4-hour self-induced erection

[goldmember]

Guys,

Just the other day, I tried the 4-hour erection technique found in the thread "enlargement through frequent erections", kinda trying to simulate priapism. I used no drugs or OTC's to induce this erection, just adult entertainment.

Aside from being mind-numbing (4 hours in front of adult entertainment), it seemed extremely effective, and I noticed fatigue after about 90 minutes. The erection was kept to about 90-100% for the whole four hours. The potential for gains with this technique was very obvious to me this morning when I was not able to do my normal Penis Enlargement routine due to soreness (see link in signature).

Now, my next dilema is finding a way to induce this four-hour erection without being in front of a computer, after all it is very time-consuming and mind-numbing. I figured possibly a PGE1 injection and using some type of strap to keep the erection in the up position, while wearing loose pants and a shirt that covers the crotch (like what you'd wear to cover a Vimax).

The theory behind this technique was discussed in two other threads:
"enlargement through frequent erections"-DLD
"how to avoid corpse dick"-D0zer (or something along those lines)

also try searching the word "priapism".

 

[RazedNegative]

I wish I could sustain a 4 hour erection and I would love to try this! I have liquid cialis, but I think even with that I wouldnt be able to stay hard for no 4 hours. That's like work! Good job tho bud, sounds like you maybe be on to something.

 

[large1]

Hey Goldmember.
You should seriously consider prostaglandin injections.For most of the time you don´t even have to stimulate yourself.
Yesterday I was wearing a rubber cockring around the whole package for 1.5 hours and a tight steel cockring around the shaft for the next 2 hours.
The workout you get from this without even touching your dick is incredible.
You won´t be dissapointed.

 

[goldmember]

Hey Goldmember.
You should seriously consider prostaglandin injections.For most of the time you don´t even have to stimulate yourself.
Yesterday I was wearing a rubber cockring around the whole package for 1.5 hours and a tight steel cockring around the shaft for the next 2 hours.
The workout you get from this without even touching your dick is incredible.
You won´t be dissapointed.

For me, the problem would be availability of PGE1...right now, it is cost prohibitive for me, not to mention finding a source. But one day I hope to find a method where this can be done either while sleeping or with clothes on, as I described in my first post, with maybe the only limitation being confined to your house or other private setting.

For those who don't know, large1 is doing this very technique every day, using PGE1 injections as he already mentioned. Maybe you should post your routine on this thread, large1, so everyone can see...along with your gains so far?

 

[franz]

Years ago when I was still stupid and doing methamphetamine I had painful hard erections lasting hours rather often, but I am pretty sure I did not gain anything from them regarding length and girth.

Whilst I am sure that frequent masturbation and pulling back and forth the foreskin (as I was teached to do to prevent phimosis) in (pre)puberty has had positive effects (I have stretcHydromaxarks from this time and remember some painful moments getting them) I think for a fullgrown man this results in about zilch, nada, nothing.
I even suspect that this can end badly - self induced priapism is not something to play with as I believe.

regards

 

[lickmonstr]

thanks for sharing that goldmember. I will try this in the near future. I'll try first by spending maybe 1 hour in front of adult entertainment. The mind numbness you mentioned is real! After prolonged periods of exposure to adult entertainment, one's mind can be "locked" in that realm! Now, maybe a technique to keep a 4 our erection while fucking?

 

[Nelly Gay]

Guys,

Just the other day, I tried the 4-hour erection technique found in the thread "enlargement through frequent erections", kinda trying to simulate priapism. I used no drugs or OTC's to induce this erection, just adult entertainment.

Aside from being mind-numbing (4 hours in front of adult entertainment), it seemed extremely effective, and I noticed fatigue after about 90 minutes. The erection was kept to about 90-100% for the whole four hours. The potential for gains with this technique was very obvious to me this morning when I was not able to do my normal Penis Enlargement routine due to soreness (see link in signature).

Now, my next dilema is finding a way to induce this four-hour erection without being in front of a computer, after all it is very time-consuming and mind-numbing. I figured possibly a PGE1 injection and using some type of strap to keep the erection in the up position, while wearing loose pants and a shirt that covers the crotch (like what you'd wear to cover a Vimax).

