CobraStang;443293 said:
I should add in there that when I'm doing the horse squeezes, I am squeezing as hard as I can for about 40-50 seconds, so the penis between my hands, the part that is expanding actually feels like it is going to rip out and explode! So, intensity is very important.

Aha, this may be the reason for a very good expansion, I was afraid to do horse squeezes for longer time as it feels unusual to me with slight pain in penis, but maybe this is the feeling that would make me approach the better expansion, very good advice! Hey CobraStang do you do horses with overhand or underhand grip.
 
Yesterday clamping late at night: I clamped very tight add couple quick 5 second squeezes under glans ( unfortunately had not read CobraStang´s post till my last clamping session) I did couple bends not very intense Only got expansion of 1/8 inches (but my clamped expansion increased of 1/16 from my usual sessions at the end), at least something. I realized I got hundreds red dots which still last. This is something that is very unusual for me. I must confess I clamped 3 day in a row just for trial and I am going take at least 2 days off to offest the workout days. But today I called to remembrance that when I got expansion of 1/4 I mistakenly clamped the unusual way, my clamp was not even and the right sight of the hose clamp was closer to the pubic to the contrary of the left side which was further from the pubic bone (maybe I got it confused and the contrary is thruth, meaning that it was not right side but the left side of the clamp which got closer to the pubic bone). I saw that my cock was slightly bent to the left side then I grabbed it and kept it even so I incurred the force that was against the force of the clamp which made my cock bend leftwards. Now after recalling this I start to understand what can eventually work for me ""very tough tunica guy"" In TGC theory Remek says that if tunica is the limit and it is to be enlarged in order to make gains, you wanna make girth gains, (not lenght) there are excercises such as Isolated compression squeezes (not sure but horse squeezes are something similar if not the same, excuse me if I´m wrong, not sure though) and flaccid bends (in fact there are not done flaccid but in semi erect state). Clamping is both good for tunica and smooth muscle gains but Remek says that it seems like it it is better for smooth muscle gains than tunica, because the force comes from inside and thus directly impacts smooth muscle and indirectly tunica which is stretched from the inside. Also this could be a reason for guys that get good expansion and those who do not, but I read something that really got me interested and it was a post of one guy at �other forum� who says that he had not been getting expansion greater than 1/4 for like 5 months making no gains he strated to do Orange bends while clamping and he gained 3/4 inches within a yar or less (maybe 8 months I don´t exactly remember how long) Now after all it seems like the best thing would be buy Bathmate, do pumping and then clamping with bends and squeezes, that would really do something to my tunica. I just purchased the air clamp so I´m curious, but after reading the post by CobraStang I will start to do some horsies, but hell now I can imagine how intense it will be.
 
Alexbig;443447 said:
In TGC theory Remek says that if tunica is the limit and it is to be enlarged in order to make gains, you wanna make girth gains, (not lenght) there are excercises such as Isolated compression squeezes (not sure but horse squeezes are something similar if not the same, excuse me if I´m wrong, not sure though) and flaccid bends
In case you wanna make gith gains, I neede to put " in case in between otherwise my sentence could have been understood as wrong. By the way CobraStang do you do horsies throughout your whole clamping set the full time? or you do just copuile of the each one lasting for 50seconds?
 
Hey Alexbig, I usually use an underhand grip for the base because I can get a better grip and use my middle finger too. Also, I do perform horse squeezes throughout the entire clamping session. Heres an example of how my routine goes down. I use a light clamp, I'm talking just enough to where it holds in the blood. I'm just using a jelly like material cock ring now, no cable clamp. My dick doesn't get super hard with this cock ring from the tightness, I like it a little loose so that there is some room to squeeze and expand.

So I get erect, put the cock ring on and start the timer. I do a horse squeeze for usually 30-50 seconds, just depends on how long I can hold it and the amount of blood that is inbetween the grips. Right after the horse squeeze I stroke until I'm hard again and do another horse squeeze and repeat until 25 minutes is up. I literally do a horse squeeze every minute at least. Its intense and sometimes I'm shaking when I squeeze.

So far I'm on my 9th day in a row doing these every night. My starting girth is 5.5, and before every session so far I measure and start at 5.75 from the night before. The best post girth so far has been 6.5" and never less than 6.25".
 
You´re doing very good CobraStang, anyway the idea of horse squeezes helped me. Yesterday I did my workout and was doing horsies with overhand grip, hell I gotta tell you they are intense, but I got expansion of 1/4 without them I likely wouldn´t be able to get any expansion at all. I´m now waiting for the air clamp, I´ll be able to experiment and also do the same thing like you do. With air clamp I´ll be able to do exactly the same thing replacing the cock ring.:)
 
Just got back from 6 day vacation the last timke I clamped was monday 6 days ago.
 
