Learning The LengthMaster

[KingD]

So just so I got this right....you have the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] glan cap and the constriction sleeve(basically a glans cap from the maker of ypur VacHanger) and still get blisters or injuries? Ive used the VacADS for more than 8 hrs., LG Hanger, and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] in the same day and have not got a vaccum based injury. Do you think your injuries are coming from too much force, length of time, or both?

 

[youknowme123321]

So just so I got this right....you have the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] glan cap and the constriction sleeve(basically a glans cap from the maker of ypur VacHanger) and still get blisters or injuries? Ive used the VacADS for more than 8 hrs., LG Hanger, and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] in the same day and have not got a vaccum based injury. Do you think your injuries are coming from too much force, length of time, or both?

i'm sorry, why do you think i have had injuries? i have put in those same high hours in vac systems including an electric vacuum pump in the same day as my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] belt and my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]/phallosan [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] combo, VacHanger3 with no more then 8 lbs and a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] with no injuries.

oooh by contriction sleeve i thought you were talking about the compress sleeve. i didn't know autoextender called their cap a sleeve. i see they also call it a fluid cone. fluid come makes more sense for a proper name since they make and sell sleeves. so with that cleared up i only use sports pre wrap and a glans cap.

with vac hanging or vac stretching it is my belief that it is much more likely to cause injury then traditional hanging or stretching methods. i am curious to see if a way to use hanging systems with intensity equally comparable to tools like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] will ever happen. i have heard of men who hang 20lbs with the VacHanger but it is yet to actually be seen. i also don't know there hanging session parameters.

so how do you wrap for the LG hanger?

 

[KingD]

My mistake too.....I misunderstood by your statement...Are saying that you cant use the 27 lb resistance bands on a vaccum hanger without pretty much guaranteed injuries?....When I use the LG modification on my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], I use the same technique of tightly wrapping my entire glans and a slight amount of shaft with elastic tape and Cohan tape(sports tape that sticks to itself and not skin). Your wrap and conditioning allow you to use great force with vaccum based devices. Im quite sure I exert 20 lbs of pressure during my stretch with my LG modded [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], not to mention I can pump to increase the vaccum pressure which ensures that you can hang as much weight as you want as long as you wrap correctly and condition yourself for it. Honestly there are limits with any device, the key is finding what works for you. Ive even wrapped my glans with Saran wrap before lol.

 

[youknowme123321]

My mistake too.....I misunderstood by your statement...Are saying that you cant use the 27 lb resistance bands on a vaccum hanger without pretty much guaranteed injuries?....When I use the LG modification on my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], I use the same technique of tightly wrapping my entire glans and a slight amount of shaft with elastic tape and Cohan tape(sports tape that sticks to itself and not skin). Your wrap and conditioning allow you to use great force with vaccum based devices. Im quite sure I exert 20 lbs of pressure during my stretch with my LG modded [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], not to mention I can pump to increase the vaccum pressure which ensures that you can hang as much weight as you want as long as you wrap correctly and condition yourself for it. Honestly there are limits with any device, the key is finding what works for you. Ive even wrapped my glans with Saran wrap before lol.

hmmm saran wrap...i never thought of that but am interested in trying it just b/c it is cheap and you get a lot. i am saying that i won't try to get up to 27lbs using resistance bands (at least not anytime soon). i use a digital scale to measure how much weight i am using exactly with resistance bands. 20 lbs over a 30 second period stretching will be much different then 20 lbs over 5, 10, 15 or more minutes straight. but repeated 30 second 20 lbs stretches are a different story. i would argue if a person is doing a 30 minutes vac chamber stretching session that as that 30 minutes goes by there exerted force which "may" have been 20 lbs at first is down to less then 10 lbs possibly at 5 lbs without them even realizing it. that is why i perform stretches using resistant bands. absolutely no muscle fatigue occurs and i know exactly how much force i am achieving.

I will believe men are doing high intensity vacuum PE work when videos are shown of it. i expect that won't happen until i make those and i am working on getting up to high intensity vac hanging and stretching. right now i am not yet certain whether it is possible or not.

i agree with wrapping and condition. that is why i am continuing to work with the VacHanger. below is a link to my first time using the the VH3. i'll be making similar posts in the future for it just with more experience behind them...and conditioning

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...ideos-and-pics-vachanger3-first-time-use.html

 

[KingD]

Okay your talking about the force of the resistance band versus the force from my hands while using the LG modded LenghtMaster right?....I have used the resistance band technique before with the first [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words](check the second page of this thread)and you get the full strength of the band only when it is full extended. So your 27 lb band will only equal be 27 lb worth when it is full stretched out. Without the assistance of your digital scale you would not know the amount of force you are getting from the band which is exactly the same thing as using your hands as the stretching force. You are free to believe what you want with vaccum based devices, but if you stick around long enough you are going to see that you were wrong about them. They can be as good or even better than constriction based devices just because of the increased circulation allows you to hang more weight longer without fear of decreased circulation. But whatever works for you. Thats the name of the PE game lol. I know you might be skeptical but I can guarntee whatever you do with your bands, I can do it with my setup because I have done it before.

