.....errrrrrr I WASN'T going to say anything else past what i have already posted before all this BUT... damn i'm getting my head all beant out of shape with this one right here.

Dawg...this shit is very very simple. KISS= Keep It Simple Stupid ( sorry for the Stupid part but hey, it's how the saying goes ok? )

- This shit works Penis EnlargementRIOD.

- This shit takes time, patience, dedication, positive nature, research and MOTIVATION. ( The motivation part i think you got covered because of the size right ? )

- This shit requires you to, beforehand, accept that it may take anywhere betwin 6 months to 6 years for you to get to your self-designated goal.

- This shit will bring you to as far as your own will-power will take you. No further and no less. You dictate your own results as it is you who decides to skip a workout or not. TIP: DO NOT MISS WORKOUTS EVER cause that will bring the fault apon yourself. Do the exercises and be faithfull to yourself. If you fail to do them, then you fail your expectations.

- This shit is to be perceived as a FUTURE bonus and NOT and imediate one. It does NOT work that way. Set small incremental goals for the short-term ( 6 months ) midd-term goals ( 1 year ) and longterm goals (1 to 5 or 30 years ) Work through the goals, gather the small gains one by one and IT WILL ADD ALL UP UN THE END.

Be safe, research, read read read, use the search funtion, ask, count on our help, BE POSITIVE and be a man goddamit, you WILL BE WHERE YOU WANT TO BE SIZEWISE if you want it and IF you do something about it.

Also, please stop talking about suicide or whatever dude cause that shit WON'T HELP you or us.

Go newbie routine until it no longer gives gains end evolve from there. In 6 months you have the ability to be anywhere betwin 6 and 7" so START RIGHT NOW ( unless you are at your aunt's house sorrounded by family of course :D )

Peace

Mike
 
chicks are definitely shady. One chick in college used to always rip on her "best friend" on how he had a needle dick. 11 yrs later, he's a dentist and the bitch is married to him.
also, one of my buddies had the biggest dong in High School and his girl would cheat ALL the time. He would actually cry about the whore. No method to the madness man.
You're real young though so at least you found this early.
 
Bib went from what?! 6 to 10.5 in 2 years!! Something like that. That's just fucking amazing if you ask me
 
I can't blame anyone for feeling bad about themselves for having a small penis as I would probably be upset also. I've known guys that are small and get tons of ass man, girls really don't care about that shit. It's more about "connection" than anything physical with women. If someone made fun of my penis size (and meant it, not as one of those guy joke things) I would seriously reprimand them and probably kick some ass while I was making them look like an idiot through intelligent conversation.

Let's use an example. Let's say this asshat frat boy has a 9x6 and he's around parading it all the time and starts hitting on my girlfriend. If he ever said anything along the lines of "well my penis is definitely bigger than his" then it would be an automatic ass kicking, and a nice "stomp" on the ol' package. That'd put him in his place with his broken dick. That fucker then has nothing to brag about, and he will for sure feel like shit for a while because he would have lost his most prized possession (people shouldn't covet physical properties, but whatever.)

Seriously, don't be afraid to kick some ass. Don't be afraid to woo their girl and fuck her behind his back, that is the ultimate pay back, as it proves in his mind that YOU are more of a man than he is because you could pick her up AND you have a "smaller penis" (how would they know, you're flaccid dude) than him.

However, you could just take the totally non-egotistical spiritual approach and laugh at him, then pity him for coveting physical things, as we lose everything physical when we die.
 
Reber187 said:
"Now, I could see making fun of someone because they are fat. After all, you aren't born fat, and it's something that is always changable. I could see making fun of someone that is ugly, after all, if you groom yourself, you would be presentable. But.. making fun of, and making jokes over something that nobody has control over...? That is just... stupid."

by your very hands, with the above comment you've rendered this thread redundant in my viewpoint.

