Breaking all the Rules and Getting so Much Expansion!

[Chuck6877]

I'm 7x5 1/8 now and have been using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] for a little over 3 weeks but have a lot of previous dry pumping experience and lots of Penis Enlargement experience learned at the Penis Enlargement Gym(another forum but [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] dominates them). Nothing is better I think than this [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] though I believe for length and girth. I've already gained a little over 1/8 girth so far but really just started using the thing a lot more so expect gains to come quick now. Never had much luck gaining girth no matter what I did but now I don't see how I'm not going to gain quickly.

First I've learned you have to get your dick used to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and pressures. Just keep doing it like DLD says every day. Don't stop.
My dick couldn't handle the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] the first week and I got almost no expansion but tons of burst capillaries I guess cuz my dick would be covered all over with red dots.
Like clockwork though a day later i did it again.
I did stop for two days at the beginning and the red dots got bad again!

The red dots stopped appearing after about 1-2 weeks and that's when I turned up the intensity!!

First of all I don't believe the funky looking dick with fluid build up is that big of a deal cuz I'm still getting tissue expansion and a lot of it. Doing what I'm doing will cause fluid buildup! But also tons of expansion from tissue expansion too

ALSO THIS MAY NOT WORK FOR EVERYONE!

At first I was doing 5,6,10,15,20 minute sets. Trying it all. To get max expansion I'd have to do like 7 or more sets of 10 minutes! Not a good use of time.

I then started experimenting with longer sessions this last week and the results have been amazing.
I learned that going in erect works best for me! Get it hard and enter.
I'm now doing 45-50 mins straight in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] and am packing the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words]! My dick will touch all the sides of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words]. I come out of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] longer and go up from my usual 5 1/8 inch girth to 6 inches and higher!

I then do about 10-15 mins of jelqing, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words](slow squash jelq's), horse squeeze type things, etc. My dick turns a real nice almost purple for a few seconds after each [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] cuz I am now doing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s so intensely!!

24 hours later though the color is almost completely gone but am using for this last week Ammonium Lactate lotion so I think this is helping keep darkness down cuz I've always had trouble with darkening.

For me the really long sets is working awesome now but would not have worked my first two weeks cuz my dick would probably have every capillary broke in my dick! My theory is that with the broke capillaries you can't expand so go easy the first weeks.

The other day I did like Dan Clizer does but took it up a notch....
I separated by 3-4 hours my workouts of about 45 mins and stopped after I had maxed out the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] for about 4 mins then did 10-15 mins manual.

I did 4 workouts of 45-50 and the 10-15 of manual in the same day one day!! Was swolt all day.

Yesterday and today I'm doing 2 sets of 45 mins. I don't always go to max pressure cuz the pain can get bad but if I don't get to max I'll just go to 50 mins or longer till I max it out for about 4 mins. Any longer than about 4 mins after i max out the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Herc[/words] and the fluid below the head gets too bad!

The fluid below the head I work out with the manual exercises. I actually do a modification to the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s. I actually squeeze with my top hand of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] about the top 2-3 inches of my dick while I also push down toward my base. This forces that fluid buildup below the head down into the shaft more and even out of the dick.

After each of these modified [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s I will have a funky looking fluid moved around dick especially below the head for a minute but I masturbate(edge) till my dick looks normal again in no time. Then I do another!

Expansion is lasting longer and longer every time I do this. Dick is looking so good! Hanging longer and fatter

Doing too much in a day does start to hurt the skin of the dick like a sunburn and can hurt to touch a bit and leave dick kind of red. The day I did 4x 45 minuters it was on fire!! Lol. Learned that was too much!!

Also maxing out the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] does cause the base to dig into the gator making it very uncomfortable. This is even with me using the sleeves. I can't imagine what it would be like without the sleeve cuz the pain can be bad!

I fight through the pain and hope the gains come quick which I'm hopeful they will!!

One other note:
Use coconut oil or something on your dick afterwards and maybe avoid max pressure if you're going this long in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Herc[/words] cuz you're gonna get like I have stretch marks start to form around the base cuz the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is trying to rip your dick off your body! I now just pump less than max length wise and go longer to avoid this getting worse!

