doublelongdaddy;548879 said:
For me the victory is becoming more my definition of ����������� and my discipline to stay within safe and decent erotic expression without stepping into the ������������ world. All of my work in this is to further correct myself and bring more virtue and obedience to my morals and to further glorify God.

Masturbation in itself is not wrong by any rule ever put forward religiously. Masturbation, of course, is fueled by lust but where I am struggling is where lust becomes wrong and defining these guidelines. It is a very big undertaking but I have hope that I will come to some beautiful conclusions.

Great work in your own struggle and I pray that your journey is filled with self discovery and ultimately a discipline that will pour over into all parts of your like!

Thank you. Masturbation and lust seem to go hand in hand. That's a tall task to ask yourself to separate the two completely. I can see removing adultery from the masturbation and not fantasizing about women that you know are married. As far as lust goes though, I dont even know how one would eliminate that from the equation, all though if it can be done with a penis........i'm confident that you can conquer it!
 
doublelongdaddy;548879 said:
For me the victory is becoming more my definition of ����������� and my discipline to stay within safe and decent erotic expression without stepping into the ������������ world. All of my work in this is to further correct myself and bring more virtue and obedience to my morals and to further glorify God.

Masturbation in itself is not wrong by any rule ever put forward religiously. Masturbation, of course, is fueled by lust but where I am struggling is where lust becomes wrong and defining these guidelines. It is a very big undertaking but I have hope that I will come to some beautiful conclusions.

Great work in your own struggle and I pray that your journey is filled with self discovery and ultimately a discipline that will pour over into all parts of your like!

HeyDLD, just out of curiosity so far what guidelines have you mapped out for yourself?
 
I'm drunk right now looking at a clothed pic of Christina Hendricks. It's tempting to bust a load but I'm gonna be strong an hold it in. I edged to it and was happy enough. I had captain and coke along with some beer. Almost finished the fifth with a buddy. Pretty fucked up ready to hit the hay. Staying free of ���� is so easy and no masturbation is challenging but I haven't faltered. Love my libido level now! Carry on and commit!
 
Ok, so how are you guys doing so far? I've been suffering some EQ problems due to loss of libido (takes some time to get to 100% if there's not a really good ���� in front of me). Old ���� (the videos I used to watch for a while) got boring, new ���� looks just like old one- nothing different- and let's just assume that ���� got boring and no longer has the power to get me on the way it used to before (it gets me on, but not as much and as fast as I want it to take me). I decided I wanted to change something 10 minutes ago- when my girth work was over. How has ���� abstinence affected your libido. With high libido level even a brick might turn you on -who knows LMAO Please report how has you libido changed since the start of this and how you recommend me to improve it. If you're gonna recommend supplementation- I can afford it currently, thanks in advance :)
 
All I can say about regaining EQ from the psychological front is that it takes time. For some effects, less time, for others, more. In the two weeks I've abstained from ����, my hardness has risen slightly and as of today, I noticed my sensation is improving as well. Having paired ���� with vigorous masturbation through underwear over the past few years, I think I acquired a slight numbness. I'm regaining more and more sensitivity as the days go by.
 
I cant say that my libido is higher or if blue balls are to blame. But it feels like my libido is better. The desire to look at ���� is slowly fading but not with out a fight, the ability to restrain from self ejaculation seems much easier!
 
The first time I ever masturbated was 13 years ago, and I have regretted it ever since. Disgusted with the negative effect that ���� has had on me, I deleted all of my ���� this past February. During the past 13 years, the longest that I've been able to go without masturbating is 81 days, with my second longest being 50 days. Too many times have I felt "sorry for myself" and masturbated and or looked at ����. I hate giving into this and feel terrible afterwards as I know that this is not what God wants for me. I always intend that when I masturbate, that it will be my last time.

During the periods that I'm looking at ����, it unfortunately always leads me to having more sexual thoughts, which leads to other things. Women that look "o.k." all of a sudden look much better, and women that are beautiful go to beyond comprehension beautiful. During the periods when I'm not looking at ���� or masturbating I'm more at peace and am much better able to fight back against these issues. What messes me up is that when I see an attractive woman and or a woman with huge breasts. All of a sudden, weakness hits me which leads me to sexual thoughts of intimacy with those women, which leads me wanting to or actuallying looking at ���� and or masturbating.