The theory behind this technique was discussed in two other threads:
"enlargement through frequent erections"-DLD
"how to avoid corpse dick"-D0zer (or something along those lines)

also try searching the word "priapism".

Probably not a good idea ...
Many men present at Accident & Emergency with painful erections (priapism).
The penile tissues can be damaged permanently !
When I had a circumcision a while back I had oedema of the shaft, tight skin and permanent priapisms for weeks.
HOT (not cold) baths helped ..

 

[Asanon]

The mind numbness you mentioned is real! After prolonged periods of exposure to adult entertainment, one's mind can be "locked" in that realm!

Example ..... in your normal life you're probably not going to be watching one girl leading another one around by a choke collar and chain, warming each other up so you can go over in a minute or two and shank `em both in the ass while they munch each other. Etc, etc, etc, ...

It takes erotic interest (you have to be turned on by something) in order to initiate the nitric oxide cascade to move from the nerve endings to the vessel walls themselves (where it reaches self-sustaining status, aka - Wood.)

If something falls below your erotic threshold, you're way way way way less likely to get Wood from it. For the point of this conversation .. specifically speaking of the range of 'normal' sex one is actually likely to have.

If you pr0n yourself for hours a day .... there's practically no way real life can keep up with that for you.

Protracted states of excitation create chemical changes in the brain ... which expect to reach similar levels the -next- time.

Eventually, if the -next- time is just some regular old boy-girl sex, even worse-so with someone you've known for a while, you'll find that you're reaching levels of sado-sexually damaged erotic thresholds where that's just not doing it for you like it used to.

The mind doesn't differentiate largely between real and imagined stimulus. This is the mechanism that lets people practise basketball free throw shots just by going over it in their mind, for instance.

Dose yourself with material of un-naturally high excitation levels and later 'normal' isn't as shiny as it oughta be... as it -used- to be ... because you're practised, imprinted, on pr0n levels of excitation.

There's another mechanism at work there too and it's the dopamine/endorphins/oxytocin cocktail that makes you 'high', which you want to return to again, and the (for this sense, False) sense of pleasure and reward, which you want to return to again.

Not only can people reach a point where 'normal' - real, actual, Live- sex (with someone besides yourself and your imagination) isn't as shiny anymore .... they'll actually reach a point of -preferring- pr0n to real sex because the excitation levels and the high for actual sex isn't doing it for them anymore. They've kept oversaturating and dulling their erotic sense until reality can't turn their crank.

The most obvious modern media example of this spiral is Playboy's founder, who (yeah, he's like 77 years old - but apparently it's been like this for a while according to one of his ex 'girlfriends') needs five Playboy Playmates writhing around the room - while he's on massive amounts of viagra - and instead of looking at them he's watching Gay-Male adult entertainment - so he can sortof get it up and sortof schlock it into one of the Playmates.

Please, .... shoot me first. Holy cow!

Anyway, .... I can see the argument: chasing priapistic growth effects anecdotally (by simply this mechanism) possible for sufferers of sickle cell anemia -- while avoiding the celluar hypoxia that accompanies clamping lividity ... but just keep an eye and a measure on your non-adult entertainment interest and performance. Such things ( multi-hour adult entertainment wood) don't happen without confounding chemical and pyschological dynamics in play....

That methodology is incorrectly asserted. It's not "a 4-hour self-induced erection" ... it's a 4-hour adult entertainment-induced erection ... which might later lead to a 4-minute girlfriend-induced almost-erection. And that'd suck. :drowning:

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[Vaseline_Knight]

For me, the problem would be availability of PGE1...right now, it is cost prohibitive for me, not to mention finding a source. But one day I hope to find a method where this can be done either while sleeping or with clothes on, as I described in my first post, with maybe the only limitation being confined to your house or other private setting.

For those who don't know, large1 is doing this very technique every day, using PGE1 injections as he already mentioned. Maybe you should post your routine on this thread, large1, so everyone can see...along with your gains so far?

I'd be extremely interested to see what large1 has gained through this.

 

[goldmember]

thanks for sharing that goldmember. I will try this in the near future. I'll try first by spending maybe 1 hour in front of adult entertainment. The mind numbness you mentioned is real! After prolonged periods of exposure to adult entertainment, one's mind can be "locked" in that realm! Now, maybe a technique to keep a 4 our erection while fucking?

talk about beatin' that pussy up!

