Saiyan22 is dead. Only the SNAKE MAN remains

[REDZULU2003]

Hey Red. During the orgy parties from what I see first hand, Reeko usually is only able to get half of his dick in most chicks and they are usually in pain in the beginning but after a while they enjoy it. When it comes to blow jobs every women I've seen blow him can't get past the glans at all.

With Dawntay he to is in the 9 inche realm but he is smaller then me looking to be nbpel 9 x 5.5 x 6. I'm a little longer and thicker then Dawntay.

Hey keepingitbig. Just come on down to ATL bro. I'll introduce you to my boys Mike and Brian and we can all go out and hunt down some pussy.

Sounds like they need more practice and he must learn to utilize that weapon I found lube helped allot and more foreplay.

 

[DLD]

 

[thebrightestday]

Hey Kingsnake, what about "Having blast... " stories thread, where it continues..?

 

[justaguest]

Saiyan, you lost all credibility with this thread. I'm sure most people who used to like your posts on Thunder's Place lost all respect for you.

But come on man, admit your mistake. Don't make this thing personal. No one is trying to shut you down because of your gains. No one is jealous of your dick or your gains. For fuck's sake, Thunder's Place is running on donations and success stories are welcome. There is not a single ad on that site. You broke the rules, you pay the price.
Also, selling your hanger for $190 is nothing short of blatant fucking greed. And don't bullshit with your "shipping and handling" excuse because those parts alone are no more than $30. No company will charge you $160 to ship those anywhere in the world.

So, all in all, man the fuck up and admit your mistake. It's not personal, it's just that Thunder's Place has strict rules (all legit and reasonable) and consistent moderating team. All you had to do was ask for free commercial account. You wouldn't be able to rip people off, though, that's probably why it was such a huge deal to you.

Also, your activity on Thunder's Place and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] speaks volumes about which site you prefer, but now that you got the boot on Thunder's Place, you're running back to (lower quality) [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] crying like a little bitch.

As for you, DLD, just look at this shitfest of a forum you're running. Your signature alone is covering my whole 1680x1050 screen with stupid fucking overpriced [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]. Very nice work, not annoying at all.

Not to mention your pictures are photoshopped and anyone who isn't half blind can see it within seconds of laying eyes on them. You also changed your claimed size several times, as if you can gain or lose 2'' in a matter of few weeks. You're nothing but a scam artist and bullshitter. I'm not doubting you increased your size and invented some exercises (of which I use none, I rely on good old manual stretching which has given me more than 1'' of length and still works), but you didn't double your size. You're full of shit but you're afraid to admit it because you'll lose your followers.

Now let's see how long it will take you to delete this post and ban my ass on this forum where everyone can supposedly speak their minds.

 

[higherone]

Saiyan, you lost all credibility with this thread. I'm sure most people who used to like your posts on Thunder's Place lost all respect for you.

But come on man, admit your mistake. Don't make this thing personal. No one is trying to shut you down because of your gains. No one is jealous of your dick or your gains. For fuck's sake, Thunder's Place is running on donations and success stories are welcome. There is not a single ad on that site. You broke the rules, you pay the price.
Also, selling your hanger for $190 is nothing short of blatant fucking greed. And don't bullshit with your "shipping and handling" excuse because those parts alone are no more than $30. No company will charge you $160 to ship those anywhere in the world.

So, all in all, man the fuck up and admit your mistake. It's not personal, it's just that Thunder's Place has strict rules (all legit and reasonable) and consistent moderating team. All you had to do was ask for free commercial account. You wouldn't be able to rip people off, though, that's probably why it was such a huge deal to you.

Also, your activity on Thunder's Place and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] speaks volumes about which site you prefer, but now that you got the boot on Thunder's Place, you're running back to (lower quality) [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] crying like a little bitch.

As for you, DLD, just look at this shitfest of a forum you're running. Your signature alone is covering my whole 1680x1050 screen with stupid fucking overpriced [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]. Very nice work, not annoying at all.

Not to mention your pictures are photoshopped and anyone who isn't half blind can see it within seconds of laying eyes on them. You also changed your claimed size several times, as if you can gain or lose 2'' in a matter of few weeks. You're nothing but a scam artist and bullshitter. I'm not doubting you increased your size and invented some exercises (of which I use none, I rely on good old manual stretching which has given me more than 1'' of length and still works), but you didn't double your size. You're full of shit but you're afraid to admit it because you'll lose your followers.

