9cyclops9 said:
Nah, DLD will have to open the "MOS gym." Join today and you get 2 free sessions with a private instructor! It'll be bigger than Gold's. :D

That would be sweet! He could even hire some sexy ladies to help with the girth workouts!
 
Once its mainstream you will have even more women expecting YOU to be big, because "hey joe does his jelquin why cant you?" Big dick will become even more important to all kinds of women. Much more pressure on the male specie.
Great for those who gained, are gaining, can gain - pretty fuckin devastating for those who can't.
Once it hits "sex and the city like" mainstream tv EVERY single women on this planet will secretly crave and want a well endowed man and will be dissapointed EVEN more if you don't live up to the hype.
Well I knew this would be mainstream sooner or later, i must admit I hoped it wouldn't get out that fast.

my theory on this however is that all of this is first step in the right direction. its important , but its not THAT important.

Still, even with all the knowledge and technique and validation that it does work OUT THERE it still needs work&time. And this is something most people will not be willing to invest.

What WILL happen 100% though is that science will take notice. Even more so BIG COMPANYS WITH MILLIONs oF DOLLARS will do more research more studys and finally come up with some "erectile tissue cultivation and implant surgery" that will allow every man with 1000$ to enlarge his penis to 8x6.

AND EXACTLY that is the right direction my friends.
When every guy will be equal , they will all come to senses and concentrate on much more important things in life. And pretty much everything is more important than penis size. Guys will be judged by looks and inner values.
And when someone finally comes up with the 1000$ full body and face perfect plastic surgery maybe it will be JUST intellect , charakter , inner values that will play a role in life - like seriously it should be.

"the very great majority -- 99 percent -- have normal penile size. It's a psychological problem more than a physical one."

EXACTLY and soon every male who still is an active fucker will be have a BIG normal penis size and if it was a psychological problem before , this man will develope another obsession on a different terrain.

I really feel sorry for the guy who meets the women he dreamed of his entire life , that means the world to him and even more, unfortunatly her pussy will be to small to have sex with him and it will be all pain. And don't gimme that "it can be stretched comment" yes it can , under pain , and the it will go back to normal and you have new pain that you cause each and every time.


just 2 cents from a romantic fool.


I'm not just critisizing though. The other good thing (most important) and HUGE credit for that to DLD is that all those poor men with peyronies will have more hope and more chances to better their conditions.
DLD you helped many many men, but its not about the arrogant fucker who had 7.5 x 5.5 and wanted 9x7 to impress his buddys , its about those men who have peyronies or are like 2,3,4 erect inches. You helped those guys too and you most definetly deserve whatever good things happen to you in the future.
 
WOw, I have just been to "the other" Penis Enlargement forum to check out the thread about that Salon article.......
Those guys loathe DLD......obviously its about the success, not the man....
Philadelph and koooky were also checkin it out :D
I mean, this thread here about the article is only 3 pages long, given, thats probly because subject matter has scared everyone right to hell, but the thread there is about 8 pages long, and I read through it a bit and just reading their negativity, its infectious, I was starting to think "Damn that DLD, Damn him to hell" :D
Its like they dont beleive in Penis Enlargement themselves....

THough Dld, I think if you want to make some good money all you have to do is say: Im gonna make this shit mainstream unless all you guys deposit $20 into my account immediately, you be a millionaire by morning I'll tell you that....
Sorry for being so selfish.....its hard enough knowing Penis Enlargement hardly works for you WITHOUT the rest of the world knowing, all its gonna be is the guys it didnt work for and the guys with 10"s

DLD, you could always move up to where I live and be my business partner, any good at digging holes??? lol
 
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VladtheImpaler said:
WOw, I have just been to "the other" Penis Enlargement forum to check out the thread about that Salon article.......well, hehe, I always thought those guys didnt like DLD, but holy shit, they could base their life on loathing you man, wow.....
Philadelph and koooky were also checkin it out :D
I mean, this thread here about the article is only 3 pages long, given, thats probly because subject matter has scared everyone right to hell, but the thread there is about 8 pages long, and I read through it a bit and just reading their negativity, its infectious, I was starting to think "Damn that DLD, Damn him to hell" :D
Its like they dont beleive in Penis Enlargement themselves....