 

[goldmember]

When I had a circumcision a while back I had oedema of the shaft, tight skin and permanent priapisms for weeks.
HOT (not cold) baths helped ..

didnt seem harmful to me. remember, it isn't actual pripism...I can make it go limp any time I want!

 

[goldmember]

Years ago when I was still stupid and doing methamphetamine I had painful hard erections lasting hours rather often, but I am pretty sure I did not gain anything from them regarding length and girth.

Whilst I am sure that frequent masturbation and pulling back and forth the foreskin (as I was teached to do to prevent phimosis) in (pre)puberty has had positive effects (I have stretcHydromaxarks from this time and remember some painful moments getting them) I think for a fullgrown man this results in about zilch, nada, nothing.
I even suspect that this can end badly - self induced priapism is not something to play with as I believe.

regards

Interesting. But the results from the Penis Enlargement PATENT speak for themselves.

 

[goldmember]

Excellent post. I agree, noone should subject themself to 4 hours of adult entertainment on a regular basis, if at all. I am searching for an alternative method.

Example ..... in your normal life you're probably not going to be watching one girl leading another one around by a choke collar and chain, warming each other up so you can go over in a minute or two and shank `em both in the ass while they munch each other. Etc, etc, etc, ...

It takes erotic interest (you have to be turned on by something) in order to initiate the nitric oxide cascade to move from the nerve endings to the vessel walls themselves (where it reaches self-sustaining status, aka - Wood.)

If something falls below your erotic threshold, you're way way way way less likely to get Wood from it. For the point of this conversation .. specifically speaking of the range of 'normal' sex one is actually likely to have.

If you pr0n yourself for hours a day .... there's practically no way real life can keep up with that for you.

Protracted states of excitation create chemical changes in the brain ... which expect to reach similar levels the -next- time.

Eventually, if the -next- time is just some regular old boy-girl sex, even worse-so with someone you've known for a while, you'll find that you're reaching levels of sado-sexually damaged erotic thresholds where that's just not doing it for you like it used to.

The mind doesn't differentiate largely between real and imagined stimulus. This is the mechanism that lets people practise basketball free throw shots just by going over it in their mind, for instance.

Dose yourself with material of un-naturally high excitation levels and later 'normal' isn't as shiny as it oughta be... as it -used- to be ... because you're practised, imprinted, on pr0n levels of excitation.

There's another mechanism at work there too and it's the dopamine/endorphins/oxytocin cocktail that makes you 'high', which you want to return to again, and the (for this sense, False) sense of pleasure and reward, which you want to return to again.

Not only can people reach a point where 'normal' - real, actual, Live- sex (with someone besides yourself and your imagination) isn't as shiny anymore .... they'll actually reach a point of -preferring- pr0n to real sex because the excitation levels and the high for actual sex isn't doing it for them anymore. They've kept oversaturating and dulling their erotic sense until reality can't turn their crank.

The most obvious modern media example of this spiral is Playboy's founder, who (yeah, he's like 77 years old - but apparently it's been like this for a while according to one of his ex 'girlfriends') needs five Playboy Playmates writhing around the room - while he's on massive amounts of viagra - and instead of looking at them he's watching Gay-Male adult entertainment - so he can sortof get it up and sortof schlock it into one of the Playmates.

Please, .... shoot me first. Holy cow!

Anyway, .... I can see the argument: chasing priapistic growth effects anecdotally (by simply this mechanism) possible for sufferers of sickle cell anemia -- while avoiding the celluar hypoxia that accompanies clamping lividity ... but just keep an eye and a measure on your non-adult entertainment interest and performance. Such things ( multi-hour adult entertainment wood) don't happen without confounding chemical and pyschological dynamics in play....

That methodology is incorrectly asserted. It's not "a 4-hour self-induced erection" ... it's a 4-hour adult entertainment-induced erection ... which might later lead to a 4-minute girlfriend-induced almost-erection. And that'd suck. :drowning:

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[redpubes]

I think you are supposed to go to the hospital if it is up for that long. How do they get it down? Do they take blood or something?

