Oh I see what you mean now. Well that's up to you actually. I just keep going. Say if I do BTC stretches left, right, then middle, ill go in the next set already until I'm done with that portion then go on to the next stretching portion. I would suggest, from a personal standpoint, to keep stretching the penis and not allowing the penis to try and retract at any point.

Well I agree and disagree with that theory, not that I'm trying to gun after DLD, but to me, I try to get my penis to fatigue when I'm stretching and nothing beyond that. Not neccessarily overtraining it perse, but maybe you should introduce your penis slowly to the lenghtened time. Like do 1 hour one day then 1:15, then 1:30, then so on and so on. Just so that it can't adapt rather than just throwing all this training all at once.

For the Extender being visible, just find pants thatll make it less noticable. I have that problem with the UJW, but I found clothes that concealed it or made it look like a nice buldge. You can train everyday, that's wha I do. What I mean is, during the time you are not training, heal. The penis begins to heal itself as soon as you finish your session. If it retracts, that's the state it'll heal itself in. But if you keep it elongated the tissues will remain lengthened and adapt itself in that way. So I put on UJW for an hour after my session, sleep, then the next day put it on again for most of the day until my session again. Hopefully this makes sense.

By putting a grip at the base and stretching, the stretch is more focused on your Tunica. Nothing wrong with that, but you're focusing on the ligaments correct? I would suggest the gloves, they work wonders man! Where are you gripping when you stretch? Try to grip a little further away from your glans for better leverage.

I haven't measured since last month but I was at 6.15 EL from 5.75 EL. I measured my FSL just a few days ago and I'm at 6.75. I will measure at the end of March for exact numbers. And this was all in a month.
 
Oh yeah I try the best to do that as well..But ultimately you know it'll retract sometime..

You know in the beginning of end of December when I started Penis Enlargement officially I was stretching pretty crazily and I had several threads on whether I was overtraining or not. Everybody told me to stop what I was doing right away and start doing half of newbie routine to make my penis conditioned for more stretching. But like always I was obsessed with trying to gains and I tried couple days and I went back to streching the shit out of it...I also had no other activities or nothing until February then I got busy again.
Is it too late to go back to doing 1 hour because I am thinking about doing just what you said..

Would sweatpants work? I have black sweatpants as well so maybe they'll work? What do you think about Penis Enlargementweights rings or circle device dfranceinc.com. Are they just as good as extenders or even better because you got weight hanging from your dick all day? If I had enough money I would really consider buying it. Yeah I see what you are saying now. I'll get a ACE wrap tomorrow and start up...

Yes I'm targeting the ligaments because I've seen information saying it is faster growth. Damn, maybe I'll buy them tomorrow as well. I try to grip as far from the base as possible. So like right under my glans usually. What I usually do is have atleast 1 finger wrapped around under the glans and atleast one wrapped around on the skin so I get a fairly good stretch...Doesn't that become more ineffective because your just stretching the skin or something? I'm not sure just curious...When doing BTC I'm usually not left with a choice you know you have to grip further away from your glans so I always wonder whether it's really streching or just the skin..

Damn you are a fast gainer! I did Penis Enlargement for 2 weeks back in July last year and took the next 5 months break and I was possibly 4.7-4.8. Now my memory is sooo bad that I can't remember whether it was the same or did I meausre it wrong, I'm constantly doubting that I gained anything because in December when I measured I was around 5.4 - 5.5..I still have doubt that I just measured wrong. ANd I am talking about NBPenis EnlargementL. It's pretty much stayed the same to this day from December. Also, when I sit the measurement seems to have increased as far as length I don't know why but I get 5.7-5.8 sometimes!

What do you think about hanging by the way? You think it's faster than manuals and ensures gains?
 
I'm planning on doing Manuals + Extender until June and see what happens (I might just do it for a month to see if even a little bit of results) and then I'll add hanging as people view it as the last resort sometimes lol...
 
I believe that there is a thread somewhere lurking around here about deconditioning the penis, if I can find it ill send it to you. But if you find it before me then great. If memory serves me correctly, it talks about the issue of making your penis deconditioned from what its normally used to so that you can revert to the basics again and continue to gain. But seeing as how you only have about 3 months of Penis Enlargement under your belt I would say you don't have to worry about that. Just ween off slowly so that your penis can understand what you are doing to it. Even take a few days off or train every other day training less and less until you reach an hour.

