nice job rock

i watched the elliot video...he wasn't kidding when he said easiest lol, but it's definately not so effective considering u burn an average of 100-200 calories per mile, so he advises the guy to keep eating the same way and same amount of calories, mathematically it doesn't seem much of a change

personally for fat loss, i take cues from whenever im studying fitness science and they pay off big time, right now i'm probably less than 6% body fat b/c my stomach is very flat and cut now

there are studies that show HGH & testosterone is highest in the morning, evening, and AFTER certain types of fitness like strength training, sports, HIIT, and sprinting especially. now another study shows HGH and testosterone are especially extremely effective for weight loss, strength training, and gaining muscle(the holy trinity). then to connect that with even another study that shows eating food especially carbs with moderate to high glycemic index will trigger higher than normal insulin activity, which suppresses HGH and testosterone

so to connect the dots timing is crucial for when to eat, so it's best not to eat right after a workout when there is an HGH spike, it's recommended to wait about an hour or so, and of course u want to eat quality nutritionally dense foods and also that are moderate to low on the glycemic scale

i personally intermittent fast about 5 days a week(dinner only), then 2 days i have lunch and dinner, but i never eat breakfast

now also consider i added weightlifting to my overall fitness just last week, and i'm taking it very serious, and so far ive gained very noticeable muscle size
 
k18;742446 said:
nice job rock

i watched the elliot video...he wasn't kidding when he said easiest lol, but it's definately not so effective considering u burn an average of 100-200 calories per mile, so he advises the guy to keep eating the same way and same amount of calories, mathematically it doesn't seem much of a change

personally for fat loss, i take cues from whenever im studying fitness science and they pay off big time, right now i'm probably less than 6% body fat b/c my stomach is very flat and cut now

there are studies that show HGH & testosterone is highest in the morning, evening, and AFTER certain types of fitness like strength training, sports, HIIT, and sprinting especially. now another study shows HGH and testosterone are especially extremely effective for weight loss, strength training, and gaining muscle(the holy trinity). then to connect that with even another study that shows eating food especially carbs with moderate to high glycemic index will trigger higher than normal insulin activity, which suppresses HGH and testosterone

so to connect the dots timing is crucial for when to eat, so it's best not to eat right after a workout when there is an HGH spike, it's recommended to wait about an hour or so, and of course u want to eat quality nutritionally dense foods and also that are moderate to low on the glycemic scale

i personally intermittent fast about 5 days a week(dinner only), then 2 days i have lunch and dinner, but i never eat breakfast

now also consider i added weightlifting to my overall fitness just last week, and i'm taking it very serious, and so far ive gained very noticeable muscle size

Yeah does advise for guys to continue eating the same but remember it is a fitness youtube channel. He is assuming his guys are working out or are atleast at a stable weight. If you are in a downard spiral eating a 1000 calories over what you burn you need to go back and reevalute things. But if you are BSA and youve been at 225 for the past 30 years of your life, creating a 700-800 caloric deficit will make you loose weight. I burn 480 per 4 miles, so if I walk in the morning 1:30 at 4 mph I am burning nearly 700 calories. That alone creates a huge deficit, couple that with a little bit of diet. And I am loosing a pound every 2-3 days, the bad thing is I gain it back with my eating/drinking habits over the weekend.
 
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Love the commitment rocky. I am also dealing with a cold, suppose you gave it to me. Must be that time of year! Here's to health for all in the coming weeks and holiday months ahead.
 
Did a pumping session today.

