Permanent gains?

Hi all, just to give some figures about penis pumping and permanent gains. It is true that the size one has in the tube is not the same than when you come out, and in several hours you "lose" most of the expansion, but there are small, cumulative gains that cement by themselves over time. I started at 132 mm (5.25) in girth, and after some time of consistent pumping i reached way more than 7 inch girth, but I only claim 7 because I found myself having to give proof of it at any moment, and it bothers me. From then on, pumping was only for keeping the gains. There were many times I stopped pumping, and started again when noticed some loss, ussually within 3 months or so. In the last break, were I was pondering to stop pumping at all, in the 3rd month I measured 6.5 and from then on it was my permanent, unpumped size. I stopped 8 months total, and there is a reason I went back to pump. A month ago, my (most) Significant One confronted me and asked if there was someone else. As she said, she noticed I was not "so aroused" as I used to be!!! She never knew about the pumping, and attributed my "shrinking" to lack of arousal!!! Back to the figures, I see a permanent gain of at least one inch.

So, THERE ARE permanent gains in pumping.

Besides of that, if you start pumping again, you re-gain your maximum size quickly. In my case, from the 7th pumping session (at the 3rd week) I started to pack the 2.5 tube in the lower third part, in 10 minutes of WET pumping. that means almost 8 in girth IN THE TUBE.

In short, there are permanent gains, amd the eventual loses due to an extended period without pumping comes back fast if you start again.
Last, but not least, SIZE DO MATTER to women, and NOBODY, no matter how much "evidence" they provide, will convince me on the contrary. Period.

I think the biggest problem with pumping is the big gains you get instantly, some men see this as a gain when it is only a step up to the gain. It takes consistently reaching the temporary state to make it permanent. It is similar to working out in the gym where after a bicep workout you will have a pumped size bigger than when you started the workout. In the same way the penis pumps up to a size bigger than normal. It takes consistency and dedication to reaching these temporary gains to get to the permanent gains.

I am happy you have posted this as proof to what I am saying and I am even happier you have made such awesome gains. Thanks for you tome and wisdom!

Hey Vet and DLD. Good post yall. Yeah pumping gets a bad rap amongst most PEers but like you guys said. With enough time and dedication permanent gains can be made. Before I started PE I was bpel 8.5 inches. After only 2 months of pumping for 2 fifteen minutes sets done every other day, I made my first quarter inch in length newbie gain which had brought me to bpel 8.75 inches back then. I’ve also seen a good amount of permanent base girth increase from pumping.

In my opinion I think for huge permanent gains to made with pumping, one has to put a lot of hours in a week just like with using an extender for length gains through traction. I like to think of pumping as a form of traction where you are staying erect or engorged for a lengthy amount of time and it’s this form of traction and controlled stress on the cells that causes cellular mitosis and proliferation which as a result will over time cause ones erection to permanently increase in size do to actual tissue growth from pumping.

Edema fluid build up does happen which can give a false sense of enlargement but one just needs to look past this and realize that the tunica and ligs are still getting a good workout underneath the fluid build up and overtime the tunica and ligs will experience growth.

Just like when I did chemical PE a while back and was shooting for 2 to 4 hour pge1 erections, I look at pumping the same way. I strongly believe that keeping a 60% or above erection for hours at a time causes enough internal pressure and traction to the spongy tissues and the tunica to induce growth. It just takes months for some guys even years to accomplish this. So with pumping for hours at a time with breaks of course. This is simulating the same concept of staying engorged for hours at a time as long as the vacuum pressure being used is with in safe parameters for that individual.

Hey Vet, those are some crazy gains bro. Congrats on that. What type of routine did you use for girth?

doublelongdaddy;604231 said:

I think the biggest problem with pumping is the big gains you get instantly, some men see this as a gain when it is only a step up to the gain. It takes consistently reaching the temporary state to make it permanent. It is similar to working out in the gym where after a bicep workout you will have a pumped size bigger than when you started the workout. In the same way the penis pumps up to a size bigger than normal. It takes consistency and dedication to reaching these temporary gains to get to the permanent gains.

