Big Schwanz Acht;766530 said:
EQ is the key. Try maintaining as close to 100% erection throughout your entire [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] routine

When I start girth work I'm going to flee from daily masturbation.
 
huge-girth;766606 said:
When I start girth work I'm going to flee from daily masturbation.

Daily? That is too much. Cut back a bit my Brother, all that masturbating is going to work against your eq. Masturbation is a release not a full time job :)
 
doublelongdaddy;766647 said:
Daily? That is too much. Cut back a bit my Brother, all that masturbating is going to work against your eq. Masturbation is a release not a full time job :)

Yes I know that Boss.
 
huge-girth;766787 said:
Yes I know that Boss.

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huge-girth;766897 said:
I will do my best to reduce the rate at which I masturbate

But if you do masturbate, beat that bitch like he owes you something! :)
 
huge-girth;767287 said:
Last night I masturbated twice and got $250 from my little man :cool:

Dan, I made nothing and today I feel guilty as fuck :) Forgive and forget and move the fuck on!
 
doublelongdaddy;767316 said:
Dan, I made nothing and today I feel guilty as fuck :) Forgive and forget and move the fuck on!

I'm glad I don't feel any guilt when I masturbate though.
 
I rarely fap, but had the urge toward the end of my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] session yesterday...it was fantastic! It was a wholly selfish experience that I could enjoy without worrying about my GF's pleasure :)
 
Big Schwanz Acht;767412 said:
I rarely fap, but had the urge toward the end of my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] session yesterday...it was fantastic! It was a wholly selfish experience that I could enjoy without worrying about my GF's pleasure :)

I've been masturbating on a daily due to my stressed state of mind.
 
huge-girth;767440 said:
I've been masturbating on a daily due to my stressed state of mind.

Just be sure to keep it balance!
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Howdy! Same size as I was last time I posted. After some time I became very content with my progress and left it at that since my career and personal life got really busy again, it seems like everybody wants to talk to you sometimes right? Well I'm thinking of doing another routine for length and girth, I want to see if I can get just a bit more. I still have the LM and BM, I believe in the tools but you can see from the thread they can be a bit tough to use sometimes. I'm monitoring the Ultrasound PE tech, I need to piece together the data from it to understand what's really going on.

I don't remember if I left this info in a thread or not, but before I started PE I was about 5.5" x 4.5" I believe. I found some random guide about stretching and jelqing and that got me up to 6.5" x 5", and what I learned here at MOS got me up to 7.5" x 5.5". All BPEL of course, and from about 3 campaigns of PE. I wanna mention that out of gratefulness for the encouragement, because I started out as a pretty average size and ended up, learning from another thread, that I meet the requirements to be in adult entertainment. That wasn't my goal, but hey it's flattering!
 
Thanks for posting and this all sounds good. Do you have any idea what kind of a work out you’re going to create? If you need some help just let me know.
 
I am thinking of LM stretches, I have not gained much length with it yet, which I think is due to inconsistency. I want to focus on length because I think I still have a lot of potential. As far as girth goes, I really agree with SSJ because it helped me go from 5.2" to 5.5" girth in a month. I will definitely be doing that too, but possibly no more. I'm afraid if I try to commit to too many exercises it will make me miss days.
 
I am thinking of LM stretches, I have not gained much length with it yet, which I think is due to inconsistency. I want to focus on length because I think I still have a lot of potential. As far as girth goes, I really agree with SSJ because it helped me go from 5.2" to 5.5" girth in a month. I will definitely be doing that too, but possibly no more. I'm afraid if I try to commit to too many exercises it will make me miss days.

So you should stick length for right now and since you have the lengthmaster and can really make it work for you. If you’re consistent with the LM every single day only doing the newbie routine stretches using the LM will step up your game big time. I also suggest that you do the testicle health massage and stretch and the pelvic floor muscle routine found in the same newbie thread
 
I trust your advice. I will get started on it this week. 3 months from now my weightlifting bulk will end, that will be a good time to assess the results. I've been gaining strength every time I go this season, if only I could make PE length gains everyday!
 
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I trust your advice. I will get started on it this week. 3 months from now my weightlifting bulk will end, that will be a good time to assess the results. I've been gaining strength every time I go this season, if only I could make PE length gains everyday!