Now let's see how long it will take you to delete this post and ban my ass on this forum where everyone can supposedly speak their minds.

What was the purpose of this post? This sounds like a private message to Kingsnake from someone with an axe to grind. I find it funny that [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is inferior in your eyes yet you're posting on here. Your negativity speaks volumes for your credibility.

 

[justaguest]

Purpose of that post is speaking my mind. I used to think saiyan was a good guy, apparently he's not. Nothing personal against him.

Yes, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is inferior, that's why I have 7 posts in 6 years. I registered just to see some attachments long time ago.

 

[DLD]

Saiyan, you lost all credibility with this thread. I'm sure most people who used to like your posts on Thunder's Place lost all respect for you.

But come on man, admit your mistake. Don't make this thing personal. No one is trying to shut you down because of your gains. No one is jealous of your dick or your gains. For fuck's sake, Thunder's Place is running on donations and success stories are welcome. There is not a single ad on that site. You broke the rules, you pay the price.
Also, selling your hanger for $190 is nothing short of blatant fucking greed. And don't bullshit with your "shipping and handling" excuse because those parts alone are no more than $30. No company will charge you $160 to ship those anywhere in the world.

So, all in all, man the fuck up and admit your mistake. It's not personal, it's just that Thunder's Place has strict rules (all legit and reasonable) and consistent moderating team. All you had to do was ask for free commercial account. You wouldn't be able to rip people off, though, that's probably why it was such a huge deal to you.

Also, your activity on Thunder's Place and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] speaks volumes about which site you prefer, but now that you got the boot on Thunder's Place, you're running back to (lower quality) [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] crying like a little bitch.

As for you, DLD, just look at this shitfest of a forum you're running. Your signature alone is covering my whole 1680x1050 screen with stupid fucking overpriced [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]. Very nice work, not annoying at all.

Not to mention your pictures are photoshopped and anyone who isn't half blind can see it within seconds of laying eyes on them. You also changed your claimed size several times, as if you can gain or lose 2'' in a matter of few weeks. You're nothing but a scam artist and bullshitter. I'm not doubting you increased your size and invented some exercises (of which I use none, I rely on good old manual stretching which has given me more than 1'' of length and still works), but you didn't double your size. You're full of shit but you're afraid to admit it because you'll lose your followers.

Now let's see how long it will take you to delete this post and ban my ass on this forum where everyone can supposedly speak their minds.

You egotistical cock sucker for BlundersPlace, you have your head so buried in his ass that you can't see how he is robbing each and every member through his hidden affiliations and bogus donations threads. WHat fools you are for believing his utter bullshit. I advertise products that work an I am proud to be a part of. I don't hide my affiliations and pretend like I am not getting a kick-back like BlundersPlace does. I bust my fucking ass to get the discounts on the products I get for the guys who want them. I have dedicated 10 years of my life, every fucking day, helping for FREE! You are a blind idiot who needs to do his research. You can start with all the exercises I created that Thunders renamed. I made BlundersPlace what is was, when I left EVERYONE else left with me. This is why we are the biggest forum in the world. BlundersPlace biggest mistake was starting with me, no one is as powerful as me in this business. So now, BlundersPlace needs to lie with hacks that pad his forum members an usage...pathetic. You guys get like 10 new posts a day, we get like 200....do the math. And, unlike Thunder, I do not ban someone for being an ignorant, arrogant asshole, I allow them to play the fool and I will systematically destroy them. Give it you best shot bitch!

 

[justaguest]

You egotistical cock sucker for BlundersPlace, you have your head so buried in his ass that you can't see how he is robbing each and every member through his hidden affiliations and bogus donations threads. WHat fools you are for believing his utter bullshit. I advertise products that work an I am proud to be a part of. I don't hide my affiliations and pretend like I am not getting a kick-back like BlundersPlace does. I bust my fucking ass to get the discounts on the products I get for the guys who want them. I have dedicated 10 years of my life, every fucking day, helping for FREE! You are a blind idiot who needs to do his research. You can start with all the exercises I created that Thunders renamed. I made BlundersPlace what is was, when I left EVERYONE else left with me. This is why we are the biggest forum in the world. BlundersPlace biggest mistake was starting with me, no one is as powerful as me in this business. So now, BlundersPlace needs to lie with hacks that pad his forum members an usage...pathetic. You guys get like 10 new posts a day, we get like 200....do the math. And, unlike Thunder, I do not ban someone for being an ignorant, arrogant asshole, I allow them to play the fool and I will systematically destroy them. Give it you best shot bitch!

