Whats best after a 6 month decon?

[bulc9]

Alrite fellow Penis Enlargement'ers,

I have finally finished Uni and im glad that i concentrated on my studies more than Penis Enlargement, it paid off!

Anyway, in total now i have had a 6month decon break (doing the odd jelq session every other week). I am now looking to start back full time on Penis Enlargement as of asap!

So my question to you all is, what should i go for; length or girth? With having such a long decon break what would be the easiest to gain and see the quickest results? im 7x5. I have always wanted to hit 8" but i want to do whats best as far as results are concerned? also good exercises for your reasoning would be nice.

So, length or girth, any why! What you guys think. Hope you can help and look forward to starting... i cant wait now, so excieted again!!!

cheers

 

[EVO]

im on a decon now (got exams next week ) anyway, when i start back i plan to do 45 mins edging - am, then 30-45 mins jelqing pm, every other day.

i started edging before i decided to decon, and i could tell it was really helping (lots of positive PIs including really hard erections). anyway, more to the point, i think you should have a go at girth. ive seen your pics and your not short by a long way. you actually look alot bigger than 7. so this is why i think you should go for girth

 

[bulc9]

Good Luck in your exams EVO, I did really well, its just a matter of concentrating only of revising and not letting other things distract you. It pays off! If you revise ull pass, its that simple really.

When i took them photos i was really into Penis Enlargement and i was prob 7.75" but i lost my way after that hitting a long period when i could gain and it fucked me up, hence i have not been at it like that for a long time, thats why im back at 7".

I did read a post my BIB i think it was where it stated that if you go girth and you gain, it is then harder to gain the length after it! And the girth gains made will disapear! Think it said get all your length then do grith.

With a 6month decon what gains would come quicker and easier?

 

[jqsderrida]

Divide and conquer. I say work on your length goals first.

 

[Pandora]

Good Luck in your exams EVO, I did really well, its just a matter of concentrating only of revising and not letting other things distract you. It pays off! If you revise ull pass, its that simple really.

When i took them photos i was really into Penis Enlargement and i was prob 7.75" but i lost my way after that hitting a long period when i could gain and it fucked me up, hence i have not been at it like that for a long time, thats why im back at 7".

I did read a post my BIB i think it was where it stated that if you go girth and you gain, it is then harder to gain the length after it! And the girth gains made will disapear! Think it said get all your length then do grith.

With a 6month decon what gains would come quicker and easier?

No disrespect to Bib, But DLD has made gains all this time by combing them both. And plus, Bib says's that he used to ether B.T.B jelqing after every set or jelqing the shaft. Ether way that is a lot of jelqing he did weather it was light or not. Blood is so important to making gains. And the best way to increase blood is girth work.

I used to agree with Bigger and I still do but some times pretty heavy girth work is needed to remove plaque and to insure good bloodflow.

Redzulu2003 still made length gains. Maybe us Brits where meant to have the Fat dicks lol

 

[bulc9]

So a combination of both would do no harm!

I was thinking of: Stretch and Jelq? Stretching exercises - Manual stretches, DLD blasters and Reverse DLD Blasters then jelq later on?

Or clamping? I duno, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words], but ive done that. bit confused what to do now lol.

My dick is nowhere near as fat a RED's so im a bit off from that yet lol. Would my dick be more pliable for length after a 6month decon.. = quick newbie gains again????

 

[Pandora]

Girth first, or do girth length girth . I can't say weather it will hurt or not, but they are all unproven facts and personal peoples opinions from their personal training experience.

Irregardless tho Bib still did god knows how many sets a day he hung and he has said that he did B.T.B jelqing and maybe some jelqing of the shaft after almost every set or every set. That has got to amount to some type of girth work. that has to be a least 1 hour of jelqing or more.

 

[Pandora]

Chuck some Sock stretches in their too and that sounds good but do girth first.

 

[jqsderrida]

It depends on how difficult it is for you to gain length. Jelqing stresses the tunica and can lead to a permanent toughening of the collagenous structures which compose it. Additionally, if you have only a minimal set of time to dedicate, each day, to Penis Enlargement, I would suggest allocating the lionshare, if not the entirity of your Penis Enlargement time to one pursuit. That is, in lieu of doing both length and girth work in a half-assed manner, pursue one with all the vigor and energy at your possession. I must still respectfully disagree with Pandora ( ) and advise you to work on gaining length first.

 

[Pandora]

It depends on how difficult it is for you to gain length. Jelqing stresses the tunica and can lead to a permanent toughening of the collagenous structures which compose it. Additionally, if you have only a minimal set of time to dedicate, each day, to Penis Enlargement, I would suggest allocating the lionshare, if not the entirity of your Penis Enlargement time to one pursuit. That is, in lieu of doing both length and girth work in a half-assed manner, pursue one with all the vigor and energy at your possession. I must still respectfully disagree with Pandora ( ) and advise you to work on gaining length first.