 

[large1]

Thanx for the instruction,goldmember. At this point I don´t really have a routine anymore.
Like I told you in a previous pm I inject the prostaglandin,get hard within .2 seconds,put a rubber cockring around the base (pretty tight) for about 1 hour without even touching my dick,put a tight metal cockring around the shaft for another 2 hours (sometimes 3 hours).While approaching the end I start to do some squeezes and slow squash jelqs for about half to a full hour.
That´s basically it.
The steel cockring I started to wear about 4 weeks ago when I had the feeling that I have to go up in intensity.
The "workout" you get from this is just unbelievable.It´s more intense then anything I did before and you have to be very advanced!!!
Definetly nothing for newbies!!
Within the first 3 months I gained 0.5 inch in girth (permanentely) and so far only 0.125 inch in length<
But since I upped the intensity I know that there are great things to come.
You´re dick feels exausted after a workout in the evening to the next afternoon and it feels much stretchier in the morning.
I´m not gonna quit it for the next 12 months cause all in all it´s not really work but fun even if your erection with the cockring on are sometimes pretty "painful" (but not unbearable).
Any more questions?

 

[large1]

Just took a quick bpfsl measurement.Guess what? It´s 0.375 inch longer then it was a month ago.That´s when I started to do flaccid stretches in the morning.Once again no real routine,just stretching all directions,sometimes half an hour,sometimes one and half.
Hopefully I can get there erect real fast.A couple of days ago I measured 8.125 bpel for the first time.Flaccid stretch is now up to a tad over 8.5.
Like I said,there are great things to come
Whatever,if I can get to 9 inches in the next 12 months I´m more then happy.

 

[goldmember]

very promising. keep us posted.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

very promising indeed.

where do you get these injections, and how much is it costing you per shot?

 

[large1]

I get´em from the pharmacy in Germany (where I live).It´s a prescription drug but luckily I have my connections.
A six week supply costs about 160 Euros ( I think that´s about 150 dollars ) but it´s worth a fortune.
I get raging hardons for hours and when I have sex my girlfriend starts complaining cause it hurts sometimes.But most of the time she reaches her first orgasm after 5 minutes and then comes 2 more times.
She knows about my Penis Enlargement and even though she´s into size she doesn´t want it to be any
bigger.She says it´s huge.
And even though I know she´s totally sincere I want it to be at least 9 inches in length.Oh well...I know I share this mentality with a lot of guys here.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

I get´em from the pharmacy in Germany (where I live).It´s a prescription drug but luckily I have my connections.
A six week supply costs about 160 Euros ( I think that´s about 150 dollars ) but it´s worth a fortune.
I get raging hardons for hours and when I have sex my girlfriend starts complaining cause it hurts sometimes.But most of the time she reaches her first orgasm after 5 minutes and then comes 2 more times.
She knows about my Penis Enlargement and even though she´s into size she doesn´t want it to be any
bigger.She says it´s huge.
And even though I know she´s totally sincere I want it to be at least 9 inches in length.Oh well...I know I share this mentality with a lot of guys here.

I honestly have come to the conclusion that size only matters for looks. A large cock is just much more appealing for women than a small one. as far as sex goes, it's almost all technique. Yes a thicker cock might feel slightly better than a thinner one, but nothing technique can't compensate.

At my current size, I don't 'need' to be bigger. But being bigger just turns me on so much. Penis Enlargement is my selfish side taking control.

you're lucky for as far as the injections go. Even getting these medications here in canada is almost impossible, and I'm faily certain it wont be as cheap as you're getting them. But then again, I don't have the balls to inject my dick with anything.

I'm wondering, isn't it bad for you to have the cock ring on for that long without new blood comming in? as well, wouldn't one get the same results from clamping and edging?

 

[NewGuy311]

Last night i gave this a try but only did 90 minuts just to see what it was like. Tonight im going to go for 2 hours, my question is, is it ok to cum once i reach the 2 hour mark?

 

[goldmember]

Last night i gave this a try but only did 90 minuts just to see what it was like. Tonight im going to go for 2 hours, my question is, is it ok to cum once i reach the 2 hour mark?

I actually had about 6 orgasms during the 4 hours. It is very difficult to avoid, as anyone who tries this will see. HOWEVER, I did one thing that saved my workout, and that is flex my PC muscle hard enough that I DID NOT EJACULATE. If you ejaculate, I imagine you would lose desire to keep the erection and/or it will be difficult to become 100% erect for at least 20 minutes or more. The key is staying close to 100% for as close to the entire duration as possible, although the Penis Enlargement Patent suggests 40-90% erection, I would have to say 90-100%.

