Supra sent you a pm asking how to a ROP . Also, can you wear it while you are using an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]?
 
ult_mate;590511 said:
Hey there Supra...

I have recently made my own ROP. Have been wearing it around (dick+balls) for about a week now (7 days), even when going to the pool for my swimming training and at the gym as well. So far, I have not seen nor felt any difference. When I have it on, I do not feel any tingling or any type of current flowing around so far. Perhaps at a biological level something might be happening, but I cannot back that up until I get my testosterone levels checked.

I'm an Engineer and got knowledge on the field of chemistry and electricity, as well as mechanics. I was wondering exactly how are you getting the reading for the voltage created by the ROP when is in contact with the body? How are you measuring it? What is the protocol you follow to being consistent in the measuring? The sizing of the rods is an important factor to take into consideration in this case.

Would it be possible to have a clear photograph of the ROP you make? The diagram you show in one of the posts is just a "representation", not the real product.

The metals I got, both Cu and Zn are 99,999% purity. I've tried the classical experiment with different media (solutions where you immerse the rods (cathodes / anodes)) to test for the voltage you might get depending on the size of the rod (length and diameter wise). But it is a total different media when simply putting the rods against the skin with some moisture between them, which can greatly vary since it is not really constant, from: weather conditions, types of clothes worn, biological response to the possible electrical current created by the circuit, and the list goes on.

Would be nice to hear more about the science behind it, not just the threads that have been already posted here (I have read them all), but something more "scientific" to it.

Perhaps a new thread could be started as a Sticky and name it: "Blood Test results backing up ROP positive impact + effectiveness on Testosterone levels (before and after results)" -- set the protocol for people to follow as to the T as possible and then make a comparison. I believe this is the right way to make this man-made solution very reliable with enough scientific data to prove it.

I have access to lab equipment and I could try to take some time to further run extra tests and see what happens.

Hope to get a real reply to this... after all, science beats most of the myths around the internet. ;)

Thanks in advance for everything!

ult_mate;590542 said:
Not really... my suggestion goes beyond that post.

By this I mean, a Sticky post that can only be managed by a Moderator in order to post "before and after" REAL lab results, scanned or photographed for example, in order to validate the data provided. This way, every member that has had "real" results with the ROP can submit his results and make it public, adding to the consistency of the posts posted around in the forum which only claim they got results and that is it. I am not saying they have not, just show a real proof that it did. That simple...

I look at real facts, no misleading or bias data or unsupported statistics. I'm a science dude so...

I second this. But I guess it's up to us to do the research. There are multiple claims Supra has made concerning the ROP. 1) It increases testicle size and flaccid hang. 2) It raises test levels..... in some cases with virtually no limit, elevating them to that of an Olympic level athlete or small time steroid user. 3) The ROP can be worn while on a steroid cycle, preventing HTPA shutdown.

These are all massive claims made by Supra across various forums.

I have owned and used a ROP for some time. I got one about 2 years ago and wore it for a few weeks. I did notice its effect on my penis early on, which is what these guys on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] are looking for. I think the flaccid hang is covered. But we don't have much information on the ROP's effect on test levels and there is no evidence of its effect on a person on steroids.

So I'm going to take it upon myself to do a long term ROP test.

I invite others to join in on this study so that we can finally debunk or validate this product through and through.

This will be my method:

1) I will have my test levels checked, along with any other hormone levels I can get out of a visit to an endocrinologist. I will list my weight, height, lean tissue mass, and age along with the "before" information.
2) I will wear the ROP 24/7 for a period of 1 month (31 days) and keep my diet totally constant day to day by tracking my macros. I will post my macros as well.
3) I will test my hormone levels on day 31 and if there is an increase in my test by more than 2%, I'll say that validates the effectiveness of the ROP on the hormone system.

But I'll take it a step further if there is a test increase.
4) I will begin using 50mg of Anavar (the steroid) following the 31 day trial. (Why this steroid? Because it won't show up as a testosterone increase on lab work).
5) I'll have my blood work done every 2 weeks. If my test levels go down, the ROP is not working. If my test levels are maintained or going up, I'll stay on the Anavar and continue testing my blood every two weeks.
6) If the ROP is working or not, I'll come off the anavar with no post cycle therapy and test my hormone levels to see weather or not my hormones normalize at a normal or drastic rate.