I totally totally respectful lol disagree with you. You ain't going no where with out the increase of blood flow, ask Bib he will tell you.


But I supposed your gonna say oh well where in a new era vacuum hanging.

Trust me I have done it, length work by itself does not work period your sex drive will go down along with your erections. If your doing manual don't listen to him, He is still getting good erection because he is vacuum hanging.

 

[jqsderrida]

Whats vacuum hanging got to do with it?

 

[Pandora]

It depends on how difficult it is for you to gain length. Jelqing stresses the tunica and can lead to a permanent toughening of the collagenous structures which compose it. Additionally, if you have only a minimal set of time to dedicate, each day, to Penis Enlargement, I would suggest allocating the lionshare, if not the entirity of your Penis Enlargement time to one pursuit. That is, in lieu of doing both length and girth work in a half-assed manner, pursue one with all the vigor and energy at your possession. I must still respectfully disagree with Pandora ( ) and advise you to work on gaining length first.

By the way what do you think that vacuum hanger is doing to the matrix :yes:

 

[Pandora]

Whats vacuum hanging got to do with it?

I thought you where intelligent, I don't have to tell you do I.

 

[goinfor11x7]

I would go back to a basic jelqing routine. That's what I'm doing and I've been at P.E. for 3 2/3 years.

One other tip. Focus on whichever (girth or length) has given you the best gains in the past. Some of us are natural girth gainers, others length gainers. Go with mother nature.

I agree with Pandora that you have to get as much blood as you can in your stick. This only makes sense. Hanging or stretching, without the jelqing, edging and kegeling, will knock out your solid woodies--guaranteed.

Just my experience.

 

[jqsderrida]

To me, hanging is hanging. Undoubtedly there exists a difference in the method in which the hanger is attached and how long one may comfortably wear the hanger. Yet, all the same, growth is promoted in hanging the same way, irrespective of whether its a vice hanger, a vacuum hanger or a piece of shit hanger. Am I wrong?

 

[Pandora]

I would go back to a basic jelqing routine. That's what I'm doing and I've been at P.E. for 3 2/3 years.
One other tip. Focus on whichever (girth or length) has given you the best gains in the past. Some of us are natural girth gainers, others length gainers. Go with mother nature.

I think that you need to make it clear that blood work should be done here, kinda confuses me thinking that you are saying to just do one here. When you are not really saying that.

 

[goinfor11x7]

BTW, it was German Stallion, who's been at it longer than I have, who suggested the basic jelq as a remedy for my situation.

 

[jqsderrida]

I just dropped the question over at the Bib forum. We'll see what he has to say. Bib's Hangers :: View topic - Jelqing and Hanging

 

[Pandora]

To me, hanging is hanging. Undoubtedly there exists a difference in the method in which the hanger is attached and how long one may comfortably wear the hanger. Yet, all the same, growth is promoted in hanging the same way, irrespective of whether its a vice hanger, a vacuum hanger or a piece of shit hanger. Am I wrong?

Yeah totally wrong, Vacuum hanging draws blood into the penis, After a Vice hanging set the penis may retract and all blood flow be lost, gone, disappear you get the idea. So you have to jelq the blood back into the penis, the same would apply to manual stretching, say after an hour or so of continues stretching maybe even more than that, you get the picture right:yes: because your clamping the penis off like a vice hanger.

 

[goinfor11x7]

I think that you need to make it clear that blood work should be done here, kinda confuses me thinking that you are saying to just do one here. When you are not really saying that.

I guess by "blood work" I do mean just jelqing--and at no more than 50%. This was my experience and it worked wonders for me--no red spots, no great discoloration, nothing--just fast gains. I recognize, however, that each man has to come to his own best routine, basically through trial and error.

Our man here is a relative newcomer and I'm concerned about his not overdoing it.

If there are other safe exercises that get your dick as full of blood as possible, for example, edging or ballooning, so be it. I always err on the side of not injuring myself. That's why on went off on Derrida, who accused me at one time of leading newbies down the injury path. That has never been my M.O.

 

[jqsderrida]

Yeah totally wrong, Vacuum hanging draws blood into the penis, After a Vice hanging set the penis may retract and all blood flow be lost, gone, disappear you get the idea. So you have to jelq the blood back into the penis, the same would apply to manual stretching, say after an hour or so of continues stretching maybe even more than that, you get the picture right:yes: because your clamping the penis off like a vice hanger.

Ah... Ive never used a vice-hanger before and did not really ever think about the particulars of it. So, then, why doesn't everyone go the vacuum route? What about the relative importance of jelqing following a long [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] or [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] stretching session?