 

[KingD]

OK fellas!!! Ive seen some interest in my LG Hanger/Lengthmaster setup, so maybe updating this thread with some new pics and info would help anyone interested. Here is how I attach my LG Hanger to the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words]View attachment 33221 Its very basic and it allows me to lengthen or shorten the string that attaches the LG Hanger to the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words]. It seems like something simple, but it can make your stretches more intense and your sessions more comfortable depending on the length of string you use. Here are a few pics of me using my setup during my length sessions. You can really see the intense stretch I get from the pics.View attachment 33222View attachment 33223View attachment 33224View attachment 33225 I hope this helps you guys looking into this setup. FYI: I got a crazy great tip for other [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] owners who do not have a LG Hanger. STAY TUNED PEers!!!!

 

[DLD]

I updated the images so they show.

 

[KingD]

Thanks DLD! I got some more on the way lol

 

[KingD]

OK fellas! Here is a serious tip for anyone that uses the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] and has to wrap. The two best things that I have discovered that work best for wrapping for the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] are soft gauze from the drug store(the kind the doctor wraps you with before applying a cast) and bondage tape. They are both cheap and provide some serious comfort and security to your penis during a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] session. Here are few pics that will give you a better idea of what I am talking about.View attachment 33229View attachment 33230View attachment 33231View attachment 33232 The advantage of the bondage tape is that it stretches and it sticks to itself so there is never a problem securing it. This stuff is pretty handy too. I'm experimenting with using it as a clamp substitute to, so I'll let you guys know how that goes. Wrapping with these 2 can cut your wrapping time and make getting a comfortable and secure wrap on your penis for a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] session quick and easy. Let me know if you guys need anymore help.

 

[DLD]

Thanks DLD! I got some more on the way lol

I will link those for you too.

 

[KingD]

How are you doing that DLD?.....I dont want to put you to work every time I post lol

 

[DLD]

How are you doing that DLD?.....I dont want to put you to work every time I post lol

Simple. Click on the link, it will bring you to the actual picture, copy that url, insert it between image tags and presto, the pictures show.

 

[KingD]

Word! Thanks for that info DLD. It wil surely help me posting.

 

[DLD]

Word! Thanks for that info DLD. It wil surely help me posting.

No problem. Pictures can be tricky on old fashion software like [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words].

 

[Stakada]

King D do you still use your LG hanger with your [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words]? Or are you now using that wrap? Also do you put the gauze on first and then the bondage tape? Or a layer of tape then gauze then tape? I am still in experimentation mode with my wrap.

 

[KingD]

Hey STAKADA! I use the wrap when I want to give my penis a break from stretching with vaccum pressure and as a backup just in case I don't have any silicone sleeves for the LG Hanger vaccum chamber. I wrap with the cotton guaze first, then I wrap with the bondage tape while stretching it to tightly secure my wrap. The harder you stretch the bondage tape while wrapping, the tighter it will grip your penis. Well wrapping in itself requires experimentation to find put what works for you. That's how I found this wrap so keep on experimenting with what you can and find what works for you. I hope this helps you. What do you use for a wrap?

 

[Stakada]

Thanks for the reply KingD. I have been using two 1.5 inch wide strips of self adhesive sports wrap 12 inches long wrapped around my penis, followed by a gauze pad cut to 3 inches wide and 8 inches long that's fairly thick wrapped around my penis twice, followed by 1 more layer of sports adhesive wrap on top of the gauze pad to tighten it up. I have had it feel pretty good and then feel quite painful.

 

[KingD]

My guess is that either your wrapping isn't secure enough or your wrapping technique might need to be adjusted. Every penis is different, so a straight forward wrapping technique might not work for your penis. When I wrap I have to pull my skin in two directions to find the perfect spot for my wrap. Your first later of wrap should be right enough to grip then penis without slippage while remaining a protective cushion. Test by wrapping and than manually pulling your penis. Slowly increase intensity and feel if there is an area that get slippage. I hope that tip helps you avoid injury.