How does this sound as a method of proving the ROP's effectiveness?
 
That sounds exactly like what I've wanted to see done since Supra first started selling these things. Can't wait to hear your results.
 
Tahir Aqbar;601407 said:
I second this. But I guess it's up to us to do the research. There are multiple claims Supra has made concerning the ROP. 1) It increases testicle size and flaccid hang. 2) It raises test levels..... in some cases with virtually no limit, elevating them to that of an Olympic level athlete or small time steroid user. 3) The ROP can be worn while on a steroid cycle, preventing HTPA shutdown.

These are all massive claims made by Supra across various forums.

I have owned and used a ROP for some time. I got one about 2 years ago and wore it for a few weeks. I did notice its effect on my penis early on, which is what these guys on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] are looking for. I think the flaccid hang is covered. But we don't have much information on the ROP's effect on test levels and there is no evidence of its effect on a person on steroids.

So I'm going to take it upon myself to do a long term ROP test.

I invite others to join in on this study so that we can finally debunk or validate this product through and through.

This will be my method:

1) I will have my test levels checked, along with any other hormone levels I can get out of a visit to an endocrinologist. I will list my weight, height, lean tissue mass, and age along with the "before" information.
2) I will wear the ROP 24/7 for a period of 1 month (31 days) and keep my diet totally constant day to day by tracking my macros. I will post my macros as well.
3) I will test my hormone levels on day 31 and if there is an increase in my test by more than 2%, I'll say that validates the effectiveness of the ROP on the hormone system.

But I'll take it a step further if there is a test increase.
4) I will begin using 50mg of Anavar (the steroid) following the 31 day trial. (Why this steroid? Because it won't show up as a testosterone increase on lab work).
5) I'll have my blood work done every 2 weeks. If my test levels go down, the ROP is not working. If my test levels are maintained or going up, I'll stay on the Anavar and continue testing my blood every two weeks.
6) If the ROP is working or not, I'll come off the anavar with no post cycle therapy and test my hormone levels to see weather or not my hormones normalize at a normal or drastic rate.

How does this sound as a method of proving the ROP's effectiveness?
really looking forward to this. when will you be beginning this??
 
With Supra being gone, does anyone know where to purchase a good quality Ring of Power?

The AB Silicone Ring of Power looks legitimate, with real copper and zinc.
 
dmoney101;601429 said:
That sounds exactly like what I've wanted to see done since Supra first started selling these things. Can't wait to hear your results.

It'll take some time... months... so hold your horses. Personally, I've always wanted to be able to blast and cruise without fucking up my endocrine system. I have to do manual labor jobs for the next two years before I can move on in life and I hate delaying my weight lifting by dealing with fatigue from work. Plus, the over all concept could be revolutionary for all high level athletes.

But we have to maintain a totally neutral perspective on the ROP for this study to be effective.

youknowme123321;601431 said:
really looking forward to this. when will you be beginning this??

I just came up with idea recently, so I have to plan it all out on the calendar and create a budget. I have a half an ROP... that I bought from Supra about 2 years ago. My dumb ass threw out the copper rod because it melted, yes, melted the rubber. I could have worn it through that entire time period but I misplaced it and moved into a new place.

So I can start when I either Supra returns to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] to sell me a ROP or when I find a source for copper rods of the quality Supra uses. I think it would be best to get the ROP through Supra for the sake of quality control.

If anyone has any input on how I could improve the study or if other people want to participate, let's get the ball rolling on this.

Supra, can you send me a PM so I can purchase another ROP? :cool:
 
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are you still making these supra? do you know much it would be to ship to the uk? how long does is last for, will it need replacing after so many months? thanks mate look foward to hearing from ya :P
 
Tahir Aqbar;601407 said:
I second this. But I guess it's up to us to do the research. There are multiple claims Supra has made concerning the ROP. 1) It increases testicle size and flaccid hang. 2) It raises test levels..... in some cases with virtually no limit, elevating them to that of an Olympic level athlete or small time steroid user. 3) The ROP can be worn while on a steroid cycle, preventing HTPA shutdown.