Your dick will be super sensitive immediately after the workout so it's hard not to nut fast but my girlfriend has had sex with all different sizes of my dick and says 5.5-5.75 inches girth is best! 6 inches girth is a little too big for her. About 2 hours after pumping I'm still over 5.5 girth and not as sensitive so this is the perfect time for us to have some fun

Hope my testimonial helps someone!!

Proposing to my live-in girlfriend soon so building this dick for us for the rest of our lives. Hoping I'm 7.5 inches long (like to grind and so does girlfriend so longest I wanna be) x5.5-5.75 girth sooner than later!!

Think it will be sooner....

 

[seattle_steve]

And here I thought my 1x10 then 2x15 was a lot of time! Damn that's a serious workout bro!

 

[DLD]

Chuck, I can tell you have done your research, listened to everything I have said and are implementing it. You are already an inspiration for me and I know this will be the same for those who get involved with this thread. I wish you all the gains you desire!

 

[Chuck6877]

I should also add that I do the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] laying in bed or on the couch. I know how much water to put in to pump initially without it spilling out. I push my hard dick down to enter it initially before pumping. Then I have a large towel that I catch the water with after that.

I also look at adult entertainment to get hard initially and for the manual exercises.

 

[DLD]

I should also add that I do the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] laying in bed or on the couch. I know how much water to put in to pump initially without it spilling out. I push my hard dick down to enter it initially before pumping. Then I have a large towel that I catch the water with after that.

I also look at adult entertainment to get hard initially and for the manual exercises.

You are a rule breaker!

 

[Chuck6877]

Seattle Steve,
Lol. Yea I was surprised Dan Clizer was going as long as he was and was thinking what's the danger IF your dick is ready for it....

DLD,
Thanks so much. That means a lot coming from u! You're an inspiration to so many... You, Dan Clizer's posts and others have taught me so much this last month or so I've been on here. I've read every thread going back two and more months about the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]!!

My question to everyone: Has no one else ever done super long times in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]?

 

[DLD]

My question to everyone: Has no one else ever done super long times in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]?

Some men do, I just think that shorter sessions with jelqing included works best for me. Long sessions can bring too much fluid retention,. Some guys are different and can handle it, my best advice is to experiment and find your own happy medium.

 

[Chuck6877]

One thing I thought I should add:
Fluid buildup and a funky looking dick is NOT permanent but very temporary. (hours long)

If you don't work out the fluid that builds up below the head your dick will look pretty damn funny but it goes away!

I am getting tons of expansion with the buildup, more than with all the short sets etc. so it has to work right!?

Even Dan Clizer started doing 30 minute sets and has abandoned his 6 minute sets.

I used to push air pumping longer and harder than I should have and the side effects such as burst blood vessels, dark dick and fluid build up are a lot more prevalent it seems like with air pumps than with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words].

 

[Chuck6877]

Some men do, I just think that shorter sessions with jelqing included works best for me. Long sessions can bring too much fluid retention,. Some guys are different and can handle it, my best advice is to experiment and find your own happy medium.

Read this after I just posted.

Remember me asking about the fluid retention weeks ago?

I still am not sure but don't think it's that big of a deal and a lot of men might start gaining a lot more in my opinion if they get some fluid buildup during workouts...

The fear of the fluid could be more because it looks so disfiguring than because it's actually detrimental to gains!?

 

[DLD]

Read this after I just posted.

Remember me asking about the fluid retention weeks ago?

I still am not sure but don't think it's that big of a deal and a lot of men might start gaining a lot more in my opinion if they get some fluid buildup during workouts...

The fear of the fluid could be more because it looks so disfiguring than because it's actually detrimental to gains!?

Fluid retention will never permanently deform your penis, it is a temporary state, but jelqing in between sets can greatly reduce this. What we want, mainly, is tissue expansion...if some water retention happens? Oh well, it is temporary. With that said, I still belive the best way to gain girth, using these methods, is through supersets that follow this specific order:

5 Minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
5 Minutes [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SlowSquashJelq[/words]
5 Minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
5 Minutes [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SlowSquashJelq[/words]
5 Minutes [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]
5 Minutes [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SlowSquashJelq[/words]

This works so well because the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] is a dual compression squeeze, it forces the retention to evenly disperse along the entire area being "squashed" This not only serves to reduce the retention, but also greatly increase the tissue expansion of the Corpus Cavernosum and the Tunica. The entire goal of girth work is the continued, temporary expansion of that tissue at greater and greater volume. Over time, the temporary expansion becomes permanent and a new, larger temporary size is realized. It is a constant cycle.