Well, I meant something we don't initially have control over. Sure penis enlargement works (or so you guys say) but that doesn't mean we could choose to have a big penis from the git-go when we were born
 
Your pretty much wrong about the part where you say people don't make fun of mentally challenged people. My brother is mentally challenged and growing up with him was very clear that there are a lot more assholes out there than what you think. People do make fun of the mentally challenged of course there not going to let everybody know about, nobody wants to be labeled as the person who made fun of the retarded kid. So you don't really know what your talking about...
 
misterious said:
Well, I meant something we don't initially have control over. Sure penis enlargement works (or so you guys say) but that doesn't mean we could choose to have a big penis from the git-go when we were born

fair do's.


keep pushing
 
Hello misterious. Dude I feel your pain, but i want to offer you some hope. First off I started pe a lot smaller than you. 3 3/4 nbp...4 1/2 bp. I tried pe for almost 2 years and gained nothing. Yeah frustrating I know. Before MOS i joined several sites and chatrooms. I remember one in particular. I was desperately seeking advice. There was a member there who happened to be a mod at a well known pe forum that i won't name. The member thought my case was funny and would taunt and pick until he would get the whole room typing lol and crap like that. Just prior to this my wife divorced me for a more adequate lover. (No I don't blame her) I was driven to the point that i didn't feel that I could go on anymore. Like you I didn't even care to live. I sat there one night with a loaded gun desperately reaching out for the last time.

Someone in this thread mentioned YGUY. YGUY happened to log into that room that night. I had heard of him but had never had the opportunity to chat with him. When he figured out what was going on with the jerks in the room he came to my rescue. He literally saved my life that night. He led me to �other forum� place where I read all of his posts and how he started small but had great success. About this time I met DLD. I pestered the crap out of him for a few weeks as i was still not gaining anything at this point. Slowly DLD got me to trust him. He made me believe that even with all the time i had invested in pe that i could still grow and achieve my goals. Hell I only had a goal of at least getting up to 6 inches so i wouldn't feel like the freak anymore. Ask D. bro if you can't believe me, he reached out his hand to me. He believed in me when I couldn't believe in myself. When I started to trust him (as well as YGUY) I finally saw a little growth. It was only like an 1/8 of an inch or so, but I was excited. You know what... the next week there was another 1/8 or so new growth. By about the third month I had gained way over 2 inches.

I said all that to get you to understand that you are not alone. Dude somebody cares. Can you just make me one tiny promise for now? Just trust me. I won't laugh,, i won't hurt you, if you'll take my hand together we can get this monkey off of your back once and for all. DEAL????? I have faith in you.
 
misterious,

I think you're either a phony or downright stupid. Your length (5.3) isnt much less than my current measurement (5.8 BPenis EnlargementL) and I've started to bang chicks way more regularly. Despite my invented mental stories of being rejected due to my size, it's never actually happened; and I've realized I can give most women G-spot orgasms just fine.

As for your girth, it's a bit below average, but you have to realize that there are even ���� stars (take that MILF hunter guy, for instance) who are only 0.5" to 0.7" more than you in circumference (which translates to only about 0.2" in diameter). You're making mountains out of molehills... or vice versa.

Also realize that you're living during the most exciting time for humanity: where we're moving to a more open, capitalistic society where medical & technological breakthroughs are effectively making money more powerful every day. Ideally, money should be the sole token that represents and standardizes all efforts, productivity, goods & services.
It won't be long before you can practically buy your way to whatever size you wish (think about the long-ago inventions of the artificial heart, limb extension surgery, etc.). If you don't see your work in Penis Enlargement as being fruitful, persevere in something else instead, which other people aren't as good at. Make sure you get paid serious bank for it, and you can exchange all your current efforts for your future-lover's ideal size later. If you're so worried about your current size... think of it as just that, a medical condition which hasn't been cured yet.

Until then, there are a lot of things in life more important than sex. If you really cant find a partner (for whatever reason), there are tons of cool things you can accomplish with your life when you dont have to worry about pleasing/supporting other people.
 
C-Guy said:
Hello misterious. Dude I feel your pain, but i want to offer you some hope. First off I started pe a lot smaller than you. 3 3/4 nbp...4 1/2 bp. I tried pe for almost 2 years and gained nothing. Yeah frustrating I know. Before MOS i joined several sites and chatrooms. I remember one in particular. I was desperately seeking advice. There was a member there who happened to be a mod at a well known pe forum that i won't name. The member thought my case was funny and would taunt and pick until he would get the whole room typing lol and crap like that. Just prior to this my wife divorced me for a more adequate lover. (No I don't blame her) I was driven to the point that i didn't feel that I could go on anymore. Like you I didn't even care to live. I sat there one night with a loaded gun desperately reaching out for the last time.