 

[franz]

I actually had about 6 orgasms during the 4 hours. It is very difficult to avoid, as anyone who tries this will see. HOWEVER, I did one thing that saved my workout, and that is flex my PC muscle hard enough that I DID NOT EJACULATE. If you ejaculate, I imagine you would lose desire to keep the erection and/or it will be difficult to become 100% erect for at least 20 minutes or more. The key is staying close to 100% for as close to the entire duration as possible, although the Penis Enlargement Patent suggests 40-90% erection, I would have to say 90-100%.

After my best of knowledge when one doesn´t ejaculate during a real orgasm it´s just going backwards into the bladder. Look under Yogi/Tantra and such things.

That must be some strange orgasms otherwise.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

After my best of knowledge when one doesn´t ejaculate during a real orgasm it´s just going backwards into the bladder. Look under Yogi/Tantra and such things.

That must be some strange orgasms otherwise.

Not true. You're referring to a 'Renegate orgasm' if I recall correctly.
Orgasm however, happens several seconds before ejaculation. With Taoist practice, one can seperate the two processes, and orgasm as many times as possible without ejaculating. That's actually the whole basis of Taoist teaching, as They believe ejaculation is bad for a man.

 

[Chi]

"Renegate orgasm"!!!! lol rotfl!!

You mean Retrograde orgasm. And I completely agree with you, and I can orgasm and not ejaculate by clampling really hard on my bc muscle when I orgasm and not letting go until I'm past that. The key for me is to keep holding the bc clamped for around 30 sec to 1 min AFTER orgasm is over. So I hold around a minute full force.

I have gotten retrograde ejaculation when I clamp or press with my hand, obstructing the way for the semen. Afterwards I always have always noticed semen in my next piss.

So these are different things, and the orgasms feel different too.

 

[goldmember]

"Renegate orgasm"!!!! lol rotfl!!

You mean Retrograde orgasm. And I completely agree with you, and I can orgasm and not ejaculate by clampling really hard on my bc muscle when I orgasm and not letting go until I'm past that. The key for me is to keep holding the bc clamped for around 30 sec to 1 min AFTER orgasm is over. So I hold around a minute full force.

I have gotten retrograde ejaculation when I clamp or press with my hand, obstructing the way for the semen. Afterwards I always have always noticed semen in my next piss.

So these are different things, and the orgasms feel different too.

It certainly is retrograde ejaculation, but somehow is accompanied by a much shorter refractory period than a normal ejaculation. I also notice semen in my urine (bubbles look different...almost like soap film) so it is without a doubt going into the bladder.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

"Renegate orgasm"!!!! lol rotfl!!

You mean Retrograde orgasm. And I completely agree with you, and I can orgasm and not ejaculate by clampling really hard on my bc muscle when I orgasm and not letting go until I'm past that. The key for me is to keep holding the bc clamped for around 30 sec to 1 min AFTER orgasm is over. So I hold around a minute full force.

I have gotten retrograde ejaculation when I clamp or press with my hand, obstructing the way for the semen. Afterwards I always have always noticed semen in my next piss.

So these are different things, and the orgasms feel different too.

ya I'm an idiot.. sorry. Thanks for the correction.

the problem i have is when i tighten my PC muscle, during orgasm it just involentarily starts to pulsate/contract and shoots out the sperm.

when you say you tighten your BC muscle rather than PC.. u mean you do a hard kegel and hold it?

and where do you press down hard with ur hand? its supposed to be on a point called 'the million dollar point' between the ass and the ball. I'm having problems finding this magic spot. supposedly if you press down on this point you wont even have a 'Renegate orgasm' :blush: .. you will not ejcatulate at all. but still have the feeling.

 

[prince Albert]

ya I'm an idiot.. sorry. Thanks for the correction.

the problem i have is when i tighten my PC muscle, during orgasm it just involentarily starts to pulsate/contract and shoots out the sperm.

when you say you tighten your BC muscle rather than PC.. u mean you do a hard kegel and hold it?

and where do you press down hard with ur hand? its supposed to be on a point called 'the million dollar point' between the ass and the ball. I'm having problems finding this magic spot. supposedly if you press down on this point you wont even have a 'Renegate orgasm' :blush: .. you will not ejcatulate at all. but still have the feeling.