❤️ I trust in your success
 
So I just did day 1 of my current routine, I really felt it. Is 90 days a fair chunk of time to see results with LM? I'm trying to use it every day.
 
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So I just did day 1 of my current routine, I really felt it. Is 90 days a fair chunk of time to see results with LM? I'm trying to use it every day.

After three months with the LM if you don’t get at least a half inch somethings wrong
 
Each routine keeps getting more intense. I'm at Day 4 and already gasping for breath at how powerful these stretches are now that I'm both stronger and taking advantage of the leverage capabilities of the LM. My grip strength has improved but thankfully I dont have to rely on it now. My wrapping technique and just the will to believe in PE and do the stretch seem to be most important here. This makes me pretty optimistic.
 
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Each routine keeps getting more intense. I'm at Day 4 and already gasping for breath at how powerful these stretches are now that I'm both stronger and taking advantage of the leverage capabilities of the LM. My grip strength has improved but thankfully I dont have to rely on it now. My wrapping technique and just the will to believe in PE and do the stretch seem to be most important here. This makes me pretty optimistic.

this all sounds awesome!
 
Still going! Will measure after I get further in. Seems like it's making a difference.

Good to hear we have missed you. I can’t wait to hear your measurements and the goals you may have made.
 
Hello again. First I'd like to summarize my PE experience so far:

Before PE, after Puberty:
  • 5.5" x 4.5" Erect Length x Erect Girth (EL taken standing, bone-pressed and dorsal side)

After 1st phase PE, over the course of 6 months sometime after 2010:
  • Basic stretches and Jelqing
  • 6.5" x 5.0" (+1.0" x +0.5")

After 2nd phase PE, February-May 2012 (approximately 3 months):
  • DLD's newbie routine, but skipped girth work in my second month
  • 7.0" x 5.0" (+0.5" x +0.0")

After 3rd phase PE, January-April 2013:
  • DLD's newbie routine, 5x5x3 routine with Penomet water pump
  • 7.5" x 5.2" (+0.5" x +0.2")

After 4th phase PE, February-May 2017:
  • Basic stretches and Jelqing, 5x5x3 routine through May
  • 7.5" x 5.5" (+0.0" x +0.3")
  • This phase continued without permanent gains from June 2017 - July 2018 (an entire year)

After 5th phase PE, October- December 2020:

In summary, half of my gains were before I joined MOS through very unskilled yet consistent application of the basics. The latter half of my gains to this day were from DLD's newbie routine followed by the 5x5x3 routine, with total gains of +2.0" EL x +1.0" EG. The volume difference between my initial size and present size is literally over double the volume, from about 4.4 fl oz to 9.0 fl oz. These efforts took a combined total of approximately 15 months. When you think about it, that's not that much work for such a payoff.

If you were to tell me when I was teenager I would have been this big one day, I would not have believed it at all. I ran these stats through a chart, and found that my starting size was quite average if not slightly below, almost at the top of the bell curve. Today, that chart categorizes me as "abnormally large" and places me in the top 1%. I still don't know if I believe that statistic, but I definitely feel accomplished.

While I have found success through PE, you can see that it has its challenges. Half of my time spent doing PE gave me no results at all. I simplified all these experiences for clarity. I think a major take away is that facing a plateau is brutal for motivation. The girth routine in my fourth phase could not afford any permanent gains, but I made some great temporary gains in girth up to 5.7" (even when edema subsided) and over 8" EL (which went down to 7.5" after an hour or so). Due to on and off challenges with wrapping in my fifth phase, I could not get the Length master to work for me despite the amazing stretches that I got from it. I have always struggled when it came to devices like extenders or the LM, and eventually I gave up because I could not find a solution in the forums, and my efforts turned me up with nothing.


After some recently reflection, I realized how many other things in life I've accomplished. That's why I want to do PE again.
This time I believe that I can reach 8.0" x 6.0". I think this is a reasonable goal to set my sights on. I cemented my past gains, so I have to gain 0.5" x 0.5" to achieve this goal. Yesterday I began the newbie routine again because I at least wanted to do something. But I am not sure what will break through my plateau, because likely my tunica or possibly my mental state had been fighting back. So I welcome any advice the forum has to get me started on the right foot because I am a very much out of practice. And it's great to be back.
 