Went like this:

10 mins, 5hg on the 1.75" diameter tube -- 80% filled
edge 2 mins
10 mins, 7 hg 1.75" diameter tube - 95% filled
edge 2 mins
10 mins, 5hg + 7 hg + 10 hg in intervals in the 1.75" tube - 100% filled
edge 2 mins
10 mins, 7 hg 2" diameter tube - 25% filled (at base)
edge 2 mins
10 mins, 7-10hg 2" diameter tube - 30% filled (at base)
edge 2 mins
10 mins, 7-10hg 2" diameter tube - 35-40% filled (at base)
cock ring 2 hours
10 mins, 5hg 1.75" diameter tube - 110% filled (including glans completely pressed against the walls) I felt the pull, the stretch if I increased the pressure to 10hg but only held it couple of secs

Thats it. I am thinking of doing a pump only month and see what come from that... The 2" tube looked and felt soooooo big, but by the end of the hour it felt like I can get to that size with time. It is not that far...
 
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The immediate gratification from a solid pumping sessions provides the fuel/motivation to upping the intensity and staying consistent...well done :)
 
rocky1243;742656 said:
@DLD its just that BSA secretly hates me lol .


He was plotting to poison you are bring you to a cave in Afghanistan and slowly toucher you to death! He really hates you! :)
 
Big Schwanz Acht;742977 said:
...no Clarice! He covets!

I don't understand why you gotta be like this, I want to be just like you when I grow up.


Today I took it easy with the pumping since I went hard yesterday. I retained a bit of fluid though it was all gone by the next morning.

Did 2 sets, 10 mins 5-7hg pressure. Never hit 10 and filled up the tube to about 85-90%.

I will do a BSA here and go buy the feedback of the pump as far a measuring goes. I wont measure until I fill up the pump 100% in the first ten mins. Last time I measure girth I was at 4.75" mid shaft.
 
rocky1243;742986 said:
I don't understand why you gotta be like this, I want to be just like you when I grow up.


Today I took it easy with the pumping since I went hard yesterday. I retained a bit of fluid though it was all gone by the next morning.

Did 2 sets, 10 mins 5-7hg pressure. Never hit 10 and filled up the tube to about 85-90%.

I will do a BSA here and go buy the feedback of the pump as far a measuring goes. I wont measure until I fill up the pump 100% in the first ten mins. Last time I measure girth I was at 4.75" mid shaft.

What tube are you using? I've never filled mine 100%...the closest I got was to the top of the sticker (past the measuring grid)
 
Big Schwanz Acht;743008 said:
What tube are you using? I've never filled mine 100%...the closest I got was to the top of the sticker (past the measuring grid)

I mean 100% in girth not length. The tube is 1.75" diameter and 9" long. A 1.75" diameter is about 5.5" circumference.
 
rocky1243;743038 said:
I wish... i wish my dick was the size it is in the tube. That would be plenty for me.

Yeah, right!
 
Big Schwanz Acht;743216 said:
I'm curious to see your pump-cylinders...snap a pic
4t7ryd.jpg

Its just a tube nothing special to it... never really understood why people spend $100.00 plus on cylinders maybe theres something I don't know. But I would think properly picking the right size of a tube is more important than brand... Anyways these are cheap and the build quality is solid, better than Leluvs.

Today I was lurking a penis pumping forum looking into routines or ways to maximize the gains from pumping. To my surprise I came a accross a thread by Kingsnake on that forum dated back to 2013 and then on that same thread there were several replies by the head dude on that forum regarding pumping describing his method, I believe his name was prelude99. This dude is in fact huge, perhaps not the most aesthetically pleasing dick but nonetheless if you look at his unpumped photos (which are hard to find) he did grow fairly proportional. Anyhow he did stress the need to use a tube just the right size to do his method called "Overpacking".

Essentially what you do in "overpacking" is pump in a tube where it would take you about 30 mins to fully pack (the girth). Then spend half the amount of time or the same amount of time at a lower pressure in the same tube completely packing it. The idea behind it is that once you pack the tube the stress will start to concentrate on the inner penis and push out the fluids from the skin. That stress in the inner penis is what will cause the penis to grow. I hope I explained that well, I am not entirely sure what he means or what the inner penis truly is. And none of us are scientist, but considering this dude has made insane gains it is worth a try.