 

[Chuck6877]

I said use coconut oil on ur dick but meant cocoa butter to moisturize and prevent stretch marks.

Also just for the record I'm able to get rid of almost all the fluid retention with what I said I do.

Also I was thinking:
Every time I would do say 5,10, or 20 mins and then do jelq's or [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s I wouldn't get much fluid retention but I never seemed to get as much girth expansion.

Dan Clizer used to do 6 sets of 6 mins and then do jelq's and he grew massive amounts so quickly.

So he did like I'm doing the manual stuff after a LOT of time in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words].

I personally like DLD's [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s better than jelq's and think my Erection Quality isn't affected by [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s even a tenth as much as jelq's which hurt my erection quality. So I'm doing mostly [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s and really trying to push the fluid out beneath the head while doing them.

My dick looks totally normal just massive and reddish after a workout because I get most of the fluid out. After some time it does sometimes start to look a little funny as some of the fluid is collected in different parts of the dick. But if I edge a bit or get hard and masturbate it looks normal, expanded and is hard.

After even an hour if I get hard I'll still be close to 6 inch girth. 3 hours still 5.5. Was just at 6 and was still 5.25.

Doing a workout while I type this! Doing lower pressures cause I've done too many workouts lately and the pain is there so may go an hour but will get the same results.

Gonna only do one 45 minuter tomorrow cause have to work and it's time to give my dick a little break I think!

If anybody tries this please tell me their experiences....

 

[Chuck6877]

Just saw your post after I suBathmateitted mine DLD.

You obviously know what works and have helped so many people with penis growth and are an inspiration to all, but I think with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] there may be just maybe more than one way to skin a cat...

Like you said earlier I think people should try all the different methods and see what works best for them...

Longer sets, shorter... No work between sets, lots of work.

Some people that don't get much expansion from the short sets/ [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s might get a lot more from using Dan's method or this method of a super long single set.

 

[DLD]

Just saw your post after I suBathmateitted mine DLD.

You obviously know what works and have helped so many people with penis growth and are an inspiration to all, but I think with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] there may be just maybe more than one way to skin a cat...

Like you said earlier I think people should try all the different methods and see what works best for them...

Longer sets, shorter... No work between sets, lots of work.

Some people that don't get much expansion from the short sets/ [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s might get a lot more from using Dan's method or this method of a super long single set.

I reread your method and saw it was my method anyway, with a bit of a modification. I like to repeat myself a lot when I write on fluid retention, I think it help raise awareness.

 

[Chuck6877]

You've helped me in a ton of ways I know that!

Love your [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s!

If someone decides to do super long sets and starts to get pain from the gator, I have a recommendation:
Come out like in Dan Clizer's method as short of a time as you can, lube up the base of your penis as quickly as possible and go back in.

I just did this at the 30 minute mark and was able to go back in and pump to max pressure immediately which I couldn't do before coming out for the break because of the pain.

Edited to add:
I just did the break again but it must have been for 10 seconds and didn't even take my dick out of the sleeve. I had to stick my finger in the opening to let the air out to push my dick back in but it worked. Pain was gone for bit.

 

[Chuck6877]

Also pushing the bottom of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] towards your balls then back up towards your belly button helps with pain.

OH I ALMOST FORGOT ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS I'VE BEEN DOING:
Learned this from Dan and DLD:
KEGEL THE WHOLE TIME IN THE [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words].
I think it speeds up the expansion....

 

[DLD]

Also pushing the bottom of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] towards your balls then back up towards your belly button helps with pain.

OH I ALMOST FORGOT ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS I'VE BEEN DOING:
Learned this from Dan and DLD:
KEGEL THE WHOLE TIME IN THE [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words].
I think it speeds up the expansion....

Yes indeed, Kegels (and Reverse Kegels) can be very valuable when used at the right times. I am happy you already notice the importance of this muscle group.

 

[Netuk]

Doesn't your dick get bruised?

After 15mins of full pressure, Mine comes out black on the shaft for 5 secs or so, not sure about 45mins...

 

[DLD]

Doesn't your dick get bruised?

