I have to wait for insurance to approve the surgery, so getting your back fixed is not as easy as one would want or wish. I had 5 blow outs before feeling it because of ho strong my back was. My NS couldn't beleive I was still walking. It took me two years to regain the loss of a third of the muscle mass in my right leg from atrophy. that was 6 years ago.

As for marital problems, well those are a bit more complex, and no I am or was not afraid to have sex. I actually had to start hormone therapy "as result" of quitting having sex. When I "turned off" my feeling for my wife I could still get seven throbbing inches. I just got sick of her freaking head games. It took years of her crap for me to reach that point.

I found out about lower back injuries causing peyronies disease while researching several medical as well as men's health sites during the first couple years AFTER my surgery to make sure there would not be any repurcucions BECAUSE my disc was so bad that I had wrapped the ganglion of nerves that controls, bowel/bladder control, penile function, as well as sciatica. In fact one of the first questions my NS asked me during our first visit was whether or not my soldier could still salute the General. In fact after my surgery He told me he was surprised I was getting erection much less walking. My surgery was an emergency procedure resulting from loss of bladder/bowel control just two months after meeting him.In that small amount of time I lost that muscle mass in my leg. In fact he told me I had been living with the blown disc for years because of the layers of scar tissue he had to go through plus the fact he had to carefully remove disc material away from the nerve roots.

So I don't feel as though I'm talking out my ass when I say that a SEVERE lower back injury can contribute to and or cause the onset of Peyronies Disease. Looking back I did leave out the the fact that it was severe back injuries so sorry to everyone else. Mr German Stallion, I was on hormone therapy as a result of stopping having sex. My test results came back showing my T level was a whopping 17, when the average womans level is that to 26, and the average mans is 900 to 1500. Shoot before all this mine was proabably 2000 or more. Before back surgery the crack of dawn wasn't safe. I'd have done a snake if you held its head down for me and risked it if you didn't. I was ready to fight at the drop of a hat and I didn't care if I was on the sixth level of scaffolding when the blows were ready to be thrown.

I noticed mine a few months back when I had woke up from a nap with pee hard on. Problem was it was sticking straight out 90 degrees from my body. I couldn,t move it down or up without severe pain and also it wasn,t as long as it should be. instead of of pointing at 1:00 with a nice gentle curve upwards it was at 3:00 with bad curve down. Over the next week I carefully worked it so I could move it down but the move up was painful. I quickly started researching and found a site called "Pleased Lovers" that happened to have some free penis enlargement techniques. They also boasted it could help reverse the effects of the onset of Peyronies disease. I started using them carefully and gently started to manipulate myself limber again and after a bit using the techniques for jelqing. I still have a little ways to go but I am starting to gain back the length that was lost, stopped the downward curve so its straight now and hope that kegels, which I used to do before my testosterone level went down, as well as careful manipulation can restore my upward curve.

Thats why I joined this site, to make sure I am doing things right. I ran across this topic and felt I should warn others of what happened to me. Moral of the story, even if having marital problems, keep on spanking the bad monkey, you see I even stopped punishing Richard for being a bad boy as well as stopped having sex. I lost all interest after years of dealing with the wifes hormone problems. Man I tell you when you get teased like that and then dropped, your still horny, your still hot, and for me the brain was the last thing to cool down. I felt I had to do something to protect myself and went tooo far. I nearly lost it.
 
Dan, I don't know what you have and can't say it was or is peyronies. Unless you have damage to the tunica or the CC then you don't have peyronies. If you can feel your flaccid penis and feel a "broken" area where the tissue was damaged and there is scar tissue that you can feel and it is hard or kind of like "knot" then you do have a peyronies issue. It might be a mild case and if that is true then you will get you activity back. True or severe peyronies takes years to overcome. The "plaque" as they call it, forms a "bunch" or area of squishy stuff that causes a severe bend that often takes years and years to work out. I know of few people who are 100 percent cured of peyronies, including me. I have overcome the damage and am sexually active but I have an upward curve that does not change. Scar tissue won't stretch and keeps the upward curve. In the beginning of Peyronies, there is a quarter shaped hard "something" that is under the skin that feels like cartlidge or even boney or whatever. That stuff eventually goes away but the Plaque stays and while it will and can get smaller, it often stay as a lump when you are erect. At the area of damage there is "always" a narrowing where the damage is/was and that area is weak and can easily be bent or fold over.