 

[Stakada]

I am thinking the sports self adhesive tape may be to rough and that a layer of gauze used first may be more comfortable like the way you do it.

 

[Stakada]

Ok your wrap is amazing. It was nearly effortless and super comfortable. Honestly I didn't see how I wouldn't have pain using a clamp on my penis and was prepared for it to hurt a bit. Using your wrap at first I thought there was no way in hell this was going to hold because it was so comfortable but it did. The gauze and bondage tape is fantastic. So glad I found your thread and thanks a bunch for your help.

 

[KingD]

That's great to hear STACKADA! It's all about finding what works, readily available(so other members can find it too), and cheap. I'm glad to hear it works for you and that now your workouts can be more productive and injury free workoutcuz those PE injuries suck lol

 

[DLD]

Everyone will learn to wrap as long as they follow the steps above. Everyone is different and will need to see what works best for the but there is something for everyone.

 

[ULTIM8GAINZ]

So smart! SO SMART! I am grabbing some of this...are you sure it is safe for skin?

1) DLD have you tried the liquid grip with silicone sleeve as a wrap for your [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]? If so, thoughts compared to other wraps?

2) What is your current or best ever wrapping method personally for your [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] if you still are using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]?

 

[ULTIM8GAINZ]

Ok guys, I'm back!! Yesterday I used my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] in way way that SUPRA used with a slight twist. I already have an old [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words], but I stopped using it because it developed a tear right under the handlebar area, that prevents it from staying on. Since this method is based on the fact that I is secured by the pressure of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] being clamped onto your penis, than I figured that The tear would not effect the way that I wanted to use it. I looked thru some old boxes and found my [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words], washed it good, and prepared for my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] routine. It only took me 3 tries to get the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]TLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] on the way that I wanted, but once it was on, it stayed on. Instead of the door insulation, I used used some Thera band. Once I clamped the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] onto my penis I could feel the pressure from the head of my penis pressing against the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] cone, securing it's grip even further. Now SUPRA told me that this method would work the ligs out and boy was he telling the truth. I did my first tug and I was thrown off guard a little because I intensity of the lig pull can really be felt. I did my routine and had to take some pics since no one was around. All I can say is that this method was insane. After my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] workout, I pulling out my PowerJelq device and did over 300 Jelqs(don't count anymore, I just do what feels good, but I did count up to 300 lol). I even took some pics, including a girth measurement pic( I couldn't find a ruler for my length measurement, so I'll leave it as a surprise for myself now lol). All I can say is that the method that SUPRA suggested is the best thing for ligs stretches. Not only did it do everything SUPRA said that is would, but it even resulted in my penis feeling fatigued and hanging longer all day. To do my jelqs with the PowerJelq device, I use two pieces of VACADS sleeve to really focus on my penis and to prevent scrotum skin from getting pulled. That are what those two blue things are, plus they aid in maintaining an erection. here are the pics and if ya have any questions or comments, feel free to post.
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] Routine

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http://fs1.hidemyass.com/img/EhAoy.jpg

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http://fs1.hidemyass.com/img/pKxQm.jpg



Results After [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] Routine

http://fs1.hidemyass.com/img/wchEY.jpg

http://fs1.hidemyass.com/img/rmdzA.jpg


During And After PowerJelq Routine

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GIRTH MEASUREMENT PIC!!!!! THAT'S RIGHT!!! IT SAYS 7 INCHES IN GIRTH(AND THAT"S ONLY MID-SHAFT)!!!!THE BASE IS EVEN THICKER !!! THANK GOD FOR Penis Enlargement!!!

http://fs1.hidemyass.com/img/tfE3F.jpg

IN MY HAND(WHICH ARE HUGE ANYWAYS)

http://fs1.hidemyass.com/img/AqDz3.jpg


Thanks to DLD for creating Penis Enlargement and creating an amazing forum for others to share their experiences and ideas and thanks SUPRA for all that you have contributed to Penis Enlargement. Happy Penis Enlargementing guys!!

Do you have these pics anymore because the pictures are not showing up? Just trying to picture the theraband and [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tlc[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] wrap for the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]. By the way for this session did you only use theraband for the wrap compared to your other wrapping methods which had multiple wraps?

 

[ULTIM8GAINZ]

Hey STAKADA! I use the wrap when I want to give my penis a break from stretching with vaccum pressure and as a backup just in case I don't have any silicone sleeves for the LG Hanger vaccum chamber. I wrap with the cotton guaze first, then I wrap with the bondage tape while stretching it to tightly secure my wrap. The harder you stretch the bondage tape while wrapping, the tighter it will grip your penis. Well wrapping in itself requires experimentation to find put what works for you. That's how I found this wrap so keep on experimenting with what you can and find what works for you. I hope this helps you. What do you use for a wrap?