Oh wow, where do I start?

How exactly is he robbing us when no one is obliged to pay anything on a forum without a single ad? Please explain that logic to me. Everything is at your disposal absolutely free of charge and if you decide to donate, it's your own free will. I've been there for several years and never paid a single penny. However, I'll probably donate $5-10 simply because it's a great forum with lots of valuable information.

You advertise products that work and cost hundreds of dollars while there are similar products on the market that work just as well, but are multiple times cheaper. And don't bullshit that you do all that advertising for free, you must get a cut out of it. Fair thing to do would be teaching newbies to do manual exercises and gain as much as possible without spending money instead of shoving expensive products in their face as if they're absolutely necessary to gain.

Also, stop saying you do stuff for free when you're selling a bunch of stuff on your site, including your own fucking [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words]. All the demonstrational videos on Thunder's Place are free, they're not stolen and credit is given where credit is due.

You continue to contradict yourself when you say you do this for free, yet you're "the most powerful in this business". Pathetic.

Who cares if there are 10 or 200 posts a day if there's a database with 10 years of members' experience that you can easily (re)search? Most of the stuff I learned was doing my own research, not posting a thread and waiting for a reply.

How exactly are you going to destroy a member who doesn't give two flying shits about your website and will leave whenever he pleases?

Also, it's interesting how you didn't comment the part of my post where I call out your lies about your size. You can't deny common sense, your photos were photoshopped and you're a scam artist trying to make money off of success story that's actually just a blatant lie.

I'll repeat, I'm not saying you didn't gain anything, just that you're blatantly over exaggerating your gains. Now what does that say about your site? When it's led by a man who is lying about the very thing this site is about?

 

[REDZULU2003]

Fair thing to do would be teaching newbies to do manual exercises and gain as much as possible without spending money instead of shoving expensive products in their face as if they're absolutely necessary to gain.

I can see how a new person to the forums may get this impression with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], Pills and the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size-Genetics[/words] advertised. However many guys on these forums do just manual work and its not discouraged ever and in fact DLD has a thread as sticky in the newbie section with over 100,000 views on primarily manual methods. HERE

 

[REDZULU2003]

Also, stop saying you do stuff for free when you're selling a bunch of stuff on your site, including your own fucking [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words].

He does do stuff for free such as respond to questions from anyone posted in these forums 24/7. DLD doesn't ask for payment and doesn't expect anyone to go out and purchase the products. I EVEN say in many posts that you don't need devices to gain but mattersofsize endorses ones that work really well and yes Mike gets fee's from each sale but is that a crime? its called BUSINESS and he has always been honest and upfront about it, you know what? the members here don't mind because they gain from the devices. He will always offer free things online and if he didn't then guys like me would certainly not be here!

Mike's also been doing this for many years now, so whats the harm in bringing out a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] and selling it? I'm not a fan personally of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] but its available for anyone who wants to view the exercises and various other works without internet connection.

All the demonstrational videos on Thunder's Place are free, they're not stolen and credit is given where credit is due.

We have free demonstrational videos on these forums and are not stolen either and credit is given. Members Video section has loads of videos.

 

[REDZULU2003]

You continue to contradict yourself when you say you do this for free, yet you're "the most powerful in this business". Pathetic.

Such a thing called charity work, I guess you could call his unpaid work that

Also, it's interesting how you didn't comment the part of my post where I call out your lies about your size. You can't deny common sense, your photos were photoshopped and you're a scam artist trying to make money off of success story that's actually just a blatant lie.

I'll repeat, I'm not saying you didn't gain anything, just that you're blatantly over exaggerating your gains. Now what does that say about your site? When it's led by a man who is lying about the very thing this site is about?

You either believe or you do not, simple as that. Plenty of proof imho that Mike's gains from what he was to is now and the size he is now are all real. What exact proof do you have that suggests exactly he is a lying man who is a fraud? serious comments to make but how would you prove it. His pix are HERE


For the record I have NOTHING WHATSOEVER against Thunders. In fact I learned allot from the forums back in 2001! I respect the place actually but don't understand why people like you become so enraged about issues with a member and in this case DLD that happened many years ago. Thunders looks like its doing okay and so why come here ranting about this? sure its off your chest but it aint going to do anything with our community. No words of acidic nature will destroy us.

