Clampers, An interesting Question!

Or a dumb one perhaps, but one that has puzzled me nevertheless.

I've been clamping for the past 12 days with no rest, AM and PM averaging 50 minutes in the clamp everyday.

I'm trying to 'Test' some people's claims that with consisten clamping, girth gains of around 1/4 of an inch in a month or so is possible.

I'm taking today off because yesterday a drop of blood came out as I upped the pressure. Over the past 12 days, this has happened 3 times. Just one drop, and it's fine the very next day.

Now what I have noticed is that after 2 or 3 clamp sessions, I get a very uniform fluid build up thoughout the shaft. I get a minimum of 1/2" expansion post workout, but this is without a doubt 90% fluid.

my question is this.

I have noted that after the second or third clamp session, the 'intensity' drops considerablly. That is, initially, I feel an IMMENSE amount of pressure within the penis, mostly on the glans and the Tunica. I feel an internal 'stretch'. but this stretch only lasts for a minute or two and subsides either because the blood pressure drops or because the tissue relaxes, OR because the pores in the tunica open and fluid starts building up between the skin and the tunica, in turn pushing the tunica back, countering the internal pressure.

Either way, this internal pressure subsides even though I'm still at 110% errection. I unclamped just to kegel some more blood in and reclamp. again a minute or two of pressure and the same story.

So the punch line is:

Do we want this 'faux girth' expansion? or is this fluid girth truely counter productive to true tunica stretching and gains?



Any comments will be greatly appreciated as I'm truely having difficulties with this concept.

I expect to hear from all the clamp veterans, RED, SWM, etc.


Vkay

I think 1/4" every month is a tall claim. The person who claimed that is likely going off temporary gains or a one-month effort.

My later sessions usually seem MORE intense than morning sessions in general, from the earlier fatigue. I don't think fluid buildup hurts or helps girth gains in a considerable way, only if it prevents you from doing a particular exercise (which is quite possible). Do what feels intense, and don't worry about what is going on as far as counterforce and all that deep mumbo-jumbo.

I know what you mean VK- at least I believe I do.. Ive noticed that when I do multiple sets of clamping, the first seems the best and most intense and productive.. But in the later sets my penis feels completely hard and immovable inside- it feels as if further expansion is being restricted.. It does get discouraging as I dont really feel like Im creating a cause for gains, but I do work through it..

Also, Ive been having the same fucking problem with a drop of blood coming out of the pee- hole. Its really god damn annoying and has caused me to lower my intensity level on my ulis- the uli is the only exercise that has caused this injury.. No pain though, and yeah, next day everything seems a -ok. Pains me to think of where the blood is coming from.

goldmember said:

I think 1/4" every month is a tall claim. The person who claimed that is likely going off temporary gains or a one-month effort.

My later sessions usually seem MORE intense than morning sessions in general, from the earlier fatigue. I don't think fluid buildup hurts or helps girth gains in a considerable way, only if it prevents you from doing a particular exercise (which is quite possible). Do what feels intense, and don't worry about what is going on as far as counterforce and all that deep mumbo-jumbo.

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well SWM says he got a permenant gain of 1/4" of girth from just barely over a month time of clamping. Aristocane, as TheGirthKing on �other forum� made the same claim.

of course I don't want to gain 2 inches of girth, or my dick will be useless. But I'm still not happy with my girth as of now. The only reason I'm thinking too deep into this is to decide if I should lower the amount of sets to minimize fluid expansion, and then just have shorter and possibly more effective work outs..

On another note, have any of you ever pumped erect having clamping? Holy hell, talk about a core stretch! I can really feel my girth expanding in the pump after a clamping session.

MoreMeat...those damn uli's! I've got a love/hate relationship with them because they flat out work but what a cost.

VK,

I'm not experienced but I am an abusive MF to my cock. I'm not getting any fluid build up, well once, but it was a donut near the head.

I'm doing multiple sets thru out the day and each is lengthy and intense. On my bends I tend to feel a great stretch at first then I get hard again but then I have to bend more intense and longer to feel it.

Uli's are being done at about 80% erection and FULL of blood...slight discoloration seems to be the ticket. And I can't squeeze very hard at all otherwise it feels like my head and the area near the clamp are gonna burst.

A quarter inch a month? Maybe if my cock is conditioned and it just builds upon each months gain AND lots of uli's each session. But I don't see that as a reality...more like an eighth of an inch a month. And that's cool with me because that's an inch of girth in 8 months.

ocd said:

A quarter inch a month? Maybe if my cock is conditioned and it just builds upon each months gain AND lots of uli's each session. But I don't see that as a reality...more like an eighth of an inch a month. And that's cool with me because that's an inch of girth in 8 months.