After 15mins of full pressure, Mine comes out black on the shaft for 5 secs or so, not sure about 45mins...

Not with 5 minute sets, there is never bruising and very rarely build up or discoloration. It is the 5 minutes of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Slow Squash Jelq[/words] that keeps everything expanded and without retention. 15 minutes, for me anyway, is way too long. I want to gain size in tissue, not puffy retention. Gaining good girth comes from quality expansion, the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], coupled with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] in a super-set scenario is proven to be most powerful with this.

 

[Floppy]

Hey I too go for long session in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] once a day for 1hour straight and the expansion is great with a bit of fluid retention but right after I do a session of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] which help get rid of the fluids. My issue is I dont think there is as much actual expansion as it is just the fluids building up because after I finish with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] I notice it's not as thick. I'm thinking that I should try out DLDs routine on 5mins [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], 5mins [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] and see what happens. Chuck do you notice the initial expansion go down quite a bit after [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] as well? Also I have never tried Kegels in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], how safe is this cause I worry about pushing more blood to the head of my penis while I'm pumping.

 

[Chuck6877]

The first couple times I did the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s I would go from the about 6.0 girth to about 5.5 or a little less.

Then I started doing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s more intensely almost to the point of causing my dick to explode and I would be really really hard every time I regained an erection and still at 6.0.

I have to admit i've been doing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s a little differently because when I first did them after these long sessions I would still have fluid bad below head. So I started squeezing the top of the dick down to the circumcision scar really hard and then pushing down. I also rekegel more blood in about half way through and when pressure is going down in dick start raising the hand squeezing the base to get more pressure in.

I'll do a fast count to 100 while squeezing almost as hard as humanly possible and pushing down with the top hand while doing these [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s. After that I'll regain an erection and go again. I did 30 minutes of them last night!

I have to admit that I'm taking a herbal pill called firminite that I still have some of that got taken off the market. It had undeclared tadalafil(CIALIS) in it so I guess I'm taking cialis and didn't know it. I still have a bunch of the pills and they help termendously. What will I take after I run out? Not sure.

Netuk,
My dick comes out kinda dark but I'm putting ammonium lactate lotion on it so this kind of helps it go back to its normal color after about 24 hours.

 

[Chuck6877]

Netuk,
One more thing to add.

I got horrible sleep last night, hadn't taken my herbal pill in a while, wasn't getting a good seal on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] at all! Air bubbles kept going in like crazy. I travel a lot and am on the road. When I get home I'm going to change the sleeve I have cause not getting good seal with it.

I hadn't had red dots in a while but was having such a hard time just now keeping a good seal, bubbles were streaming in, and i kept having to pump the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and didn't have good erection quality which might have contributed and when I decided I needed a rest pumping after 15 mins I did have a darker dick than normal with some red dots.
I also realize I wasn't doing KEGELS.

I think good Erections and a good seal and doing the KEGELS continuously very hard may be key. I go minutes without any sometimes then do them hard and long other times. The KEGELS I think force good fresh blood in refreshing your dick. Since I started doing them I haven't been as dark at all coming out!

Also work your way up. Maybe do 2 or 3 15-30 minute sets till you see that it's working for you...

Took my boner pill just now and am gonna do a workout tonight. Hope I have better success.

 

[Chuck6877]

Sorry, one more thing to add:
I think time in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is key and try to keep it constantly pumped. More time. Better results.

Whether it be 10 5 minute sets or one 50 minute one..

More time seems to get Better results.

Has anyone ever come close to matching Dan Clizer's success doing any method other than his? He was doing insanely long times in it...and gained like mad. He also said KEGELING the whole time helped a lot!

He would do 6x6 mins(36 mins in [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]) with 1 minute breaks before doing his manual Penis Enlargement and do this 2 or 3 times in a day. HE WOULD TRY TO KEEP HIS DICK CONSTANTLY PUMPenis EnlargementD AT ALL TIMES. He now does 30 minute sets.

 

[Chuck6877]

Obviously I like to think a lot about this and have over these past couple months.

I have something else to say!

This last week I've had great erections maybe cuz of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] but also maybe because I've been constantly taking boner pills that had undeclared cialis in them. Every time I was in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] I would have a great erection from adult entertainment and if I felt it going down or felt pain would KEGEL,KEGEL, KEGEL to get it hard.