To make matters more difficult for me is that I've been noticing women checking me out a lot more. I'm a scary looking dude in real life, so I can only assume that they're looking at my physique or crotch, which I have noticed women doing. I've been getting smiles, winks, lip licking and some have been going out of their way to talk to or look at me. Some of the are in relationships, so I'm not going to try anything, which leads to masturbation. 2 weeks ago, an IFBB Pro female bodybuilder went out of her way to talk to me. I just kept looking at and thinking about her legs and juggs, which lead me to masturbation (I dig buff chicks that are pretty). Earlier today, another hot female bodybuilder with implants and an off the hook body smiled right at me and was checking me out during my workout. This lead me to masturbating later.

When I did use ���� in my p.e., I was having harder erections during my workout, but too many times would masturbate at the end while looking at topless videos of beautiful, fit and or busty women (I can't watch sex scenes as it ruins the fantasy). I think to myself: "how many gains did I squander because I was not strong enough in my self control"? The answser- too many. Since I cut ���� out of my p.e., I am masturbating less and have had a girth increase (yeah!).

This would be a whole lot easier if I were in a coma and couldn't see or dream about women. I don't plan on losing my eyes, hands or penis anytime soon so all I can do is pray that one day that I will be mentally strong enough to not look at ���� or masturbate ever again.
 
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Still no ���� or self ejac except on my hook up buddies tits but I don't count that! I had a clamp sesh and my base closest to the clamp was 6.5!!!! I feel great and full.
 
zartan;550025 said:
During the periods that I'm looking at ����, it unfortunately always leads me to having more sexual thoughts, which leads to other things. Women that look "o.k." all of a sudden look much better, and women that are beautiful go to beyond comprehension beautiful. During the periods when I'm not looking at ���� or masturbating I'm more at peace and am much better able to fight back against these issues. What messes me up is that when I see an attractive woman and or a woman with huge breasts. All of a sudden, weakness hits me which leads me to sexual thoughts of intimacy with those women, which leads me wanting to or actuallying looking at ���� and or masturbating.

To make matters more difficult for me is that I've been noticing women checking me out a lot more. I'm a scary looking dude in real life, so I can only assume that they're looking at my physique or crotch, which I have noticed women doing. I've been getting smiles, winks, lip licking and some have been going out of their way to talk to or look at me. Some of the are in relationships, so I'm not going to try anything, which leads to masturbation. 2 weeks ago, an IFBB Pro female bodybuilder went out of her way to talk to me. I just kept looking at and thinking about her legs and juggs, which lead me to masturbation (I dig buff chicks that are pretty). Earlier today, another hot female bodybuilder with implants and an off the hook body smiled right at me and was checking me out during my workout. This lead me to masturbating later.

When I did use ���� in my p.e., I was having harder erections during my workout, but too many times would masturbate at the end while looking at topless videos of beautiful, fit and or busty women (I can't watch sex scenes as it ruins the fantasy). I think to myself: "how many gains did I squander because I was not strong enough in my self control"? The answser- too many. Since I cut ���� out of my p.e., I am masturbating less and have had a girth increase (yeah!).

I don't understand you. Are you abstaining yourself from sex. I mean- masturbation and watching ���� is one thing, but abstaining yourself from sex is a whole different. You've had so many chances and yet you did nothing. Sex is not a disrespectful act- it is something beautiful, don't ignore these girls. When you do this- you are only hurting yourself, since this is in your nature- it is your instinct to desire sex. Go and fuck'em man!

Redwood- Nice, congrats on your expansion, sure is a LOT (do not mean Loss Of Tug LMAO)
 
Zambrodom3;550034 said:
I don't understand you. Are you abstaining yourself from sex. I mean- masturbation and watching ���� is one thing, but abstaining yourself from sex is a whole different. You've had so many chances and yet you did nothing. Sex is not a disrespectful act- it is something beautiful, don't ignore these girls. When you do this- you are only hurting yourself, since this is in your nature- it is your instinct to desire sex. Go and fuck'em man!