They should change the forum name to peisfake.com. They talk about my dick and me more than my girl does. Damn, talk about renting space in someone's head, based on that I think I have mortgage out on their entire member base.
 
tbirdy said:
Once its mainstream you will have even more women expecting YOU to be big, because "hey joe does his jelquin why cant you?" Big dick will become even more important to all kinds of women. Much more pressure on the male specie.
Great for those who gained, are gaining, can gain - pretty fuckin devastating for those who can't.
Once it hits "sex and the city like" mainstream tv EVERY single women on this planet will secretly crave and want a well endowed man and will be dissapointed EVEN more if you don't live up to the hype.
Well I knew this would be mainstream sooner or later, i must admit I hoped it wouldn't get out that fast.

my theory on this however is that all of this is first step in the right direction. its important , but its not THAT important.

Still, even with all the knowledge and technique and validation that it does work OUT THERE it still needs work&time. And this is something most people will not be willing to invest.

What WILL happen 100% though is that science will take notice. Even more so BIG COMPANYS WITH MILLIONs oF DOLLARS will do more research more studys and finally come up with some "erectile tissue cultivation and implant surgery" that will allow every man with 1000$ to enlarge his penis to 8x6.

AND EXACTLY that is the right direction my friends.
When every guy will be equal , they will all come to senses and concentrate on much more important things in life. And pretty much everything is more important than penis size. Guys will be judged by looks and inner values.
And when someone finally comes up with the 1000$ full body and face perfect plastic surgery maybe it will be JUST intellect , charakter , inner values that will play a role in life - like seriously it should be.

"the very great majority -- 99 percent -- have normal penile size. It's a psychological problem more than a physical one."

EXACTLY and soon every male who still is an active fucker will be have a BIG normal penis size and if it was a psychological problem before , this man will develope another obsession on a different terrain.

I really feel sorry for the guy who meets the women he dreamed of his entire life , that means the world to him and even more, unfortunatly her pussy will be to small to have sex with him and it will be all pain. And don't gimme that "it can be stretched comment" yes it can , under pain , and the it will go back to normal and you have new pain that you cause each and every time.


just 2 cents from a romantic fool.


I'm not just critisizing though. The other good thing (most important) and HUGE credit for that to DLD is that all those poor men with peyronies will have more hope and more chances to better their conditions.
DLD you helped many many men, but its not about the arrogant fucker who had 7.5 x 5.5 and wanted 9x7 to impress his buddys , its about those men who have peyronies or are like 2,3,4 erect inches. You helped those guys too and you most definetly deserve whatever good things happen to you in the future.

Alot of good points

THough Dld, I think if you want to make some good money all you have to do is say: Im gonna make this shit mainstream unless all you guys deposit $20 into my account immediately, you be a millionaire by morning I'll tell you that....

I agree, I aint no problems with anyone makeing some cash, but sellouts is just something I aint down with...and this has kinda sold out nearly on all fronts. Hey, I will live with it lol but I hope it fails mainstream and I myself wont encourage Penis Enlargement outside the forums and pray to god that Urologists keep saying its bullshit. Selfish? perhaps, but I dont want other men outside knowing this shit, its like a animal survival instinct I have if you will....I help guys on this and Zululand forums, but anywhere else than FUCK OFF cos Penis Enlargement is crap lol Outside in the mainstream its ONE motive, and thats money makeing. Penis Enlargement has been carved from not just one man, but thousands upon thousands whom have built theorys, tested exercises etc etc.
Only thing that can really be sold is devices and paysites, but it gets to a point like I say when you see SELL OUT rofl

You gotta remember though, once Natural Penis Enlargement goes mainstream, there will be absolutely no money in it, the exercises will be all over the internet for free, or you could even ask you buddy who you know Penis Enlargement's for some exercises, because it will be more acceptable then to do so than now......

They will be enough money to be made for those whom are clever enough to know how to find the work, such as bib for example.
He must have made a nice profit, why else would he keep doing it? this isnt a attack on him, just a point.
DLD has the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words], the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words] and paysite amongst other stuff so yeah money is there to be made.
I might jump on the wagon oneday and sell Zulu Cock rings lol j/k
Its tempting, but it doesnt feel right.
 
I don't worry about Penis Enlargement going mainstream, this stuff has been available for a long time and most men turn their noses up at it. I think, even if Penis Enlargement made into mainstream news, most men would not have what it takes to remain consistent. For the guys who really need Penis Enlargement I want them to know they can make changes, that they don't have to settle for what they have. Will it change the average penis size? I really don't think so but I do know allot of smaller guys will have the knowledge they need to change their lives.

Money in Penis Enlargement has always been available to me anytime I wanted it but I do this because I love Penis Enlargement, money means nothing to me. I have gotten so many offers over the years to endorse Pills, patches and the like and I have always and will always say fuck you. I help guys with Penis Enlargement because I love seeing guys make gains...fuck, it's my only job.
 