Just now I had a poor session. Had bad boner cuz was so worried about the endless steam of bubbles going in That also wasn't KEGELING. I kept having to pump over and over just to keep pressure and probably pumped too hard too fast and didnt let pressure build slowly like normal because was so impatient and mad at bubbles.. I have a MUCH MUCH darker dick right now and I was only in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] 15 mins!!! I broke capillaries or something cause I see dots like mad.

I should have stayed at a lower pressure, concentrated on keeping a boner while kegeling while my dick expanded in my stretched out sleeve till I got a good seal but didn't.

Dan Klizer admits to taking Viagra I think and some other herbal pills at other times. So does DLD. DLD recommends many products here at his site which work good and says good erections are key to good girth results.

Dang I talk too much. Sorry!!

Bottom line: good erections in [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and during manual work with KEGELING I think help get a not as dark dick with better girth results.

 

[Chuck6877]

Ok I've officially got diahrea of the mouth and need to get more sleep and think before I post!!

I just remembered Dan Clizer would go in flaccid!!!! He would build up pressure SLOWLY NOT HITTING MAX PRESSURE TILL THE END OF HIS 3rd to beginning of his 4th 6 minute set KEGELING constantly.

So erections must not matter that much except for the manual.

When I've had success this last week getting amazing expansion and NOT GETTING DARKNESS THAT DIDN'T GO AWAY QUICKLY Ive gone in hard, built pressure slowly, made sure I had a good seal, and kegelled constantly.

Hope out of all my rambling something helped someone!

Floppy! Your turn! Tell us your experience with 1 hour sets. Beginning erect girth, girth out of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], what's helped, hurt? After manual do you keep some of the expansion?

 

[DLD]

Good stuff, this is not a rant, this is very valuable data to everyone! I commend your ability to spread the awareness and explain these things in detail. The idea of a progress log is to become better, gain a greater understanding of yourself, your limits, your gifts, etc. Expressing these things in a log becomes such important history after you have made your gains. Look at any of the data logs from long time members, the information in each of their logs is like a free Penis Enlargement paysite in itself! The things we share with each other create the innovations and further expansion of the Penis Enlargement process as a whole.

 

[Chuck6877]

Thanks DLD. Makes my comments feel more than welcome!

Like to share something else I've found that's cool:
Like I've said I was squeezing my dick below the head to get out fluid. I was noticing that hours later just below where I was squeezing hard was measuring largest later on and also the most hard. ALSO just above the bottom hand against my body was hardest and widest as well.

It was leAving my dick fattest right below my circumcision scar and skinnier above and below.I didn't like this and wanted to even it out and have a theory that right next to where is being squeezed is getting the most intense pressure causing expansion to be greatest there.

The last three workouts I've done, I've actually done something different that seems pretty awesome!:
1) I've been keeping the hand at the base squeezing hard.
2) the other hand I've been squeezing just below the head as hard as I can for say 10 seconds.
3) then I've been moving down the shaft and squeezing as hard as possible in 1/2 inch increments till my hands met.
4) if start to lose erection I pause and get hard again and then resume.

This has been leaving me harder than I can ever remember in my life when erect and if I pumped up to 6.0 I'd be as hard as a rock at 6.0. If I pumped to 5.5 I'd be as hard as a rock at 5.5.

I just pumped to 5.5 tonight nice and slow for about an hour at low pressures(my dick needed a break from the high pressures!!), did these and the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words]'s for 15 minutes and then edged for about 30 minutes before rewarding myself

Get home tomorrow and am excited to do this before fucking my girlfriend she's gonna love it!

 

[Floppy]

I gave DLDs method of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] then SSJs and did this for about an hour. Did 10mins in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] then 10mins of SSJs but I didn't feel the 10mins in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] so each set I went up another 5mins with last one going for 25mins and just did 10mins of SSJs in between. Results were almost identical to going 1hr straight in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] followed by SSJs but there was no fluid retention at all. I'd have to say I like the smaller sets better with SSJs even if it is a bit more work but I'll have to give it another go and do more SSJs because my EQ what not very good yesterday so I'm taking today off to rest and will see what happens tomorrow. Oh and sorry I can't give measurement but I don't measure.

 

[Chuck6877]

Good info Floppy. Thanks for sharing... Glad u figured out how to stop the fluid retention. My method i just posted seems to really work for me too.

