i do the scrotom and penis stretch double handed...it is the first stretch i do and i after i am finish i can feel the stretch next to my pubic bone...i haven't notice any flaccid or erect gains..(haven't been doing it long enough) but i do think that these are going to help
 
i've been using the double handed pull down..after i finish my set i can feel the stretch on the sides down by my scrotom and next to my pubic bone..i haven't been doing it long enough to see any noticeable gains...but i do expect to benefit from these
 
dld you could look into using nylon bar stock instead of wood.it would be esier to get a big sheet of blanks and would be cheaper than the wood.wont split warp [usually] or crack.You might make a profit I dunno somthing to consider.
doublelongdaddy said:
Yeah the ASH was very expensive and between taking orders at the 49.95 price and the template and set-up we actually broke even on this run. I am hoping to get enough money together to do another run, we'll see. I just got back from where I store them and I have 4 left for sure.
 
dafatguy said:
dld you could look into using nylon bar stock instead of wood.it would be esier to get a big sheet of blanks and would be cheaper than the wood.wont split warp [usually] or crack.You might make a profit I dunno somthing to consider.

I considered that on this past run but opted for the ASH because of it's feel and beauty. I wanted the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power Assist[/words] to have a certain look that only ASH or better would give. Now that we are running the 3rd batch I decided to stay with the ASH but change the color.
 
I think you could add to the ES theory a bit though. Aside from expressing internal structures, in my experience so far it also allows for greater stress to be placed on the ligaments and tunica as well, as they are temporarily forced forward and become more accessible to stress. I haven't seen that included in the thread, and this has been an observation of mine so far, and this is the main reason I will keep on with it.

DLD what do you think of this as an addition to the theory???
 
millionman said:
I think you could add to the ES theory a bit though. Aside from expressing internal structures, in my experience so far it also allows for greater stress to be placed on the ligaments and tunica as well, as they are temporarily forced forward and become more accessible to stress. I haven't seen that included in the thread, and this has been an observation of mine so far, and this is the main reason I will keep on with it.

DLD what do you think of this as an addition to the theory???

I completely agree. A few hours after I do a set of these I feel a soreness in my ligs starting at my pubic bone and radiating up to the base of my penis. Usually, when I do feel soreness, it is an isolated area (at the base or further up) This complete soreness suggests a thorough ligament stretch. Tunica soreness is a bit harder to come by by I will make special, mental note of this.
 
I have notice a change in my exit point, instead of a straight slope on my flaccid penis it has a curve at the base (very similar to Lex or Mandingo's flaccid penis) This curve it not reflected in my erection but only in flaccid state. I have not measured yet and I most likely wont until I "know" there is a definite increase but things are looking very promising. With this change in my flaccid appearance (which I have always wanted) I think my theory on Expressive Stretching and the comparisons to Mandingo's penis things are on the right track.
 
Hydromaxm.. I don't know about this technique as I haven't tried it yet really. I tried like a very brief second , but then I was like no no no I need to hang and keep doing what I'm doing otherwise I'll become obssessed with this new exercise. Can't afford to do that as I haven't the size to mess around with something new at the moment. Once I get to 8 inches NBPenis EnlargementL I will definitely give this a go as I have a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words]. But it sounds promising. If DLD came up with it and he's seeing success it must be doing something that increases size.
 
IWANT8....you may want to use this before your hanging sessions. If you read my post a bit further up the page this is not my primary mode of Penis Enlargement but it is aiding in my lig gains as the ligaments are expressed forward and more readily stressed. My hanging has become extremely effective in the 40-60 minute window I've been using as of late instead of the two hours I had started to use, I reach fatigue much more rapidly with this added into the equation.
 
Thanks. I appreciate it coming from you considering that you've stuck with Penis Enlargement for a few more years more than most people. I mean now if you and DLD and millionman report back here 2 months from now that you've gained 3 inches in EL I'll be putting my weights and Bib away for a while. This is an interesting development here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. Keep it going DLD.
 
