I believe you're right about the scar tissue theory, tho. This week-end I had to stop because my penis couldn't get as errect as before and I also had some strange sensations in my glans. I believe that everybody has different recuperation capabilities and if they abuse them, they might end up with some problems. I am perfectly normal right now (actually, my errections are very strong and lasting), but I will just keep stretching daily and jelq 2 or 3 times per week. If this fails as well, I will reduce my stretching routine. The weird thing is that, these last 2 weeks since I started Penis Enlargementing again, I had huge gains in both length and girth. It may be possible that those who gain very fast might also be prone to injuries since their bodies build up very fast. I believe that the key is in getting to know as much as possible and to get to know one's body.
 
Orbital, try useing the ROP.
I have only had it one week, been useing it since than and already my erections are better and more freq....its early days yes I know and expect a review from me on the 1 month, 3, 6 and 12 month stages of my usage with it.
PM me if you want details on whom to buy them from, I have a good suppplier here who wont rip you off and does a superb service.
Its worth a shot.
 
ok, thanks zulu. i am broke as hell right now! i've read a little bit about the ring of power, i may jump on the bandwagon yet...
 
Hey everyone,

Been doing some research and found a good article on how different tissues respond to damage. Heres the article:



HISTOLOGY FULL-TEXT
William A Beresford MA, D Phil ©
Professor of Anatomy
Anatomy Department, West Virginia University, Morgantown, USA

Chapter 3l REGENERATION
Regeneration is the regrowth of a tissue or part of an organ after its destruction or loss. The ability to restore structural and functional integrity after injury is essential for survival, and genetic selection has left man with much of the regenerative ability of lower vertebrates.
In medicine, many of the injuries seen are complicated by such factors as infection, chemical, heat and radiation damage, extensive haemorrhage, delayed treatment, shock, multiple injury, old age, malnutrition and metabolic disease.
Nevertheless, it is helpful to know how well individual tissues and organs can mend after injury, under optimal conditions of diet, age, treatment and its timing. In man, such conditions may prevail in elective surgery. The discussion of regeneration below applies to aseptic, experimental injury in mammals.
A GENERAL CONCEPTS
l Regrowth of a tissue and its organization for function in many ways recapitulate the initial embryonic formation of the tissue. The formation of new tissue needs the development of new cells as shown below.

SOURCE CELLS (a) Surviving differentiated cells (may de-differentiate)
| (beer) Surviving undifferentiated stem cells
| (c) Circulating cells in the blood
|
proliferation 1 Stimulated by: reduced density of cell packing?
| Physiological overload? Growth factors? Loss of growth
| inhibitors?
| 2 Cell membranes 'feel' that tissue is missing, and are
| prompted to migrate? and proliferate?
|
|
V Specialisation
GROWING CELL POPULATION -------------------------> DIFFERENTIATED CELLS
brought about by

1 Maintained regulatory programmes
2 Continuity of regenerating part with mature,
specialized part, e.g., in skeletal muscle
fibre
3 Inducer substances/factors
4 Interactions with extracellular matrix
5 Cell contacts & gap junctions
6 Mechanically and electrically
polarized fields

