I defiantly think it should be a sticky, I'd also like to know what sort of gains people have gotten since they incorporated expressive stretching into their routines.
 
So many stickies now. This thread stays active regardless.
 
I think the first thing you are doing with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] is getting a small radius lever, very much smaller than "rice sock" or conduit or pvc.

Then use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] as a fulcrum to pull internal structures out with a second vector of force from a hand or two, then add a third vector of force by pulling the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] fulcrum. Bundling would add some more leverage internally.
 
pnoewbe;329158 said:
I think the first thing you are doing with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] is getting a small radius lever, very much smaller than "rice sock" or conduit or pvc.

Then use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] as a fulcrum to pull internal structures out with a second vector of force from a hand or two, then add a third vector of force by pulling the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] fulcrum. Bundling would add some more leverage internally.

With each aditional fulcrum point more stress will be applied allowing for greater expression of internal penis.
 
REDZULU2003;331528 said:
I would like to see peoples results now with this exercise.

Me too:) Especially as it is becoming a hot topic in Penis Enlargement
 
Ok I need some assistance. I have been jelqing for like 5 months now. I have gotten very decent gains in both girth and length. Im more focused on girth because it seems to me that I gain length somewhat easy. I tested my LOT and I get the most tugback at 12 o'clock. So this means is high right? Anyway I like this E-stretch idea; specially now that I wanna add some serious length to my cock. I recently purchased DLDs [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]dvd[/words] (BY THE WAY WHAT AN AWESOME [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words]) and I just started to hit my ligs ( the base of my dick hurts right now for the first time). I can already see that my dick is longer and is been like a week. (Dont wanna measure yet tho). From what Ive read here youre suppossed stretch the ligs first and then work the tunica for length. So then when should I try this exercise? Oh and by the way feel free to advise me on how to aquire the most length since Im a stretching newbie... thanx everyone
 
Don_leon7;331676 said:
Ok I need some assistance. I have been jelqing for like 5 months now. I have gotten very decent gains in both girth and length. Im more focused on girth because it seems to me that I gain length somewhat easy. I tested my LOT and I get the most tugback at 12 o'clock. So this means is high right? Anyway I like this E-stretch idea; specially now that I wanna add some serious length to my cock. I recently purchased DLDs [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]dvd[/words] (BY THE WAY WHAT AN AWESOME [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words]) and I just started to hit my ligs ( the base of my dick hurts right now for the first time). I can already see that my dick is longer and is been like a week. (Dont wanna measure yet tho). From what Ive read here youre suppossed stretch the ligs first and then work the tunica for length. So then when should I try this exercise? Oh and by the way feel free to advise me on how to aquire the most length since Im a stretching newbie... thanx everyone

If you have to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power Assist[/words] you can really use the inner circle to assist in Expressive Stretching. It is exactly the perfect size to push against the pelvic bone while stretching.
 
I have been reading some HUGE anatomy books today that I have and was reading on the area where this exercise targets. Sure enough lots of 'inner' penis resides and can be pulled to the outside with something like this but it will be a struggle because of the very strong muscles that anchor the penis bulb down so it doesnt detach itself. This is why I think many who do this get a burn sensation or a weird intense pulling feeling .. its the muscle contracting and is located around 1/2 inch from the anus.

I will post tommorow my findings on this which isnt really anything new apart from more scientific drawings and terminology but also possibly a better understanding at hitting this area.

Makes me wonder that most length gains are in this region and not the standard thinking in ligaments and how does everyone know when they gain length that its the ligaments and not either new inner penis thats become external or external penis thats multiplied + grown and become larger?

Interesting as always is pe ... would be AWESOME if a scientific study was done on people say for example in these forums with tissue samples taken to see what exactly happens.
 
Thanks for kicking in Red, this thread has been highly slept on and I think everone can benefit from exploring it.
 
DLD!

I've read all of the posts in this thread, but just wanted to make sure of something. I've got a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power Assist[/words]. What stretch, with my scrotum and penis through the hole, is best suited for this result? And where do I hold my cock n' balls?
 
SImply push the loop back, against your pubic bone and using both hands, stretc your entire unit out (Ball and all:))
 
doublelongdaddy;334611 said:
SImply push the loop back, against your pubic bone and using both hands, stretc your entire unit out (Ball and all:))

I did it.