Hey Red, I've been using your version. Didn't think it was important to mention, but yeah I mix it in with this routine, I like to do that after I warmup a bit with the setups that aren't too intense. I also start to get wood doing your version as well, I guess I like my testicles being played with more than I let on....you learn more everyday I suppose.
 
iwant8inches said:
I'd imagine so. It's such a new technique in my opinion so maybe he will add it on the paysite as a separate section.

yeah that would be really cool, i understand it, but it would be better explained through a vid. Wheres SWM when u need him, rofl just messing SMW.
 
motlissof said:
As posted on my routine and technique thread I have temporarily abandoned the sawhorse routine and now use a large roll of clear tape (package size), remove the red dispenser and put package through roll and pull over and in all four directions (have to change hands for this) using free hand to give tension on the tape roll in opposite direction. DLD also suggested pulling penis and scrotum in opposite directions, but I cannot do that very effectively just yet. He also suggested using a plastic coffee mug from which I have sawn both ends and rounded edges as alternate device. I cannot have this [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words] lying around to try to explain it to wife. She has enjoyed my lengthening over the years but has thought that penis like ears just keep growing ever so slowly as we age. So that is why I use plastic tape roll and/or truncated coffee mug. Tom

How do you like the exercise?
 
So what is everyone's experience with this? What have you all seen thus far observation wise? I've seen skin stretch at the extreme base and a sort of flaring V shape of skin when flaccid.
 
iwant8inches said:
So what is everyone's experience with this? What have you all seen thus far observation wise? I've seen skin stretch at the extreme base and a sort of flaring V shape of skin when flaccid.

For me it is a definite change at my base, it is more sizable now. The exit point is lower but the biggest change is the actual shape of my flaccid penis. I drew a quick picture showing the way it did look, prior to Expressive Stretching, and how it looks now.
 
Now I am no way in DLD's league as far as size goes, but I have noticed a similar look.

It is a very cool circumstance I must say, and I like it.
 
Mosterson said:
DLD, can we expect a video of this in the members section?


We are planning for a major video shoot in the near future and this will be included.
 
motlissof said:
In your before pictogram you show a fairly straight penis -- I assume that is to demonstrate the uniform width along its entire length. I guess I used to have this look when flaccid was shorter, more or less just sat on top of the scrotum but now does extend then detour south beyond the scrotum -- but think you are emphasizing the broader base at top of penis. That does indeed give a more massive, impressive look to the whole penis. Now I think I know what you are describing for us who have wanted for what, we didn't know, but now we do. So you probably have a larger girth at exit point now than before -- and you like it I presume. Thanks. Tom

The girth at my exit point has definitely increased in size, there is more mass there. I am also noticing more hair on the bass area (I have been shaving for a while and I have to shave higher now). I love the way it looks.
 
I have been reading awhile on this thread and have tried it a few times with my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words].

My recent usage of my PM got me to thinking. Would the idea of expressive stretching work if you used the theory along with a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] device? You would have to pretty
much make one yourself and just make the base ring wider than normal to accomadate the entire package. Also, this probably couldn't be used in public no matter how baggy your pants are. But wouldn't it do the same as far as isolating the same areas and adding a small amount of constant stretch to it?

Just something to think about

Kooky
 
I was wondering the samething Red...

What's your routine looking like Red?

I really like the stretch you came up with for this as well. I definitely use it in the routine.
 
Has anyone tried using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] vertically for stretches? Like pointing one of the ends toward your chin and using one hand to push down or pull up on the handle? I tried it this evening and it worked fairly well. I can still use the rope with my feet to get more leverage that way too. That's what I like about the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words]. There's a multitude of positions you can use it to stretch.
 
doublelongdaddy said:
For me it is a definite change at my base, it is more sizable now. The exit point is lower but the biggest change is the actual shape of my flaccid penis. I drew a quick picture showing the way it did look, prior to Expressive Stretching, and how it looks now.


