While seated, in a completely flaccid state grab your penis with the standard ok grip just below the glans and get into the A-Stretch (other stretch position can be substituted if the A-Stretch does not agree with you). Engage in a reverse kegel. Remaining in the reverse kegel with no tension applied prepare to start the exercise. In 1 second repetitions, using a slight jerking motion, stretch to full capacity (100%) than go back to a non-tension position (0%). Continue to do this in strict form continuously for 100 repetitions. After 100 reps. Rest for one minute than repeat the above for 5-10 sets.


^^^^ so its kinda like a slower version of the Blasters?
 
DLD I will have you know upon starting of my IGF on Mnday of next week I will only do Supra Slammers and Lazy's
 
I too have tried this the last 2 days, 500 reps a day, that a-stretch is deadly. My veiny weasel is sore this morning, but will do 1,000 reps along with the phase 1 session, along with my "crouching anus, stretching penis" signature move, heheheh!!!!
 
doublelongdaddy said:
Are you serious about the erections? I mean since you've done these you are noticing a difference in erections? This is very important because this is the biggest change I have experienced since doing Plyometric Stretches. Last night JEN gave me a blowjob and she was saying how my penis was hard as a pipe. After I came I remained 100% erect! No Jokes. About 1/2 hour later (my cock was erect the entire half hour) we had sex and I came again! JEN went on to tell me that again my erection was extremely hard. I went to bed a couple hours later and throughout the entire night I was waking up with raging hard-ons (and I wake up allot). When I got up this morning my penis was so hard I could not piss??? If you are experiencing this I am very interested. I just picked up the entire Graves Anatomy on the male reproductive system because I am very curious to why this change has happened since I started the PLYOMETRICS.


DLD My erectiond have been like this for a while now. They began to really intenseify after I started Penis Enlargement, My girlfriend always makes comments on how hard my erection is. It gets so damn hard that I can't even push it down without pain. Though I will tell you from my experience, my erections seem to be harder and they last longer after a intense stretching session, not directley after but rather that night, I'll wake up with a throbbing acheing erection, and the damn thing won't go down. Yes I have gone to the bathroom to find out I could not even take a leak because it was so hard, It seems like it takes forever for it to go down. Oh yeah I almost forgot, during sex I'm stiff as a board, and after cumming my penis stays erect without any help for like 10 mins, and its that dull acheing erection. Do you think this is the penises way of healing itself? IT can be a nusance sometimes, but I'm really enjoying the intensity of my erections its amazing man!
 
This is the information I have been looking at. I am hoping this may shed some light on the reflexogenic erections I am getting. I still am at a bit of a loss but I feel like I am on the right track.

Factors that mediate naturally occurring erection
Erection occurs when nerve impulses from the brain (psychogenic erection) and from genital stimulation (reflexogenic erection) combine to cause blood to flow faster into than out of the penis. From this limited perspective, the penis can be viewed as a hydraulic organ. It is composed of three sponge-like cylindrical bodies that run the length of the penis (the two corpora cavernosa and the corpus spongiosum) which are supplied with blood by small branches of the penile artery. These helicine arteries empty into blood spaces (sinusoids) in this spongy tissue. The spaces are lined with vascular epithelial cells and are separated from each other by trabeculae, partitions made of smooth muscle. Blood is carried to the helicine arteries by branches of the pelvic artery and carried away from the sinusoidal spaces by surface veins than run adjacent to the sheath (tunica albuginea) that surrounds each corporal body.

The nervous input that induces erection is delivered to the penis via the pelvic nerve which exits the spinal cord at the lower sacral level (S2-S4) and branches into the cavernous nerve that supplies the corporal bodies. Both parasympathetic fibres that release acetylcholine (cholinergic fibres) and other nerves that release nitric oxide (NO) are involved in this process. It is damage to this nerve supply during some rectal and prostate surgeries that can cause post-treatment ED. Nervous input during sexual arousal causes dilation of the cavernosal arteries and results in a 30-40 fold increase in the rate of flow of blood through these arteries into the sinusoidal spaces. How does this nervous input cause the increased blood flow that initiates erection?

SpinalErection.jpg
 
doublelongdaddy said:
This is the information I have been looking at. I am hoping this may shed some light on the reflexogenic erections I am getting. I still am at a bit of a loss but I feel like I am on the right track.