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On further review after today's visual of recent sets...I'm starting to think .25" per month is possible.

Right above the clamp seems to be getting growth first.

ocd said:

Right above the clamp seems to be getting growth first.

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Thats interesting..


Yeah ocd, I thought you had to stop doing the ulis because of your elbows? I'm glad to hear that you seem better and are back at it.. I was the last to remain with our little 3 man am/pm uli routine, and I had to drop it as well because of injury.. Those fucking ulis will get ya

More Meat said:

Thats interesting..


Yeah ocd, I thought you had to stop doing the ulis because of your elbows? I'm glad to hear that you seem better and are back at it.. I was the last to remain with our little 3 man am/pm uli routine, and I had to drop it as well because of injury.. Those fucking ulis will get ya

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yup... you can run now.. but sooner or later, those ULI's will fuck you :D

I'm still doing the am/pm routine.... just not with ULI's anymore. Though I must say that 5 weeks of the ULI routine considerably enlarged my glans. I'm glad I did it.

it's just that damn occasional drop of blood.

anyways, back on topic. >

More Meat said:

Thats interesting..


Yeah ocd, I thought you had to stop doing the ulis because of your elbows? I'm glad to hear that you seem better and are back at it.. I was the last to remain with our little 3 man am/pm uli routine, and I had to drop it as well because of injury.. Those fucking ulis will get ya

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The elbows still hurt it's just that when I clamp my cock is so engorged that I dare not use much pressure when I do the uli's or my head will burst open. Or at least it feels like that.

As a result, the elbows are better because I can't use as much squeeze pressure...clamping kicks ass.

Better late than never okay well 1/4 in one month is very rare and something that I feel isnt really something that can be seen or done ... unless we're talking about TEMP gains, in which case YES but you must keep hitting that cock for about 6 months consistency to cement and make that temp gain into permanent gains and than its YOURS ... so I guess its a double answer, yes you can but temp.

Okay, the blood isnt something you want AT ALL ... your putting too much pressure on the bottom portion of your penis so ease that alittle if you can ... better still warm up before a session ... hot wraps work a treat, same principle here as in BB ... warm ups prevent [<can help] injuries.

I have also noticed that the first and second sessions usually are the most powerful but afterthat they get weeker ... this is because your penis is EXHAUSTED and wants to sleep hes very worn out and cant keep all that blood inside anymore and hence it retracts and the fluid starts to build.

This fluid to me isnt a bad thing, so long it isnt loads like if you major overpump with a vacuum pump.

Remember to email me from out PM.

ciao

6 months eah, I have been doing girth for just over 70 days straight, am/pm.
I took the other day off and woke up the next morning with the same girth I started before my journey. Your saying after 6 months I can expect to see those gains stay? ( please say yes, please say yes )

REDZULU2003 said:

Better late than never okay well 1/4 in one month is very rare and something that I feel isnt really something that can be seen or done ... unless we're talking about TEMP gains, in which case YES but you must keep hitting that cock for about 6 months consistency to cement and make that temp gain into permanent gains and than its YOURS ... so I guess its a double answer, yes you can but temp.

Okay, the blood isnt something you want AT ALL ... your putting too much pressure on the bottom portion of your penis so ease that alittle if you can ... better still warm up before a session ... hot wraps work a treat, same principle here as in BB ... warm ups prevent [<can help] injuries.

I have also noticed that the first and second sessions usually are the most powerful but afterthat they get weeker ... this is because your penis is EXHAUSTED and wants to sleep hes very worn out and cant keep all that blood inside anymore and hence it retracts and the fluid starts to build.

This fluid to me isnt a bad thing, so long it isnt loads like if you major overpump with a vacuum pump.

Remember to email me from out PM.

ciao

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Ya i do feel quite a bit of pressure on the bottom portion of the penis... nameley the Corporus Sponginisum (CS). How do you recommend I ease this pressure off? I place the cable clamp with the 'screw' side pointing to the ground... I do notice that whenever I have blood comming out, I have alot of pressure in the CS, so you hit a bulls eye with that one. Question is, if I reduce the pressure in the CS (assuming I can somehow do that), wont that be counter productive to clamping? i.e. not enough pressure in the chambers?

Blood now and then is ok, and not unexpected when doing these very high intensity girth exercises, but when youre seeing it consistently, you need to re evaluate what youre doing. Sounds like you got it figured out. A 1/4" of girth in one month IS do able. I did not say 'every' month...as most of the committed guys here know, that's not realistic as life happens, things come up....workouts vary, etc.