Your EQ wasn't the best which happens to me without the supplements but I've had problems with that since I was even a teenager because of a medical issue. Even with the EQ difficulty you still got great expansion doing what you did? That's good....

Also:
How many months have u been doing it and do u think u've gained?

Sorry for the interrogation it's just still a little hard to believe I may have my goal dick in like 2 months instead of 2 years!

 

[Floppy]

I've been doing in on and off since the beginning of the year but have taken the last month and a half serious and have gained about a quarter of an inch. I wish I'd stuck with it all year, I can only imagine what sort of results I would have by now. Still there are definite gains so stick with it the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is great. Weird thing is yesterday I had a great workout even if my EQ wasn't it's best but today my erections are crazy good so I'm not sure what's going on. Might be that I started doing kegels again or it could also be because I used my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for the first time last night in a very long time but I'm not sure if using an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] really help your EQ. Also do you take days off? I skimmed through this thread but I might have missed it. I notice that if I take a day or two off my penis gets a little thicker.

 

[DLD]

Sorry for the interrogation it's just still a little hard to believe I may have my goal dick in like 2 months instead of 2 years!

That is not for everyone but men who become involved on the level you have really do quite well quickly. I would not try to put an expiration date on it but I would not expect to wait 2 years either.

 

[Chuck6877]

Thanks DLD,
I think I may have gone a little TOO gung ho and need to throttle back a bit!!

My dick is so sore. It hurts to touch. Had good sex with girlfriend today and I kept saying ow many times while she touched it and blew me. Not good.

Floppy,
Gonna take some days off now. Gonna be busy next two days anyways. Gonna let my dick heal. I could barely pump it had become so painful. 3 hours in one day and 1-2 hours all the other days for like 8 days straight wasn't good.

In the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] it was like the pressure was trying to rip off my dick's skin.

When I resume two workouts and rarely three for me but maybe I'll just go for like 30 mins and do manual. This should give me close to a half inch girth increase for the manual. That should be good I'd think?

When you say your dick gets thicker after days off do you mean it's thicker before you even do your next [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session or that your dick gets thicker while you do your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session?

 

[Floppy]

It gets thicker after about two days off without using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] at all. Both Flaccid and Erect girth seems thicker then before but I'm not sure why. It might have something to do with fatigue and after two days off more blood starts to pump through my penis so that might be something to keep in mind. I usually take one day off a week but two seems to be were I notice a bit more a difference.

 

[DLD]

Thanks DLD,
I think I may have gone a little TOO gung ho and need to throttle back a bit!!

My dick is so sore. It hurts to touch. Had good sex with girlfriend today and I kept saying ow many times while she touched it and blew me. Not good.

haha, sorry for laughing but I can relate This was me for my first month of Penis Enlargement, always sore. It will eventually not happen...give yourself a day off.

 

[Chuck6877]

Lol. Glad to give you a laugh!! today is gonna be second day off.

Then gonna stop being so over zealous!

That [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is trying to rip the skin off my penis! Lol.

 

[Chuck6877]

Floppy,
I realized never thanked you for th reply! Thank you. I'm gonna have to start adding some off days especially before I get too sore!

Hopefully gains will come more and more

 

[DLD]

Lol. Glad to give you a laugh!! today is gonna be second day off.

Then gonna stop being so over zealous!

That [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is trying to rip the skin off my penis! Lol.

You will be just fine, next time don't go so crazy

 

[Chuck6877]

LEARN FROM MY MISTAKE!!:

Ok I was conditioned having pumped about two weeks straight.
Was going nuts and doing 1-3 hours a day with no capillaries breaking.
Took 2 days off...
Was pumping in dark room watching football game last night and thought: oh I'll just pump 35 minutes instead of 45 mins-1hour. I even increased pressure so slowly reaching max after maybe 25 mins!

No biggie I thought, boy was I wrong!!! Now I'm worried I may have caused some semi-permanent discoloration because I so badly broke almost every capillary in my dick.
It's 12 hours later and it's still really dark.

Lesson to be learned:
Do NOT unless conditioned for lower times and not seen broke capillaries even attempt long sets.
After taking days off DO NOT go back to long sets without several days building up to it.

