Now The World Knows....MOS

REDZULU2003 said:
Also Dr. J. Francois Eid thr Clinical Associate Professor of Urology at the Weill-Cornell Medical College of Cornell University, well I emailed him my pix and some info on my story lol
The shallow bastard, heres his details http://www.urologicalcare.com/home.html I cant belive that a specialist in that field would shrug Penis Enlargement off like that, PURE IGNORANCE.
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It's not even that or "if" he is ignorant. When I read this line, I couldnt help but think this "Doctor's" way of thinking is nothing less than a philosophical viewpoint that is the enemy of mankind.

This Quote:
"The penis is a beautifully designed anatomical marvel that has evolved through millions of years," says Dr. J. Francois Eid, director of the Advanced Urological Care Center in New York. "It's immature, arrogant even, to think that we can do better."

What this really means, is that philosophically this man who is supposed to be a doctor of science is philosophically opposed to all ( non-evolved) innovation in the history of mankind. His attitude is that whatever exists is good enough and it is "arrogant" to try to improve on anything. I would suppose if he existed when someone discovered fire or invented the wheel he would have opposed those as immature for not accepting things as they are. What about all the great medical breakthroughs in surgery and medicine that have saved or prolonged millions of peoples lives? Were the doctors immature and arrogant? I'm not saying Penis Enlargement saves lives, just philosophy that exists that allows people to innovate and improve their lives and how this guy is diametrically opposed.

I almost have trouble even believing this man exists. I mean he sounds like a villain from an Ayn Rand novel or something. The sad thing is that people who think like this are pretty common.
 
Yer good read DLD,

I had a laugh when i read "he refuses to stand up with an erection", as I know when you stand up your pelvis shifts forward and your length appears to be less, so id remain sitting also! hehe

mad read mate, enjoyed it... i was like "i cbf tonight" but now i read that im going to do some Penis Enlargement.

cheers man
 
Congratulations DLD, great article and I hope that the DVD release will be a breakthrough for you. How about offering a discount to current MOS paysite members, and vice-versa - a discounted MOS membership for those who purchase the DVD?
 
Thanks for sharing your story, DLD. OCD and major depression suck, and it's great to see how you've taken adversity and redirected into something so damn fantastic.

Cheers and best of luck!
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Very cool!!! Its awesome to see alot of forward movement around here lately. I have to commend you on that. Congratulations!!!
 
Perfect post. I couldn't agree more. This guy sounds just like another Lord Kelvin to me. Kelvin died about a 100 years ago, but remains one of Britain's most revered scientists after his extensive work in the field of thermodynamics. Check out three of his most entertaining quotes:

"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible."
--Lord Kelvin (1895)

Fucking brilliant! The first "heavier-than-air flying machine" took flight only 8 years later.

"There is nothing new to be discovered in physics now. All that remains is more and more precise measurement."
--Lord Kelvin (1900)

The man does it again! I don't think I need to tell anyone what happened over the past 105 years since this idiotic and arrogant prediction.

"Radio has no future."
--Lord Kelvin (1897)

Yep. Right on the money.

I remember hearing that there are three steps in the process of the masses accepting and adopting a new idea, product or service:

1. Widespread ridicule of the inventor/thinker, especially from established "experts". At this stage, nearly everyone will discourage the inventor/thinker, saying that they'd never accept their product/service/idea in a million years.

2. Early adoption by fringe elements of the populous. This happens after, upon further examination and testing, these fringe elements see the merit in the product/service/idea. These people usually take pride in admitting that they were the very first ones to jump on the bandwagon. The vast majority of rest of the population will ridicule the fringe elements, while the rest will become converts. Slowly.

3. Mainstream adoption by the masses. A "tipping point" is reached after receiving either a certain amount of media coverage, or scientific verification. Or both. At this stage nearly everyone else- the fucking liars, hypocrites and revisionists that they are- will claim to have never rejected the product/service/idea in the first place. They may have not fully accepted it, but they certainly didn't reject it. Noooo.

We're at the second stage, my friends. We're the fringe group. The scientific verification will come with time. I know that at least one study has scientifically proven that jelqing works. More will follow. Only a matter of time, folks.

bigbutnottoo said:
It's not even that or "if" he is ignorant. When I read this line, I couldnt help but think this "Doctor's" way of thinking is nothing less than a philosophical viewpoint that is the enemy of mankind.

This Quote:
"The penis is a beautifully designed anatomical marvel that has evolved through millions of years," says Dr. J. Francois Eid, director of the Advanced Urological Care Center in New York. "It's immature, arrogant even, to think that we can do better."