I will say that, in order for it to truly work for me personally, I have to stretch my cock only with one and and both with the other.

I think I may have found a strong play of the A-Stretch with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power Assist[/words].

1. Put both balls and cock through hole against pubic bone.
2. Put end corners fit against your thighs
3. Pulling just your cock and squatting as far as you can, do a double a-stretch.
 
stevie7inch;334651 said:
I did it.

I will say that, in order for it to truly work for me personally, I have to stretch my cock only with one and and both with the other.

I think I may have found a strong play of the A-Stretch with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power Assist[/words].

1. Put both balls and cock through hole against pubic bone.
2. Put end corners fit against your thighs
3. Pulling just your cock and squatting as far as you can, do a double a-stretch.


Damn, that sounds POWER-FULL! I love the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power Assist[/words].
 
I have somethings to mention about the area this exercise will be affecting. Let me say that tonight I had a go with this stretch in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power Assist[/words] and wow ... what a session, very intense and I can see exactly the potential in this now.

Held the stretch for 60 seconds and will use this in my routine going for upto 10 mins non-stop as for me that seems the best route being more time under tension [TUT] which is a similer concept as to how [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] work, but in this case the inner penile tissue is being stretched.

Okay .. been reading Gray's anatomy amongst others and was very interested in the secion on the perineum.

Its generally defined as the surface region in both males and females between the pubic symphysis and the coccyx.

See this

Now, I was looking into this and the reasons for it are the muscle structures in that region and how they could affect this stretch.

I see very large and powerful muscles in the region that help attach the penis bulb to the root and hence keep it secure .... we are pulling on the region via the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words] and when we do this those muscles flex and try to prevent us and limit us from doing much work.

The Superficial Fascia is two layers with superficial and deep. The deep portion is the part I see on the diagram covering various urine muscles underneath it and also underneath that is the penile bulb and the stuff we want to stretch ... the inner penis.

So its 3 layers if you will to get to that good stuff.

When we are pulling with this exercise we are putting tremendous force to the perineum region and especialy the superficial fascia and the deep layer [Fascia of colles] of it, which is thin, aponerotic in structure and VERY strong [The anatomy books all say this] which serves to bind down the muscles of the root to the penis.

Without me going on in medical lingo, this thing covers some area and not just the penile root.

I think its half the battle getting past this and onto the inner penis to stretch out.

Underneath this is the accelerator urine [bulbo-cavernosus] which is also attached from the bulb working its way along the corpus spongiosum [CS we call it ''middle chamber on your dick''] and over the sides of the corpus cavernosum.

Right under this is the INNER Penis EnlargementNIS ... inside us, hideing. Three portion join out existing external penis [obvious] and extend into the body attached to the bulb.

What I've found when I do expressive stretching is a burn sensation and a feeling of a muscle being pulled ... this is the actions of what I have been discussing here and to combat it partly, I do reverse kegels which are pushing like you want to urniate or excremate but obviously nothing comes out and as you do this STRETCH harder and you may notice the region slightly stretch out more.

DLD made this discovery with the reverse kegels years ago and is a much neglected tip to gain length.

Its relaxing the muscles, ligaments and tendons from the pelvic region so the penis takes most of the brunt from the stretch.

I think that when we are doing these stretches though, and as you know its unusual compared to regular stretching positions that the muscles around the bulb of the penis which I have discussed become relaxed and enable the user to stretch further than normally.

Once you learn about your opponent and in this case an area to do with our penis than you can plan tactics accordingly and I feel that this stuff needs very intense strong stretching done over several minutes or more of non-stop TUT [Time under tension] ... to me this will take the most advantage of the strong bulb muscles being relaxed and not keep giving them a chance to get back to normal again when we take a break between sets and reps but to fatigue the area as much as we can and this will incl them muscles too which will fatigue and enable us more chance to attack what we want.

I aim to do this stretch for approx 20-30 minutes non-stop in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] ... hand around the penis, lay in bed sat up with feet pushing on the rope attached to the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] and the handles on the top of my thigh.

While doing this I will do reverse kegels and pull hader & further eachtime.

My grip, if failing will be changed with another hand or hold with both. Its actually quite easy to do like this and you have to worry more about the uncomfortable feeling in the region stretched than the hands tireing.