So my routine today went like this, this is all using my 1.75" tube:

Edge 2 mins
10 mins 7-10 hg
Edge 2 mins
10 mins 7-10 hg (tube almost fully packed at this point)
Edge 2 mins
10 mins 7-10hg (tube fully packed)
Edge 2 mins
15 mins 5 hg (overpacking)
Cock ring

Thats it
 
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maybe what he's trying to do by overpacking is convert the dermal expansion (what we associate as temporary gains) into tissue gains by virtue of constricting. I could logically see how that makes sense...the very nature of pumping w/air would require a remedy of some kind due to the uneven pressure and lack of density. We gotta have an egg-head scientist on here to perhaps give this 'overpacking' some credence, n'est pas?
 
Big Schwanz Acht;743230 said:
maybe what he's trying to do by overpacking is convert the dermal expansion (what we associate as temporary gains) into tissue gains by virtue of constricting. I could logically see how that makes sense...the very nature of pumping w/air would require a remedy of some kind due to the uneven pressure and lack of density. We gotta have an egg-head scientist on here to perhaps give this 'overpacking' some credence, n'est pas?

I mean the dude has been at it some 10 years or so and has made insane gains so that speaks for itself. I don't fuck with PEGym at all or Thunderfags, but this forum the people are actually friendly and helpful. Some a little gay though... Hopefully this info I reported from "the otherside" is good and can be of use to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words].

By the way I am not too sure about the unevenness of the pressure the dick does seem to expand proportionally filling up the tube simultaneously as it expands on the 1.75" tube. On the larger tube it is very uneven though, it expands at the base and tries to creep up. The size of tube definitely has something to do with it, maybe the tapering of the tube has something to do with it too.

I just wanna be like BSA when I grow up you know.... the old man got like 2 inches on me.

EDIT: I was casually touching macawk and the inner penis is actually pretty stiff and tender.
 
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rocky1243;743229 said:
4t7ryd.jpg

Its just a tube nothing special to it... never really understood why people spend $100.00 plus on cylinders maybe theres something I don't know. But I would think properly picking the right size of a tube is more important than brand... Anyways these are cheap and the build quality is solid, better than Leluvs.

Today I was lurking a penis pumping forum looking into routines or ways to maximize the gains from pumping. To my surprise I came a accross a thread by Kingsnake on that forum dated back to 2013 and then on that same thread there were several replies by the head dude on that forum regarding pumping describing his method, I believe his name was prelude99. This dude is in fact huge, perhaps not the most aesthetically pleasing dick but nonetheless if you look at his unpumped photos (which are hard to find) he did grow fairly proportional. Anyhow he did stress the need to use a tube just the right size to do his method called "Overpacking".

Essentially what you do in "overpacking" is pump in a tube where it would take you about 30 mins to fully pack (the girth). Then spend half the amount of time or the same amount of time at a lower pressure in the same tube completely packing it. The idea behind it is that once you pack the tube the stress will start to concentrate on the inner penis and push out the fluids from the skin. That stress in the inner penis is what will cause the penis to grow. I hope I explained that well, I am not entirely sure what he means or what the inner penis truly is. And none of us are scientist, but considering this dude has made insane gains it is worth a try.

So my routine today went like this, this is all using my 1.75" tube:

Edge 2 mins
10 mins 7-10 hg
Edge 2 mins
10 mins 7-10 hg (tube almost fully packed at this point)
Edge 2 mins
10 mins 7-10hg (tube fully packed)
Edge 2 mins
15 mins 5 hg (overpacking)
Cock ring

Thats it

Killing it as usual Rocky
 
beautiful

i do somewhat a bit of overpacking but only during my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] breaks no more than 1-2 minutes between sets. the low pressure is usually my break. but i would think 30mins of overpacking in a low pressure would probably contribute to girth gains because similar to a cock-ring after a girth session you are prolonging an expanded state.

