Wow I must be on another planet or something.

I wrap and only use one clamp, get hard, slowly increase tension on clamp, kegel, make myself harder, tighten more...repeating process.

Once I'm hard I do bends to both sides and to the front then I pull as hard as I can in the 12:00 position...that's a MF stretch right there.

Then I repeat the process over again except I don't loosen the clamp to start over.

The only time I'm getting fluid build up is when I go to sleep with the clamp on and wake up OR if I do one big monster set (for more than 2 hours) but the fluid isn't much, just a slight donut near the head.

I've noticed that my veins are really getting cool looking and erections are strong. When I do bends I can see the beginnings of ribs on both sides.
 
ocd said:
Wow I must be on another planet or something.

I wrap and only use one clamp, get hard, slowly increase tension on clamp, kegel, make myself harder, tighten more...repeating process.

Once I'm hard I do bends to both sides and to the front then I pull as hard as I can in the 12:00 position...that's a MF stretch right there.

Then I repeat the process over again except I don't loosen the clamp to start over.

The only time I'm getting fluid build up is when I go to sleep with the clamp on and wake up OR if I do one big monster set (for more than 2 hours) but the fluid isn't much, just a slight donut near the head.

I've noticed that my veins are really getting cool looking and erections are strong. When I do bends I can see the beginnings of ribs on both sides.

Well I guess you're lucky in the sense that you can maintain the 'rock hard' erection in the clamp. For me it subsides>:(
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
Well I guess you're lucky in the sense that you can maintain the 'rock hard' erection in the clamp. For me it subsides>:(

Whilst clamping my erection quality also slowly subsides but I've found that by gradually tightening the clamp(s) and putting pressure on my penis by squeezing in dfferent places I can maintain a very good amount of pressure for around 15 minutes per set. In other words the more time passes, the more my erection fades, the more I tighten the clamp(s) and put presure on my peins using my hands.

VK it sounds as if you have some pretty intense clamping going on there. Keep it going.

Great thread BTW.
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
Hey SWM.

Well I'm using a sock as a wrap.

That may be part of your prob as well. I have used a sock in the past, and depending on the thickness of the sock (say a thin dress sock vs. a much thicker white 'tube' type of sock), there can be uneven pressure distribution caused by the sock where you can have a pressure 'spot' if you will where theres more pressure on a given spot of your penis. Whereas if you use a thinner sock, or neoprene which is MY favorite type of wrap now, you wont have this problem as much. You may want to explore that route, and do some experimenting. ;)
 
stillwantmore2 said:
That may be part of your prob as well. I have used a sock in the past, and depending on the thickness of the sock (say a thin dress sock vs. a much thicker white 'tube' type of sock), there can be uneven pressure distribution caused by the sock where you can have a pressure 'spot' if you will where theres more pressure on a given spot of your penis. Whereas if you use a thinner sock, or neoprene which is MY favorite type of wrap now, you wont have this problem as much. You may want to explore that route, and do some experimenting. ;)

where do i find this 'neoprene' wrap? where do i buy it?
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
where do i find this 'neoprene' wrap? where do i buy it?


I simply use a piece of mousepad. It's the generic kind of pad thats about 1/8" thick, has the textured black neoprene side, and a blue fabric side. Most stores that sell any kind of computer related items will have them for less than $4 each. I cut a piece lengthwise about 2" wide.

Check out the vid I posted over on mynewsize.com/forum in the "Clamping Essentials" sub forum (In the Clampers' Forum) The video titled "Clamping Properly".
 
TomdW said:
Whilst clamping my erection quality also slowly subsides but I've found that by gradually tightening the clamp(s) and putting pressure on my penis by squeezing in dfferent places I can maintain a very good amount of pressure for around 15 minutes per set. In other words the more time passes, the more my erection fades, the more I tighten the clamp(s) and put presure on my peins using my hands.




This is what I do VK. My cock loses erection too.

I was referring to me not starting the process all over where you guys are unhooking once your erections fade and the time limit has been reached.

Once do a bunch of bends and stretches my cock will lose its erection level so I then get hard but never loosening the clamp. Eventually, I can't get hard and it feels like playdoh. Once I get to that point I do uli's because my cock is so filled with blood. I kegel off and on continuously.
 
ocd said:
This is what I do VK. My cock loses erection too.

I was referring to me not starting the process all over where you guys are unhooking once your erections fade and the time limit has been reached.

