Longth;665530 said:
Kegels?

Just curious. Tools tend to hit eq a bit. Could be your missing .1

I do make it a point to kegal on my dry [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] day. Kegals never really have done much for my eq.
 
Longth;665680 said:
Right. That's why I'd say try kegels before giving it a rest entirely if length is the name of the game he playin'.

Honestly though, what's it a week or two to get back in? Definitely don't have to be as cautious the second time around for conditioning. In fact there's evidence to suggest deconditioning and jumping back in to kinda shock the system produces results as a practice in itself.

But if it were me I wouldn't want to give it up either. The pump is addictive, especially how he's describing his personal experience.

I'm never cautious. Balls to the wall: all the time.
 
templnite;665695 said:
Yeah bro its not so important the 'why' it works, but 'how' it does:blush:. I also think the majority of cocks will respond well to the traditional forms of PE, and anyone who is a self-proclaimed 'hard gainer' simply doesn't have commitment to the craft.

I have to give figi the benefit because I too get lots of fluid/red dots if I [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] after a two day lay-off. I know he really knows his way around a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] from what he tells me.

I am the pump master!
 
Longth;665704 said:
I've personally gone full blast with length and seen my gains diminish over a few months. Length is a snot to train, especially if you are trying to use ligament manipulation or the old cell division method with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]. I literally trained with too much intensity and saw a great deal of retraction. I guess there's a sweet spot I never found, cause all my length gains came with ridonkulous pain sweat and tears and it gets tough to keep up morale.

That's why I like the scientific method. Even if you don't get what you hypothesised you at least made progress in advancing your understanding. Not a bad consolation prize considering what you get when you figure out what works for you.

Idk, I've found this all interesting for a while without any real need to do it for a while now. It's still got obviously uncharted territory and there's clearly more to learn. It's that same curiosity that kills the cat in the long run.

What was your approach once you finally Sussed out a away to gain and maintain length?
 
doublelongdaddy;665708 said:
All men can gain and today there are so many ways to go with enlargement. I also think that the latest bit to the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] thread gives very good direction to what we are doing and what it is effecting.

So many ways indeed. Seems like the deeper I get into this life the more ways come about both with toys and technique.

Never thought three years ago i would get a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words], and a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. Didn't think two years ago id own two bathmates. A year ago didn't think id own a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]. Ultimately, I never thought I'd own a penis markedly larger than most of my contemporaries and most statistical averages. To date I have all of these things. And all of you! My brothers!
 
Got my [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] in the mail today and I have very mixed feelings about it. I can see why guys like them. They don't crush your glands like a strap or noose, but is this unit going to actually contribute to any length gained? To me, where I have it positioned- I think the only thing that's going to happen is the turkey neck that already exists will turn into a turtle neck and I may be able to gain some foreskin back. I don't really feel like there is a stretch where I am used to feeling it and I maybe doing it wrong. I don't really know. This is the first night. I'm not freaking out. Maybe I need to spend half the time at first in the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] and then stretch everything back out with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]comfort system[/words]? We will see. One more part of the puzzle.
 
BornInFigi;665775 said:
What was your approach once you finally Sussed out a away to gain and maintain length?

Lots of bundles mixed with fulcrums and long duration [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] sessions with all kinds of nasty side effects from the vac [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. Definitely will never recommend that thing. That's why I tend to say I'd prefer the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] for myself. Lots of positive feedback, and no horror stories.

Honestly surprised if you have stuck with kegels a while and saw no difference. I was doing them like crazy and my eq is absurd these days. But I'm talking thousands throughout the day for months. I'd seriously still recommend revisiting them. Made a big difference for me.
 
The site says it needs to create a vacuum in order to pull the whole cock maybe that part you're missing?:(. Just like you said its the first day, and I think you'll learn its secrets pretty fast. I know people use talc with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] maybe you can use some on this too.
 
Longth;665782 said:
Lots of bundles mixed with fulcrums and long duration [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] sessions with all kinds of nasty side effects from the vac [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. Definitely will never recommend that thing. That's why I tend to say I'd prefer the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] for myself. Lots of positive feedback, and no horror stories.

Honestly surprised if you have stuck with kegels a while and saw no difference. I was doing them like crazy and my eq is absurd these days. But I'm talking thousands throughout the day for months. I'd seriously still recommend revisiting them. Made a big difference for me.

what kind of sides? and are you talking about the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] w/ the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]??? If so, is my penis going to fall off?
 
templnite;665786 said:
The site says it needs to create a vacuum in order to pull the whole cock maybe that part you're missing?:(. Just like you said its the first day, and I think you'll learn its secrets pretty fast. I know people use talc with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] maybe you can use some on this too.
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Na. theres vac! so mch so i got some sweet new red dots around the place where the two cones grip the back of the glands. Hardcore or no core!
 
I just ordered my [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] too, should have it in a few days, I will let you know if I figure anything out on it. I'll check back in to see how it's working for you too.
 
BornInFigi;665788 said:
what kind of sides? and are you talking about the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] w/ the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]??? If so, is my penis going to fall off?

Not unless you have some kind of horrible disease that does that to people.

I had some awful chapping I fought with for months on the glans. Absolutely disgusting, and then I got a horrifying looking blister. The whole experience was pretty awful, but I did eventually gain. I just think a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] would have been a much better arrangement for me.

I do believe I've read that you can use the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] also. Sounds like a decent idea. I have never been fond of the usual attachments for extending. But now we have things like the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] and the Velcro mod. Anything beats getting your dick pinched by a noose though.
 
JakeM82;666115 said:
I just ordered my [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] too, should have it in a few days, I will let you know if I figure anything out on it. I'll check back in to see how it's working for you too.

Jake, You are going to love it, makes all the difference in the world.
 
Longth;666128 said:
Not unless you have some kind of horrible disease that does that to people.

I had some awful chapping I fought with for months on the glans. Absolutely disgusting, and then I got a horrifying looking blister. The whole experience was pretty awful, but I did eventually gain. I just think a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] would have been a much better arrangement for me.

I do believe I've read that you can use the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] also. Sounds like a decent idea. I have never been fond of the usual attachments for extending. But now we have things like the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] and the Velcro mod. Anything beats getting your dick pinched by a noose though.

I tried the noose for about a while 30 seconds, never used it again. Anything is better than that.
 
JakeM82;666529 said:
I tried the noose for about a while 30 seconds, never used it again. Anything is better than that.

Yup, the most painful attachment possible. And, remember, it used to be the only attachment. As a matter of fact, if it were not for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] there would probably still be only one attachment. Today the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] comes with 52 ways to wear and this does not include the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] attachment. It is a great time to be extending!
 
I'm still stuck with the noose...after 1 hour of using it,i take the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] off..and i feel like my dick is on fire rofl lol ..i kinda got used to it,it's not that bad..but oh well,what can you do...i should get the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] asap but i need money from something else right know..damn
 
JakeM82;666529 said:
I tried the noose for about a while 30 seconds, never used it again. Anything is better than that.

I was never a fan of traditional [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]. I could never get the damn things to stop pinching the crap out of me. I still used the damn thing years ago but no damn way I'm going back with all the alternatives these days.
 
ChilDsh;666665 said:
I'm still stuck with the noose...after 1 hour of using it,i take the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] off..and i feel like my dick is on fire rofl lol ..i kinda got used to it,it's not that bad..but oh well,what can you do...i should get the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] asap but i need money from something else right know..damn

The Noose should only be used for Capital Murder:)
 
ChilDsh;667045 said:
I mean,if you don't think about the pain,is not that bad :)

Yeah, but with all the attachments there should never be pain.
 
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