 

[goinfor11x7]

Yeah totally wrong, Vacuum hanging draws blood into the penis, After a Vice hanging set the penis may retract and all blood flow be lost, gone, disappear you get the idea. So you have to jelq the blood back into the penis, the same would apply to manual stretching, say after an hour or so of continues stretching maybe even more than that, you get the picture right:yes: because your clamping the penis off like a vice hanger.

I agree with you absolutely, P. All of this may lead to longer flaccids, but it sure as hell will RAISE hell with your erections.

 

[jqsderrida]

I agree with you absolutely, P. All of this may lead to longer flaccids, but it sure as hell will RAISE hell with your erections.

Well, the purpose of hanging is not really longer flaccids, but, rather, longer and thicker (at least at the base) erections. In fact, (and I know that I am a vac-hanger), I have NEVER had stronger erections in my life than those I have following a good hanging workout (even many vice-hangers state much the same).

 

[Pandora]

I just dropped the question over at the Bib forum. We'll see what he has to say. Bib's Hangers :: View topic - Jelqing and Hanging

I bet you a million dollars he's says he used to jelq after every set, and that with out increased blood flow you will not gain. You see Jqsderrida these are Bib's words I am preaching, these are things I have pick up from him, these are his words.

He will say, one of the reason he did not do girth work when hanging with the bib is because it was to uncomfortable with the bib hanger. Then he will say about it effect the matrix, which don't get me wrong could be totally right.

But what about if you where lucky enough to realize gains from both longitudinal values and lateral values getting technical here, I suppose your killing two birds with one stone lol

I know what DLD preaches lol

 

[jqsderrida]

Well, if they are Bib's words....

 

[Pandora]

I guess by "blood work" I do mean just jelqing--and at no more than 50%. This was my experience and it worked wonders for me--no red spots, no great discoloration, nothing--just fast gains. I recognize, however, that each man has to come to his own best routine, basically through trial and error.

Our man here is a relative newcomer and I'm concerned about his not overdoing it.

If there are other safe exercises that get your dick as full of blood as possible, for example, edging or ballooning, so be it. I always err on the side of not injuring myself. That's why on went off on Derrida, who accused me at one time of leading newbies down the injury path. That has never been my M.O.

No I am not saying that, or we are misunderstanding each other. You agree that both length and blood work should be done together.

 

[Pandora]

Ah... Ive never used a vice-hanger before and did not really ever think about the particulars of it. So, then, why doesn't everyone go the vacuum route? What about the relative importance of jelqing following a long [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] or [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] stretching session?

Same apply s for them I would do before and after to maximize blood flow.

 

[Pandora]

You had to say my name Gosh darn it jqsderrida lol

 

[goinfor11x7]

Chacun a son gout, right Derrida? I wonder if you were doing just the jelq if you would be getting the same woodies. Probably, especially because of your age.

Bulc, do what's best for YOU!! YOU have to determine that. We can't. If I jelq and stretch, I always jelq first because it takes a lot more concentration and energy than stretching.

Here's my pitch for the wet jelq. It is messy, requires great concentration and energy, and is time consuming. The alternatives may very well work just fine, and I must admit that it was adding the stretches to my basic jelq routine that finally kicked my gains into high gear. Would I have reached the fast track without jelqing for three months? I doubt it.

 

[jqsderrida]

Same apply s for them I would do before and after to maximize blood flow.

It seems to me, then, that one of the most efficient things one could do would be to pump before and after hanging a set (or stretching etc.). Perhaps I should further investigate the idea of implementing a pump into my routine.

 

[jqsderrida]

Chacun a son gout, right Derrida? I wonder if you were doing just the jelq if you would be getting the same woodies. Probably, especially because of your age.

Bulc, do what's best for YOU!! YOU have to determine that. We can't. If I jelq and stretch, I always jelq first because it takes a lot more concentration and energy than stretching.

Here's my pitch for the wet jelq. It is messy, requires great concentration and energy, and is time consuming. The alternatives may very well work just fine, and I must admit that it was adding the stretches to my basic jelq routine that finally kicked my gains into high gear. Would I have reached the fast track without jelqing for three months? I doubt it.

To each his own, indeed.

 

[jqsderrida]

You had to say my name Gosh darn it jqsderrida lol

Uhh, sorry, uhh... "Pandora".

 

[goinfor11x7]

No I am not saying that, or we are misunderstanding each other. You agree that both length and blood work should be done together.

Absolutely. I think what I'm saying has a lot to do with where I'm coming from. I gained length and girth with the jelq. I sometimes wonder if I had just kept on jelqing and never added the stetches in my fourth month, if I would have still gained the way I did. Not very scientific, are we?

P.E. is definitely an art, not a science, isn't it??

