Stretching the SEPTUM...MOST important!!

German Stallion said:
Well, I am back and still think that the septum is the one single contributing factor in gaining length. When I started Penis Enlargement, I remember that my septum was much thinner and now it is stronger and thicker. What can we do guys, to get this septum to "give." Sure need your input if you have some ideas. GS
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You even try this yet Stallion http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21406
 
German Stallion said:
Well, I am back and still think that the septum is the one single contributing factor in gaining length. When I started Penis Enlargement, I remember that my septum was much thinner and now it is stronger and thicker. What can we do guys, to get this septum to "give." Sure need your input if you have some ideas. GS
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decondition it
 
I have problems to find my septum. Is it on the underside of the penis?
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
decondition it
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Okay, I am game? What do you suggest? I been at this daily for over 6 years and no luck yet. That does not mean I have not gained, in fact, I have but the septum is what is keeping most of us from getting length. it is just hard to stretch the septum. What do you want me to do to get my septum to be "deconditonded?"
 
I have a question can someone post on how a V stretch should look like?
 
German Stallion said:
Well, I am back and still think that the septum is the one single contributing factor in gaining length. When I started Penis Enlargement, I remember that my septum was much thinner and now it is stronger and thicker. What can we do guys, to get this septum to "give." Sure need your input if you have some ideas. GS
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Hey there G.S.,

I realise I may be a relative newbie with this but I was experimenting the other night with the idea of septum stretching and came up with something (if this has been covered before by someone else, please disregard it). Here goes............
Rather than stretching the septum by pulling it, I was thinking of manipulating it with cranks along the entire length of the penis. I'll explain how I did this in a few (hopefully) simple steps:

1) With the penis totally flaccid, grip it with both hands, both forming an OK-grip. The thumb-sides of both OK-grips must be kept pressed against each other. The idea is to get a very tight grip with both hands so that the emphasis is placed on gripping right down to the septum itself.
2) With the fingers in the OK-grip position, crank both hands in opposite directions making small, but tightly-held circles with the hands. Try to visualise the crank motion working the deeper-lying structure of the septum rather than on any outer layers of the penis (e.g. the tunica or skin). I'd recommend doing this for maybe 50 cranks in each direction.
3) Once you have completed the cranks at one point of the penis, move your hands further along the penis and repeat the double-handed cranking motion at a new point. The idea is to work along the whole penis in increments (or maybe just intensely work 1 portion of it at a time).

I have to be honest here: I'm still sticking to the basic stretching routine and I only stumbled across this method by accident. I'm hoping there are a few battle-hardened veterans out there who are willing to try this out for a sustained period of time to see what the results may be and I might be able to add it to my programme at a later date. Hopefully it will help to make the septum more pliable thereby allowing greater length gains.

If anyone tries this out, I'd greatly appreciate it if you could keep us all informed of your progress on this thread.

Good Luck and Happy Cranking! :)
 
Good post makeadingdong. It's the same basic principle as bundled stretches, which are great at hitting the septum.

We need to focus on scientifically breaking down the septum, though. We CAN put enough force behind a stretch to cause tunica gains, but it's not very efficient. Why do in 2 years what we can do in 6 months? What is the septum exactly? From my understanding it's just collagen cross linkage between areas of the tunica. We need to look into collagen cross linkage, and good ways to break it down. Specifically, breaking down this cross linkage should be a similar process to treating peyronie's if my memory is correct, so we should focus on drugs like porcine relaxin, POTABA, and whatever else is now out.
 
Some great ideas here! Keep brainstorming!
 
makemineadong said:
Hey there G.S.,

I realise I may be a relative newbie with this but I was experimenting the other night with the idea of septum stretching and came up with something (if this has been covered before by someone else, please disregard it). Here goes............
Rather than stretching the septum by pulling it, I was thinking of manipulating it with cranks along the entire length of the penis. I'll explain how I did this in a few (hopefully) simple steps:

1) With the penis totally flaccid, grip it with both hands, both forming an OK-grip. The thumb-sides of both OK-grips must be kept pressed against each other. The idea is to get a very tight grip with both hands so that the emphasis is placed on gripping right down to the septum itself.
2) With the fingers in the OK-grip position, crank both hands in opposite directions making small, but tightly-held circles with the hands. Try to visualise the crank motion working the deeper-lying structure of the septum rather than on any outer layers of the penis (e.g. the tunica or skin). I'd recommend doing this for maybe 50 cranks in each direction.
3) Once you have completed the cranks at one point of the penis, move your hands further along the penis and repeat the double-handed cranking motion at a new point. The idea is to work along the whole penis in increments (or maybe just intensely work 1 portion of it at a time).

