained approach really stands out and inspired me to get an HDSS after a number of failed attempts at Penis Enlargement. So thanks for that! I'm sure there are a lot of other lurkers who haven't expressed their appreciation (you don't allow PMs).

With that said, I've got a couple of questions: when you say you use SOL/SOR, what how far left/right do you angle it? ie if straight out would be 90* and directly left 0*, what angle do you use? Also, how important would you say the Bib is to your routine? I think you said that you like the feeling of hanging, but do you think it's worthwhile for the rest of us HDSS users to get a Bib as well?
 
PainsForGains;371539 said:
I can do the one hour AWAKE SD for maximum lig damage and then either keep SD at 4lbs when sleeping or move it between SD and SO.
If I slept on my side I would put the device at SO. If I slept on my back, I'd put it at SD.
 
edwds;371550 said:
when you say you use SOL/SOR, what how far left/right do you angle it? ie if straight out would be 90* and directly left 0*, what angle do you use? Also, how important would you say the Bib is to your routine? I think you said that you like the feeling of hanging, but do you think it's worthwhile for the rest of us HDSS users to get a Bib as well?
I'm glad my posts help just as I was glad to read other guys' posts when I started.

As I practice them, SOL and SOR need only be enough such that the attachment point you're targeting is taking the brunt (left or right side). So nearly anything off-center will do, but I'm usually at about 20 degrees. You can feel the difference when only one side is fully engaged.

The Bib is top-drawer but I do get tired of the discoloration. I like the HDSS after Bib hanging and alone. As I said before, I just like the feel of hanging and have been messing around with heavy hanging. But the HDSS can really pour on the soreness and I'm sure I could go without hanging at this point because I'm always fatigued.
 
Hey moregains123,

It's been two months and I wanted to update you on my progress and also ask a few questions:

Unfortunately, I have not been able to use it every day. I average 5 days a week using it for 2-3 hours a day at 6 pounds, then 4 pounds (6lbs SD, then 4lbs between SD/SO). I know you have the whole calculation of 1 HR = .0001th of an inch (1,000 equals 1 ERECT inch), and I don't know if having days off between sessions kills this calculation, but it is what it is.

I have significant turkey neck. I MAY have made a very slight erect gain. My erections are harder and my flaccid is permanently longer.

1. Would it make more sense, given the above, for me to just do the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] daily (30 minutes) and then use the HDSS three to four days a week as a supplemental device?
2. I HAVE been able to sleep with the device on, but only at 4 pounds, and you say in this thread that IF I were to sleep on my side that I should use it SO. The guys at SS, who are not responding to my emails (I need light stretcher black rubber wraps; if you have any I'll pay handsomely for them!), say that I need to pick ONE angle and stick with it.
A. If I do long hours at 4 pounds, does that weight fit your "1,000 Hours Equals 1 Inch" theory, or do I have to have heavier weight?
B. Will using the HDSS between SD/SO when awake and SO when sleeping be a problem regarding erect gains?

THANKS!
 
PainsForGains;375479 said:
Unfortunately, I have not been able to use it every day. I average 5 days a week using it for 2-3 hours a day at 6 pounds, then 4 pounds (6lbs SD, then 4lbs between SD/SO). I know you have the whole calculation of 1 HR = .0001th of an inch (1,000 equals 1 ERECT inch), and I don't know if having days off between sessions kills this calculation, but it is what it is.
That sounds good. I recommend just keeping whatever routine you've got. Too many guys want to change something as soon as it starts to work. They fear it could be more effective. Body Builders suffer from this too. However: if it works don't fix it!

PainsForGains;375479 said:
I have significant turkey neck. I MAY have made a very slight erect gain. My erections are harder and my flaccid is permanently longer.
That's all good. For 8 weeks at 5 days per week, averaging 2.5 hours per day that's: 8 x 5 x 2.5 = 100 hours. My experience says that's about a 1/10" increase. That's a hard number to measure due to so many variants but you're showing other signs such as bigger flaccid and harder erections so I'd guess you've got another tenth.

PainsForGains;375479 said:
1. Would it make more sense, given the above, for me to just do the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words] daily (30 minutes) and then use the HDSS three to four days a week as a supplemental device?
As I said before it makes best sense to stick with something that is: 1) do-able schedule-wise 2) shows signs of working 3) isn't causing injury or pain

PainsForGains;375479 said:
2. I HAVE been able to sleep with the device on, but only at 4 pounds, and you say in this thread that IF I were to sleep on my side that I should use it SO. The guys at SS, who are not responding to my emails (I need light stretcher black rubber wraps; if you have any I'll pay handsomely for them!), say that I need to pick ONE angle and stick with it.
Picking an angle is a good idea, I'm not saying it isn't. I don't know everything there is to know. I suggested SO because the base wouldn't be pressed upward or downward on the base of your shaft.