I think that making and maintaining big gains takes a lot of dedication and few men would have the will power that is necessary to make it happen. Even if Penis Enlargement was a lot more wide spread and mainstream I don't think that many guys would really stick with a routine for long enough to get more than a 1" increase in either direction (newbie gains).

Personally I know that even that is a lot but it doesn't mean that everyone will be walking around with 10 inchers. It's one thing I love about Penis Enlargement, you have to work at it. So when you do make gains, you can be proud of them.

I think DLD is right that it would be good for men that feel inferior due to size issues to know that there is a solution out there for them. Even if the whole world new about Penis Enlargement there would still only be the few guys that really stuck with it. Just like body building.
 
tbirdy said:
AND EXACTLY that is the right direction my friends.
When every guy will be equal , they will all come to senses and concentrate on much more important things in life. And pretty much everything is more important than penis size. Guys will be judged by looks and inner values.
And when someone finally comes up with the 1000$ full body and face perfect plastic surgery maybe it will be JUST intellect , charakter , inner values that will play a role in life - like seriously it should be.

I kinda see where you're coming from tbirdy, but that's total shit in my book. It could just as easily go the other way if you're talking about making everyone equal. Read Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut. Equal sucks, why would I want to be equal with ANYBODY? Sure, I agree that intellect is more important, definitely, but you can't ignore the physical! Or emotional for that matter. You gotta have balance. I know you're talking about if everyone was made physically perfect (equal) then we'd focus on other things, but then what's to stop people from developing a "brain perfector" eventually? We'd all be a bunch of drones. If I stand out in any aspect of my life it's because I work damn hard at it. Natural talent/genetics/whatever come into play also, but who wants to be "made perfect (equal)?"

Sorry for the rant, but that's one thing in particular that makes every part of me scream "NO! That's not right!!"
 
I honestly hope this fails horribly mainstream.

I like this, because it's like our little hideout for it. Although there are nearly 40k members, it is still relatively small.

Eventually though, I knew it would happen.

Either way, I'm very happy for DLD who has put his heart and soul into this.
 
DLD you should go on Howard Stern. He would take you on the show in a second. rofl He always says he's a bit undersized, so I'm sure he'd be interested. If you wanted to reach a huge group then that would definitely be the way to do it.
 
Good idea esteban! I imagine Stern would be interested in FR too, he's apparently made a few comments against circumcision on his show. That would be some amazing publicity!
 
Just read the posts at Thunders, and we need to keep our profile clean. I have been proud of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] posts and the attitude we have had. No slamming and no rock throwing. "He who throws mud, loses ground." Inaccurate conclusions and venting of anger for DLD prevails there. There are some who are trying to be fair over there and that certainly is refreshing. I have been around long enough to know when DLD gave his best at Thunders. Just another case of jealously and envy that has resulted in anger and slander. To all of us at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], let's keep a right attitude. GS
 
German Stallion said:
Just read the posts at Thunders, and we need to keep our profile clean. I have been proud of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] posts and the attitude we have had. No slamming and no rock throwing. "He who throws mud, loses ground." Inaccurate conclusions and venting of anger for DLD prevails there. There are some who are trying to be fair over there and that certainly is refreshing. I have been around long enough to know when DLD gave his best at Thunders. Just another case of jealously and envy that has resulted in anger and slander. To all of us at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], let's keep a right attitude. GS

Agreed. At the very least I expect us to perhaps question ideas and concepts. But do not engage in personal attacks on a man and his family. In other words if Thunder were in a magazine article, I may question any of what he says but I would never bring up his personal shit, attack his family, or say ridiculous things like "the writer is a hack because he freelances" or "anyone can get on a web article" or any number of things that would make me look not only an asshole, but also stupid. Actually if Thunder is in an article,I probably wouldnt question or criticize it much at all, considering I actually believe Penis Enlargement is real. That among all things is the one thing I dont understand, why thousands of guys are 24/7 on Penis Enlargement forums working to discredit it.
 
@cyclops "I kinda see where you're coming from tbirdy"

And I kinda see where you are coming from :)

"Equal sucks, why would I want to be equal with ANYBODY?"

Agreed !

"...but you can't ignore the physical!"

You sure CAN! Every person who truly feels love can !

"Or emotional for that matter. You gotta have balance. "

Agreed !

" I know you're talking about if everyone was made physically perfect (equal) then we'd focus on other things"

Thats exactly what I'm talking about. I was stressin that penis size is NOT as important as you believe. Atleast alot less important than other things.

"but then what's to stop people from developing a "brain perfector" eventually?"

Absolutely nothing. When the right time comes , we WILL have a brain perfector AND I will use it. And you my friend will use it too , just to catch up with everyone else.

