Yea I saw that in your log you are doing the wet jelqs. I can't do them like that. Gives me some weird sting in my head afterwards, so I use petroleum jelly. It think the jelly helps more, since when water is in the mix you have some degree of shrinkage, or at least I do. GL with your jelqs. I don't look to increase much in girth now since I have little privacy, but when I get my own place again I will hit it a lot harder. I know I can gain from girth exercises. I just don't know that I should before I get to 6.5 or so, but I want to do girth exercises, b/c I enjoy doing them.