2 New tissue requires new cells, derived by cell proliferation
The extent to which cell division is taking place can be determined by radioautographic study using tritiated thymidine, or BrdU-based methods. Radioautography has shown, for example, that smooth muscle has more regenerative ability than the none credited to it previously. Tissue with cells incapable of division, e.g., neurons, is unable to restore the lost cells, although individual neurons can repair some damage to their processes.
3 Organization of the differentiating cells to repair an organ
l Coordination of regenerations of more than one tissue is needed, e.g., (a) glandular cells, blood vessels, and stromal cells, ECM and later reticular elements, to build new lobules in the liver; (beer) skeletal muscle fibres, connective tissues, and nerve fibres, to regenerate muscle and restore musculo-skeletal function. Tissues interact inductively and trophically.
2 Regenerations of tissues may compete, with a functionally unfavourable outcome, e.g.,
.. (a) collagenous connective tissue may outgrow the regenerating cartilage and bone in a skeletal fracture, and fill the fracture gap with a fibrous tissue not rigid enough for support;
.. (beer) in the injured brain, glial cells multiply, and actively inhibit the growth of axons.
4 Requirements for regeneration
l Space: the growth of tissue requires space and may, in itself, be a response acknowledging that a spatial defect exists. Where tissue has been damaged, phagocytosis and lysis of the necrotic tissue make room for the new cells. When the defect has been filled, the cell proliferation is reduced or stopped. This inhibition happens even when the 'wrong' tissue, e.g., fibrous CT, fills the gap.
2 Communication between the participating cells by means of cytokine and other agents.
3 Adequate hormone levels, e.g., thyroid.
4 Adequate stores or intake of amino acids, vitamins, etc., for the synthesis of new protein and other materials.
5 Freedom from infection.
6 An intact blood supply and drainage for the area. Sometimes, too, a continuing innervation is a necessary coordinating and trophic factor.
5 Hyperplasia and hypertrophy
l Hyperplasia is a response by the tissue involving mitosis and the formation of new cells, increasing cell number to meet a demand for greater output, e.g., of glandular secretion.
2 Hypertrophy again tries to meet a requirement for increased effort or output, not by cell proliferation, but rather by the cells in their original number increasing their size and hence content of productive organelles and materials, e.g., uterine smooth muscle cells in pregnancy.
6 Regeneration and physiological regeneration
l Physiological regeneration is a normal process going on continuously, e.g., in gut epithelium, or continually, e.g., in hair follicle epithelium, involving cell division for the replacement of cells lost naturally.
Blood cells, epithelial, bone and connective tissue cells show the phenomenon. Muscle, cartilage and nerve cells, on the other hand, are stable and static cells, in maturity.
2 Tissues regenerating physiologically without any injury are better able to regenerate to repair damage than those with stable, long-living cells.
E EPITHELIAL AND CONNECTIVE TISSUES
l Initial events
A sterile cut into epithelium that involves its lamina propria will:
.. (a) kill some epithelial cells,
.. (beer) cut CT fibres allowing the wound to gape open;
.. (c) sever small blood vessels which
.. (d) will spill blood into the gap.
2 Below the epithelium
l Blood forms a clot with fibrin fibres, platelets, and fibronectin.
2 Leucocytes migrate through intact vessel walls; polymorphs attacking the few bacteria and monocytes removing cell debris and fibrin. (The inflammatory response and agents involved in it, e.g., affecting capillary permeability and the migration of leucocytes, will be studied in pathology and pharmacology.)
3 Fibroblasts in CT become active, proliferate, migrate into the clot, and lay down new collagen fibres, glycoproteins, and proteoglycans, in the construction of granulation tissue.
4 Endothelial cells of cut capillaries concurrently proliferate and move into the clot, rebuilding the capillary network.
5 Continued activity along these several lines results in the rapid formation of a new lamina propria. Meanwhile,
3 In the epithelium
l Epithelial cells at the cut margins migrate out as a thin layer, penetrating the fibrin, and replacing the temporary substrate of fibronectin and tenascin with basal lamina as a robust and permanent support.
2 While the epithelial surface is being restored as a thin sheet, its cells start to multiply and differentiate, to restore the original thickness and variety of specialized cells of the epithelium.
3 Since the new epithelium has to grow in from the edges, the degree of gaping of the cut determines the distance over which the cells must migrate, and hence the time needed for healing. The cut margins of the wound should therefore be drawn into apposition by sutures. The sooner the epithelium is restored, the earlier is the underlying tissue protected from invasion by pathogenic organisms.