Damn, today´s workout I saw red million red dots and some of them were really big, I did horses they are so intense during clamping, my fully erect expansion has remained 1/4 inches but my non fully erect expansion increased by 1/16 to 5/16 so I haven´t said yet that I´m not biggest at fully erect but at 85 % my post clamped not fully erect girth was 5 5/16. Still not very satisfied and also after my workout I also felt nothing happening down there. But at least 1/16 of bigger expansion it seems
 
Well actaully I feel something like a slight tissue fatique and the red dots and discoloration says that my workout was not light at all, expansion seems to persist.
 
Red dots come and go...part of the game
 
UnfortunatelyI took a measurement and 10 hours after workout there was no expansion so even though it looked like it remained it did not in fact.
 
Today I didn´t do horse squeezes but I clamped tighter than usual at higher erection degree, still I got the expansion of 1/4, my plan is to go through clamping at hard erection and then do the last set with horsies as intense as it gets to reach bigger expansion, still red dots scare me, but upcoming discoloration is nothing unusual.
 
Alexbig;445197 said:
Today I didn´t do horse squeezes but I clamped tighter than usual at higher erection degree, still I got the expansion of 1/4, my plan is to go through clamping at hard erection and then do the last set with horsies as intense as it gets to reach bigger expansion, still red dots scare me, but upcoming discoloration is nothing unusual.

Great consistent expansion!
 
The key here is to remain aroused for the session and keep the intensity going. Aim for more expansion eachweek and you will grow. Dont be harsh on yourself for small steps backward as we all do them at first. Clamping isnt a set and go like many think, you have to work with it and learn to become really a 'master' if you will.
 
REDZULU2003;445246 said:
The key here is to remain aroused for the session and keep the intensity going. Aim for more expansion eachweek and you will grow. Dont be harsh on yourself for small steps backward as we all do them at first. Clamping isnt a set and go like many think, you have to work with it and learn to become really a 'master' if you will.

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Just did my session, I was very erect this whole session, tried to clamp the tighest when confortable I could have, I didn´t get the great expansion but I was bigger about 1/8. No horses this time, just experimenting to concede myself that those horsies and bends are the clue to greater expansion. Today I felt any kind of arousal, it was deeper, and my EQ was better. Thanks guys for motivation. Also my plan is to buy Instant Performer, as I previously read one story of a guy with no clamping gains purchasing diabetes foot cream which contains L´arginine and he gained afterwards. This will be a good experiment. Keep motivating me. Also I plan later on to get Bathmate to support my expansion struglle from the outside.
 
Yesteray at night, another good clamping session, this time I turned to doing squeezes and expansion was bigger than when clamping at hard. Also the more intense horse squeezes I do the more arousal seems to get accumulated with my member. Clamping really seems to alter the chemistry within my member I end up session aroused like never before. My next goal is to increase expansion about 1/16.
 
Just did my second session with air clamp I got 3 days ago. Seems like it provides the better local constriction so the blood is kept better and don´t escape out of compressed area. But also I without squeezes I would achieve only 1/8, today I was surprised that I wasn´t able to achieve hard erection after the session,( hard erection in my case causes an expansion decrease by 1/8 on account to the hardness, which is weird, but that is just my case) So I ended up with greater expansion just before ejaculation, which I held back this time, so I ended with a good pump before cooldown. So today I hit 5 1/4 for the first time as erection before ejaculation (mostly it´s only 5 1/8 after the session and 4 7/8 before the session, but in this case my erections are hard) Yesterday I measured and no gains were reported.
 
REDZULU2003;441739 said:
One of the secrets to clamping is remaining AROUSED and fully erect or AT LEAST close to fully erect.
BigGirtha would disagree with you and he gained ~2'' of girth. :)
 
I comment on what has worked very effectively for myself and others of whom I know about such as these forums and several others. BigGirtha I'm not aware about but know he is a member on �other forum�, does clamping and gained very well. I dont suggest that my methods are the only way, as variations exist that work such as what your implying but with some sarcasm, granted your point is made.

For the record I have gained over 2'' of erect girth as well :)
 
REDZULU2003;458697 said:
I comment on what has worked very effectively for myself and others of whom I know about such as these forums and several others. BigGirtha I'm not aware about but know he is a member on �other forum�, does clamping and gained very well. I dont suggest that my methods are the only way, as variations exist that work such as what your implying but with some sarcasm, granted your point is made.

For the record I have gained over 2'' of erect girth as well :)
Nah, I'm not sarcastic, I'm just pointing out that being erect is not a MUST, that's all. I clamp erect myself, mainly because I can't really lose erection while clamped and kegeling even if I don't watch ���� or stimulate myself. I can lose 10-20% of hardness, though, but I can't see how can you go limp (still engorged) while clamped.
 
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