I am happy you have posted this as proof to what I am saying and I am even happier you have made such awesome gains. Thanks for you tome and wisdom!

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DLD, you are most welcome. Thanks you for your commitment to this great Forum.

youngstallion;604357 said:

Hey Vet, those are some crazy gains bro. Congrats on that. What type of routine did you use for girth?

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youngstallion, I see myself as a "minimalist pumper". I just... pump. Just being sure of warm up, a few stretches, and then 20 minutes of wet pumping 3 times a week for now.
Back when I was a newbie, I used to pump too much, and noticed that my penis were "scared" of that. In time I reach the conclussion that if I did too much to it, I would end up with a thougher penis but not neccessarily a biger one.
But perhaps it's just me....

@King, indeed my concept is the same, once you pack the tube pumping is exactly the same as traction.

Vet;604380 said:

@King, indeed my concept is the same, once you pack the tube pumping is exactly the same as traction.

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So it would be a smart idea for men to hold on to their smaller pumps for length work and use their bigger pump for girth.

Vet, DLD, and Kingsnake, how long did it take for you guys to begin packing your first tube. I been pumping for a month and I don't get much expansion at all. KS, recommended I use DMSO and PABA to soften my tunica, do you guys have any other tips?

youngstallion;604541 said:

Vet, DLD, and Kingsnake, how long did it take for you guys to begin packing your first tube. I been pumping for a month and I don't get much expansion at all. KS, recommended I use DMSO and PABA to soften my tunica, do you guys have any other tips?

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Where do you get DMSO and PABA?

youngstallion;604541 said:

Vet, DLD, and Kingsnake, how long did it take for you guys to begin packing your first tube. I been pumping for a month and I don't get much expansion at all. KS, recommended I use DMSO and PABA to soften my tunica, do you guys have any other tips?

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Of course it is up to the size of your tube, the lenght of the session, and how often you pump. you should have a tube 0.25 inches more in diameter than you.

But the fact that you don't see it does not mean there are not expansion. By the way, it was a "problem" I had, to meassure progress. Try pumping with water, with the level just up to the penis head, and once you reach the maximum vacuum notice the water level in your cylinder. Stay there for, let's say five minutes and check if the water level has risen. I bet it will. that rise in level means your penis has expanded, displacing the water up.

youngstallion;604541 said:

Vet, DLD, and Kingsnake, how long did it take for you guys to begin packing your first tube. I been pumping for a month and I don't get much expansion at all. KS, recommended I use DMSO and PABA to soften my tunica, do you guys have any other tips?

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I went from the Hercules to the Goliath overnight There was no way in the world I could get my entire penis in the Hercules so the second the Goliath came out I was in Heaven!

JDCSD You can get DMSO from supplement warehouse. Com. I believe you can get PABA there also. Hey VET I got a vacutech flared cylinder and they have a chart to determine the size pump you should use. My mseg is 5.5 so it recommend a cylinder with 2 inch diameter. I think I would have to expand to 6.25 to 6.5 to pack it.

youngstallion;604662 said:

JDCSD You can get DMSO from supplement warehouse. Com. I believe you can get PABA there also. Hey VET I got a vacutech flared cylinder and they have a chart to determine the size pump you should use. My mseg is 5.5 so it recommend a cylinder with 2 inch diameter. I think I would have to expand to 6.25 to 6.5 to pack it.

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Great thanks. I really wanna get one of these pumps, they sound good

youngstallion, those are the numbers. 2 inches tube has a circumference of 6.38 inches.

Vet, if your girth gains are solid and not the edema/fluid swelling gains...then you are likely the greatest girth gainer in PE history. I can not think of anyone in the history of internet PE forums other than the infamous ULI who has made girth gain claims like you.

