BornInFigi;662658 said:
Two days out of the tube is too much time. I'm revising my plan.

Day one: all the length I said.
Day two: 9 min manual bundles
10 min each way [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] bundles
Dry pump
Day three: regular pump and girth

Repeat.

Rock and Roll! Looks solid and right in line with modern understandings.
 
templnite;662675 said:
XD, why brahs :)?

Too much deconditioning. I pump at a much higher and intense level than your avg PEer and two days out of the game is far too long and inexperienced too many sides. FR was through the roof, my member was red and dotted and it was the first time I have had any brusing since taking a week or so off. My day two is designed to reap benifits of both length and girth but in ways that aren't exploited in their full form's. My aim is to transition from length to girth through this intermediate day.
 
Other than a few crappy [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] session and a really good [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] day nothing new to report.

I tried different placement of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] ie higher and more by the glands, and it seems to really irritate it. I can't pull as hard and forget bundles. It seems like the further down my shaft the better th wrapping ad session goes. I wonder if this limits my gains to primarily inner penis expressive stretching? No matter. I'll make up for it with manuals and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] work, bundled and unbundled.
 
BornInFigi;665218 said:
Other than a few crappy [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] session and a really good [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] day nothing new to report.

I tried different placement of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] ie higher and more by the glands, and it seems to really irritate it. I can't pull as hard and forget bundles. It seems like the further down my shaft the better th wrapping ad session goes. I wonder if this limits my gains to primarily inner penis expressive stretching? No matter. I'll make up for it with manuals and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] work, bundled and unbundled.

It sounds like you need to find a new wrapping method. You should not be feeling all of this pain. My favorite wrap is the one Stillwantmore has in his hanging thread in the Hangers forum. Before learning that method I was in pain no matter what I did but once Still told me to try his method I never felt pinching or pain again. A good example is I could only hang 10 pounds before I was in terrible pain. After I learned a new wrapping method I was able to go to 60-70 pounds with not pain or soreness, this showed me just how important wrapping is.
 
doublelongdaddy;665219 said:
It sounds like you need to find a new wrapping method. You should not be feeling all of this pain. My favorite wrap is the one Stillwantmore has in his hanging thread in the Hangers forum. Before learning that method I was in pain no matter what I did but once Still told me to try his method I never felt pinching or pain again. A good example is I could only hang 10 pounds before I was in terrible pain. After I learned a new wrapping method I was able to go to 60-70 pounds with not pain or soreness, this showed me just how important wrapping is.

Was this his proprietary wrap he was trying to sell? I've come up with a pretty solid method for where I place the chamber, but I'm wondering how effective it is down low?
 
BornInFigi;665330 said:
Was this his proprietary wrap he was trying to sell? I've come up with a pretty solid method for where I place the chamber, but I'm wondering how effective it is down low?

Have you done a measure recently? Just curious based on the description of your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words] sessions.

Kinda feel like wrapping is a waste of time compared to something like the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words]. I had a bit of success with hanging baseball bat weights before I took a few months off. I've heard good things about fishing weights also.
 
BornInFigi;665330 said:
Was this his proprietary wrap he was trying to sell? I've come up with a pretty solid method for where I place the chamber, but I'm wondering how effective it is down low?

No, it was a free showing of how to wrap. Here is the link: Stills Wrapping Style
 
Longth;665334 said:
Have you done a measure recently? Just curious based on the description of your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bm[/words] sessions.

Kinda feel like wrapping is a waste of time compared to something like the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words]. I had a bit of success with hanging baseball bat weights before I took a few months off. I've heard good things about fishing weights also.

Yeah. Last couple of weeks. I was down 7.4 from 7.5... I wasn't talking about that kind of wrapping. I don't [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]. I was talking about prewrap for protection.
 
doublelongdaddy;665389 said:
No, it was a free showing of how to wrap. Here is the link: Stills Wrapping Style

That's actually the way I was inspired to create my style of wrapping. It's truly not a wrapping issue in my opinion- it comes down to physiology. I can't have the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] up very high or my glands are quite irritated.
 
BornInFigi;665437 said:
Yeah. Last couple of weeks. I was down 7.4 from 7.5... I wasn't talking about that kind of wrapping. I don't [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]. I was talking about prewrap for protection.

My bad. I get overwhelmed by threads this big. In my defense [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] is a killer way to get the length you're after. Gotta say the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] is probably the single best way to get it done. If you can afford to chunk out 400 bucks for it anyway. I can't.

It seems like pe works best when you go for one or the other. In my experience using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] while you're after length kinda sets me back. And stretching when I'm going for girth kinda kills the girth gains. Even if it's just on days off. Might be time to morph the routine if you had a loss or plateau.
 
BornInFigi;665438 said:
That's actually the way I was inspired to create my style of wrapping. It's truly not a wrapping issue in my opinion- it comes down to physiology. I can't have the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] up very high or my glands are quite irritated.

So true and this is why there are so many wrapping techniques out there.
 
Longth;665478 said:
My bad. I get overwhelmed by threads this big. In my defense [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] is a killer way to get the length you're after. Gotta say the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] is probably the single best way to get it done. If you can afford to chunk out 400 bucks for it anyway. I can't.