The above describes the smooth, progressive sequence of healing by first intention.
4 The surviving deep part of exocrine glands can provide a source of regenerative epithelial cells to replace the surface epithelium, in addition to the lost part of the gland. Significant examples are:
(i) in the physiological restitution of the uterine lining from the basal layer of the endometrium after menstruation;
(ii) the replacement of epidermis from the sweat glands (and hair follicles), after a second-degree burn has killed the more superficial epithelial cells.
Although the regenerations of epithelium and CT have been treated separately, in life these processes, and, indeed, their normal day-to-day working, are tightly coordinated by cytokines and cell-matrix interactions.
In general, repair can restore both epithelium and its lamina propria of connective tissue to almost as good a condition as before. When there is pathological delay, cytokines are being tried in order to speed up epithelial events and to boost construction of the lamina propria.
C GLANDULAR REPAIR
Because they are composed of epithelial cells, glands can show considerable regenerative ability. For example:
l Liver, after aseptic, surgical removal of half of its substance, can make good the deficit with organized hyperplasia and some hypertrophy of the remainder.
2 Pancreas. Ligaturing the pancreatic duct causes the enzymatic destruction of most of the acinar tissue. If the ligature is released before the duct epithelium is killed, regrowth of glandular acini and islets can take place from the duct epithelium.
3 Kidney can replace tubular epithelium injured, for example, by toxins, but lost or damaged glomeruli are not restored.
D MUSCULAR REGENERATION
l Skeletal muscle
l Some regeneration occurs at the cut ends of fibres. (A cut is insufficient injury to kill the cell throughout its length.)
2 The end-piece reverts to the narrow myotube stage, seen in embryonic growth.
3 Just outside the sarcolemma of intact muscle fibres lie satellite cells that act as residual, peripheral myoblasts, able to respond to injury by becoming active myoblasts.
4 The end grows out a little way into the defect, then increases in thickness. If the cut is not wide, myotubes regenerating from each side may fuse and restore the fibres.
5 A deep cut may sever nerves disturbing regeneration in two ways:
.. (a) Denervation of muscle fibres reduces their regenerative response.
.. (beer) Dense fibrous CT then fills the gap and obstructs reinervation of the muscle.
2 Smooth and cardiac muscle
l Radioautographic studies indicate that smooth muscle cells, e.g., in the gut, are capable of some proliferation to replace damaged cells and partially restore continuity in a muscular tunic.
2 Cardiac muscle is at a disadvantage, because it cannot relax and rest for a period to permit cell division and muscle reorganization; and there may be an early and unfavourable response from its CT.
Lung, likewise, is prevented by its elasticity and motion, and other factors, from effective regeneration, despite its epithelial content.
3 Cuts into cardiac muscle fill quickly with collagenous CT, but muscle fibres injured by infections can regenerate.
In general then, a large lesion in muscle will be filled with C.T. Only a little new muscle tissue forms to replace that lost or to fill gaps. Surviving muscle fibres may hypertrophy in an attempt to restore the power of the muscle as a whole.
E BONE AND CARTILAGE
If a long bone of an extremity breaks, the animal's ability to forage, and to escape from predators is seriously curtailed. Most animals, including man, are able to repair such broken bones, and use them again for locomotion and other tasks. .
l Long-bone fracture (involving the shaft)
l Initial phase
• (a) Bony margins and marrow along the fracture line die, because blood vessels are torn, causing some haemorrhage into the fracture gap.
(beer) The periosteum tears away from the bone's surface.
• (c) Young bones may break without interrupting the periosteum - so-called 'greenstick' fracture, but inflammation still occurs.
2 Early repair
• (a) Leucocytes and blood capillaries grow in, removing the fibrin clot and necrotic soft tissues.
(beer) Osteoclasts erode the dead bone margin in places.
• (c) Fibroblasts, from the fibrous periosteum and adjacent CT, try to grow into the gap and form collagen.
• (d) Further back from the gap, the surviving periosteal and endosteal cells become active and lay down new bone and cartilage.
• (e) The proliferating osteoblasts, chondroblasts and fibroblasts comprise the blastema.
3 Later repair
• (a) It is seen that new bone can be laid down upon living bone, dead bone, calcified cartilage, and as free-standing, independent trabeculae.