Are you using the silicone sleeve to secure the LG hanger cap better to the glans? Or what is the reasoning for it, like could you do the LG hanger and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] combo without the sleeve? Or what are the other benefits if not for the security of the LG hanger?

 

[DLD]

King D has not been around for a while, hopefully this question will bring him back.

 

[REDZULU2003]

I've used the silicone sleeves from MoS with the lengthmaster, and it works fine.

 

[DLD]

I've used the silicone sleeves from MoS with the lengthmaster, and it works fine.

What a fucking coincidence I just sent @Lightning a message that said we should start including a sleeve with the length master what we can afford it. LOL great minds think a like.

 

[huge-girth]

I'm still having thoughts of combining the length master and bathmate together for daily sessions. But Red scared me when he said something like, training girth before length would delay length gains.

Can't I use my length master and bathmate daily and still gain 1 inch in length this Year along with girth?

 

[REDZULU2003]

You can do that, its just my thoughts on the matter .. I could be wrong.

 

[DLD]

You can do that, its just my thoughts on the matter .. I could be wrong.

No you’re correct. If you’re going to be doing girth and length in the same day then it’s smart to do length first before girth.Once you have done girth work and your penis has expanded it becomes difficult to stretch due to the erectile tissue. So yes you can do both in the same day but be sure to do length before girth.

 

[REDZULU2003]

Yeah, but I think I took the thinking more in depth, perhaps confusing matters by my theory with a thicker penis gaining length being more difficult versus a thinner penis gaining length, due to more size being needed.

 

[DLD]

Yeah, but I think I took the thinking more in depth, perhaps confusing matters by my theory with a thicker penis gaining length being more difficult versus a thinner penis gaining length, due to more size being needed.

?? Very good and important discussion. I don’t think you took it too far in depth the subject has been thought on for a long time. I talked about it a lot in the thread called “The penis is a balloon not they rope” In that study I also said that once in a while it makes sense to do length after girth to see if there is any potential for stretching the erectile tissue after girth work. So just to be cautious I said to do one workout a week where you do girth first and the remainder of the week do you length first.


“I have read many posts in my time on the impact of girth effecting length and visa-versa. Some men believe training girth may hinder length gains and I want to debate this. In my opinion Length and Girth not only complement each other but a small gain in both directions increase the total size of your penis then if you made the same gain in any single area

I hear people comparing the penis to rope or a rubber band stating that it is easier to stretch a thinner rope or band in comparison to a thicker one. I completely agree with this theory but I feel it is a poor penile comparison. The penis is more like a balloon as it is filled with blood when we get an erection and emptied when we are flaccid.

The reason I debate this is simple you can't fill a rope with liquid so it is impossible to expand the rope through increasing thickness. But you can expand a balloon length and thickness by increasing its load capacity. When you fill a balloon past it’s capacity it not only grows wider but longer too. The penis is very similar to balloon in that when we fill it with blood during an erection it expands outward and upward.

With that said I think it is a bad decision to neglect girth in hopes for better length gains. I have always trained both Length and Girth with as much intensity as the other with very good results. What are your opinions?”

Direct link:
The Penis is a BALLOON not a ROPE - Matters of Size | Penis Enlargement, Male Enhancement & Peyronies Forums

 

[REDZULU2003]

Certainly with myself I have found it harder to gain length with the girth increasing, but if I hammered it with intensity such as hanging, it would have no choice but to grow. However, chances of injury increase with that.

 

[DLD]

Certainly with myself I have found it harder to gain length with the girth increasing, but if I hammered it with intensity such as hanging, it would have no choice but to grow. However, chances of injury increase with that.

The greater the risk the bigger the reward! ??But of course we should use as much caution as possible but I’ve always been on the side of working out hard-core.

 

[huge-girth]

Let me get to my length goal first before focusing on girth. I am looking length master exercises that i haven't done before. I need to change my routine in 2 weeks time.

I remember Red said the dld blasters is very effective for length. Can you guys tell me how the dld blasters is done? Or direct me to where I can watch a video of it being done?

 

[DLD]

Just go to the play site that’s open for free now to the public. You’ll find a video for that exercise and every other exercise and to possibly imagine. Just go to www.mattersofsize.com/access and check out the audiovisual section

 

[huge-girth]

Thanks very much Boss.

 

[DLD]

Always and forever <3