 

[Pandora]

It seems to me, then, that one of the most efficient things one could do would be to pump before and after hanging a set (or stretching etc.). Perhaps I should further investigate the idea of implementing a pump into my routine.

Go talk to BTC, he will help you their. That is what he does. I don't like pumping myself.

 

[Pandora]

To each his own, indeed.

Everyone to his taste, indeed.

 

[goinfor11x7]

Well, the purpose of hanging is not really longer flaccids, but, rather, longer and thicker (at least at the base) erections. In fact, (and I know that I am a vac-hanger), I have NEVER had stronger erections in my life than those I have following a good hanging workout (even many vice-hangers state much the same).

Go for it, man!! I've had your experience with jelqing and stetching. We're all headed in the same direction, right? We're just taking different paths.

 

[Pandora]

Absolutely. I think what I'm saying has a lot to do with where I'm coming from. I gained length and girth with the jelq. I sometimes wonder if I had just kept on jelqing and never added the stetches in my fourth month, if I would have still gained the way I did. Not very scientific, are we?

P.E. is definitely an art, not a science, isn't it??

Yes and a wonderful Art it is that has been given to us

 

[Pandora]

Uhh, sorry, uhh... "Pandora".

No problem MR.. lol

 

[goinfor11x7]

Amen!!!

rofl

 

[Pandora]

I sound like an old man some days lol maybe I should change my age to 100 or something:yes:

 

[Pandora]

Amen, thank you GOD.

 

[goinfor11x7]

Yes and a wonderful Art it is that has been given to us

I keep forgetting you're only 22. You come across as very wise for such a youngster!!! You remind me of the best of my students!!!

 

[Pandora]

I keep forgetting you're only 22. You come across as very wise for such a youngster!!! You remind me of the best of my students!!!

I have an English exam coming up soon on the Old man and the sea by Ernest Hemingway. I actually never even finished high school and now I go to college. I have a maths exam to, It is kinda hard for me to do both tho cause I am dyslexic. Never would have thought it right, It is funny how things turn out.

Thanks lol

 

[goinfor11x7]

"When you're ready, the teacher will appear." Good luck on your exams.

 

[Pandora]

This is one of the reason why I think Penis Enlargement has some kinda of effect of the human brain. It just crazy, I think Penis Enlargement is much more than just getting a bigger penis

 

[Pandora]

"When you're ready, the teacher will appear." Good luck on your exams.

Thanks hehe

 

[velimirovich]

Jelq... and lots of em, everyday.

 

[bulc9]

lol i woke up this morning to 3 pages of comments was not expecting that haha! Thanks for the input guys.

I have most of the days to Penis Enlargement so i can do whatever really. When i got all my gains, i found length came alot faster than girth! I did the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] consisting of the manual stretches and Jelqs. I believed the combo of them both helped as you all said before.

Am i best going down that route again then? Can you seperate the routine doing Stretches AM and the jelqing PM before i go to bed or is it best to stretch and jelq straight after, or it not matter?

Would this routine be benificial (changes, additions and comments on this are very welcome!) -

AM
> Manual stretches (all directions)
> A-Stretch

PM
> Jelq


Also what is the difference between A-STRETCH and DLD Blasters????? dont get it!

Thanks for all advise, hope you can help out on the above stuff.
PS: Good look in exams as well to you pandora!!!

 

[Pandora]

lol i woke up this morning to 3 pages of comments was not expecting that haha! Thanks for the input guys.

I have most of the days to Penis Enlargement so i can do whatever really. When i got all my gains, i found length came alot faster than girth! I did the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] consisting of the manual stretches and Jelqs. I believed the combo of them both helped as you all said before.

Am i best going down that route again then? Can you seperate the routine doing Stretches AM and the jelqing PM before i go to bed or is it best to stretch and jelq straight after, or it not matter?

Would this routine be benificial (changes, additions and comments on this are very welcome!) -

AM
> Manual stretches (all directions)
> A-Stretch

PM
> Jelq


Also what is the difference between A-STRETCH and DLD Blasters????? dont get it!

Thanks for all advise, hope you can help out on the above stuff.
PS: Good look in exams as well to you pandora!!!

Thanks I don't know the difference myself, but the first thing that came to my mind is maybe A stretch is just the position where Blasters means the kegel then reverse kegel, to reach that max stretch

 

[bulc9]

Yeah i think thats what i have found to be the only difference after looking at the vids n that! ill try mixture of both!

Does the routine seem solid enough provding enough for both the length and the added jelqs for the blood flow?

I did my first set of jelqs before, did 600 at 50-70% erect, and it felt, good. the only change i would make to that routine is im going to jelq AM coz im always horny then lol

Does it matter what you do 1st, and do you have to do them straight after eachother or can you split!