Ive done this a couple of times i just press hard on no mans land,the point just above your bullet hole,you have the feeling of an orgasm and can feel a pulsing under your finger but no ejaculation,a couple of seconds after the orgasm finishes if i kegal hard i get a big load of cum in one go.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

Ive done this a couple of times i just press hard on no mans land,the point just above your bullet hole,you have the feeling of an orgasm and can feel a pulsing under your finger but no ejaculation,a couple of seconds after the orgasm finishes if i kegal hard i get a big load of cum in one go.

if you dont kegel, no cum?

 

[prince Albert]

if you dont kegel, no cum?

I get a small amount similar to pre-cum,then later my pee looks cloudy.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

I get a small amount similar to pre-cum,then later my pee looks cloudy.

ya that's the whole retrograde orgasm we're talking about.
apparently if you do it right, you wont even get that.

 

[Chi]

ya that's the whole retrograde orgasm we're talking about.
apparently if you do it right, you wont even get that.

That's what I meant, If I kegel real hard and long I DON'T ejaculate at all, I mean not retrograde nor anything. Just orgasm.

If I encircle my shaft with my hand and press (but not kegel) THEN when I orgasm I have a retrograde ejaculation, becouse semen doesn't go out but into my bladder instead.

I have never tried pressing between my anus and ballsack when I orgasm, but I remember and old girlfriend sometimes pressed me there while having sex(never asked, but I think she had "learned" something somewhere) I will try that while orgasming.

BC muscle is the muscle we use for kegels. This the probably the most common confusion in Penis Enlargement. The PC and BC are two different muscle groups, but anyway, they are together and most people can't isolate one from another and so contract them both together (and some others too, even abs!)

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

That's what I meant, If I kegel real hard and long I DON'T ejaculate at all, I mean not retrograde nor anything. Just orgasm.

If I encircle my shaft with my hand and press (but not kegel) THEN when I orgasm I have a retrograde ejaculation, becouse semen doesn't go out but into my bladder instead.

I have never tried pressing between my anus and ballsack when I orgasm, but I remember and old girlfriend sometimes pressed me there while having sex(never asked, but I think she had "learned" something somewhere) I will try that while orgasming.

BC muscle is the muscle we use for kegels. This the probably the most common confusion in Penis Enlargement. The PC and BC are two different muscle groups, but anyway, they are together and most people can't isolate one from another and so contract them both together (and some others too, even abs!)

how can you differentiate between BC and PC muslces?

 

[goinfor11x7]

Ask DLD. I'm sure he has an answer.

 

[goinfor11x7]

Can't you try edging to produce a four hour erection? I have, and it worked quite well, I might add. Four hours is a lot for me. But two to three hours? No problem.

If my woody starts to fade, I just go into my private adult entertainment parlor, in my brain. With a full-blown fantasy, it works for me better than adult entertainment. And it's damn fun!!!! Use your imagination, fellow P.E.ers!!!!

 

[Chi]

how can you differentiate between BC and PC muslces?

Too long to explain. Basically, try this to feel it. Do this:

1.- Start with a very weak kegel. That is your BC.

2.- Increase force until you feel a very weak contraction in Uranus (not a planet anymore by the way), I mean in your anus. That is your sphincter outer muscle.

3.- Increase force further. That is your PC.

Most Penis Enlargementers don't even know the difference. And becouse Dr.Kegel reccomended excercising the PC (this is for WOMEN's health), the name kegels was used in Penis Enlargement too and yadda yadadad.... you can figure the rest out.
PC in women: good for vagina, in men, not useful for penis (doesn't hurt to excercise it either).

I include the best picture (best to see the difference) I found. It's in the side and front views. From the top you wouldn't see the BC and from below you would see that it's actually a double and symetrical muscle.

Oh and by the way, you've been pressing right between your anus and ballsack, well that's precisely on the BC.

 

[goinfor11x7]

So if you can visualize them, you can focus on one rather than the other. This is very helpful. Thanks much!!

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

Thanks a millions Chi
It's quite clear now.

so contracting the PC muscle squeezes the prostate. that's good to delay ejaculation. Am I correct? or is it the BC muscle we have to contract to delay ejaculation.