Factors that mediate naturally occurring erection
Erection occurs when nerve impulses from the brain (psychogenic erection) and from genital stimulation (reflexogenic erection) combine to cause blood to flow faster into than out of the penis. From this limited perspective, the penis can be viewed as a hydraulic organ. It is composed of three sponge-like cylindrical bodies that run the length of the penis (the two corpora cavernosa and the corpus spongiosum) which are supplied with blood by small branches of the penile artery. These helicine arteries empty into blood spaces (sinusoids) in this spongy tissue. The spaces are lined with vascular epithelial cells and are separated from each other by trabeculae, partitions made of smooth muscle. Blood is carried to the helicine arteries by branches of the pelvic artery and carried away from the sinusoidal spaces by surface veins than run adjacent to the sheath (tunica albuginea) that surrounds each corporal body.

The nervous input that induces erection is delivered to the penis via the pelvic nerve which exits the spinal cord at the lower sacral level (S2-S4) and branches into the cavernous nerve that supplies the corporal bodies. Both parasympathetic fibres that release acetylcholine (cholinergic fibres) and other nerves that release nitric oxide (NO) are involved in this process. It is damage to this nerve supply during some rectal and prostate surgeries that can cause post-treatment ED. Nervous input during sexual arousal causes dilation of the cavernosal arteries and results in a 30-40 fold increase in the rate of flow of blood through these arteries into the sinusoidal spaces. How does this nervous input cause the increased blood flow that initiates erection?

SpinalErection.jpg


What book is this from?
 
REDZULU2003 said:
What book is this from?

This is an online library image I got. The original book is called Central Control of Penile Erections by McKenna.

I also have a small update on my progress with these too. I have found a small correlation between spinal injuries and reflexogenic erections. This gives some evidence that the Proprioceptors function does in-fact have some bearing on reflexogenic erections. I am desperately trying to find answers to my 1000% increase in erections and this seems to be the right area of study so far.
 
doublelongdaddy said:
This is an online library image I got. The original book is called Central Control of Penile Erections by McKenna.

I also have a small update on my progress with these too. I have found a small correlation between spinal injuries and reflexogenic erections. This gives some evidence that the Proprioceptors function does in-fact have some bearing on reflexogenic erections. I am desperately trying to find answers to my 1000% increase in erections and this seems to be the right area of study so far.


I think I understand where you are going with this and wanted to give you the definition of the 2 types of erections that men can have. There is also a bit about spinal injuries and their relationship to the erection. So you are thinking that Plyometrics spinal response may be delivering similar information via the proprioceptors to spinal injury and it mimics this function or lack there of via Reflexogenic erections. Very ingenious! I am looking towards more information on this. How do you even come up with these things? Well here is that information.

Psychogenic erections result when messages are passed down the spinal cord from the brain to the sacral area. Depending on the level and completeness of the injury to the spinal cord, men with SCI may or may not experience psychogenic erections.

In men with lower level injuries, researchers report that up to 83% with incomplete lower level injuries had psychogenic erections and up to 26% of men with complete lesions have psychogenic erections.

In men with incomplete upper level injuries, up to 25% can achieve psychogenic erections.


Reflexogenic erections result from direct stimulation of the genital area. They are called reflexogenic because they are controlled by a reflex arc between the genital area and the cord.


In men with upper level injuries, researchers report that 98% of men with incomplete upper level injuries have reflexogenic erections and up to 93% of men with complete upper level injuries have reflexogenic erections. 7% do not have erections.


Spontaneous erections may be experienced by spinal cord injured men

Paul
 
Dr. Paul said:
I think I understand where you are going with this and wanted to give you the definition of the 2 types of erections that men can have. There is also a bit about spinal injuries and their relationship to the erection. So you are thinking that Plyometrics spinal response may be delivering similar information via the proprioceptors to spinal injury and it mimics this function or lack there of via Reflexogenic erections. Very ingenious! I am looking towards more information on this. How do you even come up with these things? Well here is that information.

Psychogenic erections result when messages are passed down the spinal cord from the brain to the sacral area. Depending on the level and completeness of the injury to the spinal cord, men with SCI may or may not experience psychogenic erections.

In men with lower level injuries, researchers report that up to 83% with incomplete lower level injuries had psychogenic erections and up to 26% of men with complete lesions have psychogenic erections.

In men with incomplete upper level injuries, up to 25% can achieve psychogenic erections.


Reflexogenic erections result from direct stimulation of the genital area. They are called reflexogenic because they are controlled by a reflex arc between the genital area and the cord.


In men with upper level injuries, researchers report that 98% of men with incomplete upper level injuries have reflexogenic erections and up to 93% of men with complete upper level injuries have reflexogenic erections. 7% do not have erections.


Spontaneous erections may be experienced by spinal cord injured men

Paul

Wow Paul this is exactly where I was focussing, there is a definite correlation there. I am looking forward to getting a few spare hours to research this further. Do you have any additional links to this information?