It seems like pe works best when you go for one or the other. In my experience using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] while you're after length kinda sets me back. And stretching when I'm going for girth kinda kills the girth gains. Even if it's just on days off. Might be time to morph the routine if you had a loss or plateau.

If you take a look at the top of this page, I think I am truly focusing on length. I am still doing one hard girth workout once very third day of the cycle and the other two days are length and tunica focused workouts. Truly the way it is breaking down is as follows when I'm on my A game.

Day one: [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] stretches 13.5-18 min following or preceded by manual bundles and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] work.
Day two: manual, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] bundles followed by dry [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] work to keep conditioning and stress the deformed tunica.
Day three: [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] hardcore pumping
Day four repeat.

I play fast and loose, so I may get home late and only have time for my favorite, so that turns into 2 days of hardcore pumping. However, if that's the worst thing I do in my training I think I can forgive myself. It's better than an off day. How does the saying go? The worst day of fishing is still better than the best day at work? The worst [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] session is still better than no workout at all?
 
BornInFigi;665523 said:
If you take a look at the top of this page, I think I am truly focusing on length. I am still doing one hard girth workout once very third day of the cycle and the other two days are length and tunica focused workouts. Truly the way it is breaking down is as follows when I'm on my A game.

Day one: [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] stretches 13.5-18 min following or preceded by manual bundles and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] work.
Day two: manual, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] bundles followed by dry [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] work to keep conditioning and stress the deformed tunica.
Day three: [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] hardcore pumping
Day four repeat.

I play fast and loose, so I may get home late and only have time for my favorite, so that turns into 2 days of hardcore pumping. However, if that's the worst thing I do in my training I think I can forgive myself. It's better than an off day. How does the saying go? The worst day of fishing is still better than the best day at work? The worst [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] session is still better than no workout at all?

Kegels?

Just curious. Tools tend to hit eq a bit. Could be your missing .1
 
Longth;665530 said:
Tools tend to hit eq a bit.

But he can't skip [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] or he risks deconditioning ?:(
 
templnite;665665 said:
But he can't skip [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] or he risks deconditioning ?:(

Right. That's why I'd say try kegels before giving it a rest entirely if length is the name of the game he playin'.

Honestly though, what's it a week or two to get back in? Definitely don't have to be as cautious the second time around for conditioning. In fact there's evidence to suggest deconditioning and jumping back in to kinda shock the system produces results as a practice in itself.

But if it were me I wouldn't want to give it up either. The pump is addictive, especially how he's describing his personal experience.
 
Anecdotally there's evidence. For example acromegaly says clamping has his eq shot, but in my case its just enhanced. Also figi tells me he gets lots of fluid, and red dots if even days are taken off.
 
templnite;665685 said:
Anecdotally there's evidence. For example acromegaly says clamping has his eq shot, but in my case its just enhanced. Also figi tells me he gets lots of fluid, and red dots if even days are taken off.

Most of what we deal with here technically fits under the term, anecdotally. Everyone is literally running an experiment with plenty of success stories but it's entirely uncontrolled and hearsay. I can only speak from experience, which tells me deconditioning and shock are actually entirely valid. But another guy with a different physiology with a touch of squeamishness might actually see their eq drop immensely and cause an injury.

I operate under the assumption that anecdotal evidence is a tangible factor in pe. If I didn't I'd not get anywhere because these days even proof can be disproven on the internet.. I can definitely tell you my girl doesn't see it as anecdotal though.
 
Yeah bro its not so important the 'why' it works, but 'how' it does:blush:. I also think the majority of cocks will respond well to the traditional forms of PE, and anyone who is a self-proclaimed 'hard gainer' simply doesn't have commitment to the craft.

I have to give figi the benefit because I too get lots of fluid/red dots if I [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] after a two day lay-off. I know he really knows his way around a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] from what he tells me.
 
templnite;665695 said:
Yeah bro its not so important the 'why' it works, but 'how' it does:blush:. I also think the majority of cocks will respond well to the traditional forms of PE, and anyone who is a self-proclaimed 'hard gainer' simply doesn't have commitment to the craft.

I have to give figi the benefit because I too get lots of fluid/red dots if I [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] after a two day lay-off. I know he really knows his way around a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] from what he tells me.

I've personally gone full blast with length and seen my gains diminish over a few months. Length is a snot to train, especially if you are trying to use ligament manipulation or the old cell division method with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]. I literally trained with too much intensity and saw a great deal of retraction. I guess there's a sweet spot I never found, cause all my length gains came with ridonkulous pain sweat and tears and it gets tough to keep up morale.

That's why I like the scientific method. Even if you don't get what you hypothesised you at least made progress in advancing your understanding. Not a bad consolation prize considering what you get when you figure out what works for you.

Idk, I've found this all interesting for a while without any real need to do it for a while now. It's still got obviously uncharted territory and there's clearly more to learn. It's that same curiosity that kills the cat in the long run.
 
templnite;665695 said:
Yeah bro its not so important the 'why' it works, but 'how' it does:blush:. I also think the majority of cocks will respond well to the traditional forms of PE, and anyone who is a self-proclaimed 'hard gainer' simply doesn't have commitment to the craft.

All men can gain and today there are so many ways to go with enlargement. I also think that the latest bit to the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] thread gives very good direction to what we are doing and what it is effecting.
 
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