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Hello again. First I'd like to summarize my PE experience so far:

Before PE, after Puberty:
  • 5.5" x 4.5" Erect Length x Erect Girth (EL taken standing, bone-pressed and dorsal side)

After 1st phase PE, over the course of 6 months sometime after 2010:
  • Basic stretches and Jelqing
  • 6.5" x 5.0" (+1.0" x +0.5")

After 2nd phase PE, February-May 2012 (approximately 3 months):
  • DLD's newbie routine, but skipped girth work in my second month
  • 7.0" x 5.0" (+0.5" x +0.0")

After 3rd phase PE, January-April 2013:
  • DLD's newbie routine, 5x5x3 routine with Penomet water pump
  • 7.5" x 5.2" (+0.5" x +0.2")

After 4th phase PE, February-May 2017:
  • Basic stretches and Jelqing, 5x5x3 routine through May
  • 7.5" x 5.5" (+0.0" x +0.3")
  • This phase continued without permanent gains from June 2017 - July 2018 (an entire year)

After 5th phase PE, October- December 2020:

In summary, half of my gains were before I joined MOS through very unskilled yet consistent application of the basics. The latter half of my gains to this day were from DLD's newbie routine followed by the 5x5x3 routine, with total gains of +2.0" EL x +1.0" EG. The volume difference between my initial size and present size is literally over double the volume, from about 4.4 fl oz to 9.0 fl oz. These efforts took a combined total of approximately 15 months. When you think about it, that's not that much work for such a payoff.

If you were to tell me when I was teenager I would have been this big one day, I would not have believed it at all. I ran these stats through a chart, and found that my starting size was quite average if not slightly below, almost at the top of the bell curve. Today, that chart categorizes me as "abnormally large" and places me in the top 1%. I still don't know if I believe that statistic, but I definitely feel accomplished.

While I have found success through PE, you can see that it has its challenges. Half of my time spent doing PE gave me no results at all. I simplified all these experiences for clarity. I think a major take away is that facing a plateau is brutal for motivation. The girth routine in my fourth phase could not afford any permanent gains, but I made some great temporary gains in girth up to 5.7" (even when edema subsided) and over 8" EL (which went down to 7.5" after an hour or so). Due to on and off challenges with wrapping in my fifth phase, I could not get the Length master to work for me despite the amazing stretches that I got from it. I have always struggled when it came to devices like extenders or the LM, and eventually I gave up because I could not find a solution in the forums, and my efforts turned me up with nothing.


After some recently reflection, I realized how many other things in life I've accomplished. That's why I want to do PE again.
This time I believe that I can reach 8.0" x 6.0". I think this is a reasonable goal to set my sights on. I cemented my past gains, so I have to gain 0.5" x 0.5" to achieve this goal. Yesterday I began the newbie routine again because I at least wanted to do something. But I am not sure what will break through my plateau, because likely my tunica or possibly my mental state had been fighting back. So I welcome any advice the forum has to get me started on the right foot because I am a very much out of practice. And it's great to be back.

Thank you for your input
 
Hello again. First I'd like to summarize my PE experience so far:

Before PE, after Puberty:
  • 5.5" x 4.5" Erect Length x Erect Girth (EL taken standing, bone-pressed and dorsal side)

After 1st phase PE, over the course of 6 months sometime after 2010:
  • Basic stretches and Jelqing
  • 6.5" x 5.0" (+1.0" x +0.5")

After 2nd phase PE, February-May 2012 (approximately 3 months):
  • DLD's newbie routine, but skipped girth work in my second month
  • 7.0" x 5.0" (+0.5" x +0.0")

After 3rd phase PE, January-April 2013:
  • DLD's newbie routine, 5x5x3 routine with Penomet water pump
  • 7.5" x 5.2" (+0.5" x +0.2")

After 4th phase PE, February-May 2017:
  • Basic stretches and Jelqing, 5x5x3 routine through May
  • 7.5" x 5.5" (+0.0" x +0.3")
  • This phase continued without permanent gains from June 2017 - July 2018 (an entire year)

After 5th phase PE, October- December 2020:

In summary, half of my gains were before I joined MOS through very unskilled yet consistent application of the basics. The latter half of my gains to this day were from DLD's newbie routine followed by the 5x5x3 routine, with total gains of +2.0" EL x +1.0" EG. The volume difference between my initial size and present size is literally over double the volume, from about 4.4 fl oz to 9.0 fl oz. These efforts took a combined total of approximately 15 months. When you think about it, that's not that much work for such a payoff.