I get a lot of guys email me or PM me and wonder if they have peyronies. Thankfully, most don't have peyronies but rather have a bend that can be corrected with good Penis Enlargement procedures. GS
 
The upward curve is desirable to most women I have known. Its more comfortable and bends with her. If it's a severe curve...some may find it uncomfortable, especially when dealing with a larger penis. I grew up in a pretty open family situation and my Mom discussed sex with me often when I was a teen. No for those wondering I have never slept with, or touched my mother. Thankfully she left my first step-dad before he could make us do that. Watching what he put her through for 10 years and even snooping in their room and finding polaroids and even 35mm 4x5s I learned at an early age my step-demon was a swinger and put my Mom through it.

However, needless to say I grew up with sort of addiction to sex, because the comings and goings of very goodlooking women and the fact that clothing was optional in the house. Mom told me about my Dad, his abilitiy and told me if I was equipped like him I would never have to worry, and if I was 16 and a freinds Mom took and interest to let it happen that I would learn a lot. It was like she had cast a spell or made a prediction. Luckily I had grown to treat women better than myS-Dad treated my Mom, and better yet listened to what they had to say, wanted, and preferred.

So when this happened to me I wasted no time in finding ways to stop it and more importantly correct it. What I described previously is what I read in a couple Medical sites. Note I had to dig to find the info, and this was 4 maybe 5 years ago. I'll try and find the sources again and send them to you and see what you think. Trouble is I can't sit here as long as I could back then.

I have noticed my base is not as thick as it was and I have lost quite a bit of length. From around 7" or more(depending on how turned onI am) you know how it can vary a 1/4 to 1/2 and inch depending on the level of stimulation, how long you have been going at it etc. I now measure 5" I just want my 7 back. I wont bitch about some extra girth, but I have always been told that if I was any longer I'd be too long, and was long enough that I didn't dare start thrusting hard until my lovers were nice and ready

If what I have going on is Pyronies then it is a mild case, but from what I read before, from more than one source, it is what was described as Pyronies caused by severe back injury/trauma. I think I will find a diffferent signature so as not to mislead others anyway.

Daniel
 
BTW I am thinking about re-registering so my birth name isn,t displayed so when I do I'll post for anyone else interested in this little conversation.

Daniel
 
Well thats better! Now I can cruise incognito and my name ain,t displayed all over the site!

D
 
What do people think about using vacuum erection devices to help straighten out bends? I know that some users on the Peyronie's forum site have claimed they have corrected curvatures using this device (http://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,25.0.html) mind you it's a bit of a read. Do you think such a device could help with correcting congenital/natural curves ?
 
Does someone have a pics. of these peyroines crusty plaques?? I'm curious what they look like or is there a good website of pics of Peryonies plaques.
 
dewey;17678 said:
alter und geschlecht sind zwei meiner lieblingsthemen. Ich habe
einen freund, der f*Âşr vermutlich 55 seiner 65 risse gesurft hat. Er hat
sehr starke beine. Er hat auch ein gesundes masturbationprogramm,
das viel wie mein nat*Âşrliches p.e. Programm ist. Seine aufrichtbare
st*§rke ist sehr high.

translation from english via babelfish.com

hahahahahaah thats hilarious
 
beesting;424966 said:
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3rd letter from beesting; final details to to self BVT applications on penis


