Stretching the SEPTUM...MOST important!!

DLD, and all the Penis Enlargement members here: I have done some very important thinking and testing and unless we stretch the septum we will never get length of penis gain. I discussed this on another thread/post some time ago but nothing comes from it but here are my thoughts. When doing heavy stetching manual or otherwise, we can feel this strong cord in the very inner part of the shaft. It attaches to the glans and attaches to the public bone. It may go back into the behind the balls part of our shaft and connect back farther, I can't really tell, but it is tough and like a solid rope when hanging. It has to give, to give length. You can get girth with the meat part of your schlong, but you can't get length if you don't get that septum to give and stretch. What it takes on each of us, who knows, but it has to reach a point of fatigue and give or nothing is going anywhere. The tunica surrounds the septum and regardless of what else we do, it has to give. Any ideas or success in this area would be appreicated. I think this is why hanging is so very necessary and productive. Obviously there are some great first gains and the septum gives but after a while, it is definitley the determining factor. Little is said about it and yet it keeps giving me fits. I work it, twisting and pulling and when under a load in hanging, put my finger under and pull up, doing the same to the sides and all along it. So, give us some feed back on what you are doing to get the septum to give. GS

Hey GS how's it going dude ??? I hope you're fine mate.

This SEPTUM thing has also puzzled me right from the start ( my start on NPenis Enlargement ). I remember on one of my first threads refering to it as " ...some kind of space age cable used to tow comets out of Earth's path... ". I firmly believe that this cord ( septum ) is the end all be all as far as lenght gains are concerned. You are absolutly right mate, either the septum stretches or no lenght for any of us. I too push on it quite strongly when stretching and especialy when doing A and V-stretches. It sure feels like it's made of damn steel and it won't stretch no matter how hard i hit it.

Lenght is what i'm after here so i better come up with a way of stretching the damn thing or else...lenght stays put.

I'll try and research the anatomy on the septum and the risks we might have to consider while streching it. If i find it...I'll post it here mate.

Keep up the good work GS

Peace

Mike

Hey Mike, yes, it seems as if it is an iron cable that won't give. Let us know if you get the answer. We talk about the tunica, but his septum is the issue. If some of you don't know what that is, it can only be found when you are completely flaccid. NO BLOOD at all. Once you get some blood into the penis the tunica swells and then the septum it seems gets lost in the shuffle. But, when flaccid and stretching, you find that cord that is so very tough. I have seen my septum increase in size since doing Penis Enlargement. At first it seemed a narrow cord but now, I could pull a tank with it. All this said, you have to stetch the ligs and get them supple. I am past that issue. The ligs have given me some good base increase but to get this length, have to stretch the septum. Any answers out there????? GS

Hey GermanStallion, Thank you for our conversation the other day, you really came through for me It lead me to researching childhood and puberty on a new level. You are a true friend.

On the Septum:
The septum divides the scrotum into two cavities for the testicles, and extends between the raphe and the under tunica of the penis, traveling upward to the glans. It is very thick, similar to the tunica with less than 5% elasticity.

Can it be stretched? Yes. I guess the question of the day is how. As ironic as it might be, the thread I recently started on stretching after orgasm may be a huge influence on these less elastic tissues (tunica and septum) After orgasm the penis is in it's most relaxed state and I hypothesize it may be it's most vulnerable and receptive to stretching.

With the mention of complete fatigue another irony has happened today being the thread started on DLD Blasters. Blaster work on the premiss of pre-exaustion of the pelvic floor muscle but the key here is pre-exaustion. Being an extremely fatigues state, after the kegel potion of Blasters, the penis is very imperturbable. This relaxation is key to DLD Blasters. Taking this a step further and suggesting a new exercise would be combining post-ejaculation with DLD Blasters. Even with those that do Blasters with hanging, the same theory applies.