I've heard of MasterLock Hanging, never Penis Enlargement weight rings, I will look into that and give you my opinion. Really all you want to do is keep your penis extended. I just know that the SizeGenetics Extender or a good Extender helps to bring out more of the inner penis while healing it. That's the only reason why its so effecient, but anything that keeps the penis extended is great!

Well you also want to stretch the skin as well. By stretching the skin you're making my room for tissue to grow in. You want to stretch both. What I love about the BTC is that it is doing exactly that. Its hitting my ligaments nicely while at the same time extending my skin so my penile tissues can fill in. I usually hold in between where my tunica is and behind the glans. You see the space between your glans and that line on your penis? That's where I grip.

Believe in your Penis Enlargement journey. That's the key to becoming a fast gainer. It really is a mind over matter thing when it comes to gains. I look at penis everyday and say "damn! I'm growing! Almost to 8"!" And I do Vizualization exercises almost everyday as much as I can. Some guys so don't, but I say think about it.

I think hanging is a great asset to Penis Enlargement. However, I feel that once manual exercise has reached its plateu then start hanging.
 
Ok sure..But if there's a way to really get back to the basics then why do so many people hit plateau after gains or even witout gains and can never gain again.. And you know you don't always get what you want when you want...By that I mean just because I want 2 inches or so before June doesn't mean I'm getting it. Currently I see little to no chance of getting there by June. However, If I get even close to an inch by June I will be very pleased and more motivated to get to the next inch!

search up peweights.com. SOme members have tried this and the founder of Penis EnlargementWeights gained 2 inches just frm hanging 2-3 lbs weights from his dick all day...It also seems quite simple. Same thing with circle device although it's way too costly for the product. The good thing is you give them your girth and they make one to fit you perfectly and you can supposedly take a piss with it on...They both seem very comfortable, much more than extender or UJS.

I see what you mean. Yeah BTC is one of my favorites. I used to do around 30-40 minutes of just BTC in January now I kind of balanced it out and am doing outer streches more.
What do you mean by tunica? Mid-Shaft? By the line you mean the bottom of your glans where theres like a "line" of space that's lower? WHich is right below the glans, I try to put one finger there..

Yeah I hear you. But it gets really frustrating and demotivating sometimes when you don't see gains and you've been working your ass off for months on just Penis Enlargement...BUt anything for the next 2 inches.

Yeah I feel the same. Many shift to hanging from manuals but never heard about anyone shifting frm hanging to manuals...
 
Its best if you read the thread yourself, cause I'm not really giving it justice. Its not necessaricly reverting back to basics but it deconditions it so that one can continue gaining. Its like a shock treatment to your penis to keep gaining.

Don't doubt yourself, dude. If you want those gains by June, really believe in it. It is possible to get 2" by that time but you have to tell yourself that you ARE gaining. If you keep denying it, the gains won't come. It really is a mindgame you have to play with yourself. I believe that every guy here can, will and is gaining cause I belive in Penis Enlargement and I believe in all of you!

Yes, in between the glans and mids-shaft is where I grab. It gives me better leverage and I can pull skin and penis at the same time.
Okay, I will look them up in just a moment.
 
Okay sure.

Yeah I know what you mean. But it is theoretically impossible...2 inches in 4 months is nuts! But yeah I still believe and sometimes even pray at night before going to sleep LOL! yeah it's funny but I really need it by June. It's hard to convince yourself you are gaining if you truly are not. This is 100% physical change you know. Mayb your Penis Enlargement motivation, passion, and energy can be really high but those are the only things that are going to help bring my gains..

Same here. I've also been doing some modified stretches in my Penis Enlargement time to add any little bit amount of extra intensity
 
As far as the hanging goes, that is totally your decision to make. Hanging is great for gaining and I have nothing against it. Lightweight hanging seems to be much more beneficial because you can hang longer and really allow the penis tissue to tear apart for a longer amount of time. Really look at the hanging fourm if you're going to do so and see the do's and donts before you make your final decision. I will be doing some hanging when manual stretching reaches its plateau.

As far as the cockring weights. That looks a little iffy to me only because it looks like it might be a pain putting it on and off and the chance of it getting stuck and depleting blood to the penis. I don't know for sure, I'm only going off the pictures. I'm sure you have better knowledge of it than I do, I'm just giving my opinion. But now I am curious and I think ill do more research.
 