(beer) The distribution of the new firm tissues, called the callus is:
o (i) On the endosteal bone, and in the marrow cavity, as a bony layer and as trabeculae, together termed the internal/endosteal callus.
o (ii) On the living bone outside the shaft, as a bony layer and free-standing trabeculae and, nearer to the broken margin, as a rapidly formed, large mass of hyaline cartilage. The new bone extends progressively into the cartilage by the process of endochondral ossification, as seen in long-bone development.
These bulky, outside tissues constitute the external/periosteal callus.
4 Union and non-union
• (a) If the broken ends are separated by only a narrow fracture gap, the periosteal and endosteal calluses growing from each side may meet and fuse, resulting in union.
(beer) However, in a wider gap fibroblasts may grow in and fill it with dense fibrous CT.
• (c) The fibrous union (non-union) reduces further formation of new bone, and leaves the two pieces of the skeletal bone free to move, i.e., a pseudarthrosis forms, and may even acquire cartilage and synovium.
5 Consolidation
• (a) When union by bony trabeculae and hyaline cartilage takes place, the cartilage is rapidly replaced by endochondral bone.
(beer) The bony trabeculae (of woven bone) at first fill the marrow cavity, the space between the bone-ends, and stand proud to the outer surface of the bone. This callus bone will be remodelled:
.. (i) to restore the marrow cavity internally,
.. (ii) to reduce the high contour of the external bone,
.. (iii) at the same time, to have its density increased by the replacement of some woven bone by lamellar bone.
2 Some terms used clinically
Remembering that the diaphysis of a long bone has a long axis:
• (a) One broken bone piece may be displaced off the axis of the other, or be misplaced anatomically.
(beer) The axes of the resulting two pieces may not be aligned or parallel: the pieces are angulated.
• (c) At the fracture site, bone may split into many small fragments - comminution of the fracture.
• (d) These bone fragments usually die, but some of their surface cells and neighbouring cells form new bone, which holds the dead bone in place, where its rigid nature is of use as an accidental bone graft. Dead or living bone may be placed surgically as an intentional graft in a fracture gap. Any bone graft is used as a temporary hard tissue, and will eventually be resorbed and replaced by new bone.
• (e) The ideal is not to leave a significant fracture gap, but to intervene early to bring and hold the bone ends in close apposition, and correctly located. This procedure is called reduction of the fracture.
3 Skull vault (compared with long bone's shaft)
l Initial phase is essentially similar.
2 Early repair. The difference is that the surviving bony surfaces (periosteal/pericranial, outside; dural, inside the vault) produce only a little new bone, and only very rarely any cartilage. The fibroblasts meet little to obstruct them from filling the gap with CT, which is too soft to protect the brain.
4 Cartilage
l As on bone, restitution of tissue is performed by the surface covering - the perichondrium.
2 In youth, when it is still active in appositional growth, the perichondrium can restore significant defects.
3 In mature cartilage, defects are likely to be filled with fibrous CT, or the lesion may precipitate a degeneration of adjacent cartilage.
Lacking a perichondrium, articular surfaces are especially unable to repair damage. In end-stage osteoarthrosis, the cartilage is completely worn away, leaving painful, grinding bone ends.
F ASSORTED TISSUES
l Tooth. The enamel, deprived of its forming cells at eruption, is incapable of repair. Additional dentine can be laid down by the odontoblast layer on the pulp-chamber surface of the dentine - again an example of restitution from the surface.
2 Tendon. Fibroblasts of the cut tendon's sheath and other sources proliferate, become active, and lay down orderly collagen fibres, which can restore most of the original strength of the tendon.
3 Myeloid and lymphoid tissues
l The phagocytic filtering action can be performed in other organs, if only one member of the system is removed. Thus, splenectomy leaves the bone marrow and liver's macrophage cells with the task of treating blood, e.g., removing old RBCs, but creates a vulnerability to certain pathogens. Therefore, surgeons try to repair ruptured spleens.
2 Removal of myeloid tissues from the sternum and calvarium leaves much marrow in other bones. Surviving marrow becomes more active, and can repopulate (by passage through the bloodstream) sites denuded of haemopoietic tissue.
A drastic demand for new RBCs and granulocytes may be met by the resumption of myelopoiesis in such ectopic sites as the liver.
3 After the killing of all the blood cell-producing elements by whole-body X-irradiation, activity can be restored by the injection into the circulation of isogenous bone marrow cells.
G NERVOUS TISSUE
See Chapter 11.F.2