What is your motive and your REAL username over at thunders? at least have the bollocks to take off the mask and reveal it to us.

 

[justaguest]

I can see how a new person to the forums may get this impression with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], Pills and the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size-Genetics[/words] advertised. However many guys on these forums do just manual work and its not discouraged ever and in fact DLD has a thread as sticky in the newbie section with over 100,000 views on primarily manual methods. HERE

Pills don't work for permanent enlargement, Penis EnlargementRIOD. So there's another lie endorsed by site owner.

When a clueless newbie comes here and sees all the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] in owner's signature, he sure as hell isn't encouraged to do manual work. When you get [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] covering your whole screen after every DLD's post (and he has 40000+ posts), it doesn't quite promote manual work, now does it?

He does do stuff for free such as respond to questions from anyone posted in these forums 24/7. DLD doesn't ask for payment and doesn't expect anyone to go out and purchase the products. I EVEN say in many posts that you don't need devices to gain but mattersofsize endorses ones that work really well and yes Mike gets fee's from each sale but is that a crime? its called BUSINESS and he has always been honest and upfront about it, you know what? the members here don't mind because they gain from the devices. He will always offer free things online and if he didn't then guys like me would certainly not be here!

It's not a crime, but he shouldn't say he's doing it for free. He sure as hell wouldn't waste his time on this site if he didn't get a penny from it. It's hypocrisy and that's why I'm calling it out.

You don't have to pay anything on Thunder's Place either, it clearly runs on donations and every member is treated the same, regardless of donator status.

Mike's also been doing this for many years now, so whats the harm in bringing out a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] and selling it? I'm not a fan personally of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] but its available for anyone who wants to view the exercises and various other works without internet connection.



We have free demonstrational videos on these forums and are not stolen either and credit is given. Members Video section has loads of videos.

Just yesterday I saw a newbie asking about some exercise and DLD himself told him it's explained on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words]. In other words, stuff here is not free. If you want to see the exercise, you have to pay for the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words]. He won't explain it to you or show it for free. That's the problem.

Just go and spend few minutes on Thunder's Place and come back here. This forum is an abomination from all the flashing [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] that jump into your face. Based on that fact alone I would never be a regular member here. DLD's lies are another reason.

 

[justaguest]

You either believe or you do not, simple as that. Plenty of proof imho that Mike's gains from what he was to is now and the size he is now are all real. What exact proof do you have that suggests exactly he is a lying man who is a fraud? serious comments to make but how would you prove it. His pix are HERE

There is nothing to believe, there are SEVERAL of his photos that are PROVEN to be photoshopped. Even one fake photo is enough to completely discredit him and that's where it all ends.

For the record I have NOTHING WHATSOEVER against Thunders. In fact I learned allot from the forums back in 2001! I respect the place actually but don't understand why people like you become so enraged about issues with a member and in this case DLD that happened many years ago. Thunders looks like its doing okay and so why come here ranting about this? sure its off your chest but it aint going to do anything with our community. No words of acidic nature will destroy us.

What is your motive and your REAL username over at thunders? at least have the bollocks to take off the mask and reveal it to us.

I actually came here to speak my mind about saiyan, but after seeing DLD's posts, I thought I should let off some steam about him as well. How is my username on TP relevant to this discussion, exactly? My motive is speaking my mind, that's all.

 

[DLD]

Oh wow, where do I start?

You have already finished by responding.

How exactly is he robbing us when no one is obliged to pay anything on a forum without a single ad? Please explain that logic to me. Everything is at your disposal absolutely free of charge and if you decide to donate, it's your own free will. I've been there for several years and never paid a single penny. However, I'll probably donate $5-10 simply because it's a great forum with lots of valuable information.

He has affiliations set up with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]Jes[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words], Bib Hanger, pills and endless other hidden pockets to make his cash underhanded.

You advertise products that work and cost hundreds of dollars while there are similar products on the market that work just as well, but are multiple times cheaper. And don't bullshit that you do all that advertising for free, you must get a cut out of it. Fair thing to do would be teaching newbies to do manual exercises and gain as much as possible without spending money instead of shoving expensive products in their face as if they're absolutely necessary to gain.

I make more money in a week than you make in a year and it has nothing to do with Penis Enlargement. I am very, very successful in the PM market, I do not need to push anything to make money. If men come hee and they use a product and everyone starts to use it and it works I approach the company and get a discount for my members. Where does the discount come from? My fucking commission you ass.