I wish I had never taken any days off!!! (but just lowered [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] time to rest)

 

[Floppy]

That sucks but I have never experienced this before and I take one or two days off a week. The fact that you took it easier and this still happened is what makes it weird. Are you sure there was nothing different about this session? Just don't let this turn you off.

 

[DLD]

LEARN FROM MY MISTAKE!!:

Ok I was conditioned having pumped about two weeks straight.
Was going nuts and doing 1-3 hours a day with no capillaries breaking.
Took 2 days off...
Was pumping in dark room watching football game last night and thought: oh I'll just pump 35 minutes instead of 45 mins-1hour. I even increased pressure so slowly reaching max after maybe 25 mins!

No biggie I thought, boy was I wrong!!! Now I'm worried I may have caused some semi-permanent discoloration because I so badly broke almost every capillary in my dick.
It's 12 hours later and it's still really dark.

Lesson to be learned:
Do NOT unless conditioned for lower times and not seen broke capillaries even attempt long sets.
After taking days off DO NOT go back to long sets without several days building up to it.

I wish I had never taken any days off!!! (but just lowered [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] time to rest)

This is really not a big deal my brother, it happens to all of us. Permanent discoloration usually happens due to repetitive injury of the same tissue with no regard for correction. It is going to happen and the best way to deal with it is through deep, deep, tissue massage directly after training. Five minutes will work wonders.

The good thing about this is you have learned your maximum and now can shoot for a level of expansion that will not cause these issues. Penis Enlargement is all about getting to know your body and how it will react to the exercise, routine or intensity.

 

[Chuck6877]

Thanks guys. Gonna be careful after days off. Pretty sure everything was the same.

Ive seen other people say they had to take it easy after days off because they broke capillaries. I guess some guys fall in that category and some don't.

I went so many days without broke capillaries that I guess I thought I'd never get them again.

I'm gonna do more massage too which I've seen help before...

DLD,
Obviously you like helping us all get bigger dicks... Get that discoloration product out there and more men will be batHydromaxating like crazy! Intensities will be higher. People will gain faster! Any luck with the magnets?

 

[The colonel]

Great work man ! You've given me a push to go 40 mins a day now . Keep up the experimenting !

 

[DLD]

DLD,
Obviously you like helping us all get bigger dicks... Get that discoloration product out there and more men will be batHydromaxating like crazy! Intensities will be higher. People will gain faster! Any luck with the magnets?

No luck needed, the device is ready we are just waiting for comparative parts to get the price down. Currently, the magnets I am using, which is stronger than the original cost about $85 before any thing else is added in. We need to use these magnets as the body have very little response to a weak magnetic field, these rare earth magnets we are using can literally fly through the air and attach to the closest magnetic source. I will be in Florida soon, in the workshop, getting these projects straight.

 

[DLD]

...and also remember, we need to do user testing and chart results before this unit can be sold.

 

[The colonel]

Hey chuck you all healed and back pumpin ?

 

[DLD]

Hey chuck you all healed and back pumpin ?

I love when you guys remember to ask about one another, very cool!

 

[The colonel]

I love when you guys remember to ask about one another, very cool!

Hey we are all in this together aren't we ? Feed of each others motivation . Shit this thread got me pushing longer in [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] . Don't want to see a brother giving up .

 

[DLD]

Hey we are all in this together aren't we ? Feed of each others motivation . Shit this thread got me pushing longer in [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] . Don't want to see a brother giving up .

So true. I am always searching old progress threads that have gone the way of the past and bump them. These are the men that need to motivation. What is so cool is it does work. Guys who have been out of the game for whatever reason respond to the bump. What I want more than anything for you guys is to make your dreams come true. Sometimes this dream is laced with pitfalls and stagnation, this is when we need each other most. Never, ever quit before the miracle happens.

 

[LasherG]

Wow chuck, just finished reading your thread. You are beast with your workouts .

Personally I do a mix of Dan and DLD's stuff over a period of 5 days with 2 days off. Recently I had a holiday and had to take 3 days off and must admit my penis was completely back to normal after this time period (I get a lot of pain due to skin stretching I think - hurts like a bitch together with the darn ribs digging into me as well). So ideally I should do 4 days and 3 days off maybe until I get better conditioned but to be honest I'm as addicted as you are so im keeping with the 5/2.