William A Beresford, Anatomy Department, School of Medicine, West Virginia University, Morgantown, WV 26506-9128, USA - - e-mail: -- wberesfo@wvu.edu -- wberesfo@hotmail.com -- beresfo@wvnvm.wvnet.edu -- fax: 304-293-8159



I'm currently thinking that severing any tissue in the penis by stretching and jelquing is unlikely. Therefore, healing should at least be pretty good for all cells involved (connective tissue, blood vessels, and smooth muscle).
 
Orbital,

Are you cut or uncut? I'm cut and I had some serious issues with getting a solid erection. I put the blame mostly on over training (Penis Enlargement). I also think a tight circumcision may have added to it. Anyways, I got introduced to FR by supra and roadhogg's posts. I've been at it for about 6 months now and my erections are just getting better (slowly but surely).

For me it was definitely a sensitivity/blood flow issue. With the FR, blood flow to my dick has increased tremendously, esp. when I'm covered. Now, with the increased blood flow, I feel like my dick is actually getting bigger (haven't Penis Enlargement'd in 1/2 year). It's like my dick keeps getting fuller.

I don't know if this will help you but I'd like to fill you in on a non-surgical method that may be able to help you out. I was scared shitless when I found out some of my symptoms were what T-Birdy was talking about. I thought I needed surgery. However, I went online and bot Ron Low's TLC Cone and then the tugger. FR has greatly improved my erections. With this my confidence level has skyrocketed and I realized that there was never any problem with veinous leakage or anything like that. It was all about blood flow into the penis (Bib talks about the importance of this). With FR, your glans becomes so much more sensitive and more blood flow goes to the glans.

I'm glad that I ventured out and tried FR. I highly recommend it to any one who has problems with incomplete erections. I've seen several people on here have problems, esp. with the CS, that think they need surgery. Well,
I was one of them and I found out that FR has saved me from doing something that wasn't necessary and very dangerous.

I hope this helps at least one person. I'd be glad to talk more about it if anyone would like.

Matt
 
Thanks for the thoughtful post. I don't think that foreskin restoration would impact erectile capacity significantly. If you have more sensitivity, however, I imagine that could increase sex drive and enhance your erections. I will not pursue foreskin restoration. Thanks for the recco, though.
 
Woah, wtf ? Does stander jelqing cause all these vein and erection quality problems,or is it from hanging weights and doing other types risky workouts?

The reason I ask is because I was planing on starting a newbie routine tomorrow,but if I'm going to encounter similar problems as the ones i've been reading on about such as surgery to remove veins from the penis and poor errection problems due to enlarged veins within the penis, then I wont be starting a daily workout anytime soon.
 
You don't wake up in a day out of the blue and discover: "Oh! My dick doesn't get up anymore! Yesterday was like a rock and today is dead!"

I don't have any scientific knowledge but you've must really over done it. I believe that Penis Enlargement might not be to everyone, I believe you may all did the exercises in the right way but still, over done it.

Because bottom line is (or at least it should be) - if something that wasn't wrong is SLIGHTLY BEGGINNING to go wrong, it's already time to stop and re-think and see what's going on.

My dick is the most important part of my body, it's a tough dispute between my dick and my brain so that may be the reason many of you will think I'm talking shit. : /

Still, if you noticed something wrong and didn't stop it, then you clearly over done it. There's no other excuse.

Peace :)
 
I totally agree with Bib on this one but, I'm sure the root of the problems is physical. You mental responses just ad to the problem..
Also don't feel bad about having this problem, more more young people are having these types of problems; it has to do with your lifestyle and your eating habits

John
 
tbirdy, i can get all that stuff, but the viagra, it isnt otc. my doc already knows of my simalr issues as the threadstarter, and im going for a follow up because the change in blood pressure meds hant seemed to help, but i wanna get onto your suggestion. The tribulus looks like good stuff for sex drive which i believe is part of my problem, but not all of it by any means. I no longer have the drive, the anxiousness i get when i hot chic is around, the take over of my other "head" sensation isnt there, i do notice them still of course, but something is fouled up and its pissing me off. The last thing I need for my first time is having issues getting it up. Yeah shes not a supermodel, but more then attractive for what used to get my razelled. Now it almost always requires manual stimulation to get anywhere and if I quit for more then few seconds, he starts going limp, not very fun at all!! used to be rock hard in seconds of turning on a good �naked people movies� and stayed hard no matter what til i got off =\
 
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