Also, stop saying you do stuff for free when you're selling a bunch of stuff on your site, including your own fucking [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words]. All the demonstrational videos on Thunder's Place are free, they're not stolen and credit is given where credit is due.

First, every exercise on Thunders (accept for 3) are ALL MY EXERCISES! He simply changed the name and tried to make it seem like it was his ideas. History does not lie, look into every exercise I created over the past decade, Thunders has stollen and renamed. My [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] is tthe best [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] in the world and the first [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] in the world to show how to make gains. Sorry Thunders missed that train.

You continue to contradict yourself when you say you do this for free, yet you're "the most powerful in this business". Pathetic.

[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is FREE. I am RICH. I am the most powerful one in this business. Where is the contradiction?

Who cares if there are 10 or 200 posts a day if there's a database with 10 years of members' experience that you can easily (re)search? Most of the stuff I learned was doing my own research, not posting a thread and waiting for a reply.

The reason it is an issue is Thunders claims to have 800 people online all the time but no one posts? That is just an obvious lie. From the minute I left Thunders he has desperately tried to keep up with me and he can't. What is the last innovation he came out with? What is his latest exercise? What is his routine? I literally answer every one of me emails,. posts, threads, blogs and channels everyday. I care about my members and that is why our traffic is real and not a hack showing 800 active users. What dishonesty.

How exactly are you going to destroy a member who doesn't give two flying shits about your website and will leave whenever he pleases?

I do not need to destroy you, you are making a fool of yourself already. Everyone here know exactly what you are and what your motives are. I shit out more brains than you have in your skull.

Also, it's interesting how you didn't comment the part of my post where I call out your lies about your size. You can't deny common sense, your photos were photoshopped and you're a scam artist trying to make money off of success story that's actually just a blatant lie.

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lol, How do you explain GQ Magazine coming to my house and Peter Ruben personally measuring me? Was that a lie? What about the Channel 4 or the BBC, were those lies too? This photoshop shit is so pathetic. Look at my last pictures and you find one place on those shots that are fake and I will give you my forum! You can't because I am 100% real.

You know what it is about men like you, you have so much envy and jealousy of my work, gains an accomplishments that the only way you can deal with it is by dissing. Hate all you want, I am still the boss.

I'll repeat, I'm not saying you didn't gain anything, just that you're blatantly over exaggerating your gains. Now what does that say about your site? When it's led by a man who is lying about the very thing this site is about?

SALON MAGAZINE

Three hours later, there’s nothing left to talk about. “Moment of truth,” he says now with a grin. “Let me just get ready.” He walks into the bathroom with Jen. Waiting in the adjacent kitchen, I try not to listen to their soft rustlings. “How do they do this in porno movies?” Mike calls out.

A moment passes. He calls me in. He’s not satisfied with the partial erection he’s managed to raise. He grabs a handful of Vaseline, Jen faces the wall and drops her thong, and I exit with haste. Another moment passes. And another.

“OK — hurry!”

He is sitting on the toilet, shirt off, shorts around his ankles, red-faced. His right hand holds a ruler and his left … well, his left hand seems to be choking some otherworldly tentacle. The thing’s the size of a paper towel roll, but looks perfectly healthy.

“Check the ruler,” he says in a faintly strangled tone. Leaning forward gingerly, I confirm that his bone-pressed penis is indeed 10 and a half inches. -Peter Ruben

 

[REDZULU2003]

I would agree about the Pills and have never been happy about them being on the forums but its not my forum. They are said to help guys but yes I see your side and agree that newer men can assume pills are the only way. I actually have made a thread titled they are all shit. A supplement is all these pills are and no more.

Cheers

 

[DLD]

I would agree about the Pills and have never been happy about them being on the forums but its not my forum. They are said to help guys but yes I see your side and agree that newer men can assume pills are the only way. I actually have made a thread titled they are all shit. A supplement is all these pills are and no more.

Cheers

That is all they are is supplements, just like you would take at a gym. If guys want these and they are going to buy these I am more than happy to sell these. Do they make the penis bigger? No. Do they supplement the workout? Of course. Are they necessary? Of course not. I take them because they give me a fuller flaccid hang, they make girth work very easy due to the erections they give me and I can afford to take them. I am all for RED making the thread he made explaining how to make the formula yourself, that is great for those who are motivated to do so. Just like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Power Assist[/words] and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words], direction to make your own are always available and free but most would rather have us make it.