I think this question on the septum brings new opportunity to our stretching efforts. I am going to include this in my routine and see how effective it may be, I suggest the same for everyone else who desires more length.

Thanks GS for the thread. I hope my input helps.

Hey GS ma man...

Actualy the tunica albuginea and the septum are one and the same. The septum, which sometimes dudes start to go off in flames saying that it's in the nose ( and they are right up to a point cause the nose ALSO has a septum ). In fact a septum is any soft tissue structure forming a dividing wall or enclosure in many parts of the Human anatomy; Hence, the penile septum is the part of the tunica albuginea which encloses the corpora cavernosum ( the 2 cilinders that fill up with blood when you get an erection ) and divides them in 2 at the middle from the top of the shaft to the bottom.

This septum is composed of colagen fibers organized in many possible ways and sometimes this "organization" is skewd giving some ( many ) men the peyronie's desiese ( bent shaft ).

The reason i find for it to be so damn hard to stretch is, since it's composed of collagen, the very same "stuff" that make cartilage and tendons, is it's own material. Collagen is VERY VERY HARD STUFF.

I'll try and learn a bit more so we can exploit this matter further. ( This is all i can remember from the top of my head so... be patient guys, i'll get there ).

Peace

Mike

Well this is the best thing i have come across for the septum with a hanger http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21406

The power assist is good too.

But that is intresting about combining post-ejaculation.

Maybe this explains why I don't seem to be making further permanent length gains in spite of an intensive stretching routine.

All those months of P.E. probably have created a powerfully strong septum in my case. It sure as hell feels like a steel cable running through my dick.

I personally think, the only barrier we face in Penis Enlargement is one that we make up for ourselves. I've come to realize however I've treated Penis Enlargement, my gains reflected my mindset. If I've thought girth is tough to get while length is easyyy, i made almost 2 inches of length gains and little girth gains. If however, (as i have been the past 2 years) thought that length gains are hard to get and possibly limited due to some unknown factor while girth is easy to get, I gained nothing in length, and alot in girth.

my point is, its the power of your mind to create your reality. Sometimes I think we shouldnt make Penis Enlargement overly complicated. simply BELIEVING that doing something will give you length will definately give you length. I've definately seen this in both bodybuilding AND Penis Enlargement.

But, by all means, find a solution to this septum problem.

goinfor11x7 said:

Maybe this explains why I don't seem to be making further permanent length gains in spite of an intensive stretching routine.

All those months of P.E. probably have created a powerfully strong septum in my case. It sure as hell feels like a steel cable running through my dick.

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11x7...this is exactly the issue. I remember a few years ago that steel cable seemed to be "small." Now it feels like a half inch cable. I have been working it and making it flexable when hanging. I do think we all need to get ideas together to make that "septum" reach a fatigue state to be able to stretch it. If we get it to move, we will get length. I don't know if it is long time hanging, heavey weight hanging, or what that will make it budge. I doubt if it is heavy weight, but probably more long term and relaxing it.

DLD says that fatigue comes after ejaculation. I sure don't want to hang for hours after sex with the wife. Maybe after a masterbation session it would be weaker. Hopefully some others will join in on this subject and give us all help. GS

I would like to think that it is all a matter of attitude and mindset, V.K. And I do think that this is a big factor in P.E. But there are limits imposed upon us by our biological and genetic make-up. I grew up tall and thin with a big dick. This I received from my antecedents. What I do with this gift is up to me.

I have to say that we live in a physical universe and that we have to accept some physical realities, like the strength and lack of elasticity of the septum.

I do think, and I agree with you, that negative thinking will not help us grow in any way, either in length or girth of dick or any physical attribute.

I also know that I made my most remarkable gains in P.E. when I was focusing on something completely different--that is getting my solid woodies back. When I saw my dick getting longer, and thicker, I was flabbergasted!! I never expected this although I was jelqing and stretching like crazy at the time.

So now I'm rethinking this whole idea of goals in length and girth. Maybe this is not the way to approach P.E.