Its a test of mental strength in someways because its not easy to do and as many know who've done it, can be sore.

I do think that these are the key now to something big ... look on ALL the anatomy charts for the region and the penis, you will see the inner penis and it varies with each male but can go from anywhere 3-8 inches or more.

Stretch this out and in time that big long penis we want should become a much faster reality.

Post your comments to this and anything you wish to add.
 
Wow, Red, you are on to something BIG here. So many incredible things happening here lately...I am so proud to call this home.
 
xtremegamer;335655 said:
Very interesting. Maybe I should invest in a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words].

It is a phenomenal piece of equipment. Nothing like a stretch using a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words], it gives so much intensity that is not available with any other method. Plus, the circle opening and rope attachment makes for some very intense, creative stretching.
 
Anotherthing I failed to mention is that in this deep region of the inner penis, where the bulb lies connected to the root is the Fundiform ligament which encircles the penis root and keeps it attached.

Now knowing this, when you perform this stretch you are also stretching the penis ligaments. You wouldnt think so? Because we're always told about the suspensory ligaments but with this movement your not just pulling on the tunica but also with enough force, the fundiform ligament ... which with enough stress will in time elongate and grow in length, so could it be this that helps move the inner penis outwards?

I've heard Mandingo quoted with regards to this whole thing and that his ''inner'' penis behind the balls looks like its been pulled out, well could it be he has done hanging and stretched the fundiform ligaments to such an extent that they have moved forward from their anchor point and in time with new growth of the tunica, its created that shape?

Like I said in the previous post, the region around the perineum, where the stress is placed when we do this exercise is filled with strong muscles aswell as the inner penis [tunica] and the fundiform ligament.

This makes it a very touch region to hit but one with massive potential I see because of all these structures.

P.S

My next anatomy thread will be on the inner penile area, but I will need time to do some research and learn about it so be ready.
 
REDZULU2003;338303 said:
This makes it a very touch region to hit but one with massive potential I see because of all these structures.

When you have the ring against your pubic area, right?
 
What do you mean boss? to target the inner penis better? if so than, sure at the moment it seems the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] is the best but it doesnt have to be used in the conventional manner but also as a wrench to get underneath the various structures, like your trying to yank a grid cover out with an iron bar. With the hook stretch [Blue_whales mother of all lig stretch which I now call the hook stretch] I have made the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] into something else and will post my method which could be dangerous if someone went too wild, but in a nutshell your useing it like a wrench to get underneath the ligaments [suspensory] and trying to literally force them away from the attachment. With these expressive stretches, as most of what we want to stretch isnt visible we do how you advise with this method BUT I have ideas already in my mind that will use to get more of it stretched, such as the area just behind the ball. If you notice when inspecting the region, you will feel inner penis already around and its just a metter of getting underneath this and wrenching it safely so not to pull delicate stuff connecting the testes and nerves etc which I'm looking into via anatomy books for a safer stretch, but yeah I see another massive variation to your ES with a method like that. The conventionla [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] for getting to the ''dark'' region shall we say and than the wrenching method to grab that portion we can see, but cant pull or use properly in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] to really stretch it out like we want.

We are literally scratching the surface of natural penis enlargement dld.
 
REDZULU2003;338343 said:
What do you mean boss? to target the inner penis better? if so than, sure at the moment it seems the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] is the best but it doesnt have to be used in the conventional manner but also as a wrench to get underneath the various structures, like your trying to yank a grid cover out with an iron bar. With the hook stretch [Blue_whales mother of all lig stretch which I now call the hook stretch] I have made the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] into something else and will post my method which could be dangerous if someone went too wild, but in a nutshell your useing it like a wrench to get underneath the ligaments [suspensory] and trying to literally force them away from the attachment. With these expressive stretches, as most of what we want to stretch isnt visible we do how you advise with this method BUT I have ideas already in my mind that will use to get more of it stretched, such as the area just behind the ball. If you notice when inspecting the region, you will feel inner penis already around and its just a metter of getting underneath this and wrenching it safely so not to pull delicate stuff connecting the testes and nerves etc which I'm looking into via anatomy books for a safer stretch, but yeah I see another massive variation to your ES with a method like that. The conventionla [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] for getting to the ''dark'' region shall we say and than the wrenching method to grab that portion we can see, but cant pull or use properly in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] to really stretch it out like we want.