These are all massive claims made by Supra across various forums.

I have owned and used a ROP for some time. I got one about 2 years ago and wore it for a few weeks. I did notice its effect on my penis early on, which is what these guys on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] are looking for. I think the flaccid hang is covered. But we don't have much information on the ROP's effect on test levels and there is no evidence of its effect on a person on steroids.

So I'm going to take it upon myself to do a long term ROP test.

I invite others to join in on this study so that we can finally debunk or validate this product through and through.

This will be my method:

1) I will have my test levels checked, along with any other hormone levels I can get out of a visit to an endocrinologist. I will list my weight, height, lean tissue mass, and age along with the "before" information.
2) I will wear the ROP 24/7 for a period of 1 month (31 days) and keep my diet totally constant day to day by tracking my macros. I will post my macros as well.
3) I will test my hormone levels on day 31 and if there is an increase in my test by more than 2%, I'll say that validates the effectiveness of the ROP on the hormone system.

But I'll take it a step further if there is a test increase.
4) I will begin using 50mg of Anavar (the steroid) following the 31 day trial. (Why this steroid? Because it won't show up as a testosterone increase on lab work).
5) I'll have my blood work done every 2 weeks. If my test levels go down, the ROP is not working. If my test levels are maintained or going up, I'll stay on the Anavar and continue testing my blood every two weeks.
6) If the ROP is working or not, I'll come off the anavar with no post cycle therapy and test my hormone levels to see weather or not my hormones normalize at a normal or drastic rate.

How does this sound as a method of proving the ROP's effectiveness?

good luck i hope you make some good gains
 
Tahir Aqbar;601524 said:
It'll take some time... months... so hold your horses. Personally, I've always wanted to be able to blast and cruise without fucking up my endocrine system. I have to do manual labor jobs for the next two years before I can move on in life and I hate delaying my weight lifting by dealing with fatigue from work. Plus, the over all concept could be revolutionary for all high level athletes.

But we have to maintain a totally neutral perspective on the ROP for this study to be effective.

I wouldn't expect any less than a few months. Otherwise it wouldn't be thorough enough. Hopefully supra comes back to make a few more.
 
Tahir Aqbar;601407 said:
I second this. But I guess it's up to us to do the research. There are multiple claims Supra has made concerning the ROP. 1) It increases testicle size and flaccid hang. 2) It raises test levels..... in some cases with virtually no limit, elevating them to that of an Olympic level athlete or small time steroid user. 3) The ROP can be worn while on a steroid cycle, preventing HTPA shutdown.

These are all massive claims made by Supra across various forums.

I have owned and used a ROP for some time. I got one about 2 years ago and wore it for a few weeks. I did notice its effect on my penis early on, which is what these guys on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] are looking for. I think the flaccid hang is covered. But we don't have much information on the ROP's effect on test levels and there is no evidence of its effect on a person on steroids.

So I'm going to take it upon myself to do a long term ROP test.

I invite others to join in on this study so that we can finally debunk or validate this product through and through.

This will be my method:

1) I will have my test levels checked, along with any other hormone levels I can get out of a visit to an endocrinologist. I will list my weight, height, lean tissue mass, and age along with the "before" information.
2) I will wear the ROP 24/7 for a period of 1 month (31 days) and keep my diet totally constant day to day by tracking my macros. I will post my macros as well.
3) I will test my hormone levels on day 31 and if there is an increase in my test by more than 2%, I'll say that validates the effectiveness of the ROP on the hormone system.

But I'll take it a step further if there is a test increase.
4) I will begin using 50mg of Anavar (the steroid) following the 31 day trial. (Why this steroid? Because it won't show up as a testosterone increase on lab work).
5) I'll have my blood work done every 2 weeks. If my test levels go down, the ROP is not working. If my test levels are maintained or going up, I'll stay on the Anavar and continue testing my blood every two weeks.
6) If the ROP is working or not, I'll come off the anavar with no post cycle therapy and test my hormone levels to see weather or not my hormones normalize at a normal or drastic rate.