If you were to tell me when I was teenager I would have been this big one day, I would not have believed it at all. I ran these stats through a chart, and found that my starting size was quite average if not slightly below, almost at the top of the bell curve. Today, that chart categorizes me as "abnormally large" and places me in the top 1%. I still don't know if I believe that statistic, but I definitely feel accomplished.

While I have found success through PE, you can see that it has its challenges. Half of my time spent doing PE gave me no results at all. I simplified all these experiences for clarity. I think a major take away is that facing a plateau is brutal for motivation. The girth routine in my fourth phase could not afford any permanent gains, but I made some great temporary gains in girth up to 5.7" (even when edema subsided) and over 8" EL (which went down to 7.5" after an hour or so). Due to on and off challenges with wrapping in my fifth phase, I could not get the Length master to work for me despite the amazing stretches that I got from it. I have always struggled when it came to devices like extenders or the LM, and eventually I gave up because I could not find a solution in the forums, and my efforts turned me up with nothing.


After some recently reflection, I realized how many other things in life I've accomplished. That's why I want to do PE again.
This time I believe that I can reach 8.0" x 6.0". I think this is a reasonable goal to set my sights on. I cemented my past gains, so I have to gain 0.5" x 0.5" to achieve this goal. Yesterday I began the newbie routine again because I at least wanted to do something. But I am not sure what will break through my plateau, because likely my tunica or possibly my mental state had been fighting back. So I welcome any advice the forum has to get me started on the right foot because I am a very much out of practice. And it's great to be back.
Awesome to here your journey and your plan for the future. Why didn't lengthmaster work for you? Because I believe if you master the lengthmaster, you will get to your goal the fastest.
 
Awesome to here your journey and your plan for the future. Why didn't lengthmaster work for you? Because I believe if you master the lengthmaster, you will get to your goal the fastest.

It could be a number of reasons. First, my technique may not have been sufficient, but considering how intense it felt I doubt that. Second, I think my workouts were not consistent or not enough total effort. This I think is quite possible because my struggles with wrapping made me lose a lot of sets in a given week. Third, I may have done everything right but I am too resistant to gains. This is plausible, but I kind of doubt this because I've never attributed any length gains to the kind of expressive stretch you get from LM. I figure that there is a lot potential in it as many of told me and have proven its power. Probably more than enough potential.

If LM is the gold standard for my situation, I can consider that for length. The wrapping situation needs a fix if I go that route, or just get better knowledge of the device period.
I am also interested in Ultrasound PE, but there's a lot of data and I cant simplify the approach in my head to know how to gain with it by taking advantage of thermoelasticity.

Not sure what girth work I should do but 5x5x3 is awesome. But hydropumps stopped working for me because I couldnt expand due to my curve. Pumping eventually had to end because the glans would press hard against the wall no matter how I wore it, so I released pressure before I could max out. If this had not been a problem, I might have reached my goal back then because I was dominating the bathmate and was going to have to upgrade to the largest size. I dont know what my alternatives are in girth work. But I'd love to solve this pump problem and do 5x5x3 again if that's the best.
 
It could be a number of reasons. First, my technique may not have been sufficient, but considering how intense it felt I doubt that. Second, I think my workouts were not consistent or not enough total effort. This I think is quite possible because my struggles with wrapping made me lose a lot of sets in a given week. Third, I may have done everything right but I am too resistant to gains. This is plausible, but I kind of doubt this because I've never attributed any length gains to the kind of expressive stretch you get from LM. I figure that there is a lot potential in it as many of told me and have proven its power. Probably more than enough potential.