We are literally scratching the surface of natural penis enlargement dld.

Thanks Red, that is what I was asking.
 
reading about this is really making me want to incoorporate this into my program. However Im still getting gains from phase 1 and I want to make sure that I get the most out of each phase. At which point do you feel that one should incoorporate this into their routine?
 
Don_leon7;338553 said:
reading about this is really making me want to incoorporate this into my program. However Im still getting gains from phase 1 and I want to make sure that I get the most out of each phase. At which point do you feel that one should incoorporate this into their routine?


If you are making gains with what you are doing then stick with it. I think a big mistake guys make is moving too quickly into advanced exercise when there are still gains to be made with what they are doing now.
 
REDZULU2003;342196 said:
Shocking how this great exercise has become ignored, lets get onto it again!


Remember how long it took for guys to start using my bundled stretches? I am used to it:) They will get it. You always do.:)
 
Okay, since I've got a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words] now, I decided to try this one. Not with succes though. It hurt my ball when pulling both penis and scrotum as my hand is slipping. Now I'm not english so I'm afraid I've misunderstood what the scrotum is.. Aren't we talking about the ball package, if anyone gets what the hell I'm trying to say. It's just that i noticed the picture on first page and it doesn't seem to have what I thought was the scrotum through the hole?

As I was going to ask for a video, but the picture looks like the a stretch from the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words] thread. Is that correct?
 
ron, i am not dld, but i do own a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]pa[/words] and am semi familiar with the concept. basically, you put the penis and testicles through the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]pa[/words] hole and stretch the entire unit(or just the penis if the balls are uncomfortable) Against the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]pa[/words] hole in each direction. basically, you are doin a and v fulcrum stretches the the base of the penis. someone correct me if im wrong?
 
Its not a bow & arrow stretch from how I have been taught.

The whole package of the genitals incl scrotum & testes would need to go through that hole in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] otherwise doing the Bow & Arrow stretch you aint hitting the inner penis.
 
red, i have a question about your stretch where you wedge the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]pa[/words] handle into the base: are your arms crossed when pulling opposite directions? i mean, the handle is on the right side of the shaft, are you holding it there with your left hand and pulling to the right with your right? thanks
 
stretcharmstrng;348085 said:
red, i have a question about your stretch where you wedge the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]pa[/words] handle into the base: are your arms crossed when pulling opposite directions? i mean, the handle is on the right side of the shaft, are you holding it there with your left hand and pulling to the right with your right? thanks

This is how I do them, quoted from earlier in the thread.

Get the penis and balls [package] through the hole of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] while stood up.
Now grip around the whole package and keep a good firm grip.
Lie back onto the bed and position the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] so the handles are going across each leg straight.
While doing this, ALWAYS keep a good firm grip of the whole package...slippage and its start over from the stood up position.
Next, lean back so your lay with your back on the bed and pull the package down over the loop end, so its going down in a underneath-like fashion.
Do this with BOTH hands.
While doing this, bring the legs up towards your body....in other words pushing against the handles.
Your arms will now push against the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] into your body.
Also start to push your feet into the bed matress for this, works great.
I hold this for 60 seconds and do X3 in a row.
The aim is 6 reps.
Its VERY intense
 
Than you should stick to the correct thread. The diagram should have helped but to answer you no I dont cross my my arms. I hold the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] with the right hand and stretch with the left.
 
Has there been any new exercises made to pull the inner penis? I really wanna nail this one and I'm still trying, though I'm starting to give up as I can't seem to do this without hurting my poor scrotum.
 
White_Hawk;373045 said:
Hi! What if I don't have the money to buy a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words]? how should I do this exercice? THanks


Get creative. Find a ring of some sort that your penis will fit through, maybe one of those rings they use in pools that sink to the bottom. I am sure you can find something similar around the house or garage.
 
Stretching with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]hydropump[/words] has actually started to indicate inner penis being targeted, much like the Expressive stretching. Link to the thread HERE
 
REDZULU2003;382182 said:
Stretching with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]hydropump[/words] has actually started to indicate inner penis being targeted, much like the Expressive stretching. Link to the thread HERE


So similar in their effectiveness and stretch area. I think I may create a routine using both of these methods, makes good sense.
 
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