the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] doesn't have a gauge, but i hold it at about 40% intensity, but i can't say if doing it for a few minutes between sets is enough to cause more gains, i just do it for suction purposes

so far i would attribute my girth gains, EQ gains and skin expansion to the 90%-max intensity routine along with the number of sets, although overpacking sounds like a decent possibility for more gains
 
Today's Routine

First on the 1.75" diameter tube

2 mins edge
15 mins 6-7 hg
2 mins edge
15 mins 6-7 hg
2 mins edge
30 mins 3 hg
2 mins edge
30 mins 3 hg

then I moved up to the 2" diameter tube anf almost fully packed it

2 mins edge
15 mins 5 hg
2 mins edge
15 mins 5 hg
2 mins edge
15 mins 2 hg

Cock ring for dayzzzz
 
hey Rock, just curious...have you ever attempted hanging while inside one of your cylinders and using the suction to stay 'attached'? If someone was able to create an 'anchor-point' on my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] where I could hang some weights, I'd give it a go...I'm imagining those baseball bat donuts/weights but for my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words].
 
Big Schwanz Acht;743461 said:
hey Rock, just curious...have you ever attempted hanging while inside one of your cylinders and using the suction to stay 'attached'? If someone was able to create an 'anchor-point' on my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] where I could hang some weights, I'd give it a go...I'm imagining those baseball bat donuts/weights but for my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words].

I have not tried hanging, I do feel I definitely get enough suction to do it I just wonder how to attach the weights to the tube. Also if you did that idk if you are gripping the "inner penis" or just stretching the skin. Thats why I am not sold on vacuum hangers, I imagine it pulls your dick from the skin instead of truly gripping it as a compression hanger would.
 
rocky1243;743472 said:
I have not tried hanging, I do feel I definitely get enough suction to do it I just wonder how to attach the weights to the tube. Also if you did that idk if you are gripping the "inner penis" or just stretching the skin. Thats why I am not sold on vacuum hangers, I imagine it pulls your dick from the skin instead of truly gripping it as a compression hanger would.

good point, but doing expressive stretches while in the cylinder are essentially the same thing as hanging and I definitely feel an 'inner stretch' doing those
 
Big Schwanz Acht;743474 said:
good point, but doing expressive stretches while in the cylinder are essentially the same thing as hanging and I definitely feel an 'inner stretch' doing those

Gotcha, I milk my tube (pulling it away from the body) to maintain an erection. And I do feel the pull, but I still stand by my opinion. Compression hangers is the way to go.
 
Todays routine:

Used only my 1.75" tube

edge 2 min
15 min 5 hq packed 85%
edge to min
15 min pulse 5-15 hq - tube packed 95% theres some spots I dont think I will ever get to, particularly near the base under part.
edge 2 min
30 min 3 hq (overpacking at this point)
edge to min
15 min 3 hq (still overpacking)
cockring

my eq has just sky rocketed, my expansion feels solid... not as solid as a boner but not too far off and this only comes after the overpacking portion before that it is kinda mushy. Low pressure fully packed tube for longer periods of time is where the magic happens.

I am excited, I can actually see the progress with pumping. So I will do this for a month and report results. Pumping only routine, testing this "Overpacking" theory out in the name of science of course.

My starting measurements as of Friday was 4.75" mid shaft erect girth and 6.125" none bone pressed erect length. I am calling the official start date 10/20/2017 which is where I really started over packing and had my pumping routine down. Lets see what happens in a month!
 
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Todays routine:

Used only my 1.75" tube

edge 2 min
15 min 5 hq packed 85%
edge to min
15 min pulse 5-15 hq - tube packed 95% theres some spots I dont think I will ever get to, particularly near the base under part.
edge 2 min
30 min 3-5 hq (overpacking at this point)
edge to min
30 min 3-5 hq (still overpacking)
cockring
 
Looking really good Rocky! Updates are awesome and some really hard work. I hope to see some incredible numbers in your future.
 
doublelongdaddy;743608 said:
Looking really good Rocky! Updates are awesome and some really hard work. I hope to see some incredible numbers in your future.