Someone in this thread mentioned YGUY. YGUY happened to log into that room that night. I had heard of him but had never had the opportunity to chat with him. When he figured out what was going on with the jerks in the room he came to my rescue. He literally saved my life that night. He led me to �other forum� place where I read all of his posts and how he started small but had great success. About this time I met DLD. I pestered the crap out of him for a few weeks as i was still not gaining anything at this point. Slowly DLD got me to trust him. He made me believe that even with all the time i had invested in pe that i could still grow and achieve my goals. Hell I only had a goal of at least getting up to 6 inches so i wouldn't feel like the freak anymore. Ask D. bro if you can't believe me, he reached out his hand to me. He believed in me when I couldn't believe in myself. When I started to trust him (as well as YGUY) I finally saw a little growth. It was only like an 1/8 of an inch or so, but I was excited. You know what... the next week there was another 1/8 or so new growth. By about the third month I had gained way over 2 inches.

I said all that to get you to understand that you are not alone. Dude somebody cares. Can you just make me one tiny promise for now? Just trust me. I won't laugh,, i won't hurt you, if you'll take my hand together we can get this monkey off of your back once and for all. DEAL????? I have faith in you.

thanks man.... I dunno though, it keeps getting to me. On another (non pe-related) forum there was a thread with a video of some martial arts guy that was beating up his students, and someone made a comment saying "its a shame guys are born with small genitals and do shit like this".

I replied to him saying "it has nothing to do with small genitals, and personally I'd rather have small genitals than a small brain" (lol no not really). And then tons of ppl on that forum jumped on me calling me needledick and dickless and stuff and encouraging me to kill myself "because a small dick guy like you don't belong here". <:( I dunno...

any way back to the thread at hand, you say you started small like me and gained 2 inches?

what routine did you use?

I've tried the newbie routine here and it doesn't seem to work too well for me, I haven't made any gains and I dunno if it's just because I'm doing it wrong, or if because i can't grip onto my dick (huge hands + small dick = bad).

for jelqing I've been basically using only using my thumb and index finger in the shape of a circle gripped around the base of my dick and moving upwards towards the head. I notice in Penis Enlargement videos most guys like use the entire hand, but I can't fit my entire hand on it.. maybe that's why its not working for me?

I was thinking of paying for the pay section of matters of size which I guess has videos and guides on it and stuff (from what I understand)? but problem is I just turned 18 a few months ago and I still live with my parents and if the knew i payed for something like that they would flip! I wanted to try some penis enlargement pills but you have to always order them online, and I'm not usually the one that checks the mail and if my mother found something like "11210 SuperSize Penis Avenue" addressed to my name she'd disown me...
 
misterious said:
thanks man.... I dunno though, it keeps getting to me. On another (non pe-related) forum there was a thread with a video of some martial arts guy that was beating up his students, and someone made a comment saying "its a shame guys are born with small genitals and do shit like this".

I replied to him saying "it has nothing to do with small genitals, and personally I'd rather have small genitals than a small brain" (lol no not really). And then tons of ppl on that forum jumped on me calling me needledick and dickless and stuff and encouraging me to kill myself "because a small dick guy like you don't belong here". <:( I dunno...

any way back to the thread at hand, you say you started small like me and gained 2 inches?

what routine did you use?

I've tried the newbie routine here and it doesn't seem to work too well for me, I haven't made any gains and I dunno if it's just because I'm doing it wrong, or if because i can't grip onto my dick (huge hands + small dick = bad).

for jelqing I've been basically using only using my thumb and index finger in the shape of a circle gripped around the base of my dick and moving upwards towards the head. I notice in Penis Enlargement videos most guys like use the entire hand, but I can't fit my entire hand on it.. maybe that's why its not working for me?

I was thinking of paying for the pay section of matters of size which I guess has videos and guides on it and stuff (from what I understand)? but problem is I just turned 18 a few months ago and I still live with my parents and if the knew i payed for something like that they would flip! I wanted to try some penis enlargement pills but you have to always order them online, and I'm not usually the one that checks the mail and if my mother found something like "11210 SuperSize Penis Avenue" addressed to my name she'd disown me...

Close to 1/4 of those guys probably had a smaller crank than you. Stop worrying about those stupid remarks. The guys who go around bragging about how big they are...aren't even close to being big.
 
misterious said:
thanks man.... I dunno though, it keeps getting to me. On another (non pe-related) forum there was a thread with a video of some martial arts guy that was beating up his students, and someone made a comment saying "its a shame guys are born with small genitals and do shit like this".