PainsForGains;375479 said:
A. If I do long hours at 4 pounds, does that weight fit your "1,000 Hours Equals 1 Inch" theory, or do I have to have heavier weight?
Four pounds is enough to do the job.

PainsForGains;375479 said:
B. Will using the HDSS between SD/SO when awake and SO when sleeping be a problem regarding erect gains?
I don't see how, IMO this isn't enough of a variant to matter.

BTW, your questions are sometimes too specific for anyone to answer without just guessing.
 
jsut ordered mine finally today the all in one package, going to plan to use it for 3 hours everday m-f and hopefully the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] part of it 5 hours a day.
 
ownd;375653 said:
jsut ordered mine finally today the all in one package, going to plan to use it for 3 hours everday m-f and hopefully the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] part of it 5 hours a day.
The best thing you can do is take it easy and learn how to put it on and take off. Once you have that down you can make some progress with it. My experience with the Bib, HDSS and others was if I didn't learn it first I got too frustrated with it. Probably took me a couple of months to learn the Bib and a couple of weeks for the static stretcher.
 
Hey Moregains,

How do you prevent the skin from getting pinched between the plastic headpiece and the silicone, I've always struggled with that? It seems to get sucked in as soon as I pull on it. Thanks.

Dford
 
dickfordays;375676 said:
How do you prevent the skin from getting pinched between the plastic headpiece and the silicone, I've always struggled with that? It seems to get sucked in as soon as I pull on it.
I got that in the beginning but I don't know why I don't get it anymore. I do watch for it though before applying tension.

Before I put the dome/sleeve on I apply a very thin coat of vaseline in the area where the sleeve will be touching my skin. Perhaps that's what did it, I don't know because I never put it on anymore without doing that. And I'm talking a very light amount but it's just enough to allow the skin to slide a little instead of stick to the sleeve and I think it helps with the seal.
 
Does any body else have an issue with the base breaking? The base on my original unit broke several time and I put it back together with super glue. I've since received a free replacement from them and that broke within the first two hours! Is it just me? I'm wearing it in the downward position with the single large spring. I know I'm not doing anything it's not designed to handle.
 
tye9000;375724 said:
Does any body else have an issue with the base breaking? The base on my original unit broke several time and I put it back together with super glue. I've since received a free replacement from them and that broke within the first two hours! Is it just me? I'm wearing it in the downward position with the single large spring. I know I'm not doing anything it's not designed to handle.

Where on the base is it breaking?

moregains: You state that a lot of the questions I ask can't be answered with any certainity, that they are questions someone can only answer with a guess. An educated guess is far and away better than having NO information. There are no Before And After pics or verifiable data to show that the product works. I have looked through many forums and you are BY FAR the most knowledgable about the product. I take many many hours out of my week to strap this thing on, having only anecdotal evidence to spur me on. It costs $250 to get everything. The videos online have no sound and are poor instructionals. Anyone that truly wants to dedicate themselves to using the product wants to do it right and DOESN'T WANT TO WASTE THEIR TIME, risking injury, embarrassment. You yourself could be working for SS. Hell, so could I!

My point is this: I ask so many questions because THIS IS MY DICK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT! If SS had before and after videos (I can't believe they don't), if others who used it did, and if there was some way (there are plenty) of having a more complete instructional gateway into using the product, then I wouldn't have to ask a single question.

I appreciate, as always, your input and widsom. Thanks again. I'm not being a dick here; I'm just frustrated that they aren't getting back to me (I use the Light Stretcher regularly and need more wraps) and am discouraged overall. I'm sure if you stand back and look at this from my vantage point you would sympathize.

Thanks again!
 
Mainly the holes where the rods plug in breaks every 3-6 hours or so. The circular base has also snapped completely in half twice. If no one else is having this issue that is very suprising.

Regarding your other frustations I understand where your coming from. This is a nice device but needs to be supported a little better. I've used a fast size stretcher and this gives as good a stretch or better and is more comfortable. Lots of guys indicate the fast size has worked for them. This device is the same principle so I'd feel confident this will work in the same manner.
 
tye9000;375747 said:
Mainly the holes where the rods plug in breaks every 3-6 hours or so. The circular base has also snapped completely in half twice. If no one else is having this issue that is very suprising.

Regarding your other frustations I understand where your coming from. This is a nice device but needs to be supported a little better. I've used a fast size stretcher and this gives as good a stretch or better and is more comfortable. Lots of guys indicate the fast size has worked for them. This device is the same principle so I'd feel confident this will work in the same manner.