The pictures look very different. Have you noticed a change in length?
 
I tried a new position for the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] today, and I utilized the rope for greater [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] and a more intense stretch. I positioned the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] vertical over the base, and I placed my feet inside the rope to gain tension. When I put my feet on the rope the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words], depending on which foot was the "lead" foot, would angle to that side with one handle pointing to that foot and the other pointing over the opposite leg. I grabbed the whole package and pulled straight up against the center ring of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words]. This was the most intense feeling I've had using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words], as I felt this primarily in the bulbs and internal structures of the penis as opposed to feeling a good bit in the testicles as well. I found this to be desireable since my balls hang low enough as it is, and they still receive some stretch in this position. I noticed an improved grip with this position as well, since I'm not generating force down but up and into the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] which is providing majority of the force. If this is not original I apologize, but I was excited that I came up with something that I found to be productive and that I felt comfortable enough with it to post about it. I hope the description is a good one, if not I can try again.
 
lol I asked about that a few posts above on this page. What you're describing was what I had done that day. I wanted to know because like you I really liked it. We can be the co-creators haha.
 
LOL...no it's mine you can't have it....I'd love to hear what DLD thinks about this though...he hasn't been around much, or at least that's what it seems like....DLD where you at???
 
He died...we had the funeral yesterday or did you not get the memo....I mean that's DLD 's skull as PRIAPs avatar....at least that's what Cyclops told me....pass it on....

He's been really busy for the last few weeks....I'm sure he'll be around more when things settle down, of course as much as this place is growing I don't know if it's going to slow down for him anytime soon.
 
Anyone seen any changes in their size since useing the DLD E'S'?
I have tried it a few times, but aint been consistant with it.
 
millionman
He's been really busy for the last few weeks....I'm sure he'll be around more when things settle down, of course as much as this place is growing I don't know if it's going to slow down for him anytime soon.



Yeah it has been really busy, well hopfully things will get better and he can post His ES routine. I think it would help alot of guys out. But i hope all is well.
 
DLD's Expressive Stretch Routine:

Background: I do this first thing in the morning before I start anything else. Aside from being a preparative for my length efforts it also serves as a great warmup.

2 Handed Expressive Stretch:
Massage testicles and penis to ensure they are as relaxed as possible. Work your testicles and penis through the center hole of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power Assist[/words]. Once completely through place the arm of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] across your lap. Using both hands encircle the entire package and stretch downward (as much as possible as you will be slightly constricted by the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words])

3 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]x 30[/words] second x 3 sets

Opposing Expressive Stretch:
Being sure your penis and testicles are as relaxed as possible, bring your testicles and penis through the center hole of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power Assist[/words]. Once completed, place the arms of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] across your lap. Encircle your testicles with one hand while grabbing your penis with the other hand at the extreme base. Stretching in opposite directions (balls left and penis right then penis left balls right)

3 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]x 30[/words] second x 3 sets each side

Hang Enhancing Stretch
Being sure your penis and testicles are as relaxed as possible, bring your testicles and penis through the center hole of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power Assist[/words]. Once completed, place the arms of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] across your lap. Encircle your testicles with one hand while grabbing your penis with the other hand at the extreme base. Now stretch your penis upward while you stretch your scrotum downward switch direction (scrotum up penis down)

3 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]x 30[/words] seconds x 3 sets up and down
 
Opposing Expressive Stretch:
Being sure your penis and testicles are as relaxed as possible, bring your testicles and penis through the center hole of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power Assist[/words]. Once completed, place the arms of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] across your lap. Encircle your testicles with one hand while grabbing your penis with the other hand at the extreme base. Stretching in opposite directions (balls left and penis right then penis left balls right)

3 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]x 30[/words] second x 3 sets each side

Could you explain this in more detail please.
 
millionman said:
....I mean that's DLD 's skull as PRIAPs avatar....at least that's what Cyclops told me....pass it on....

