The Problem with Lig Stretching

hey everyone, this is sort of my theory on lig stretching. and its the reason for some problems, like the saggin skin redzulu talks about, and the reason measuring standing and sitting are different, and has to do with limits on gains.

The diagram will make more sense than my description, and please ignore the shitty ass drawing.

starting at the top left with the initial structure, thats how the average penis will be pre-Penis Enlargement. the red line is the suspensory ligament, and it holds the penis up to the pelvis. this lig is the first to be stretched.

now on the top right we have the same penis after some good lig stretch induced length gains. there is some lengh gain measured straight out (the yellow line). Also notice that the ligs(red) are stretched out onto the shaft. This is acompanied by skin, causeing what redzulu calls the flappy skin. It hides some non-bp length, but is not the same as a fat pad.

Now in the bottom left we have the same penis as in the top right, but angled down. This is like the way __________ always bends his hips forwars, like in a sitting position, exposing more length. when you roll your hips forward or sit, your angle between penis and pelvis changes, the penis is actually angled down. Now when you measure like this, a dick with stretched ligs will have a longer BP length because the ruler is not pressing a different spot on the pelvis, and more penis (that used to be internal) is angled away from the pelvis. The penis could be 8 inches BP in this position, but 7.5 or even 7 in the pic on the top right. Also, the purple lig, which i think is called the fundiform lig. comes into play now.

Now in the bottom right, there has been even more lig stretch, the purple lig has been stretched, and the reds even more. Now the angled measurment is even more, maybe 9 or so, but if measured straight out, it will still be 7-7.5

I hope this makes sense. i will explain more if anyone has questions.

interesting...

Imho, this post is really good, and explains what I believe is happening as the ligaments are being stretched over time. Also seems to offer a good explanation for the turkey neck.

Thanks!

Tripster.

Good post, and sounds about right to me although I admit I dont really know all that much about the ligs set-up.

Good ideas..heres the link to the thread I did years back here at MOS on the flappy skin ''turkey neck'' and creeping hair on the shaft. I think these play a role in tracking our gains. http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70

It is amazing how much easier a concept is to understand when there is a picture. I tried to talk about something similar to this on the peforum years ago and I could not explain it and you have done a beautiful job. I made the analogy of the arm in it's bent position measured from where the top of the forearm to the wrist (for argument sake lets say this measurement is 9") and then extend the arm and make the same measurement and in most cases it will be 1-2" longer.

very good post. it explains why it's easy to gain bp-wise while nbp stays the same

Wow, youve made me have to rethink my whole strategy and I've been in the game for yonks now. Nice work, Ive never had the thoery of the inner penis comming out be explained in such a clear way before.

Nice post and theory... But what to do to gain nbpel standing up then!!!

I have also noticed an incrase in lenght sitting (only 0,2) down while standing up has been about the same..

Yeah, I understand the explanation and drawing as well, but how does one get more useable penis?

in my opinion, the only way to gain that length standing up once you have passed those slight lig gains is standing, is tunica lengthening. The problem is that the tunica is extremely tough, almost all collagen. I dont think that tunica stretches do anything, so I am using a jes-extender, hoping traction will cause tunica growth.

-bigbedu
8X6
my pics http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16319

I have gained well from lig stretches and tunica stretch but it could be from using my home made power assist. I think the way to gain that nbel would be from hard stretching at upward angles and high side to side stretches. my start NBEL was 7 3/8" now 8 1/8" BPel is 8 5/8 standing or laying down. I don't think the tunica is all that hard to stretch, I feel my best stretch during erect stretching.

That drawing is exacly what I was taking about in my thread about between the legs stretching. My point of connection is very high, hense my straight up erections, limiting my flaccid hang. In your drawing, the more the ligs are stretched, the better, or lower, the flaccid hang. Imagine a 6 inch flaccid hang of the external penis in the first drawing as opposed to the last. Same length, but it "hangs" lower from the body, looking much longer.

bigbedu, If you would not mind I would love to redo your illustration. let me know if this is cool? I would also love you to contribute some articles to the archive project.

I don't guess I understand how sitting or standing makes a difference in length... I mean the lig is only so long right? I just went through the motions, and it seems to me that the, if anything, the angle of the pelvis might tilt slightly back when you sit, unless you intentionally roll your hips forward/arch your lower back, which I don't do while measuring. Can anyone clarify that for me please? Sorry if I'm alittle slow on the uptake here.

sure DLD, you can do that

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I have some very good thoughts on this theroy, but I have no time to post them at the moment, because I gotta go to sleep so I can go to work at 10pm. I will come back tommorrow and share.

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Can´t believe I´ve never seen this thread before.

That diagram expains why my ligs are more sore from intense stretching because I squat down(like your about to take a squating shit or like women pee outside) and do my downward stretches in this position. It allows for more force this way too!