What this really means, is that philosophically this man who is supposed to be a doctor of science is philosophically opposed to all ( non-evolved) innovation in the history of mankind. His attitude is that whatever exists is good enough and it is "arrogant" to try to improve on anything. I would suppose if he existed when someone discovered fire or invented the wheel he would have opposed those as immature for not accepting things as they are. What about all the great medical breakthroughs in surgery and medicine that have saved or prolonged millions of peoples lives? Were the doctors immature and arrogant? I'm not saying Penis Enlargement saves lives, just philosophy that exists that allows people to innovate and improve their lives and how this guy is diametrically opposed.

I almost have trouble even believing this man exists. I mean he sounds like a villain from an Ayn Rand novel or something. The sad thing is that people who think like this are pretty common.
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As posted at Thunder's. "The salon.com effect."

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Damn, look how fancy that DVD case is,

Now, click on the DVD and go to the next page, look how pro DLD looks where he is standing on the ruler, with his swanky Doctor uniform on, he must have rubbed a whole pound of bacon all over his hair cuz it is SLICK!!! :D
 
Baraka said:
I remember hearing that there are three steps in the process of the masses accepting and adopting a new idea, product or service:

1. Widespread ridicule of the inventor/thinker, especially from established "experts". At this stage, nearly everyone will discourage the inventor/thinker, saying that they'd never accept their product/service/idea in a million years.

2. Early adoption by fringe elements of the populous. This happens after, upon further examination and testing, these fringe elements see the merit in the product/service/idea. These people usually take pride in admitting that they were the very first ones to jump on the bandwagon. The vast majority of rest of the population will ridicule the fringe elements, while the rest will become converts. Slowly.

3. Mainstream adoption by the masses. A "tipping point" is reached after receiving either a certain amount of media coverage, or scientific verification. Or both. At this stage nearly everyone else- the fucking liars, hypocrites and revisionists that they are- will claim to have never rejected the product/service/idea in the first place. They may have not fully accepted it, but they certainly didn't reject it. Noooo.

We're at the second stage, my friends. We're the fringe group. The scientific verification will come with time. I know that at least one study has scientifically proven that jelqing works. More will follow. Only a matter of time, folks.
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You gotta remember though, once Natural Penis Enlargement goes mainstream, there will be absolutely no money in it, the exercises will be all over the internet for free, or you could even ask you buddy who you know Penis Enlargement's for some exercises, because it will be more acceptable then to do so than now......
This right now, today, is the day to be making money off it, not tommorow....

On another note, like 15 people have registered in the 10 minutes I have been on here.....crazy
 
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Nah, DLD will have to open the "MOS gym." Join today and you get 2 free sessions with a private instructor! It'll be bigger than Gold's. :D
 
9cyclops9 said:
Nah, DLD will have to open the "MOS gym." Join today and you get 2 free sessions with a private instructor! It'll be bigger than Gold's. :D
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That would be sweet! He could even hire some sexy ladies to help with the girth workouts!
 
Once its mainstream you will have even more women expecting YOU to be big, because "hey joe does his jelquin why cant you?" Big dick will become even more important to all kinds of women. Much more pressure on the male specie.
Great for those who gained, are gaining, can gain - pretty fuckin devastating for those who can't.
Once it hits "sex and the city like" mainstream tv EVERY single women on this planet will secretly crave and want a well endowed man and will be dissapointed EVEN more if you don't live up to the hype.
Well I knew this would be mainstream sooner or later, i must admit I hoped it wouldn't get out that fast.

my theory on this however is that all of this is first step in the right direction. its important , but its not THAT important.

Still, even with all the knowledge and technique and validation that it does work OUT THERE it still needs work&time. And this is something most people will not be willing to invest.

What WILL happen 100% though is that science will take notice. Even more so BIG COMPANYS WITH MILLIONs oF DOLLARS will do more research more studys and finally come up with some "erectile tissue cultivation and implant surgery" that will allow every man with 1000$ to enlarge his penis to 8x6.

AND EXACTLY that is the right direction my friends.
When every guy will be equal , they will all come to senses and concentrate on much more important things in life. And pretty much everything is more important than penis size. Guys will be judged by looks and inner values.
And when someone finally comes up with the 1000$ full body and face perfect plastic surgery maybe it will be JUST intellect , charakter , inner values that will play a role in life - like seriously it should be.

"the very great majority -- 99 percent -- have normal penile size. It's a psychological problem more than a physical one."

EXACTLY and soon every male who still is an active fucker will be have a BIG normal penis size and if it was a psychological problem before , this man will develope another obsession on a different terrain.