How does this sound as a method of proving the ROP's effectiveness?
This will be very helpful, good luck keep us updated
 
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dmoney101;601817 said:
I wouldn't expect any less than a few months. Otherwise it wouldn't be thorough enough. Hopefully supra comes back to make a few more.

He'll be back... it'll just take a while, which is good. That gives me more time to adjust to my new job. I have to be highly active, lifting boxes all day. I also lift weights 4 to 6 days a week so the new job, coupled with my weight lifting, and the fact that I'm in a state of nutritional ketosis is a recepie for an assload of natural test already. Professional weight lifters who lift with a bulgarian method style of training have been shown to have increases of test by 30% because of the body's response to the workload. Supra taking his time gives me time to adapt and let my hormones level out anyway.

The 31 day period is short. I guess we'll see what happens is all I can say. Maybe a longer period of time would be better for testing. I may start a thread to get other people on board with this so that we can have 1, 2, and 3 month trial periods with people of different ages, activity levels, and diets.
 
xenofact777;601477 said:
With Supra being gone, does anyone know where to purchase a good quality Ring of Power?

The AB Silicone Ring of Power looks legitimate, with real copper and zinc.

Bump!

I guess I'm pretty late in the game but, there was a link he posted about building your own and it looks down. Just wondering if anyone might have a similar link?

*nm. Just looked around and saw one on ebay. Hopefully its legit
 
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I want a ring of power!!! Supra never replied to my message. Does anyone else make these things? Where else can I find a good quality ROP like the people have been talking about on these forums?
 
ive wanted to try one of these out/ make one for a while now, but dunno where to get the stuff in the uk, or how to put it together
 
Think it's basically some latex tubing like from a sling shot band...some hardware stores sell it by the foot as well. Along with a piece of quarter inch diameter (or similar) copper tubing and a piece of zinc bar the same diameter. Each piece of metal should be about 1.5" long and you connect them by two pieces of the latex tubing. Pretty simple and inexpensive really. Should cost maybe $10 tops.
 
Haven't posted in this thread in a while as I've gotten away from the ROP. But now that I've been using it again for a few weeks I noticed that it tends to push my balls forward and that the rods are in contact with my scrotum more than anything else.

Now you'd think having used this before that I would have noted it but here I am! So I'm wondering if it still has the same effect or this is how it's supposed to be used. Thanks for the help!
 
I bought one and have been using it since wednesday and bought a second one to wear around my balls, but I feel like the rods are in the wrong position. My question is does anybody know how to properly put one on?
 
MistrJay;621597 said:
I bought one and have been using it since wednesday and bought a second one to wear around my balls, but I feel like the rods are in the wrong position. My question is does anybody know how to properly put one on?

There is no specify position they should be in, just strapped on so it won't fall off.
 
stillwantmore2;623100 said:
I think I'll grab the reigns on this on soon since it looks like Supra is done. Complete with a detailed how to guide, pictures, and videos.
What was he selling them for? Nvm, $50. I'm thinking $25 shipped anywhere.

I picked mine up for $25 plus $5 for priority mail shipping for just 1 R.O.P. Pictures and videos would be awesome.
 
I am sorry to say if any one says ring of power does not work he is wrong. If you want more power then you add saline solution in the tube of ring of power and see the magic.

For better work I have drilled through and through holes in my copper and zinc rods and then fill the saline solution so that the saline solution works through and through. This also increase more surface area for the saline solution to work. Check the pictures.
 