Did you make erect gains using the Fast Size?

That happened once with the holes in the base; however, I remember coming back to it and putting the rods back in and they worked again. I think if you put too much pressure on them, the rods slip out to the sides.
 
PainsForGains;375734 said:
I'm sure if you stand back and look at this from my vantage point you would sympathize.
Not really. Making your dick bigger is pretty simple. Any amount of tension will do the job given the right amount of time. One pound for 24/7/365 will yield results. Forty pounds for 15 mins a day will yield results. The trick is to use the most weight you can within a comfort zone for as long a time period as you can. I suggested 4 pounds. You're asking: what about 6? what about 5? what if 6 for an hour and 5 for .... and then there's the few weeks of a routine and wondering how it should be changed... and so on.

It comes down to this: put a device on, put in the time, forget about it. The growth will come. If you're lucky enough to be able to put in serious hours it'll come sooner. If not, it'll come later. It's really no more complicated than that. Advice beyond that is purely guess work.
 
I broke a base a long time ago and they replaced it. I found that the high tension coupled with the locking pins along with moving around caused problems. So if I'm going to move around I either reduce the tension or remove the locking pins.
 
I may have gained a little with the fast size but way too uncomfortable. I threw it away.

The loops that hold the rods in place on the base are what constantly break. I'm shocked I'm the only one getting this. I bought mine may two months ago..may some new manufacturing issue?
 
MoreGains123;375787 said:
Not really. Making your dick bigger is pretty simple. Any amount of tension will do the job given the right amount of time. One pound for 24/7/365 will yield results. Forty pounds for 15 mins a day will yield results. The trick is to use the most weight you can within a comfort zone for as long a time period as you can. I suggested 4 pounds. You're asking: what about 6? what about 5? what if 6 for an hour and 5 for .... and then there's the few weeks of a routine and wondering how it should be changed... and so on.

It comes down to this: put a device on, put in the time, forget about it. The growth will come. If you're lucky enough to be able to put in serious hours it'll come sooner. If not, it'll come later. It's really no more complicated than that. Advice beyond that is purely guess work.

There's no documented proof of this via video before and after that I have found, so NO, it ISN'T "pretty simple". Using these devices is "all faith". Sorry, but it's true. This is not to say that I don't have faith :-) And the growth that I have experienced so far is just stretched skin. Anyone can say "you'll grow" or "the growth will come" and simply be selectively honest (meaning flaccid gains at best). I took some pics yesterday of my erect penis with a ruler and (anybody?) need to find a site that I can post videos to of my starting measurements. I guarantee you that if I make legitimate erect gains, the Static Stretcher people will answer my emails then and want to be part of my advertising that THEIR product made it all happen.

I believe you are telling the truth, bro. We have had a lot of exchanges on here and they have all been for my benefit but also for the benefit of ALL that use these kinds of stretchers. We have manifested help together. I appreciate you and your feedback! You are a wonderful man!

Since they aren't getting back to me, any way I can make those light black rubber static wraps myself? Any sort of alternate version I can find anywhere? And what about the HDSS plugs? How do I get to replace those?
 
MoreGains123;375704 said:
I got that in the beginning but I don't know why I don't get it anymore. I do watch for it though before applying tension.

Before I put the dome/sleeve on I apply a very thin coat of vaseline in the area where the sleeve will be touching my skin. Perhaps that's what did it, I don't know because I never put it on anymore without doing that. And I'm talking a very light amount but it's just enough to allow the skin to slide a little instead of stick to the sleeve and I think it helps with the seal.


I'll give that a shot next time I use mine, thanks buddy.

Dford
 
Since a short break of giving up I tried the press-vac and static vac again. I seem to run into the same problem over and over again! I'm suprised no one else seems to have this many problems with it.

No matter how hard I try to pull excess skin back before applying either of the to it seems like I get the effect of lose skin and the press-vac simply slides off, while the static vac sort creates air space inside the dome and eventually slides of as well.

Do you have any suggestions to solve this or should I just keep on trying? Because I'm close to giving up, but at the same time I won't let myself!
 
PainsForGains;375803 said:
There's no documented proof of this via video before and after that I have found, so NO, it ISN'T "pretty simple". Using these devices is "all faith". Sorry, but it's true.
I don't want to be a contrarian here, but this just isn't a fact. The issue here is that you've not been at this for four years as some of have. We all went through the "science" and the "smartest tactics" and so forth. We all tried to be highly efficient and learn all there was to know.

But after a couple of years and some gains here and there, the guys who stick with it realize it is simple. How would you go about doing the splits? You would stretch a little more every day: you would introduce unrelenting stress and the tissue will respond by stretching to relieve the stress. There's nothing more complicated about it than that. Eventually after some months, you would be able to do the splits. If you stopped you would begin to lose some of that flexibility. In comparison to the penis the legs have the advantage of somewhat cooperative skeletal muscle and a skeletal structure which can be used to leverage against these soft tissues.