Once do a bunch of bends and stretches my cock will lose its erection level so I then get hard but never loosening the clamp. Eventually, I can't get hard and it feels like playdoh. Once I get to that point I do uli's because my cock is so filled with blood. I kegel off and on continuously.

Im gonna steal your routine for a few days :p
 
U GUYS MAY BE hurting and dropping blood cause the cable clamps are hard surfaces producing hard tension over little area of your penises> i´ve been used the clamping principle for about 15 days with a strong rubberband and I´m workin hard sessions of 35-40 min and didn´t drop any blood. and man, I feel the penis almost blowing. but for me the surface of a rubberband is soft compared to a cable clamp even if you use something to expand the area under the pression of it. maybe I´m bullshitin´u guys, but is what I think.
 
WILLBOM said:
U GUYS MAY BE hurting and dropping blood cause the cable clamps are hard surfaces producing hard tension over little area of your penises> i´ve been used the clamping principle for about 15 days with a strong rubberband and I´m workin hard sessions of 35-40 min and didn´t drop any blood. and man, I feel the penis almost blowing. but for me the surface of a rubberband is soft compared to a cable clamp even if you use something to expand the area under the pression of it. maybe I´m bullshitin´u guys, but is what I think.

the hardness of the clamp MIGHT lead to fibrosis in the tissue where the clamp is applied. The blood comming out, however, is independent of this.
 
I'm taking today off because yesterday a drop of blood came out as I upped the pressure.
You know, that same thing happened to me and I was scared shitless. I was about to quit pe all together, but it turns out all I needed to do warm up jelqs for ten minutes prior to a wet towel warm up. Afterwards you can jelq as hard as you want with no problems.
 
You know when your ready to make the transition from warm up jelqing to power jelqing when the tissue on the tip of your pee hole swells slightly.
 
VK, I aint forgot that routine either mate .. VERY SORRY about the delay, I WILL do the thing for you tommorow I promise freind :)
 
Maybe it's me, but I stay stimmed the whole time. I just put the clamp on and keep myself at 100% plus erection level by edging. I have no problems with maintaining a nice internal stretch, but I think we have to remember that just like stretching once the tissue has expanded to it's current limit, pushing past this point would be dangerous. Once you reach this point you'll get lots of fluid buildup because the tissue has expanded as much as it is going to. If you stretch for long periods of time, there's only so much the tissue can lengthen to during a given session. Everything past that point is going to be along the lines of maintaining that current length, that's what ADS's are for.

Also, another issue for me is that if I don't take 2-3 days of rest each week my penis feels like it is getting smaller. I have noticed that with the intensity of the internal stretch there has to be plenty of rest after your sessions. The tissue has been forced to expand, and then it WILL shrink to a smaller size for healing purposes. Allowing the tissues 2-3 days to rest and recuperate will do wonders for your progress, and I know it's helped mine a great deal.
 
millionman said:
Maybe it's me, but I stay stimmed the whole time. I just put the clamp on and keep myself at 100% plus erection level by edging. I have no problems with maintaining a nice internal stretch, but I think we have to remember that just like stretching once the tissue has expanded to it's current limit, pushing past this point would be dangerous. Once you reach this point you'll get lots of fluid buildup because the tissue has expanded as much as it is going to. If you stretch for long periods of time, there's only so much the tissue can lengthen to during a given session. Everything past that point is going to be along the lines of maintaining that current length, that's what ADS's are for.

Also, another issue for me is that if I don't take 2-3 days of rest each week my penis feels like it is getting smaller. I have noticed that with the intensity of the internal stretch there has to be plenty of rest after your sessions. The tissue has been forced to expand, and then it WILL shrink to a smaller size for healing purposes. Allowing the tissues 2-3 days to rest and recuperate will do wonders for your progress, and I know it's helped mine a great deal.

I used to be a HUGE fan of the whole rest theory. Perhaps I still am since ALL my gains happened on a 5 on 2 off routine. SWM's post about comparing Penis Enlargement to BB and faililng to recognize the simliarity of tunica to skin caught my attention though. He argues, that such tissues don't need rest, but instead need a constant force to change their state permenantly.

I've followed a 7 on zero off routine and only rest if I feel like it for a day here and there, and I haven't shriveled up at all, nor do I feel overtrained. I guess one point I over looked was the Warm up and warm down (cool down ? ?:() before and after Penis Enlargement'ing. I just sit in a hot tub for a while, with just enough water to sink my hip in.
 