I remember reading that the semenal fluids build up in the prostate gland, and with the force of the testicles they're expelled through the penis and hence pumping the prostate or kegelling will interrupt this sequence.

but i also remember reading that if you kegel hard, it makes you come faster. ? ?

 

[NewGuy311]

I actually had about 6 orgasms during the 4 hours. It is very difficult to avoid, as anyone who tries this will see. HOWEVER, I did one thing that saved my workout, and that is flex my PC muscle hard enough that I DID NOT EJACULATE. If you ejaculate, I imagine you would lose desire to keep the erection and/or it will be difficult to become 100% erect for at least 20 minutes or more. The key is staying close to 100% for as close to the entire duration as possible, although the Penis Enlargement Patent suggests 40-90% erection, I would have to say 90-100%.

I made the two hours and it went realy well, i didnt cum till after the full 2 hours were up, felt amazing when i finally shot off. Needless to say my dick was very sore, im probably going to try 3-4 hours tonight. Also, my girth has went up and same with flaccid. I got an erection yesterday and today and the mid shaft girth was 6, flaccid a little over 5 length and close to 5 girth, when not sucked up, and even when sucked up im a bit over 4 length and 4 girth.

I couldnt get real hard the day after and today though, it seems as though my dick just doesnt want to get any harder than 85-90%, and my dick feels a bit more sore when everything starts expanding. I think im gonna try for 3-4hours tonight if i can get a hard enough erection, than take a few days off and just kegal alot than get erect those days later and see if i made a gain in length.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

is this along the lines of 'penile ballooning' and what that chinese doctor.. (Dr. lim or smthgn?) claims to work?

I dont really understand as his site is full of none sense. he says its possible to gain 1-3 inches by his method, says that ejaculation must be held back at least 3-5 times and that once you're close to ejaculation you should massage the root of the penis.

I know alotta people here think he's an ass clown, but let's at least discuss this.

 

[franz]

is this along the lines of 'penile ballooning' and what that chinese doctor.. (Dr. lim or smthgn?) claims to work?

I dont really understand as his site is full of none sense. he says its possible to gain 1-3 inches by his method, says that ejaculation must be held back at least 3-5 times and that once you're close to ejaculation you should massage the root of the penis.

I know alotta people here think he's an ass clown, but let's at least discuss this.

Yes. This thread is exactly as valid as this "chinese doctor" (who is a civil engineer) and his pills. rofl

 

[goldmember]

Yes. This thread is exactly as valid as this "chinese doctor" (who is a civil engineer) and his pills. rofl

I respect your opinion, but there is no disputing the results of the Penis Enlargement PATENT. Men gained over two inches in a year by following the same routine I posted in post#1, three times a week, at 40-90% erection level. Please be a little more open-minded.

 

[prince Albert]

GM,did you just maintain the erection or did you do any pe during the 4 hours,jelq or erect bends?

 

[goldmember]

GM,did you just maintain the erection or did you do any pe during the 4 hours,jelq or erect bends?

Pretty much sat there and stroked it a little. Not violently, just very slowly, like a jelqing pace or slower, to stay hard. I tried kegelling blood into my glans a bit, and reverse kegelling, but that's the extent of it.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

GM,did you just maintain the erection or did you do any pe during the 4 hours,jelq or erect bends?

That's exactly the question I had.


And Gold, so you don't think the potentiator and the Potaba that they were taking to make the tissue more flexible had anything to do with the gains?

I mean here's what I have difficulty with.

we're saying that when we jelq in blood to the penis, we're forcing blood into the cavernosa chambers, possibly making them grow past the maximum errection level. Same thing goes with clamping. But just maintaining a 100% errection, doesn't push the status quo. you're just where you were with no extra push past plastic deformation.

The more I dig into Penis Enlargement the more confused I get sometimes. Are we growing the Tunica, or the CC and CS? either way how does having a prolonged errection help either of these tissues to grow past their already established limits?

 

[goinfor11x7]

I've hit my longest length and thickest girth (temporary, of course) edging (or ballooning) for two to three hours non-stop. Each time my erection starts to wane, I push it to a new level. Each time I start to ejaculate, I ease off. The trick here is not to ejaculate, but to keep the blood pulsing into your shaft. I keep visualizing my dick longer and thicker, longer and thicker. Sometimes I lose my focus and I lose my erection.