If LM is the gold standard for my situation, I can consider that for length. The wrapping situation needs a fix if I go that route, or just get better knowledge of the device period.
I am also interested in Ultrasound PE, but there's a lot of data and I cant simplify the approach in my head to know how to gain with it by taking advantage of thermoelasticity.

Not sure what girth work I should do but 5x5x3 is awesome. But hydropumps stopped working for me because I couldnt expand due to my curve. Pumping eventually had to end because the glans would press hard against the wall no matter how I wore it, so I released pressure before I could max out. If this had not been a problem, I might have reached my goal back then because I was dominating the bathmate and was going to have to upgrade to the largest size. I dont know what my alternatives are in girth work. But I'd love to solve this pump problem and do 5x5x3 again if that's the best.

Okey. I missed it. You didn't get the wrap to work I see now. I have created videos regarding this, because I struggled a lot with this as well in the beginning. I think these videos can help you to get inspiration for something that can work for you.
If you are interested here is the thread:
🔗 SIM's videos and instructions. The key is to never give up. If you keep at it, you will master the lengthmaster and the wrapping. When you master the legendary lengthmaster you will forever be happy. 😊

Third, I may have done everything right but I am too resistant to gains. This is plausible, but I kind of doubt this because I've never attributed any length gains to the kind of expressive stretch you get from LM. I figure that there is a lot potential in it as many of told me and have proven its power. Probably more than enough potential.
I don't believe this is the case, not plausibel at all that you are too resistant to gain. What I discovered for myself is that, I need to constantly increase the intensity in my stretches. This have made me gain like crazy. Simplification, when stretching with LENGTHMASTER, Power Assist or "just" your hands you need enough intensity to gain. This is also true for girthwork. If you do not have enough pressure in your pump and in your Slow Squash Jelq's, you will not gain as fast, or not at all (permanent gains). Temporary gains leads to, permanent gains over time as the tissue/tunica expands and elongate over and over...until it's permanent gains.

Remember you need to force the tissue to become elongate (and then heal elongated, according to SRT) so the tissue create new cells through cell division. Loose stretching will not make you gain as fast. Bundled stretches ARE superior since you deform and create more tension/stretching, in the tissue to elongate.

I even resently bled from my glans due to overpressure from bundled stretches behind the cheeks with LENGTHMASTER 3. It was good, since I now know where the limit is at. When we do not gain we need to look at our Logbook, and evaluate what is going on, and from the data figure out why we are not gaining. If you follow 🔗 SRT you should gain.

Do you always keep your penis elongted during the day, with an ADS, elongation wrap or sleeve? It's super important.

Have you checked out the MityVac pump system that MOS SHOP are selling? I think that can be something for you.


Ultrasound PE
What is this?

Otherwise the MOS-RED is a game changer to get the tissue soft and pliable, your tissue will heal faster as well.

A hack for you: Always stretch with a balaclava on your head, this will give you focus and the right mindset to keep the routine going no matter what's going on in your life. When the balaclava get put on, there is full focus on the PE. That's right I'm serious about this "strange" mindset hack. 🙂

Take care brother. With the support from the brotherhood, you will get those last gains.
 
Thank you, you made a lot of good points. I will consider getting the LM3 soon and really wrap correctly. Do you recommend I stick with any particular routine if I could do one a day?

Another aspect I think I overlooked. In my first and second phases, I used an electric blanket to warm up and warm down. Reading through some other progress threads, I realize this may me a contributing factor in my lack of success to get permanent gains. All of my length gains involved warmth. I can consider MOS-RED or Ultrasound instead as heating tools. Whatever I choose, I need to consider when and how I use them to best support my gains.

I am not sure yet how I can overcome the struggle with bathmate to continue doing 5x5x3. Hopefully the LM will change my curvature. The only pumps I know that can be customized to be curved are air pumps. If temporary gains really are indicative, I was on the precipe of getting great results before I failed to max out every day.
 
Thank you, you made a lot of good points. I will consider getting the LM3 soon and really wrap correctly. Do you recommend I stick with any particular routine if I could do one a day?
Your welcome. I recommend you stick with 2-3 times (20 min per time) per day of stretching with LENGTHMASTER 3. I'm doing right now, 3 days on and 1 day rest. That works for me. To do everything in one session will be to hard on your penis.