I replied to him saying "it has nothing to do with small genitals, and personally I'd rather have small genitals than a small brain" (lol no not really). And then tons of ppl on that forum jumped on me calling me needledick and dickless and stuff and encouraging me to kill myself "because a small dick guy like you don't belong here". <:( I dunno...

any way back to the thread at hand, you say you started small like me and gained 2 inches?

what routine did you use?

I've tried the newbie routine here and it doesn't seem to work too well for me, I haven't made any gains and I dunno if it's just because I'm doing it wrong, or if because i can't grip onto my dick (huge hands + small dick = bad).

for jelqing I've been basically using only using my thumb and index finger in the shape of a circle gripped around the base of my dick and moving upwards towards the head. I notice in Penis Enlargement videos most guys like use the entire hand, but I can't fit my entire hand on it.. maybe that's why its not working for me?

I was thinking of paying for the pay section of matters of size which I guess has videos and guides on it and stuff (from what I understand)? but problem is I just turned 18 a few months ago and I still live with my parents and if the knew i payed for something like that they would flip! I wanted to try some penis enlargement pills but you have to always order them online, and I'm not usually the one that checks the mail and if my mother found something like "11210 SuperSize Penis Avenue" addressed to my name she'd disown me...

^ bump lol

sry I still haaven't figured out how to message people here
 
Misterious!

In my motivational post for you a while back, I said you needed to focus on stretching, and learn how to stretch good. It sounds like that is your main problem!

I suggest either:

filling the head with some blood, and see if that gives you a better grip.
using grip chalk/baby powder
squeezing harder
find the right finger positions
I usually only use my left hand....with the index finger covering the the bottom left side of the head, and the thumb hooking on to the bottom right side of the head....a little hard to explain, but mess around with that, and you will get it. Always try different subtle variations in pressure/tightness with that finger formation! Use your right hand as well to push on your left hand for more power.

You need to aim to feel the 2 side ligs hurting....and then work towards hittin the top one, which is more difficult. You must experiment and train and learn, but you will always be doing something for growth, you'll just keep getting better and better as you practice.

keep us updated. Im cheering you on. You must defeat them.
 
misterious sorry i haven't gotten back to you sooner. unusually swamped at work this week. Take the advice from the above post to heart bro. He is right on track and i agree 100% You asked about how to pm. Try this...scroll to the top of the page.. Click quick link...then click private messages. When it take you to that page just type in the name of the person you want and take it from there. Hit me back either here or in a pm if you like. Take care bro.
C.
 
misterious,

it's also possible that you arent measuring correctly. when i'm at 100%, mine points almost straight up to my chin, and measuring this way gives me my actual EL. if i only measure when it's pointing straight ahead, i'm only at about 75-80% and so my EL is 0.3"-0.4" less. keep this in mind.
 
drkegels said:
misterious,

it's also possible that you arent measuring correctly. when i'm at 100%, mine points almost straight up to my chin, and measuring this way gives me my actual EL. if i only measure when it's pointing straight ahead, i'm only at about 75-80% and so my EL is 0.3"-0.4" less. keep this in mind.

I'm measuring right I think. I usually measure when I'm jacking off that way I'm maximum aroused. I find that the minute I take my eyes off the "action" (hehe) though I start going soft so I have to measure quick....

But yeah it has to be right because it produces the same measurement all the time.. for erect length/girth that is. I get the longest flaccid length after stretching/jelqing but I don't really care about flaccid size.

One thing I dunno if it's normal or not.. someone please reply to this, but: My dick seems kind of "flat" shaped. I mean if I measure the diameter across the top, it's 1.5 inches (erect of course). But if I measure the diameter down the sides, it's only 1 inch. And when I do a "reverse-grip" of my dick like if a girl were to hold it and giving me a handjob I can feel that the top of it feels kind of flat and just doesn't feel right.

This is also bad because condom sites list their sizes in diameter and not circumference so I dunno if my dick is too small to use condoms or not (meaning I won't be able to have sex any way unless I get lucky and find a girl that uses pills/patch lol).

Also 1 other question no one has touched on that I asked earlier ... penis enlargement pills, or "supplements" if that's what you call them. Do they help? Do you recommend them? I can't really buy any until I'm living on my own but if they do help then I'm definitely going to start saving up for them and then when I am living on my own and can order them without shame, then I will have enough money saved up for 2 years supply.
 
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