Thanks DLD I hope so too, I just want to get bigger than BSA now. It fucking ticks me off that the old man has a bigger dick than me.
 
rocky1243;743681 said:
When I get that 10" nbpel I will go to your nursing home and interrupt your Bingo game day to flaunt it in your face.

your dong would get its own table :)

reminds me of (another) joke

how do you make fifty gray-haired old ladies swear at the same time?

say 'bingo'
 
Today's routine almost the same as yesterday. Fluid retention is going down drastically now, barely any after two hours or so. Making progress!

Todays routine:

Used only my 1.75" tube

edge 2 min
15 min 5 hq packed 85%
edge to min
15 min pulse 5-15 hq - tube packed 95% theres some spots I dont think I will ever get to, particularly near the base under part.
edge 2 min
30 min 3-5 hq (overpacking at this point)
cock ring

Also I saw my journal got stickied in the Routines and Progress section, I must say I was feeling very proud that I finally made it into the history books here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and was chosen by the powers above to be stickied. Then I saw k18's sorry ass was stickied too, and I don't know how I feel about that lol
 
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rocky1243;743706 said:
Today's routine almost the same as yesterday. Fluid retention is going down drastically now, barely any after two hours or so. Making progress!

Todays routine:

Used only my 1.75" tube

edge 2 min
15 min 5 hq packed 85%
edge to min
15 min pulse 5-15 hq - tube packed 95% theres some spots I dont think I will ever get to, particularly near the base under part.
edge 2 min
30 min 3-5 hq (overpacking at this point)
cock ring

Also I saw my journal got stickied in the Routines and Progress section, I must say I was feeling very proud that I finally made it into the history books here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and was chosen by the powers above to be stickied. Then I saw k18's sorry ass was stickied too, and I don't know how I feel about that lol

Be proud man, you got a sticky, only a select few can say that. Could you explain what you mean by overpacking.
 
Lookn4girth;743716 said:
Be proud man, you got a sticky, only a select few can say that. Could you explain what you mean by overpacking.

rocky1243;743229 said:
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Today I was lurking a penis pumping forum looking into routines or ways to maximize the gains from pumping. To my surprise I came a accross a thread by Kingsnake on that forum dated back to 2013 and then on that same thread there were several replies by the head dude on that forum regarding pumping describing his method, I believe his name was prelude99. This dude is in fact huge, perhaps not the most aesthetically pleasing dick but nonetheless if you look at his unpumped photos (which are hard to find) he did grow fairly proportional. Anyhow he did stress the need to use a tube just the right size to do his method called "Overpacking".

Essentially what you do in "overpacking" is pump in a tube where it would take you about 30 mins to fully pack (the girth). Then spend half the amount of time or the same amount of time at a lower pressure in the same tube completely packing it. The idea behind it is that once you pack the tube the stress will start to concentrate on the inner penis and push out the fluids from the skin. That stress in the inner penis is what will cause the penis to grow. I hope I explained that well, I am not entirely sure what he means or what the inner penis truly is. And none of us are scientist, but considering this dude has made insane gains it is worth a try.

Please read through my thread before asking questions.
 
If I am reading correctly you would need a tube that was not too large so that you could fill it and have no room on the sides. I can fill my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]x30[/words] girth wise but it is not packed tight
 
Lookn4girth;743726 said:
If I am reading correctly you would need a tube that was not too large so that you could fill it and have no room on the sides. I can fill my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]x30[/words] girth wise but it is not packed tight

Your dick needs to be touching the walls all around. How long does it take you to pack the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X30[/words]?
 
rocky1243;743728 said:
Your dick needs to be touching the walls all around. How long does it take you to pack the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X30[/words]?

It takes me until the 3rd set
 
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