REDZULU2003 said:
Anyone here got links to any free penis biology e-books?

Hey RED, I spend allot of time finding back doors to university, hospital and general medical sites. I basically start with a simple search and than as new details emerge I include them. After getting deep enough intop the search engines via google than on site locations I am able to get the info I really want.
 
doublelongdaddy said:
Wow Paul this is exactly where I was focussing, there is a definite correlation there. I am looking forward to getting a few spare hours to research this further. Do you have any additional links to this information?




Hey RED, I spend allot of time finding back doors to university, hospital and general medical sites. I basically start with a simple search and than as new details emerge I include them. After getting deep enough intop the search engines via google than on site locations I am able to get the info I really want.
DLD, with you finding the backdoors into bio research allows us to get into backdoors of our female research.....a beautiful partnership if I may say so....lol
 
shojii said:
DLD, with you finding the backdoors into bio research allows us to get into backdoors of our female research.....a beautiful partnership if I may say so....lol

Searching the net can be a frustrating thing. Many times even advanced methods of search can yield nothing. The most important thing is to search each word or phrase to its bitter end. As I search this way I make notes of any corresponding words or phrases that pop up. Than I go back and do the same for the new info. It sometimes feels like a wild goose chase but every now and then I get lucky.
 
doublelongdaddy said:
Searching the net can be a frustrating thing. Many times even advanced methods of search can yield nothing. The most important thing is to search each word or phrase to its bitter end. As I search this way I make notes of any corresponding words or phrases that pop up. Than I go back and do the same for the new info. It sometimes feels like a wild goose chase but every now and then I get lucky.
I hope for your self, your putting all of this into a notebook. Between your research and the work from some of these guys there really could be a marketable written manual manual on Penis Enlargement. I started doing that only for myself. And being able to refer to a specific page at any time is really convienent for me. Plus, there really is some great research on different topics here. Not just good booty pics......
 
Hey RED, I spend allot of time finding back doors to university, hospital and general medical sites. I basically start with a simple search and than as new details emerge I include them. After getting deep enough intop the search engines via google than on site locations I am able to get the info I really want

LOL, dld ya sneaky bastard.
If ya did this to the Military than ya would have the Feds up ya ass LOL.
Hey hack me in to some medical penis site with a library of mammoth cock books!!!!!
 
Hey DLD,
This Polymetrics stuff is great. My penis if finally responding to this. I do this with Rotary blasters. About a month ago, I was measuring 7 1/4" bone press length. Now I am measuring 7 3/4" in bone press length.. We are getting closer and closer to breaking the secrets of Penis Enlargement. There is one subject I would like to bring up. I have beening reading alot about TOPIGLANS also called Befar. It is an FDA approved transdermal medication which is applied to the head of your penis. It suppose to cause instant blow flow to the penis. As a matter of fact, I read one article where the doctor qouted that there is more blood flow to the head of the penis(glans) then there is when you take viagra. It is actually applied to the top head of the penis near the hole opening... I am dying to get some, but just one application is close to $30 dollars.. Way too expensive. But, I am thinking if I had a supply of that stuff and put it on every day then blood flow to the penis would be engorging my glans and the rest of my penis all day... I think it would be invaluable as a Penis Enlargement tool, especially to develope the glans. Hey Supra, maybe this is up your alley !!!
 
shojii said:
I hope for your self, your putting all of this into a notebook. Between your research and the work from some of these guys there really could be a marketable written manual manual on Penis Enlargement. I started doing that only for myself. And being able to refer to a specific page at any time is really convienent for me. Plus, there really is some great research on different topics here. Not just good booty pics......

You know I got to get my booty on but what good is the booty with a little pecker:D I keep all the data I study along with images, video and any other media that is available. Sometimes it is nothing important at the time but this thread is living proof that every detail is important to keep on file for future reference. The Penis EnlargementNIS is a difficult subject to reasearch due to the lack of research done on the human penis. I find myself looking through mammal data sometimes because the information is more readily available.


Supra said:
Man DLD I really like these

SUPRA I am really interested if these have an effect on nocturnal and waking erections for you. I know we share some of the same issues and your information is so valuable to this study.

REDZULU2003 said:
LOL, dld ya sneaky bastard.
If ya did this to the Military than ya would have the Feds up ya ass LOL.
Hey hack me in to some medical penis site with a library of mammoth cock books!!!!!