Don't be so naive to believe we will all end up as drones.
That would take the "FUN" out of it. The LIFE out of LIFE.
Mankind is pretty dumb , but not THAT dumb.
If at all a brain perfector comes up , it will be something that will allow you to remember things quicker, think faster, and thus be smarter. It will NOT be something that kills your personality , it will just give you better memmory make you smarter. A planet of smart warmhearted-loving people , where everyone is able to learn everything what he chooses (and the choices will be different) is PARADISE. In my book , a much better place than this ill guided , selfdestroying , hating, corrupt world we live in right now (for the most part). Don't you agree ?

"Read Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut."

I do not need to read this because I'm also against drones and a clone world - but I do know what kind of equality is good and wich is bad. Everyone should have equal rights , equal possibilitys , equal access to knowledge and NOT be discriminated for a lack of wealth , looks , dick , color....

Even if you meet the most disgusting hating , shitty attitude kind of person , you shouldn't feel hate , but pity and empathy. Imagine if this person was brought up in YOUR family, he/she sure as hell would have developed to be a different person/charakter. SO he/she can't be blamed for what or who he/she is. You do not choose your parents, and once your old enough to actually make your own decisions you're probably to poisened, to misguided , to dishearted to make a change.
The biggest challange in life IN DEED is working on yourself day and night to become the best you can be in every aspect of your life and teach that to your children (wich on second thought probably is a much bigger challange)


Nuff said , I respect your opinion though. You DO think about the world we live in and thats more than most people do.
 
German Stallion said:
Just read the posts at Thunders, and we need to keep our profile clean. I have been proud of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] posts and the attitude we have had. No slamming and no rock throwing. "He who throws mud, loses ground." Inaccurate conclusions and venting of anger for DLD prevails there. There are some who are trying to be fair over there and that certainly is refreshing. I have been around long enough to know when DLD gave his best at Thunders. Just another case of jealously and envy that has resulted in anger and slander. To all of us at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], let's keep a right attitude. GS

I was just saying this to JAZ last night, he wanted to "defend" [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] and rightfully so but I advised him to just ignore. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] has come so far and when anything does well there are going to be haters, especially when it was one of their previous members. I am very proud of the way [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] guys have matured and learned to ignore ignorance. I think it is good to remember we came from nothing, a tiny, insignificant spec on the internet with less than 100 members and over are very short time on line we have grown to almost something:)

bigbutnottoo said:
Agreed. At the very least I expect us to perhaps question ideas and concepts. But do not engage in personal attacks on a man and his family. In other words if Thunder were in a magazine article, I may question any of what he says but I would never bring up his personal shit, attack his family, or say ridiculous things like "the writer is a hack because he freelances" or "anyone can get on a web article" or any number of things that would make me look not only an asshole, but also stupid. Actually if Thunder is in an article,I probably wouldnt question or criticize it much at all, considering I actually believe Penis Enlargement is real. That among all things is the one thing I dont understand, why thousands of guys are 24/7 on Penis Enlargement forums working to discredit it.

Big, Your attitude reflects your ability to be a leader in thought and action. The way you think is the reason I wanted you to moderate my forums. Your actions are honorable as you stand your ground whether here or at Thunders, that is admirable.
 
@ tbirdy

Cool bro, I can respect that. Didn't mean to go off.

I still disagree, or I should say I'm opposed to the brain perfector :D. "Making" everyone be "smart warm-hearted loving people." To me that's taking the personality out of people. I'd rather "John Doe" be an asshole than a forced reformee that's full of artificial love for humanity. Be proud of who you are and of the mental and physical capacity that God gave you. Do everything to make yourself better, I agree, but the brain surgery is too far IMO. Not to mention that the guBathmateent would surely take it over soon, and then you would have drones. ;)

Good to know your stance on the matter better though.
 
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Thought I'd chime in again here on this thread because, I know a lot of the guys from thunders browse the forums here as lurkers...most likely the adult entertainment forum only because many of them continue posting about making zero gains after months or years of "doing Penis Enlargement" (yea ok).

I love the whole concept of Penis Enlargement, not just [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] going public, and getting more exposure. Giving more credibility to Penis Enlargement in general is a good thing. I dont see any competition from other men being a potential threat to me personally. I'm doing this for my own reasons. I could care less about what another guy might do, or have. Even when I quit posting here for the most part, I will continue on with Penis Enlargement. I do Penis Enlargement as a part of my overall body improvement program. My penis is not the only part of me that I work on. I also watch what I eat. I've lost over 6" from my waist in the last few months, I work my abs, my upper body, etc. Penis Enlargement is just the icing on the cake to make the whole package of my body more of what I want. If I end up with a 10x7 non bp erection as well, fuckin fabulous. I dont do this stuff for anyone else but myself.