Of course the penis doesn't have those benefits, but soft tissue is pretty much the same the body over. Introduce some unrelenting stress and it will seek to relieve it. Therefore all that remains for penis gains is to find a routine that you can stick to and a device(s) that you are comfortable with so you can stick to your routine. Believe me: it's no more complicated than that. Don't stress your mind over it.
 
John McCock: I can't help you with being uncut and using any device. I know that uncut guys do have more troubles regardless of whether it's a static wrap or a noose or a strap or a bib hanger. Isn't there some way to hold skin back while putting a device on?
 
MoreGains123;376009 said:
I don't want to be a contrarian here, but this just isn't a fact. The issue here is that you've not been at this for four years as some of have. We all went through the "science" and the "smartest tactics" and so forth. We all tried to be highly efficient and learn all there was to know.

But after a couple of years and some gains here and there, the guys who stick with it realize it is simple. How would you go about doing the splits? You would stretch a little more every day: you would introduce unrelenting stress and the tissue will respond by stretching to relieve the stress. There's nothing more complicated about it than that. Eventually after some months, you would be able to do the splits. If you stopped you would begin to lose some of that flexibility. In comparison to the penis the legs have the advantage of somewhat cooperative skeletal muscle and a skeletal structure which can be used to leverage against these soft tissues.

Of course the penis doesn't have those benefits, but soft tissue is pretty much the same the body over. Introduce some unrelenting stress and it will seek to relieve it. Therefore all that remains for penis gains is to find a routine that you can stick to and a device(s) that you are comfortable with so you can stick to your routine. Believe me: it's no more complicated than that. Don't stress your mind over it.

You only address the phenomenon of time = gains. I ALSO brought up that there's no documented proof via video that the device causes permanent erect length gains. You didn't address this. That's all I was saying. If the Static Stretcher people were smart, they would have this kind of evidence and their sales would shoot through the roof. I've already filmed my BEFORE measurements. But since they aren't responding to any of my emails anymore (yet posting on the SS Forum) I guess when the gains are made I just won't post them on a blog and attribute the gains to their product, which I was going to do for them because they were so helpful in the beginning. And these emails are about giving them more business, not asking for advice! Crazy.
 
my stretcher arrived today holy shit there are a lot of parts and its complicated im not a handy person but after watching all the videos i have a better idea of how to use it all. Question i have with the heavy duty is im going to assume that most people use the springs instead of just manually putting the pressure with the bolts, so there are 3 sets of springs small, and 2 the same size but one set is more coiled up. How do i know what is 4 pounds, 5 pounds etc and etc?? no way of telling. Also when i put the spring between the bushing and the bolt what then do i just adjust the bolt tigther and let the spring apply its own tension?
 
PainsForGains;376258 said:
You only address the phenomenon of time = gains. I ALSO brought up that there's no documented proof via video that the device causes permanent erect length gains. You didn't address this. That's all I was saying.
Dude, time does equal gains. They all produce permanent erect gains. Stretching your penis over time creates gains. You could get this effect with a 10 thousand dollar space-age futuristic stretch-a-matic or an old rock tied to your dick.

It doesn't matter what you use. The issue is which one can you put the time in with? I liked the SS because I found it comfortable.
 
ownd;376333 said:
How do i know what is 4 pounds, 5 pounds etc and etc?? no way of telling. Also when i put the spring between the bushing and the bolt what then do i just adjust the bolt tigther and let the spring apply its own tension?
I recommend not using springs at first. Get used to putting it on and taking it off and wearing it first. I always used the thicker longer springs (the 5 pounders) and just compressed them half-way or so.
 
ok i wont use them at first as per your suggestion! what poundage are the tiny ones, the less compressed longer ones, and then the thicker ones.

And how do i know how far to compress each spring, this is the only issue im having.

thanks for the help im off for my first usage right now and practicing to put it on i hope i have no issues!
 
OK so this thing is pretty cool BUT im having some problems first

is the rubber stopper for the air, i dont know if im using the right thing is it the tiny black peace of rubber? its kinda small i would have expected it to fit the whole area better. When i insert my glans wrapped into the dome and i push them in, i then aply the small stopper , hold and pull then when i release the stupid little rubber things will either stick to my finger OR if i pull a lil harder it just loses pressure, i can actually hear the air escape from the vacuum. I managed to get 30 mins in but i think the strap is what was holding me in, because my glans were not at the edge of the dome at all but half way down.

Any suggestions on this moregians?
 
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