I'm very, very sneaky sir:D I guess this may be hacking but I only use it for the good of the movement so I feel justified.


bigtim said:
Hey DLD,
This Polymetrics stuff is great. My penis if finally responding to this. I do this with Rotary blasters. About a month ago, I was measuring 7 1/4" bone press length. Now I am measuring 7 3/4" in bone press length.. We are getting closer and closer to breaking the secrets of Penis Enlargement. There is one subject I would like to bring up. I have beening reading alot about TOPIGLANS also called Befar. It is an FDA approved transdermal medication which is applied to the head of your penis. It suppose to cause instant blow flow to the penis. As a matter of fact, I read one article where the doctor qouted that there is more blood flow to the head of the penis(glans) then there is when you take viagra. It is actually applied to the top head of the penis near the hole opening... I am dying to get some, but just one application is close to $30 dollars.. Way too expensive. But, I am thinking if I had a supply of that stuff and put it on every day then blood flow to the penis would be engorging my glans and the rest of my penis all day... I think it would be invaluable as a Penis Enlargement tool, especially to develope the glans. Hey Supra, maybe this is up your alley !!!

First, congratulations on the gains! You must feel great.

We have some great minds at work within the penis enlargement forums. I have to say that things are much more advanced then 3 short years ago.

I am going to look into this topical ointments you are referring to. I have not heard anything on it yet but it does sound interesting.
 
DLD, maybe ya could make a simple GUIDE in text format to useing the search engines and finding backdoors even....serious, we should all do this...imagine all the adult entertainment.
 
doublelongdaddy said:
I have to say that things are much more advanced then 3 short years ago.

Oh yeah it is man. I remember the first Penis Enlargement site i ever joined. I took my dad's credit card when he was at work one day and paid $19.95 for a site owned by Brandon Reece calles www.penis-enlargement-now.com which doesn't exist anymore. These were the instructions: Manual stretches straight out, down, and to each side for 30 seconds per rep, then slap your penis against your leg to get the blood flow working again. I forget how many sets I was supposed to do. After that I was supposed to jelq for one hour at 40-50% erect. Then I was supposed to do at least 1000 kegels, preferably 2000. That's all. And I was supposed to gain 3 inches in 2 months. Right.

Man, I love [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words].
 
Supra said:
Yea on Monday I am going to get with it and really see how it will effect them

Please do and let me know. Your experience is so important to me because we are similar in these issues.


9cyclops9 said:
Oh yeah it is man. I remember the first Penis Enlargement site i ever joined. I took my dad's credit card when he was at work one day and paid $19.95 for a site owned by Brandon Reece calles www.penis-enlargement-now.com which doesn't exist anymore. These were the instructions: Manual stretches straight out, down, and to each side for 30 seconds per rep, then slap your penis against your leg to get the blood flow working again. I forget how many sets I was supposed to do. After that I was supposed to jelq for one hour at 40-50% erect. Then I was supposed to do at least 1000 kegels, preferably 2000. That's all. And I was supposed to gain 3 inches in 2 months. Right.

Man, I love [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words].


Yup I remember Brandons guide. It is all over the net now. The thing is is if it was not for guys like Brandon, Thunder, Bib, Tom Hubbard, etc these advancements would not be around. I really wonder where things are going to be in 3 years from now.
 
Doublelongdaddy I wanted to give you an update on my progress using Plyometric Exercise. I have been following this routine with some slight variation. I have attempted to do Plyometrics two days in secession and I found this to be impossible. The tunica and lig pain was so intense on the following day that even basic stretching exercises were cumbersome. I decided to switch my stretching routine back to your original suggested workout and although I am still becoming sore it is not enough to hinder the exercise. I have not yet measured [I will not until the end of March] but I feel and see the results. Things hang much lower and my erections are extremely dense. I will report my size change at the end of this month. I will also get you that information you have requested.

Paul
 
Dr. Paul said:
Doublelongdaddy I wanted to give you an update on my progress using Plyometric Exercise. I have been following this routine with some slight variation. I have attempted to do Plyometrics two days in secession and I found this to be impossible. The tunica and lig pain was so intense on the following day that even basic stretching exercises were cumbersome. I decided to switch my stretching routine back to your original suggested workout and although I am still becoming sore it is not enough to hinder the exercise. I have not yet measured [I will not until the end of March] but I feel and see the results. Things hang much lower and my erections are extremely dense. I will report my size change at the end of this month. I will also get you that information you have requested.

Paul

I don't know how I missed this, I am sorry Paul. This sounds very similar to my experience so far. My erections are much stronger and my hang is really good. I am always sore now too, which has rarely been the case since being a newbie.
 
doublelongdaddy said:
I don't know how I missed this, I am sorry Paul. This sounds very similar to my experience so far. My erections are much stronger and my hang is really good. I am always sore now too, which has rarely been the case since being a newbie.