I really feel sorry for the guy who meets the women he dreamed of his entire life , that means the world to him and even more, unfortunatly her pussy will be to small to have sex with him and it will be all pain. And don't gimme that "it can be stretched comment" yes it can , under pain , and the it will go back to normal and you have new pain that you cause each and every time.


just 2 cents from a romantic fool.


I'm not just critisizing though. The other good thing (most important) and HUGE credit for that to DLD is that all those poor men with peyronies will have more hope and more chances to better their conditions.
DLD you helped many many men, but its not about the arrogant fucker who had 7.5 x 5.5 and wanted 9x7 to impress his buddys , its about those men who have peyronies or are like 2,3,4 erect inches. You helped those guys too and you most definetly deserve whatever good things happen to you in the future.
 
WOw, I have just been to "the other" Penis Enlargement forum to check out the thread about that Salon article.......
Those guys loathe DLD......obviously its about the success, not the man....
Philadelph and koooky were also checkin it out :D
I mean, this thread here about the article is only 3 pages long, given, thats probly because subject matter has scared everyone right to hell, but the thread there is about 8 pages long, and I read through it a bit and just reading their negativity, its infectious, I was starting to think "Damn that DLD, Damn him to hell" :D
Its like they dont beleive in Penis Enlargement themselves....

THough Dld, I think if you want to make some good money all you have to do is say: Im gonna make this shit mainstream unless all you guys deposit $20 into my account immediately, you be a millionaire by morning I'll tell you that....
Sorry for being so selfish.....its hard enough knowing Penis Enlargement hardly works for you WITHOUT the rest of the world knowing, all its gonna be is the guys it didnt work for and the guys with 10"s

DLD, you could always move up to where I live and be my business partner, any good at digging holes??? lol
 
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VladtheImpaler said:
WOw, I have just been to "the other" Penis Enlargement forum to check out the thread about that Salon article.......well, hehe, I always thought those guys didnt like DLD, but holy shit, they could base their life on loathing you man, wow.....
Philadelph and koooky were also checkin it out :D
I mean, this thread here about the article is only 3 pages long, given, thats probly because subject matter has scared everyone right to hell, but the thread there is about 8 pages long, and I read through it a bit and just reading their negativity, its infectious, I was starting to think "Damn that DLD, Damn him to hell" :D
Its like they dont beleive in Penis Enlargement themselves....
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They should change the forum name to peisfake.com. They talk about my dick and me more than my girl does. Damn, talk about renting space in someone's head, based on that I think I have mortgage out on their entire member base.
 
tbirdy said:
Once its mainstream you will have even more women expecting YOU to be big, because "hey joe does his jelquin why cant you?" Big dick will become even more important to all kinds of women. Much more pressure on the male specie.
Great for those who gained, are gaining, can gain - pretty fuckin devastating for those who can't.
Once it hits "sex and the city like" mainstream tv EVERY single women on this planet will secretly crave and want a well endowed man and will be dissapointed EVEN more if you don't live up to the hype.
Well I knew this would be mainstream sooner or later, i must admit I hoped it wouldn't get out that fast.

my theory on this however is that all of this is first step in the right direction. its important , but its not THAT important.

Still, even with all the knowledge and technique and validation that it does work OUT THERE it still needs work&time. And this is something most people will not be willing to invest.

What WILL happen 100% though is that science will take notice. Even more so BIG COMPANYS WITH MILLIONs oF DOLLARS will do more research more studys and finally come up with some "erectile tissue cultivation and implant surgery" that will allow every man with 1000$ to enlarge his penis to 8x6.

AND EXACTLY that is the right direction my friends.
When every guy will be equal , they will all come to senses and concentrate on much more important things in life. And pretty much everything is more important than penis size. Guys will be judged by looks and inner values.
And when someone finally comes up with the 1000$ full body and face perfect plastic surgery maybe it will be JUST intellect , charakter , inner values that will play a role in life - like seriously it should be.

"the very great majority -- 99 percent -- have normal penile size. It's a psychological problem more than a physical one."

EXACTLY and soon every male who still is an active fucker will be have a BIG normal penis size and if it was a psychological problem before , this man will develope another obsession on a different terrain.

I really feel sorry for the guy who meets the women he dreamed of his entire life , that means the world to him and even more, unfortunatly her pussy will be to small to have sex with him and it will be all pain. And don't gimme that "it can be stretched comment" yes it can , under pain , and the it will go back to normal and you have new pain that you cause each and every time.


just 2 cents from a romantic fool.