MOS-RED is really good. After you use it on your penis for 15 minutes it will hang more. The decrease in healing time is insane. I couldn't do the intensity I'm doing without MOS-RED. I'm using a car interior heater for my warmups and MOS-RED for warm down. To keep your tissue warm and pliable is really important for fast gains.

Why not get the MityVac instead, you can both pump with air and water with it.
The LENGTHMASTER 3 have not changed my curvature. But you can sttetch in a way to counteract your curvature. If you have a banana bend to your penis you should not change that.

Here are some video threads about the exercises you can do:

🔗 All Length Master Exercises Videos by hugh-girth.

🔗 LengthMaster Videos by Lightning.

🔗 SIM's videos and instructions by squirt_inducer_man.

Kind regards.
 
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Awesome. Yes, it's a natural banana-like curve. I don't want to get rid of it, rather I want it to not get in the way.

What are your thoughts on silisleeve or durasleeve for SRT, or even in wrapping before using LM? Is ACE wrap still what people prefer in both? Because I dread that stuff, even the more comfortable brands. It'd be great to just roll on a silisleeve after a workout if that is good enough to heal in an elongated state. But for the LM i just need it to have a comfortable grip to pull as hard as possible without it slipping the way my wrapping did before.

Once I have in mind how I will wrap and prevent turtling, I will figure out my warmups and get a LM. Perhaps I should go for length first and get a hardcore girth routine after that.
 
Awesome. Yes, it's a natural banana-like curve. I don't want to get rid of it, rather I want it to not get in the way.

What are your thoughts on silisleeve or durasleeve for SRT, or even in wrapping before using LM? Is ACE wrap still what people prefer in both? Because I dread that stuff, even the more comfortable brands. It'd be great to just roll on a silisleeve after a workout if that is good enough to heal in an elongated state. But for the LM i just need it to have a comfortable grip to pull as hard as possible without it slipping the way my wrapping did before.

Once I have in mind how I will wrap and prevent turtling, I will figure out my warmups and get a LM. Perhaps I should go for length first and get a hardcore girth routine after that.

Here is how I'm doing it all. You can either use a penis elongation wrap, ADS or sleeve for elongation. My wrapping technique is in the thread I posted a link to before. The link below in this text.

You need to scroll down a bit to find it.
Length first and then girth is a good approach.
 
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Here is how I'm doing it all. You can either use a penis elongation wrap, ADS or sleeve for elongation. My wrapping technique is in the thread I posted a link to before. The link below in this text.


You need to scroll down a bit to find it.
Length first and then girth is a good approach.
Always length first as stretching after girth makes it impossible
 
Do you use the comfort insert, in your Bathmate pump?
Yes I did. I was able to avoid testicles getting in the way and other discomforts. But the issue is that edema got so intense about halfway through the set that the glans would press up against the front of the pump's wall, and the pressure would be unbearable. When I was reading about the sleeves for SRT, I did see that there are capped sleeves that are described to prevent edema when using a pump. If that works, then I should be able to expand more evenly and avoid the donut that was disrupting my expansion to the end of the tube.

I may consider getting such a capped sleeve when I start working on girth. I do have to get a Bathmate again, I will likely go with Xtreme9 or Xtreme11 depending on how I do with my exercises in the next 6+ months.
 
Yes I did. I was able to avoid testicles getting in the way and other discomforts. But the issue is that edema got so intense about halfway through the set that the glans would press up against the front of the pump's wall, and the pressure would be unbearable. When I was reading about the sleeves for SRT, I did see that there are capped sleeves that are described to prevent edema when using a pump. If that works, then I should be able to expand more evenly and avoid the donut that was disrupting my expansion to the end of the tube.

I may consider getting such a capped sleeve when I start working on girth. I do have to get a Bathmate again, I will likely go with Xtreme9 or Xtreme11 depending on how I do with my exercises in the next 6+ months.
I used a small strip of bandage winded around the base of my penis. This worked to prevent the mushroom shape, and my penis expanded more evenly. I could not use the comfort insert since I expand to much in girth when pumping.

You could probably cut up a really small sleeve to have at your base when pumping.

Do you mean that your pump was to short?
 
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