LOL! That's messed up, man :D



DLD,

I had something happen that appears to bear on your inner penis expression idea. To preface, I started the newbie gainerz challange back on May 1st doing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] that you modified for me and clamped girth work (mostly horse440s and some SSJs). By May 12th, I'd seen an increase of 0.25" in BPFSL, but no increase anywhere else. I also noticed that my clamp (medium Cable Cuff) was getting tighter. That evening, my suspensory lig popped and freaked the hell out of me. Because of that, I didn't do any Penis Enlargement, and just light FR, until yesterday, when I noticed some weird shit. First, I noticed some strange pulling sensations when did flaccid stretches, eventhough I was using my hand and wasn't pulling very hard. Second, the clamp seemed uncomfortably tight when I got erect and was excruciating when I tried to do a horse440, even after I let the clamp out several notches. Third, I measured my midshaft width, noting that it had not changed (1.875"), then measured my base width, which had been identical to the midshaft one month ago. My base width measurement was 2.125"! WTF? So... Fourth, I measured my erect lengths - BPenis EnlargementL: 8.125" (up 1/8th of an inch), and NBPenis EnlargementL: 7.75" (up 1/4 of an inch).

I suspect that the suspensory ligament stretched during the pop allowing the wider portions of my corpus callosae to be expressed, as you've conjectured. This would explain why the clamp is now insufferably tight and the base measurement is bigger. I don't understand how this could come about with 'only' a 1/8th inch increase in length, but I've no other explanation for it.

Your take?

Cheers!
Pri
 
I've yet to include ES into my stretching routine (don't have a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] yet) but so far I'm intrigued by the results its users are getting...be it temporary or permanant. Can you guys (motlissof, millionman, red) and anyothers that have incorporated ES into their routine keep us updated on the type of results its producing..eventhough it may be too early to tell at this point...just to keep this thought-provoking thread alive....
 
I've slacked a bit lately with these but I will do a few minutes worth in a minute. I've noticed that the side profile of my flaccid penis seems to have more of an upward extension to it. It's as though my penis starts higher and is not merely skin around the pubic area leading to the happy trail. Also a V shape has begun forming in that my whole package orginates from this point and the area around it forms a V.
 
I'm hitting these reguler now useing the method I described here
Get the penis and balls [package] through the hole of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] while stood up.
Now grip around the whole package and keep a good firm grip.
Lie back onto the bed and position the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] so the handles are going across each leg straight.
While doing this, ALWAYS keep a good firm grip of the whole package...slippage and its start over from the stood up position.
Next, lean back so your lay with your back on the bed and pull the package down over the loop end, so its going down in a underneath-like fashion.
Do this with BOTH hands.
While doing this, bring the legs up towards your body....in other words pushing against the handles.
Your arms will now push against the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] into your body.
Also start to push your feet into the bed matress for this, works great.
I hold this for 60 seconds and do X3 in a row.
The aim is 6 reps.
Its VERY intense
and also the reverse of that, instead of pulling down over the loop end I also pull up over the loop end which is more intense and aims more on the tunicae than the ligaments, although both will also hit internal hidden penile structures [In English thats hidden penis].
ATM I do at least 15 minutes non-stop in the method I quoted.
If I had a better grip I would aim for 60 minutes non-stop if I could.

Anyone got any results or feedback?
 
Wow, this exercise is even more intense now that I have lost so much weight. My fat pad is almost gone and I can't grip so much more tissue now. Before I felt the grip but there was so much fat that it made it difficult.
 
After looking further into this, isnt these expressive stretches just the same as OTS hanging? It seems to me, to work the same area [tunicae with the main target being internal] but you can go more intense perhaps with weights and go longer?
 
Just out of curiosity, is there any reason that these exercises couldn't be done bundled to get a more effective Tunica stretch in addition to lig/internal stretch?
 
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