Redwood- Nice, congrats on your expansion, sure is a LOT (do not mean Loss Of Tug LMAO)

Thanks man! Loss of tug? Ha
 
RedWood7;550057 said:
Thanks man! Loss of tug? Ha

If there is a loss of tug ever just stretch behind the cheeks.
 
RedWood7;550057 said:
Thanks man! Loss of tug? Ha

I just did a stupid joke- like, you got a LOT of expansion, not LOT theory, get it?... nevermind, it was stupid anyway LMAO
 
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For lack of a better term, I can't be fooling around any more. As you know men and women have different views on sex. For us men, we can view sex as a physical act and not become emotionally attached. The few women that I've messed around with saw it as more than physical, which unfortunately caused them to be hurt. I deeply regret hurting them, and know that ���� played somewhat of a role in that. Sex has serious consequences, so too often I've taken the easy way out and masturbated as it doesn't involve any emotional, damaging or life changing issues with anybody else.

Masturbation and ���� are not a solution, but pour gasoline on the problem as it takes away from any real or potential relationships. I've got to be a super man and abstain from sex until I'm married, thus I will awe my future wife with a spectacular penis and give her the greatest (and hopefully only?) sex she's ever had.
 
zartan;550112 said:
For lack of a better term, I can't be fooling around any more. As you know men and women have different views on sex. For us men, we can view sex as a physical act and not become emotionally attached. The few women that I've messed around with saw it as more than physical, which unfortunately caused them to be hurt. I deeply regret hurting them, and know that ���� played somewhat of a role in that. Sex has serious consequences, so too often I've taken the easy way out and masturbated as it doesn't involve any emotional, damaging or life changing issues with anybody else.

Masturbation and ���� are not a solution, but pour gasoline on the problem as it takes away from any real or potential relationships. I've got to be a super man and abstain from sex until I'm married, thus I will awe my future wife with a spectacular penis and give her the greatest (and hopefully only?) sex she's ever had.


I am the opposite when it comes to female's attractiveness when it comes to ����. The less i see exotic/freakish chicks that can (or will) do thing that 99.99% of the ladies we meet on a daily basis....the more i find women attractive.

Not to stray from a serious topic.....but how the hell did u gain 2" of girth?!?!
 
zartan;550112 said:
I've got to be a super man and abstain from sex until I'm married, thus I will awe my future wife with a spectacular penis and give her the greatest (and hopefully only?) sex she's ever had.

Hmm, can't you find someone who does not view sex as a spiritual act. I thought these women are much less than the ones that just want to be fucked. Sex is a wonderful experience- do not abstain yourself- find a fuck buddy or something. I'm telling this to you because I know that I'd be sorry for not having fun (on purpose) when I freely could. I don't know what women you meet with, but what I know is that there are a lot of women that would fit your requirements perfectly (ones that view this as a physical act only). I hope you find someone :)
 
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I understand this journey may be extremely difficult for some. Remeber this is an addiction. Our minds are used to seeing these images over and over in order to gain an erection. If you are having trouble going cold turkey on ����, try looking at just naked women (kindgirls.com) or watching clothed ���� scenes on youtube. Think of this like methadone for a heroin addict. Limiting your viewing of this "soft-����" will be your next step. Finally after you get down to less and less days of "soft-����", try to go a week without anything but your mind. Use your mind to create your fantasy (this will be the lowest "methadone" dose you will recieve). Now force yourself to slowly not think of anything but just listen to music and feel that 'mind-body connection'. This will take a very long time to achieve and no doubt you may have a relapse or two but the final outcome is a free mind.
 
grapeape;550114 said:
I am the opposite when it comes to female's attractiveness when it comes to ����. The less i see exotic/freakish chicks that can (or will) do thing that 99.99% of the ladies we meet on a daily basis....the more i find women attractive.

Not to stray from a serious topic.....but how the hell did u gain 2" of girth?!?!


1) Without ����, I can appreciate the real beauty of women much more. No camera tricks, fantasies or appealing to lust and emotional needs- just real women.
2) Approx. 1 3/4" gain in 13 years- Bathmate X-40 helped with more than half of the gain, with jelq variations and some clamping helping too.
 
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