Vaseline_Knight said:

Ya i do feel quite a bit of pressure on the bottom portion of the penis... nameley the Corporus Sponginisum (CS). How do you recommend I ease this pressure off? I place the cable clamp with the 'screw' side pointing to the ground... I do notice that whenever I have blood comming out, I have alot of pressure in the CS, so you hit a bulls eye with that one. Question is, if I reduce the pressure in the CS (assuming I can somehow do that), wont that be counter productive to clamping? i.e. not enough pressure in the chambers?

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Are you using a wrap? If so, what/how? It's odd that your pressure is unevenly distributed as you point out that you feel it mostly in the bottom of your penis. What type of exercises are you doing that might be causing this? If youre doing exercises where you are putting lots of pressure on your glans, that may be your culprit.

stillwantmore2 said:

Are you using a wrap? If so, what/how? It's odd that your pressure is unevenly distributed as you point out that you feel it mostly in the bottom of your penis. What type of exercises are you doing that might be causing this? If youre doing exercises where you are putting lots of pressure on your glans, that may be your culprit.

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Hey SWM.

Well I'm using a sock as a wrap. I wrap at the base quite snug, and i put the clamp on but i dont tighten it. What I do is I watch �naked people movies� /edge, and then I kegel and I Push the clamp as far down towards my pubic bone as possible and I tighten it. When I kegel, I feel the CS engorge and in turn the glans. So when I clamp down, the glans is rock hard. now no blood comes out, but If I'm too add a second or third clamp while this hard, a drop of blood comes out every now and then, though not everytime.



I'm not doing any exercises while clamped. when I do it correctly, the internal stretch is so much that I'm basically feeling a slight bit of pain (good pain) in the tunica. This stretch usually lasts for like 5 mins, and I unclamp, kegel and reclamp to achieve the same intensity again.

Vaseline_Knight said:

Do we want this 'faux girth' expansion? or is this fluid girth truely counter productive to true tunica stretching and gains?

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I think that fluid girth is only temporary, and doesn't in and of itself give you any gains- gains are to do with tunica stretching and fluid build up is on top of the tunica, not beneath it.

I'm unclear that fluid is negative though; although in the past I've made the best gains when I minimise fluid buildup.

My current theory is that girth gains are due to breaking down the collagen in the tunica and then stretching it using constrictors in that state. If you can do that then you seem to get very little fluid.

I think that fluid buildup is because you've exceeded the strength of vessels in your dick, and training so you avoid that, whilst gaining size seems to be a really good idea.

Anyway, that's just my best guess at the moment. YMMV.

wolfkeeper said:

I think that fluid girth is only temporary, and doesn't in and of itself give you any gains- gains are to do with tunica stretching and fluid build up is on top of the tunica, not beneath it.

I'm unclear that fluid is negative though; although in the past I've made the best gains when I minimise fluid buildup.

My current theory is that girth gains are due to breaking down the collagen in the tunica and then stretching it using constrictors in that state. If you can do that then you seem to get very little fluid.

I think that fluid buildup is because you've exceeded the strength of vessels in your dick, and training so you avoid that, whilst gaining size seems to be a really good idea.

Anyway, that's just my best guess at the moment. YMMV.

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Hydromaxm, very interesting post. So let me get something right though.

So you're saying that we should first 'break down' the tunica, and then stretch it using constrictors. But don't constrictors do just that? break down the tunica? or am I missing something here? How do you go about breaking this tough collagen prior to constriction?

Vaseline_Knight said:

So you're saying that we should first 'break down' the tunica, and then stretch it using constrictors. But don't constrictors do just that? break down the tunica? or am I missing something here? How do you go about breaking this tough collagen prior to constriction?

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Jelqing! (Wet)

I think constrictors on their own tend to just hit a plateau. It's the jelqing that causes the breakdown; then it recovers over a day or two. I speculate that the dick is more sensitive to constriction at that point.

I'm not sure, but that's my working hypothesis. Certainly I've made good gains that way, and I noted that Redzulu said he liked doing wet jelqs as part of his routine. It's subtle (if that is subtle, probably not) points like that that can make big differences.

wolfkeeper said:

Jelqing! (Wet)

I think constrictors on their own tend to just hit a plateau. It's the jelqing that causes the breakdown; then it recovers over a day or two. I speculate that the dick is more sensitive to constriction at that point.

I'm not sure, but that's my working hypothesis. Certainly I've made good gains that way, and I noted that Redzulu said he liked doing wet jelqs as part of his routine. It's subtle (if that is subtle, probably not) points like that that can make big differences.

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I do wet jelq between sets, but perhaps thats not enough.
I also note that the wet jelqs after fluid has built up is not effective at all, as it is just moving around lymph and not much blood.

But I will concentrate more on jelqing. Are 500 jelqs per day good enough?