Do you hypothesize that this soreness is in direct relation to the Proprioceptors function, and if so, do you anticipate that the body will reset itself mentally to eliminate Proprioceptors function?
 
Dr. Paul said:
Do you hypothesize that this soreness is in direct relation to the Proprioceptors function, and if so, do you anticipate that the body will reset itself mentally to eliminate Proprioceptors function?

I do not think that the Proprioceptor function stops but I do think when the suspensory ligament is stretched that the ligament spindle records change. I believe they convey new information over time. The new information allows the ligaments and tunica to stretch beyond their normal recorded size. Over time there will be less and less signal soreness because of this change.

Plyometrics are just as important as any other component of Penis Enlargement. They allow us to go beyond the normal size which allows us to make faster gains than ever before. My .25" gain using this routine is no coincidence, it was there all along but never surfaced until I started these.
 
Jason1 said:
If you are doing upwards plyos then do you have to do reverse kegals or are they effective without?

I do not reverse kegel but I do make sure I am relaxed (meaning my PC muscles). The only time I use the reverse kegel is when I am Blasting at all other times during stretching I try to stay conscience of it being relaxed.
 
Thanks dude and sorry to blast you with questions but I have two probs when doing these. If I start to get like 1/3 erect is that still cool and if I can't get into the A-stretch can I just pull?
 
I like these a lot. Can I do them every day or like five days a week and can I do these as my only form of stretching?
 
Jason1 said:
Thanks dude and sorry to blast you with questions but I have two probs when doing these. If I start to get like 1/3 erect is that still cool and if I can't get into the A-stretch can I just pull?

Yes. I have been doing the Plyometric stretches straight up and straight down with no A-Stretch. I get a better stretch this way.

Jason1 said:
I like these a lot. Can I do them every day or like five days a week and can I do these as my only form of stretching?

According to my research the answer is no. PLYOMETRICS are only effective when done a few times per week, maybe once every 2 days. They are comparable to a shock routine in a sense. Also these should be done as a precursor to another stretch routine.
 
Just got finished with my PLYOMETRIC routine and I have a small increase in length (about 1/8") I'm sure it is temporary but temporary always becomes permanent:)

side note: I have been getting a very tiny amount of blood every now and again.
 
doublelongdaddy said:
Just got finished with my PLYOMETRIC routine and I have a small increase in length (about 1/8") I'm sure it is temporary but temporary always becomes permanent:)

side note: I have been getting a very tiny amount of blood every now and again.


Shove a tampon in, you know the drill. Just ask Jen for some
 
Supra said:
Shove a tampon in, you know the drill. Just ask Jen for some

Gross boy!

I just finished my stretch session today and I have no blood and I have retained the 1/8th" length increase prior to training:)
 
I gave these a go for the first time tonight, I find holding a reverse kegal for 100 reps very difficult and my hand starts to husrt around the 25 mark, so as for now I am doing sets of 25 and am aiming to build up from there, anyone else try these?
Thanx
 
LeeJunFan said:
I gave these a go for the first time tonight, I find holding a reverse kegal for 100 reps very difficult and my hand starts to husrt around the 25 mark, so as for now I am doing sets of 25 and am aiming to build up from there, anyone else try these?
Thanx

That is fine, counting is not as important as form so if you want to break it up into smaller sets you will be fine. As I stated in another thread I think PLYOMETRICS play a significant role in the complete length picture.
 
I am 100% postivie that these combined with my POFULS techince for maximum fiver recruitment and stretch has given me the gains that I have just recieved and has incresed my erections as well.
 
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Supra said:
I am 100% postivie that these combined with my POFULS techince for maximum fiver recruitment and stretch has given me the gains that I have just recieved

Very cool! I think many more people will rock these once more gains come in. I have most of my private students making these part of their stretching routine and so far things look great.
 
These are so effective, I have noticed that they open up the penile ateries and capalaries through the intense shock, thus creating greater erections, even while doing them. These are the best stretch out there. Add into the POF techinque that I put together these are going to revolutinlize Penis Enlargement.
 
Supra said:
These are so effective, I have noticed that they open up the penile ateries and capalaries through the intense shock, thus creating greater erections, even while doing them. These are the best stretch out there. Add into the POF techinque that I put together these are going to revolutinlize Penis Enlargement.

I am wondering the same thing about the increase in erections. Perhaps the shock does widen penile arteries and this is why this happens. Dr. Paul, any insight?
 
doublelongdaddy said:
I am wondering the same thing about the increase in erections. Perhaps the shock does widen penile arteries and this is why this happens. Dr. Paul, any insight?


I'll get back to you, very little time tonight.

Paul
 
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