From memory, ULI claimed to have massive starting girth (close to 7" before ever doing any PE) and with just some minimalist jelqing and squeezing of his penis claimed to have reached a circumference of 9 1/8 inches in a relatively short period of time as well.

With ULI's legacy and the exercise named after his username from TP's many many years ago, there have been countless men squeezing their penises hoping for some kind of gains...I'd guess over 90% of hopefuls will never gain more the 1/4 inch.

Same applies for pumping. One in a million will make any measurable gain after all the effort and time spent in a pump.

So with out any bullshit, whats the secret....spit it out man. 2 inches + of girth gains by some casual pumping is...I don't even have words

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/.../13527-pumping-results.html?highlight=pumping check this out , itll blow your mind

jacob5414;605575 said:

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/.../13527-pumping-results.html?highlight=pumping check this out , itll blow your mind

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Great old thread and extremely inspiring!

sasquatch;605556 said:

Vet, if your girth gains are solid and not the edema/fluid swelling gains...then you are likely the greatest girth gainer in PE history. I can not think of anyone in the history of internet PE forums other than the infamous ULI who has made girth gain claims like you.

From memory, ULI claimed to have massive starting girth (close to 7" before ever doing any PE) and with just some minimalist jelqing and squeezing of his penis claimed to have reached a circumference of 9 1/8 inches in a relatively short period of time as well.

With ULI's legacy and the exercise named after his username from TP's many many years ago, there have been countless men squeezing their penises hoping for some kind of gains...I'd guess over 90% of hopefuls will never gain more the 1/4 inch.

Same applies for pumping. One in a million will make any measurable gain after all the effort and time spent in a pump.

So with out any bullshit, whats the secret....spit it out man. 2 inches + of girth gains by some casual pumping is...I don't even have words

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Brother, I do not have words either ! For a person like me who have been feeling inadequate (being small I mean) all my life, your comments are a great ego-boost !
I posted a pic here, where I thought there is not any doubt about it. First, I'm uncut, and in the foreskin I wrote "DLD" for authenticity, there is not fluid retention because the foreskin "copies" exactly the glans, if I retract the foreskin, the girth goes far beyond 7. I was thinking in actually pinch the skin to show it, but I had one hand busy with the cell phone and the another holding the tape, there was not a 3rd one (sadly) available at that moment. By the way, I was semi-soft, and I measured below the glans, that is not the widest point. It was taken some 14 hours after the pumping, there is not any swelling or fluid retention.
Since I signed up in this forum, I am happily surprised to know to what extent my girth is unusual. First DLD posted I'm off the charts, then I found a video of Ramon the ���� actor being measured (9x6.5) but it looked way thicker than that (and than me), perhaps because the girl had very small hands, and now you making this comments. I wish I had this knowledge in my twenties, or at least in my mid forties when I started PE.
You would be surprised if you knew how simple is my pumping gear, there is not any secret. My penis likes to expand girth-wise and that's all. If you want some advise, do wet pumping, go SOFT into the tube, make a LONG warm up in the bathtub. I was near to post my last measurement in volume, that is: going soft, I start with maximum vacuum, and take note of the water level in the cylinder. 15 minutes later, keeping the degree of vacuum just below pain, the water level rises 4.5 cubic inches, that is the volume the penis has expanded, of course. That means some 25% of expansion in volume in the thube. I NEVER DO ANYTHING ELSE FOR PE, because it seems I lose gains. I'm a grower, my penis looks and feels REALLY empty when flaccid.
Last, as I posted before, I hold a very definite state of mind, mood, when pumping. No ����, no arousal, but I FEEL my penis expanding. It may seem BS, but that's the way it is.
I hope with this last statement I'm not opening another can of worms... ))

Vet;606229 said:

I hold a very definite state of mind, mood, when pumping. No ����, no arousal, but I FEEL my penis expanding. It may seem BS, but that's the way it is.
I hope with this last statement I'm not opening another can of worms... ))

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I have never been able to accomplish this, without sexy pictures or video I am a seven inch floppy ass cock