Hey guys. I only registered to buy this stuff. Have problems with ED so would be great if it could help me. Will pm supra, hope he is still around, even if slow. Cheers
 
hey master_mind,
Could you post more photos of the ring?
1. how big should the rods be ?
2. What is the saline solution and where do you put it?
3. where can i get the equipment apart from online? or what kind of shop?
thanks
 
pogzee;625494 said:
hey master_mind,
Could you post more photos of the ring?
1. how big should the rods be ?
2. What is the saline solution and where do you put it?
3. where can i get the equipment apart from online? or what kind of shop?
thanks
Rods to be big around one 1.75 to 2 inches. Diameter of the rods 9 to 11 mm. Rods in India are freely available who keeps all kinds of metal. About saline solution it's normal salt mixed in water. Success of saline solution I will tell you later. Tubes are silicon or rubber tubes.
 
master_mind;625531 said:
Rods to be big around one 1.75 to 2 inches. Diameter of the rods 9 to 11 mm. Rods in India are freely available who keeps all kinds of metal. About saline solution it's normal salt mixed in water. Success of saline solution I will tell you later. Tubes are silicon or rubber tubes.
My rods are 9 mm in diameter but I will make a new ROP with 2.25 inches rod and diameter of 14 to 15 mm to increase more surface area.
 
master_mind;625531 said:
Rods to be big around one 1.75 to 2 inches. Diameter of the rods 9 to 11 mm. Rods in India are freely available who keeps all kinds of metal. About saline solution it's normal salt mixed in water. Success of saline solution I will tell you later. Tubes are silicon or rubber tubes.

Dude my dicks is as big as that ....LOL does it matter what size i keep the rods and is the hole in the middle for increasing voltage ?
Don't you think its TOO BIG ?????? i guess you have made a big sized ring to place over you penis and scrotum together. Please do post pics once your ring is complete so i can see clearly .
Also i think i should not buy it from any metal shop because If metals can increase blood flow then bad quality metals can also decrease blood flow.I will try to find good quality for sure.
Thanks
 
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pogzee;625494 said:
hey master_mind,
Could you post more photos of the ring?
1. how big should the rods be ?
2. What is the saline solution and where do you put it?
3. where can i get the equipment apart from online? or what kind of shop?
thanks

I disproved that saliene helps, it actually hinders the process. You want your body to be what connects the circut and you want the voltage to flow between the bars, not around via the water.
 
master_mind;625438 said:
I am sorry to say if any one says ring of power does not work he is wrong. If you want more power then you add saline solution in the tube of ring of power and see the magic.

For better work I have drilled through and through holes in my copper and zinc rods and then fill the saline solution so that the saline solution works through and through. This also increase more surface area for the saline solution to work. Check the pictures.

Very nice job.
 
Hey supra! You're here! Are you still in the business of making the ROP?
 
Hey Supra, have you ever seen this commercial? It's for a material called copperwear and its copper-weaved fabric that helps heal/repair sore muscles/joints. Every time I see this commercial I think of the ROP and I also think about the possibility of a similar small copper imbedded sleeve that men could wear around the penis. Similar to a ring but it would grip the penis just like that sleeve in the video is wrapped around someone's arm. And being that it's a sleeve it could possibly have the long term added benefit of stretching or holding the penis hanging longer. Just some thoughts!

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Oops here's the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5-Ub9IFYf0
 
Scypher;631183 said:
Hey Supra, have you ever seen this commercial? It's for a material called copperwear and its copper-weaved fabric that helps heal/repair sore muscles/joints. Every time I see this commercial I think of the ROP and I also think about the possibility of a similar small copper imbedded sleeve that men could wear around the penis. Similar to a ring but it would grip the penis just like that sleeve in the video is wrapped around someone's arm. And being that it's a sleeve it could possibly have the long term added benefit of stretching or holding the penis hanging longer. Just some thoughts!

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Oops here's the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5-Ub9IFYf0

Looks interesting.

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pogzee;630163 said:
where is supra the lord of the ring??? hahahahha;)

IM BACK UP!

I went through a big move and had to re set up my shop for making rings.
 
Not sure what's going on with mine but, I bought one about 2 weeks ago and haven't cut it as the fit was just right. Now it seems like anytime I wear it, it barely fits and it's starting to pop off more due to all the pressure on it. I don't know if that area grew in size from doing PE or not but, I'm having trouble with the ring now.

Just curious where I can buy the silicon tubing by itself so I can cut my own length.
 
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