 

[REDZULU2003]

Exactly and if you were a money mad tyrant who brainwashed everyone here you would have edited my thread or binned it, yet it exists HERE to be precise.

 

[DLD]

Exactly and if you were a money mad tyrant who brainwashed everyone here you would have edited my thread or binned it, yet it exists HERE to be precise.

Above all we desire freedom. Freedom of expression, choice, voice, position, life...it is all individual and should be expressed without fear of editing...MOS is a perfect picture of Fairness. I am not here to judge, I am here to gain an help others do so.

 

[justaguest]

He has affiliations set up with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]Jes[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words], Bib Hanger, pills and endless other hidden pockets to make his cash underhanded.

Even if he does, there's not a single ad on his site and he's not asking for any money to share the knowledge because it's all there up for grabs, unlike your [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words].

I make more money in a week than you make in a year and it has nothing to do with Penis Enlargement. I am very, very successful in the PM market, I do not need to push anything to make money. If men come hee and they use a product and everyone starts to use it and it works I approach the company and get a discount for my members. Where does the discount come from? My fucking commission you ass.

Covering a 1680x1050 screen with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] after every single post is not something I would call "not pushing products". Good job on making more money than a student, by the way.

First, every exercise on Thunders (accept for 3) are ALL MY EXERCISES! He simply changed the name and tried to make it seem like it was his ideas. History does not lie, look into every exercise I created over the past decade, Thunders has stollen and renamed. My [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] is tthe best [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] in the world and the first [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] in the world to show how to make gains. Sorry Thunders missed that train.

I have no idea what you're talking about because ThunderSS doesn't claim any of those exercises are his own.

MOS is FREE. I am RICH. I am the most powerful one in this business. Where is the contradiction?

[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is FREE, but CONTENT on it IS NOT. There is the contradiction.

The reason it is an issue is Thunders claims to have 800 people online all the time but no one posts? That is just an obvious lie. From the minute I left Thunders he has desperately tried to keep up with me and he can't. What is the last innovation he came out with? What is his latest exercise? What is his routine? I literally answer every one of me emails,. posts, threads, blogs and channels everyday. I care about my members and that is why our traffic is real and not a hack showing 800 active users. What dishonesty.

There are 200 members and 800 guests online right now. Guests can't post. Who would've thought, huh?
From what I understand, ThunderSS is not into Penis Enlargement any more. He's just keeping the forums up for people.

And who says you have to keep innovating stuff in Penis Enlargement department when simple things work just fine? Manual stretching, hanging, jelqing, pumping and clamping is all you need to achieve all the gains you want. I saw all the exercises on your [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] and I wouldn't try 90% of them on my dick.

I do not need to destroy you, you are making a fool of yourself already. Everyone here know exactly what you are and what your motives are. I shit out more brains than you have in your skull.

And what are my motives, exactly? It's not like I'm gaining anything from this pissing match.

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Look man, I'm no expert and I'm not going to inspect details of your photos, but the ones I've seen on TP are clearly fake. Even if your claims are true, WHY did you photoshop your photos in past? Do you really want me to search TP and post the pictures I'm talking about here so everyone can see? If you really doubled your size, why would you fake the photos?

lol, How do you explain GQ Magazine coming to my house and Peter Ruben personally measuring me? Was that a lie? What about the Channel 4 or the BBC, were those lies too? This photoshop shit is so pathetic. Look at my last pictures and you find one place on those shots that are fake and I will give you my forum! You can't because I am 100% real.

Because you're the first guy to go out in public with it, maybe? Also, why is your size on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] nowhere near your (then) claimed size? Unless you're some kind of hyper grower which quadruples his flaccid size when erect.

Again, do you want me to post your photoshopped photos here?

You know what it is about men like you, you have so much envy and jealousy of my work, gains an accomplishments that the only way you can deal with it is by dissing. Hate all you want, I am still the boss.

Look man, I have nothing to be jealous of. I'm satisfied with my life, my education, my body and my dick, I'm more than 50% finished with my goal penis size and I have nothing to complain about.

Reason why I'm posting this is your attacks on TP when there's clearly no reason for them, your approach to selling stuff here and your (then) fake photos (I won't go into the real/fake of photos you posted here).

 

[SirKyle]

What's the PM market DLD? Google brings up metal stock trade or something, is that what you do?

Also: You're not gonna tell us that [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] is losing you money, are you?