There's an essential problem with SWM's comparison of skin and tunica being similar to how they react to stress. The tunica is an encasement for the chambers of the penis, that is supposed to maintain a set internal pressure, current size of the penis. With Penis Enlargement we are attempting to change that status, and when placed under pressure the tissue expands to a certain extent, but at the same time there are fluids produced that are metabolic wastes, as part of the repair process. This waste material if not allowed to clear will consistently buildup, and retard growth. The reason is because the repair process is incomplete. You have to have a new set point, or cemented gains, to actually change the status again. That's what Xeon has been discussing in his Finding Xeon thread, where he discusses his IPR theory. I have found that with a constant routine every day that I have erection quality problems as well as just getting mentally tired of the process. Taking a break from Penis Enlargement 1-2 days a week is not that much time off when you think about the total amount of time we spend over the course of a year.

I've been Peing for over 3 years and I have to say that my total number of days off pales in comparison to my days ON. You've got to have recovery time for ANY type of tissue.
 
millionman said:
There's an essential problem with SWM's comparison of skin and tunica being similar to how they react to stress. The tunica is an encasement for the chambers of the penis, that is supposed to maintain a set internal pressure, current size of the penis. With Penis Enlargement we are attempting to change that status, and when placed under pressure the tissue expands to a certain extent, but at the same time there are fluids produced that are metabolic wastes, as part of the repair process. This waste material if not allowed to clear will consistently buildup, and retard growth. The reason is because the repair process is incomplete. You have to have a new set point, or cemented gains, to actually change the status again. That's what Xeon has been discussing in his Finding Xeon thread, where he discusses his IPR theory. I have found that with a constant routine every day that I have erection quality problems as well as just getting mentally tired of the process. Taking a break from Penis Enlargement 1-2 days a week is not that much time off when you think about the total amount of time we spend over the course of a year.

I've been Peing for over 3 years and I have to say that my total number of days off pales in comparison to my days ON. You've got to have recovery time for ANY type of tissue.

very informative post.
what have your gains been over the 3 years?
 
Hmmm...I've gained nearly 2 inches in length and almost 1.5" in girth. Give or take .25 in girth, based on level of excitement.

However, I've only resently started gaining again. I spent the better part of a year and a half with no gains either way. It's only been recently that my girth has started to move again, and the combination of length work and ADS has me close to 8" EL. I'm really a very good example of overtraining when it comes to girth work. I have done everything from 7 days straight, which then turns into 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 week straight, and now I'm using a rest template where I traing 1-2 days and I rest 2-3 days. This really seems to have helped me kick start my gains again. I also think that without proper rest your gains will never solidify, because you are constantly breaking down the new tissue before it's completely healed.
 
millionman said:
Hmmm...I've gained nearly 2 inches in length and almost 1.5" in girth. Give or take .25 in girth, based on level of excitement.

However, I've only resently started gaining again. I spent the better part of a year and a half with no gains either way. It's only been recently that my girth has started to move again, and the combination of length work and ADS has me close to 8" EL. I'm really a very good example of overtraining when it comes to girth work. I have done everything from 7 days straight, which then turns into 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 week straight, and now I'm using a rest template where I traing 1-2 days and I rest 2-3 days. This really seems to have helped me kick start my gains again. I also think that without proper rest your gains will never solidify, because you are constantly breaking down the new tissue before it's completely healed.

I see. I havent seen gains in a long time either. specially length gains. Girth, I'm slowly gaining but seem to have been stuck on the 6 1/4 mark, or the excited 6 3/8 mark. My cock seems to be stretchy though. I mean if I was to get a dry hard on, I wouldn't even reach 6, but if i was to just stroke it abit, do a 100 or so jelqs and 2 or 3 Uli strokes, then I would expand to my 'gained girth'. I always do this prior to sex when she's giving me head or when im going down on her (IF i go down on her :p ) so it's a non issue.


I agree with you completely on not solidifying the gains w/o rest. But I just feel that if i was to break tissue down for like 10 days, then rest, it would be more effective. I'm trying this 7 on zero off routine for the first time. I havent had any gains yet, but I should give it at least a month or two.

So what do you think is responsible for the length/girth gains respectively? what's your routine? or do you believe it to be independent of the routine and a funtion of the rest?
 
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