I have to be honest here: I'm still sticking to the basic stretching routine and I only stumbled across this method by accident. I'm hoping there are a few battle-hardened veterans out there who are willing to try this out for a sustained period of time to see what the results may be and I might be able to add it to my programme at a later date. Hopefully it will help to make the septum more pliable thereby allowing greater length gains.

If anyone tries this out, I'd greatly appreciate it if you could keep us all informed of your progress on this thread.

Good Luck and Happy Cranking! :)
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Hi..Been doing this for years. Your description was very good, btw. Yes, I am sure this is a good break up for the tunica, but don't think it even touches the septum. The Septum is a tough cord like section in the very center or near center of the penis that when you pull flaccid, you can feel deep in the penis. It is often like a "wire" that stops all stretching. I have never felt like it gave at all. It might and must because I have had gains. But and I say to all of us, this is what is holding back the gains.

As far as using the peyronies exercises for breaking it down...or using peyronies meds...not a go. The septum is not affected by peyronies. The tunica and cC are, but not the septum. The septum is too tough and too internal to have a "break". The meds for peyronies don't work anyway as peyronies victums will tell you.

I am not negative on this, but sure have worked hard to win this battle. It might very well be that the only thing is long time and heavy hanging that will make the septum "give." GS
 
I have a lot of belief that chemical Penis Enlargement can cure this problem. I'm going to do everything in my power to figure this out.
 
To decondition is to take a extended break. I reccomend two months since this has worked for myself and quite a few others. Oh, and by the way, this means NO Penis Enlargement what so ever for the entire two month period..
 
spinner2 said:
I have a lot of belief that chemical Penis Enlargement can cure this problem. I'm going to do everything in my power to figure this out.
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Spinner, you might be right. I do know that none of those drugs, Pabota, Vermalian (spelling is wrong) but it doesn't work either. Many Peyronies victums have tried the injections to get ride of the plaque that has remained with little success. There might be something to help and if you find it....BINGO, we will all be really glad! Keep us informed. GS
 
upp2eightand6 said:
To decondition is to take a extended break. I reccomend two months since this has worked for myself and quite a few others. Oh, and by the way, this means NO Penis Enlargement what so ever for the entire two month period..
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I can't even pee with out doing Penis Enlargement. What you trying to do, kill us! Are you serious, nothing for two months? What does that do? Let you sneak up on it after two months and really pull it hard and hope it gives to your stretching??? GS
 
Well, kind of... The idea is that you will break down connective tissue that has acumulated from all your pulling and that this will allow for new gains again.

Mind you, this is still a fairly untested theme but I am working on it.. I helped quik4life get his very first gains by letting him rest for two months, then designing a VERY light hanging routine for him. Before this he had done Penis Enlargement for about two years without gains. Go figure...;)

Anyway, let me know if you will give it a go! You can find alot to read about this over at �other forum� place. Search for posts by shiver, xenos log, my log (my nick is babbis over there), quik4lifes log, the word "deconditioning" etc...

Good luck!
 
How about DLD's new sock stretches for hitting the septum. It's the only stretch I can actually feel these days & it packs some punch ... just a brainfart LMAO
 
How did u do it then DLD, you went from 6" to 10.5"? there massive gains.

So for people looking for length mainly now, from what i have read on this thread we need to -

> Cum first then stretch after
> do DLD Blasters, A stretch, V stretch?

What about bundled tunica stretches! Confusing me all this, coz new theories come out, but i think this one maybe right as i havent got to 8" STILL!!!!

For people looking for length, what would be the perfect stretching routine for us!

On a note, i did do a hanging session after an orgasm, and i can tell you it was intense, the fatigue was painfull, and i felt worn out after. i duno if that has anything to do with it!

So DLD stretch after a orgasm? and what stretches are best mate??
 
BULC, I don't think DLD went from 6-12". I think his max erection is around 10.5", but I digress.

Deconditioning in my opinion is necessary for those of us who have Penis Enlargemented for more than a year consistenly and with intensity. The reason I include intensity is because after a period of time the tissue HAS to harden because of the amount of stress it receives in most cases on a daily basis. I don't think 2 months is necessary, but I think most guys will know when to resume a routine and when they need more time. I usually look for a tightness in my ligs and tunica for my stretches, and then I look at erection quality and if I have any spots after a girth session. That's pretty simle to follow.

I don't know about stretching the septum, as I think you can target it pretty well by using upper angle stretches that work the tunica.
 
Been keeping up with this thread---way to go guys.

I've been thinking about this a bit and here's my 2 cents--

I think cumming first and then hammering away with the PA--my workout specifically would help with the septum.

I want to add that I have no proof of this at all--I never really thought about the septum to be honest--But I do notice an intense "inner" stretch from my PA workouts--it def. feels like the septum is being stretched out during a focused, intensed PA workout.


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