Yeaah...In my opinion manual is the safest so far even though sometimes I've experienced sharp pains while pulling straight down possibly because of angle or maybe nails I am not sure but they hurt like a bitch.

Does Uncle Jim's Strap feel comfortable and do they produce EL results or cementing results? I mean I seen that you have to keep taking it on and off every 20-30 to keep the blood flow going.
 
Actually I had those pains to when pulling down. It is the angle and the way your pulling. Puliing straight out or up is different from pulling downwards as I believe it has to do with the LOT theory. I believe that downward stretches are targeting the tunica first then the ligaments second, so the sharp pain is from pulling too hard trying to feel the stretch in the ligaments when you're actually hitting the tunica first. My suggestion for this is grab closer to the base of the penis then pull. Pulling from near the glans will stretch the tunica whereas near the base will target the ligaments. I like to do both grips so I can deform the tunica and stretch the ligaments to get gains from both.
Hanging is still great when done properly, but I would suggest gaining as much knowledge of it before attempting.

It will feel "funny" at first. You will have to mess around with it for a little to get the feel you want. You want it so its comfortable to wear for an hour, but start off with 15 min intervals for a week, the 30, 45 until you reach an hour. Then take it off, stretch for 5 minute and put it back on, repeat.
 
Yeah I figured. I personally don't understand wtf the LOT theory is and pay attention to it.
yeah I'm going to stretch like that for today's sesion.
I'm going to start hanging asap. I personally feel like this stretching ain't working for me..And trying to save up and buy circle device or some good ADS. What do you think about VLC Tugger?

I see. That's fine with me. What do you think about both hanging and stretching everyday? Tunica stretching and ligaments hanging? Would that be overtraining if I hang for 1-2 hours and do Tunica work for 1 hour or so? Some poeple like Dashdeming has gained tremendously by just doing one 20 minute set every day and 800 dry jelqs.
 
helpseeker;535493 said:
search up peweights.com. the founder of Penis EnlargementWeights gained 2 inches just frm hanging 2-3 lbs weights from his dick all day...

FALSE. Monty is a hanger, thus has used proper heavier weights to make his gains.
 
Yes, He uses his ADS to keep the ligs/shaft in an extended state after his hanging session.
 
helpseeker;535802 said:
Yeah I figured. I personally don't understand wtf the LOT theory is and pay attention to it.
yeah I'm going to stretch like that for today's sesion.
I'm going to start hanging asap. I personally feel like this stretching ain't working for me..And trying to save up and buy circle device or some good ADS. What do you think about VLC Tugger?

I have no experience in hanging, so I couldn't tell you for sure. But you definitely want to start out slow at first then build your way up, just like with anything new.
I see. That's fine with me. What do you think about both hanging and stretching everyday? Tunica stretching and ligaments hanging? Would that be overtraining if I hang for 1-2 hours and do Tunica work for 1 hour or so? Some poeple like Dashdeming has gained tremendously by just doing one 20 minute set every day and 800 dry jelqs.
 
I don't have any experience in hanging so I can't really say for sure. Like anything, start off small then build your way up. I know that hanging can be very dangerous if done incorrectly and the last thing you want to do is hurt yourself. Can't train a broken penis right? Haha! I would say that 2 hrs of hanging is too much for just starting out. Probably 15 mins at a low weight is good. Then just build on that. Definitely check the Hanging Forum for better knowledge and understanding. Ill be doing that when my stretching has reached a plateau.
 
Yeah I guess...
Btw I tried the gloves thing. I don't have latex gloves probably, but I got some plastic type glove..it's silk and slippery but I'm getting a crazy good grip!
 
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Yeahh! Thanks bro I got a crazy stretch pulling down with as much intensity as possible I could feel the pull even in the inside. I never had that happen.
On the other side, Today while taking a piss I pulled it out all the way and the size was really disapointing for me because I feel like I've gained nothing..It looked smaaalll :( But I'll keep on trying
 
helpseeker;536635 said:
Yeahh! Thanks bro I got a crazy stretch pulling down with as much intensity as possible I could feel the pull even in the inside. I never had that happen.
On the other side, Today while taking a piss I pulled it out all the way and the size was really disapointing for me because I feel like I've gained nothing..It looked smaaalll :( But I'll keep on trying

SO you are saying that the down position is the only stretch position that you are feeling intensity?
 
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