Beesting venom linked to arthritis and peyronies freedom
Arthritic disfigurement and peyronies dysfunction are the ´long-term´ result of the body´s immune system deposition of calcium-based plaque in selected parts of the body. The selection process by the immune system is based on keeping the body in a ´State of Well Being´ 24 hours a day. And that if any part of the body fails, will be labeled, ´ a damaged zone.´
If one wishes to visually touch this material, calcium-based plaque (c-patches), one only needs to floss in-between one´s teeth to capture it! It appears the immune system has labeled teeth and gums as a damaged zone, and continually coats them with laminates upon laminates of c-patches 24 hours a day.
My name is beesting (not my real name), and I had peyronies back in 1998 up to 2005 before starting useful treatments of honey bee venom. Yes, I did search the internet back then, many hundreds of man hours and more to no avail. What is most shocking to me today, about the same stuff is still online. Yap, even the penis stretcher continues to be marketed, which is absolutely amazing -- to even think a real certified doctor is selling them to earn a profit!
About 1995 I began working with beekeepers, and soon realized most wear only protective face gear. It took me many months before I would end up practicing beekeeping within full body gear on. I had pains in my hands then, and most of it went away through the years of small scale beekeeping. I stopped keeping bees a few years later. In October 2000, I went to the USA, and got confirmation I had peyronies. Shortly after I began more searches online, but failed to get any useful news, just lots of bulletin chat websites – mostly sponsored by victims of doctors practicing with their needles and implants and fees.
My hands were experiencing pain at times of labor, and I did discover the BVT therapy websites. I was excited about this, for I knew most beekeepers do not suffer from arthritis pains of the hands! I began the business of capturing, feeding, and placing honeybees onto selected parts of my hands, mainly finger joints and thumbs. I had shortly developed an over-dose test on my wrist. Here it is. Inject one bee stinger on center part of wrist, and wait 2 minutes before ´flipping´ out the bee-stinger with one´s finger nail. The wrist will swell up or get red with little soreness the next day. After a few days, repeat same test on top of wrist --but with two bee stingers. The wrist will swell up more and redness going upwards the arm, but next day your connective tissues—mainly muscles will be very sore. This would be considered an over dose in such a small damage zone, if the wrist was with arthritis. If you repeated the test again, but with three honeybee stingers, the pain would be present for several days. Therefore, only apply one honeybee stinger in any one selected part of the body. In other words, be it one finger, one wrist, one knew, one elbow, or penis, apply one bee stinger per 24 hour period, one exceptions!
After some practice with my fingers, on each hand, I became expert at bee stinger injecting. I could easily get the honey bee placed over the selected finger joint, and get a deep insertion. If I failed, and the beestinger went in – say sidewise (one can see the stinger pointing horizontally inside the skin surface), I would use my finger nail and slide it out quickly. This would be considered a failed injection of beestinger, and I would need to wait the next day to repeat the effort in the same finger joint. Remember, one bee sting per 24 hours time frame per selected damage zone of the body.
Well it did not take much of a genius to eventually picture in one´s mind -- a finger is much like a penis of sorts. And in my kitchen, standing alone, I finally captured my stressed penis in hand, and completed my first bee-sting injection. Of course, I jumped about the kitchen. Within 2 minutes, my penis had enough, so I removed bee stringer with my finger nail. Over the next few months, I had made enough mistakes, that I developed these rules.
1. Always apply bee-stinger in the top part of penis, never below shaft. The skin is the thinnest, and the bee-stinger can pass both skin barriers with ease.
2. Never more than one bee-sting application per day, even if you fail to get a deep injection. Failed stingers must be removed pronto, to reduce the immune systems reaction of entering body fluids into the penis.
3. Avoid all besting injections of the penis head, and any surface type blood veins. One honey bee injection of 15 seconds to 2 minutes is enough to treat the entire penis. It takes 25 minutes for a bee-stinger to inject all its venom. Therefore, 2 minutes is only a small portion. Today, I leave bee-stinger in penis 10 minutes or more. But only apply this treatment once a month, as maintenance plan to keep the immune system from adding too many laminates of c-patches throughout my penis.
4. Remember injection of bee stingers are to be targeted only in center, middle of penis shaft. If you wish to add more BVT Treatments to the prostate gland, then you need to inject bee-stingers at the base of the pelvis where the penis enters the body.
In conclusion, it is my best guess that bee venom, itself, coats the c-patches placed by the immune system. This painting of the laminates highlights the calcium based plaques in such a way, that the immune system cannot remove the toxins from the plaque laminates entirely. Therefore, the contaminated c-patches are completely removed by the immune system that put them there in the first place. The good news is that c-patches take a real long time to be built up to develop arthritis or peyronies dysfunction. Whereas, bee venom coats and penetrates all c-patches in its path, even deeply, requiring the immune system to remove both free-toxins and toxins attached to laminates of calcium based plaque!
Finally, bee venom moves across all connective tissues, where as doctor injections are chemicals with little movement, except via immune system physical removal of it. This is why one bee-sting injections travel throughout the body´s connective tissues: be it a finger, toe, wrist, elbow or penis. Whereas, doctor injections just sit there, right where they were injected into the body. The only real movement with doctors´ practice -- is your ability to be experimented on and you ability to pay their fees for practicing on you!
I have been free of peyronies since 2006. I took me 1 year to get rid of c-patches on my penis. The surprise is the difficulty to get complete freedom of arthritis of the fingers, now that’s going to take a lot more work then repair a simple penis extension of sorts.
p.s. By searching the internet with these keywords, beesting, beesting2,arthritis beesting, you should get to find most of my letters of the past 2 years or so. Please remember the beestinger is 1mm long and needles and knives of a doctor could be thousands of time bigger—which is easier to fear!
Sincerely,
Beesting

Hydromaxmmm?
 