Just for clarity I do 2 days of DLD sets with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretching (10 min of manual stretching beforehand). Then two days of Dan's super sets (6/6) with a little bit of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] afterwards. and the last day I just leave [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] on for 20-25 minutes twice a day. As you all said (DLD, chuck and Dan) gradually increasing the strength of the pump slowly leads to greater expansion over the session (cant stress that enough - otherwise its alot of fluid retention with less tissue expansion).

I find DLD's stuff great to really get the expansion going.
Dan's method strangely creates greater length gain for me but not quite as much girth as DLD method.

Seeing gains much better after this last month of using [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. Gains in normal girth and length I will wait until 3 months passes before measuring again. It does look alot larger so im not worried that no progress is being made.

At first I didnt say anything to my fiancee about this but now she knows I do manual "exercises" to help "correct" a slight bend in my penis (which I do have but its not extensive). She is a medical doctor so she couldnt help but notice an obvious change in my penis so I had to give her some reason. I'll let her know about the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] eventually. Its hilarious because as a doctor she knows, at least according to what they are taught in medicine, increasing the size of the penis is impossible without surgery. So when there is huge tissue expansion and little to no edema/fluid retention she is dumbfounded. Our sex life has improved from twice a week to almost every day now so I think shes loving the gains .

My thanks to all those here! I do a lot of research on these forums to try to get just the right routine and it all comes from you guys.

Goodluck chuck and hope your girlfriend continues to enjoy your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] as mine does

I think as one's penis adapts to these routines the above information will continue change constantly. This just works well for me right now. will change as i go on im sure.

 

[DLD]

Wow chuck, just finished reading your thread. You are beast with your workouts .

pretty incredible, right? It is so good to see men take responsibility and do a bit of studying. Big thread on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] usually mean big methods of gaining are contained within. It is the advice of all the members that creates this support system. Welcome to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and I wish you the best of gains!

 

[The colonel]

Wow chuck, just finished reading your thread. You are beast with your workouts .

Personally I do a mix of Dan and DLD's stuff over a period of 5 days with 2 days off. Recently I had a holiday and had to take 3 days off and must admit my penis was completely back to normal after this time period (I get a lot of pain due to skin stretching I think - hurts like a bitch together with the darn ribs digging into me as well). So ideally I should do 4 days and 3 days off maybe until I get better conditioned but to be honest I'm as addicted as you are so im keeping with the 5/2.

Just for clarity I do 2 days of DLD sets with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] stretching (10 min of manual stretching beforehand). Then two days of Dan's super sets (6/6) with a little bit of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] afterwards. and the last day I just leave [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] on for 20-25 minutes twice a day. As you all said (DLD, chuck and Dan) gradually increasing the strength of the pump slowly leads to greater expansion over the session (cant stress that enough - otherwise its alot of fluid retention with less tissue expansion).

I find DLD's stuff great to really get the expansion going.
Dan's method strangely creates greater length gain for me but not quite as much girth as DLD method.

Seeing gains much better after this last month of using [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. Gains in normal girth and length I will wait until 3 months passes before measuring again. It does look alot larger so im not worried that no progress is being made.

At first I didnt say anything to my fiancee about this but now she knows I do manual "exercises" to help "correct" a slight bend in my penis (which I do have but its not extensive). She is a medical doctor so she couldnt help but notice an obvious change in my penis so I had to give her some reason. I'll let her know about the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] eventually. Its hilarious because as a doctor she knows, at least according to what they are taught in medicine, increasing the size of the penis is impossible without surgery. So when there is huge tissue expansion and little to no edema/fluid retention she is dumbfounded. Our sex life has improved from twice a week to almost every day now so I think shes loving the gains .

My thanks to all those here! I do a lot of research on these forums to try to get just the right routine and it all comes from you guys.

Goodluck chuck and hope your girlfriend continues to enjoy your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] as mine does

I think as one's penis adapts to these routines the above information will continue change constantly. This just works well for me right now. will change as i go on im sure.

Great mix up of routines dude . Might be giving that a go . I'm also in the same boat that wife just noticed a difference and she knows I have andro but not [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] yet . I'll leave it a few more weeks or maybe months then tell her ( or show her ) . Would love to show her my dick straight out of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and watch her eyes bulge ! And where is chuck . I miss the updates man I was really enjoying this thread ! Come back chuck !!!!