G.S. and DLD,



Thanks for the thread and the input. It's combining our thinking and individual experience on the subject that will move us in the right direction. I'll do my best to contribute to this.

I know one beautiful gift I've received from P.E., and that is the knowledge that as you grow older, you don't have to watch your dick shrink along with your libido. A lot of older men have accepted this bullshit. And this mindset leads to just that: a shrinking dick and no urge to have sex.

Long live P.E.!!! Whoohoooo!!!

goinfor11x7 said:

I know one beautiful gift I've received from P.E., and that is the knowledge that as you grow older, you don't have to watch your dick shrink along with your libido. A lot of older men have accepted this bullshit. And this mindset leads to just that: a shrinking dick and no urge to have sex.

Long live P.E.!!! Whoohoooo!!!

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You are absolutely right, 11x7. Penis Enlargement has put life back into many an older mans schlong. I am glad to say that sex gets better as you get older! My libido is as great as it ever was and my schlong is in as good a shape as it ever was.
Now, if I can just stretch that septum and get some more length. :dance: GS

For for it, pal!! I'll do the same!!!

German Stallion said:

DLD says that fatigue comes after ejaculation. I sure don't want to hang for hours after sex with the wife. Maybe after a masterbation session it would be weaker. Hopefully some others will join in on this subject and give us all help. GS

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Since I don't have sex anymore:s the only way I feel the fatigue is after masturbation.

doublelongdaddy said:

Since I don't have sex anymore:s the only way I feel the fatigue is after masturbation.

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A blessing in disguise??

Hey Guys,

I realise I'm pretty new to the whole Penis Enlargement thing but I'm REALLY glad I stumbled across this thread. I have another thread somewhere around here where I asked a few anatomy questions: one of them was related to the septum (as I have just learned about from this thread!) For me its been plain to see that the tough septum is probably the single biggest limiting factor to making massive length gains.

I've made gains from the Beginner's Routine and will continue with it, but I'll be experimenting and I'll definitely keep an eye out on this thread for any suggestions for better targetting the septum.

Thanks to all for bringing the Septum issue to light!

Straight from the horse's mouth so to speak...this is taken from DLD's blog with link provided.

http://www.mattersofsize.com/2006/03/penis-enalagement-long-and-short-of-it.html

"The V-stretch

This is one of my favorite tunica stretches. It especially targets the septum, which is very hard to stretch. Without stretching the septum it will be very hard to make any tunica gains.

To do this stretch, you pull straight up with one hand, just like a normal tunica stretch. With the other, press down in the middle of your penis to make a V shape with your penis. You should feel a much better stretch than with a normal straight up stretch. Move your fulcrum hand to several different points on your penis to get the best stretch."

Since we're talking about the V-stretch now there was a thread called the water bottle stretch. I called it the weighted V-stretch cause that's what it is. I did it for about a month and the limiting factor is the padded handle that goes across your cock.

I was in the store the other day with my wife in the purse section and it hit me like a ton o bricks. Instead of a gallon jug or a bucket (which is what I was using witha sock wrapped around the handle) I saw a handbag. The two handles, or carrying straps, were absolutely perfect because they won't dig into your cock where the weight forces the V. Instead, they disburse the weight more evenly, and flatter, at the point where you want the weight pinpointed thereby allowing you to either hang the weight for longer periods of time OR hang much heavier weight.

If the secret to stretching the septum is the V-stretch then the weighted V-stretch will cause results to happen much quicker due to the efficiency and intensity.

Thanks much, OCD. It's becoming clearer to me what I have to do to create a weighted fulcrum with this upward stretch. This is all new to me.

Well, I am back and still think that the septum is the one single contributing factor in gaining length. When I started Penis Enlargement, I remember that my septum was much thinner and now it is stronger and thicker. What can we do guys, to get this septum to "give." Sure need your input if you have some ideas. GS