Penis Enlargement has the potential to improve a mans' overall well being and self view. If a man relates his emotial happyness with the size of his penis, that's his issue. If making his penis bigger improves how he feels about himself, whether in life in general, or just in the bedroom, thats great. Penis Enlargement has done its job.
 
His remarks underscore one of the real reasons I came to visit: verification. After all, pictures can always be doctored; proving your story is increasingly difficult in an age of Photoshop-spawned trompe l'oeil suspicion. Mike was OK with the arrangement, if a little nervous.
Now all the bitches at thunder's and around the internet can stfu about your size.

I have been here for a while now and I have defended your size countless times, and can say the attacks will continue to come and as long as you ignore them elsewhere and delete them here once they become trolls, all weill be fine.

I am happy and think this is an awesome step for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words]. I do understand why guys try to discredit it. The more people they can convince, and the more they can convince themselves, the more they can justify not making the effort to try and enlarge. They dont want to put in the time and effort to. I see things in this world moving and changing and I can see where it is all going. Going to be interesting to see it all as I am young...
 
German Stallion said:
Just read the posts at Thunders, and we need to keep our profile clean. I have been proud of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] posts and the attitude we have had. No slamming and no rock throwing. "He who throws mud, loses ground." Inaccurate conclusions and venting of anger for DLD prevails there. There are some who are trying to be fair over there and that certainly is refreshing. I have been around long enough to know when DLD gave his best at Thunders. Just another case of jealously and envy that has resulted in anger and slander. To all of us at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], let's keep a right attitude. GS

Agreed. All I will say is their behavior is consistently amazing. For every dig one can find here, you'll find 100 of them aimed at us over there. I'll never understand it.
 
He is sitting on the toilet, shirt off, shorts around his ankles, red-faced. His right hand holds a ruler and his left ... well, his left hand seems to be choking some otherworldly tentacle. The thing's the size of a paper towel roll, but looks perfectly healthy.

"Check the ruler," he says in a faintly strangled tone. Leaning forward gingerly, I confirm that his bone-pressed penis is indeed 10 and a half inches.

As the blood drains back to the rest of his body, Mike twists his penis over and points to the stretch mark. And, sure enough, it is there, and it is nearly 5 inches long, pink and angry, a symbol of everything a man can aspire to.
...
 
I honestly dont know anything about photshop. But what I find interesting is how so many people all over the internet accuse everyone of it. I mean in the bodybuilding forums(on bb.com) people were accusing Arnold Swarzenegger of Photshopping his pics that came out like 30 years ago.
 
bigbutnottoo said:
I honestly dont know anything about photshop. But what I find interesting is how so many people all over the internet accuse everyone of it. I mean in the bodybuilding forums(on bb.com) people were accusing Arnold Swarzenegger of Photshopping his pics that came out like 30 years ago.

I think Photoshop has become an easy scapegoat for peoples envy. Instead of accepting things, giving praise, and asking for help it is easier to have reasons not to believe.
 
man DLD i'm a lil late with the readin of this thing but WOW. i'm so glad that Penis Enlargement is out there now!! finally we're validated!! YEESSSS lol


so bout that [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words]??? give me the details about how it's gonna be all set and stuff. i might wanna pick one up :)
 
Congrats DLD, but I always wanted us to be a secret sect of society...but I do know by doing this, you wouldn't make money and would be on the street. I can just use it as motivation to get back into the game.
 
So DLD, is the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]dvd[/words] strictly mail order, or is it being released to retailers. If its mail order, would u happen to know what site to order from? I'm interested in it, but don't have a clue where to get ahold of this disk.
 
Congratulations, DLD, awesome that it's finally being vaguely accepted as 'real' by someone. You're quite the motivation to everyone. I also have OCD and slight agoraphobia, so I know it's tough. Congratulations to you for being able to deal with it! :D
 
chainandballer said:
I'll tell you a story about a man who invented a cure for every ailment known to man. He invented an x-ray type machine that would shoot something like an electrical laser through your body, it would destroy all the disease causing bacteria in your body.

The multi billion dollar pharmaceutical business killed him and burned all his research, as it would have rendered them all jobless.


lol To clarify this very tall tale, an x-ray would split the helix structure of your DNA and give you cancer. The notion the you can only hit the 'bacteria' is completely nonsensical.
 
DriverNuts said:
I hope you sold a ton of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words]'s :)

We are selling [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]DVD[/words]'s, just can't wait to get paid for them.
 
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