I'm not just critisizing though. The other good thing (most important) and HUGE credit for that to DLD is that all those poor men with peyronies will have more hope and more chances to better their conditions.
DLD you helped many many men, but its not about the arrogant fucker who had 7.5 x 5.5 and wanted 9x7 to impress his buddys , its about those men who have peyronies or are like 2,3,4 erect inches. You helped those guys too and you most definetly deserve whatever good things happen to you in the future.
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Alot of good points

THough Dld, I think if you want to make some good money all you have to do is say: Im gonna make this shit mainstream unless all you guys deposit $20 into my account immediately, you be a millionaire by morning I'll tell you that....
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I agree, I aint no problems with anyone makeing some cash, but sellouts is just something I aint down with...and this has kinda sold out nearly on all fronts. Hey, I will live with it lol but I hope it fails mainstream and I myself wont encourage Penis Enlargement outside the forums and pray to god that Urologists keep saying its bullshit. Selfish? perhaps, but I dont want other men outside knowing this shit, its like a animal survival instinct I have if you will....I help guys on this and Zululand forums, but anywhere else than FUCK OFF cos Penis Enlargement is crap lol Outside in the mainstream its ONE motive, and thats money makeing. Penis Enlargement has been carved from not just one man, but thousands upon thousands whom have built theorys, tested exercises etc etc.
Only thing that can really be sold is devices and paysites, but it gets to a point like I say when you see SELL OUT LMAO

You gotta remember though, once Natural Penis Enlargement goes mainstream, there will be absolutely no money in it, the exercises will be all over the internet for free, or you could even ask you buddy who you know Penis Enlargement's for some exercises, because it will be more acceptable then to do so than now......
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They will be enough money to be made for those whom are clever enough to know how to find the work, such as bib for example.
He must have made a nice profit, why else would he keep doing it? this isnt a attack on him, just a point.
DLD has the PA, the DVD and paysite amongst other stuff so yeah money is there to be made.
I might jump on the wagon oneday and sell Zulu Cock rings lol j/k
Its tempting, but it doesnt feel right.
 
I don't worry about Penis Enlargement going mainstream, this stuff has been available for a long time and most men turn their noses up at it. I think, even if Penis Enlargement made into mainstream news, most men would not have what it takes to remain consistent. For the guys who really need Penis Enlargement I want them to know they can make changes, that they don't have to settle for what they have. Will it change the average penis size? I really don't think so but I do know allot of smaller guys will have the knowledge they need to change their lives.

Money in Penis Enlargement has always been available to me anytime I wanted it but I do this because I love Penis Enlargement, money means nothing to me. I have gotten so many offers over the years to endorse Pills, patches and the like and I have always and will always say fuck you. I help guys with Penis Enlargement because I love seeing guys make gains...fuck, it's my only job.
 
I think that making and maintaining big gains takes a lot of dedication and few men would have the will power that is necessary to make it happen. Even if Penis Enlargement was a lot more wide spread and mainstream I don't think that many guys would really stick with a routine for long enough to get more than a 1" increase in either direction (newbie gains).

Personally I know that even that is a lot but it doesn't mean that everyone will be walking around with 10 inchers. It's one thing I love about Penis Enlargement, you have to work at it. So when you do make gains, you can be proud of them.

I think DLD is right that it would be good for men that feel inferior due to size issues to know that there is a solution out there for them. Even if the whole world new about Penis Enlargement there would still only be the few guys that really stuck with it. Just like body building.
 
tbirdy said:
AND EXACTLY that is the right direction my friends.
When every guy will be equal , they will all come to senses and concentrate on much more important things in life. And pretty much everything is more important than penis size. Guys will be judged by looks and inner values.
And when someone finally comes up with the 1000$ full body and face perfect plastic surgery maybe it will be JUST intellect , charakter , inner values that will play a role in life - like seriously it should be.
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I kinda see where you're coming from tbirdy, but that's total shit in my book. It could just as easily go the other way if you're talking about making everyone equal. Read Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut. Equal sucks, why would I want to be equal with ANYBODY? Sure, I agree that intellect is more important, definitely, but you can't ignore the physical! Or emotional for that matter. You gotta have balance. I know you're talking about if everyone was made physically perfect (equal) then we'd focus on other things, but then what's to stop people from developing a "brain perfector" eventually? We'd all be a bunch of drones. If I stand out in any aspect of my life it's because I work damn hard at it. Natural talent/genetics/whatever come into play also, but who wants to be "made perfect (equal)?"

Sorry for the rant, but that's one thing in particular that makes every part of me scream "NO! That's not right!!"
 
I honestly hope this fails horribly mainstream.

I like this, because it's like our little hideout for it. Although there are nearly 40k members, it is still relatively small.

Eventually though, I knew it would happen.

Either way, I'm very happy for DLD who has put his heart and soul into this.
 
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