Hey,

I desperately need info on how to get rid of my pyronies, i think mines is not sever case but its effecting my erection, they are not as hard and the side which is bent is soft even when am hard...this means every time i try intercourse the penis easily bends to that direction and can weaken my erection, when i push the other direction it feels hard as hell. Can someone please tell me the best way to rid the plaque and return my erections back to normal with out the bend, also as my bend is so close to the shaft therefore i have a baseball effect which makes me feel my dick is weak near the shaft and usually harder half way upto the head. please someone help me i really need to recover from this and get my penis back into good shape.

Thanks
 
Bumping this thread.

Peyronies is usually caused by trauma to the penis which usually occurs during sex.
Well recently i underwent some trauma to my penis, and it wasnt while I was fucking.
No, i got hit very badly in the dick by a tree branch. (dont ask...)

This was two nights ago, my penis is in bad shape right now, and kind of twisted to the right.
I dont really know what to expect. I'm kind of depressed.
My routine consists mainly of jelqing, its getting kind of stagnant. Any suggestions?
I do not intend to let my penis just die on me...
 
i dont know if my post sounded stupid or not (it probably did)
but basically my dick got mauled by a tree branch
and now my dick looks like death (its pale and shrunken).
 
Dapper Dan;532993 said:
Bumping this thread.

Peyronies is usually caused by trauma to the penis which usually occurs during sex.
Well recently i underwent some trauma to my penis, and it wasnt while I was fucking.
No, i got hit very badly in the dick by a tree branch. (dont ask...)

This was two nights ago, my penis is in bad shape right now, and kind of twisted to the right.
I dont really know what to expect. I'm kind of depressed.
My routine consists mainly of jelqing, its getting kind of stagnant. Any suggestions?
I do not intend to let my penis just die on me...

Wow, sorry but did not see until now, my apologies sir! WHen the trauma occurred were you in an erect state? Is there any break present in the erectile tissue? Please let me know asap.
 
I was flaccid when the injury occured, however I'm pretty sure I was hit hard enough to do damage regardless.
I don't know if there's a break in the erectile tissue, I have not had a conscious boner since this had happened.
However, my penis is missing girth (alarming!), and while semi - erect, it kind of bends to the right.
 
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Dapper Dan;533207 said:
I was flaccid when the injury occured, however I'm pretty sure I was hit hard enough to do damage regardless.
I don't know if there's a break in the erectile tissue, I have not had a conscious boner since this had happened.
However, my penis is missing girth (alarming!), and while semi - erect, it kind of bends to the right.

see the doc.

get dmso + iodine. what you want achieve is that if there is any damage to let it heal without big scars.
 
Seeing a urologist might not be an option for me right now.
And dmso seems to be a mystery to obtain.
What the fuck else can I do?

I got a boner today and it certainly was missing size in length and girth.
Does jelqing help?
I`m sad.
 
Bump.
I'd really appreciate some advice.
Is dmso sold in stores, or is online the only option?
I can't afford a urologist right now.
I just want to know what I can do, if I in fact am experiencing the onset of peyronies, to prevent a loss in size. My girth is definitely lower than it usually is, and my length just a bit.
I'm trying to gain not lose...
 
Dapper Dan;533518 said:
Seeing a urologist might not be an option for me right now.
And dmso seems to be a mystery to obtain.
What the fuck else can I do?

I got a boner today and it certainly was missing size in length and girth.
Does jelqing help?
I`m sad.

Yes, Jelqing will always help and aside of Pumping it is the most used method to correct curvature.
 
hepcat;534935 said:
An extender will help straighten out you jimmy also.

This is true and something many do not know. The JES Extender (which is the SizeGenetics Extender) was originally medically approved for straightening a penis that suffered trauma of took on Peyronies. It was a side effect, the length, and that began the extender for length.
 
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