So I rest for a few minutes and begin the session again. Of course I'm not starting from ground zero. I'm simply picking up where I left off. My new
erections and girth size are usually equal to or greater than my preceding ones.

I"m not just maintaining my hardest erection for as long as I can. I'm dry jelqing, stretching, kegeling my ass off non-stop so that each 100% erection is a tiny bit longer than the one before.


Normally I do this after no sex or masturbation for a week or two. I may take a quarter viagra before I start, but not always. It depends on how "flushed" my dick is that day.

Hope this is helpful.

 

[Chi]

Thanks a millions Chi
It's quite clear now.

so contracting the PC muscle squeezes the prostate. that's good to delay ejaculation. Am I correct? or is it the BC muscle we have to contract to delay ejaculation.

Contracting the PC will squeeze the prostate gland. Contracting the BC at the right time can stop ejaculation, but to delay it you need to relax both during sex.

I remember reading that the semenal fluids build up in the prostate gland, and with the force of the testicles they're expelled through the penis and hence pumping the prostate or kegelling will interrupt this sequence.

Yes and No. They are expelled with BC contractions. I think that the best way to not ejaculate would be to contract the PC only before reaching the point of no return and keeping the BC completely relaxed all along. Becouse this is almost imposible (to me at least, and I can isolate them quite well), I contract both real hard and long when reaching the point of no return.

but i also remember reading that if you kegel hard, it makes you come faster. ? ?

If you have poor control over your BC this will be true, because the BC goes into involuntary contractions when you orgasm unless you can conciously relax it or contract it real hard. Both will prevent the contractions. Most importantly as you increase excitement level, many muscles in the area start to slowly increase tension and this somehow speeds up the orgasm. I don't know, but maybe that involves increased pressure on the prostate.


We can discuss the PC vs BC thing in another thread, but I don't think we can correct such a deeply rooted conceptual misconception in the Penis Enlargement comunity. And anyway, this is not what this thread is about, so my apologies to Goldmember and everyone else who is interested in the effect of prolonged erections (like me too).

 

[goldmember]

Your post certainly has merit, but just give it a try and you will see that tissue is certainly being tested to the point of plastic deformation, exercised or not. Pubescent boys don't do erect bends while sleeping yet still manage to gain 1-2" sometimes in the matter of one year. Growth factors likely have a role, as does the basic physics behind the internal stretch due to circulation. As far as Potaba potentiating gains, I really can't say. Potaba is only marginally effective for treating peyronnies, so maybe it isn't all it's cracked up to be. The PGE1 certainly has merit, however. The prostaglandins upregulate androgen receptors in the penis, which may accelerate growth.

That's exactly the question I had.


And Gold, so you don't think the potentiator and the Potaba that they were taking to make the tissue more flexible had anything to do with the gains?

I mean here's what I have difficulty with.

we're saying that when we jelq in blood to the penis, we're forcing blood into the cavernosa chambers, possibly making them grow past the maximum errection level. Same thing goes with clamping. But just maintaining a 100% errection, doesn't push the status quo. you're just where you were with no extra push past plastic deformation.

The more I dig into Penis Enlargement the more confused I get sometimes. Are we growing the Tunica, or the CC and CS? either way how does having a prolonged errection help either of these tissues to grow past their already established limits?

 

[franz]

I respect your opinion, but there is no disputing the results of the Penis Enlargement PATENT. Men gained over two inches in a year by following the same routine I posted in post#1, three times a week, at 40-90% erection level. Please be a little more open-minded.

Working in science and with patents I know that about a third of the filed patenst in the US are plain bogus, another third does not disclose the full information to reproduce the results.
Therefor I can very well dispute the validity of the patent application.

In addition the procedure in the patent is a little bit more elaborate to put it nicely isn´t it?

 

[goldmember]

In addition the procedure in the patent is a little bit more elaborate to put it nicely isn´t it?

You would be right on that one. As I mentioned before, 'large1' has gained 1/8" in length and 3/8" girth in only three months using this method, although like you said, his method is a bit more elaborate involving PGE1 injections. I think we should pay close attention to his gains (or lack thereof) in the next several months.