What you all have been waiting for! SizeGenetics EXTENDER...Only $165!
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I've heard good results from [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] users. This one LOOKS like a good design, I'd like to see someone from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] test it out and see if it's comfortable etc. Not me, I'm broke, I just bought a pump 
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.Come on Chris, stop avoiding the big question most wants to know, dont say "I'll have to check that, and get back to you later"
So we need answer, do not answer anything before you answer this, because its very important.
For how long(inches) can the device be stretched-out to its maximum?
Lets say this: big Carl stops in at your site and see's: 'Grow 2-4" inches in length, "Fits all penis sizes"' The problem is, Carl has an 9.5" dick. Would it fit?
So we need answer, do not answer anything before you answer this, because its very important.
For how long(inches) can the device be stretched-out to its maximum?
Lets say this: big Carl stops in at your site and see's: 'Grow 2-4" inches in length, "Fits all penis sizes"' The problem is, Carl has an 9.5" dick. Would it fit?
Thnx dash for stating what I have been trying to - Sometimes I dont have the right woreds to say 
Thats why im not the salesmen lol
I *think* it can can accomidate up to 10 inch BUT some of our staff IS 10 inches and they are using the product.
Sorry about the delaying in answering- As i have stated early I am in the middle of moving
Thats why im not the salesmen lol I *think* it can can accomidate up to 10 inch BUT some of our staff IS 10 inches and they are using the product.
Sorry about the delaying in answering- As i have stated early I am in the middle of moving
Damn, who on the staff is that big? Don't need names obviously, but could they tell us what they did to get that big or do you know? Were they already that big lol. Did they use the product for a long time or did hanging, manual Penis Enlargement? What? Just interested.
Here's my thought about this and a lot of the bitching going on here.
I dont know if this product works or not. I have never used one and I dont know anyone who has. But I'd like to let the market decide. What do I mean by that? Well some of your bitching ( without using it first as directed for many months) an concern of being "scammed" is just plain irrational.
I have no doubt that if this thing DOES NOT WORK, that several people here who have used it with no success will let the results plainly known. I have no doubt that if it does not work and enough people complain ( especially if DLD uses it and it doesnt work for him) that [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] will end its associtation and DLD will be honest about the effectiveness or lack thereof. Dont you remember the ROP? Many people, myself included bought that from Supra consensually and found it to not be all it was cracked up to be. And we let it be known on these forums. many of us, friends of Supra included, let it be clearly known that we thought the ROP was not effective. And IIRC, those posts well allowed for all to see. Thats the beauty of market validation and word of mouth. Let it do its wonder on this device as well.
Now WHAT IF IT DOES WORK? Then its ALL GOOD. You GAIN DICK, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] MAKES MONEY,etc. What the fuck are you all bitching about? All negative and lazy thought.
If it doesnt work, get your fucking money back and let everyone know it sucks. Please. If you dont wanna buy it, dont fuckin buy it. But dont rain on anyone else who wants to buy it and at least see what it can do.They are big boys who can make their own decisions and they can get a refund if needed.
As far as other complaints like "it can cause numbness". Give me a fucking break. This is coming from guys who do things like clamp and twist their dicks until they turn purple and look like dying eggplants.
And as for "Wow man. It costs way too much. I would never pay $150 for my dick." Newsflash, Einstein. You already did. THERES NOT A SINGLE GUY HERE YOU HASNT ALREADY PUT OVER $150 into his dick ( Unless you just started a couple weeks ago or never put in any time). Some of us have literally put in $1000s. Whats your time worth? $150 is less than working 30 hours at a MINIMUM WAGE JOB. Hell, maybe some of you guys are worth less than minimum wage or zero, I dont know. But I can tell you my time is worth a lot more than that. If I put in hundreds of hours a year pulling my dick, thats worth a lot more than $150 in opportunity costs. Ask DLD how many hours hes spent over the last few years performing exercises, wirting material, making new techniques, helping others,etc. Yes hes gained quite a bit of size, but even with all his inches I guarantee you he has spent thousands of dollars per inch. Yet people complain about $150. IMO even if you got only half an inch or an inch for $150, that is well worth it. I mean some people spend thousands for surgery and get nothing or less, and some people put in undreds of hours of work and might get a measurable result. Hell, what if you spend $150 and gain 2"? What a bargain, and one that could be well worth finding out. And hey, what if it doesnt work and you get your money back? You spent close to $0 to get 0, and you didnt use much time since you can do other shit while wearing it( as claimed anyway). Either way you win.
I'd like to see some people get this for a few reasons. 1. I want [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] to make money and it will work two-fold. They will get more real members to take this deal as well as make money off the sale. And its all money back guaranteed. If you dont want to just give donations, this is a good way to contribute- An Exchange of Fair Value 2. I want to grow my dick. If this works-great. if not- more knowledge anyway.
I'd like to see some people try this ( mayb I will, not sure yet) and then have a REAL discussion on its effectiveness. And that doesnt mean trying something once or twice or not putting in any effort and then bitching it doesnt work ( though if its physcially harmfull thats naother thing, of course). To me If I could get anything close to an inch off this I consider it a bargain.
Alright.
I dont know if this product works or not. I have never used one and I dont know anyone who has. But I'd like to let the market decide. What do I mean by that? Well some of your bitching ( without using it first as directed for many months) an concern of being "scammed" is just plain irrational.
I have no doubt that if this thing DOES NOT WORK, that several people here who have used it with no success will let the results plainly known. I have no doubt that if it does not work and enough people complain ( especially if DLD uses it and it doesnt work for him) that [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] will end its associtation and DLD will be honest about the effectiveness or lack thereof. Dont you remember the ROP? Many people, myself included bought that from Supra consensually and found it to not be all it was cracked up to be. And we let it be known on these forums. many of us, friends of Supra included, let it be clearly known that we thought the ROP was not effective. And IIRC, those posts well allowed for all to see. Thats the beauty of market validation and word of mouth. Let it do its wonder on this device as well.
Now WHAT IF IT DOES WORK? Then its ALL GOOD. You GAIN DICK, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] MAKES MONEY,etc. What the fuck are you all bitching about? All negative and lazy thought.
If it doesnt work, get your fucking money back and let everyone know it sucks. Please. If you dont wanna buy it, dont fuckin buy it. But dont rain on anyone else who wants to buy it and at least see what it can do.They are big boys who can make their own decisions and they can get a refund if needed.
As far as other complaints like "it can cause numbness". Give me a fucking break. This is coming from guys who do things like clamp and twist their dicks until they turn purple and look like dying eggplants.
And as for "Wow man. It costs way too much. I would never pay $150 for my dick." Newsflash, Einstein. You already did. THERES NOT A SINGLE GUY HERE YOU HASNT ALREADY PUT OVER $150 into his dick ( Unless you just started a couple weeks ago or never put in any time). Some of us have literally put in $1000s. Whats your time worth? $150 is less than working 30 hours at a MINIMUM WAGE JOB. Hell, maybe some of you guys are worth less than minimum wage or zero, I dont know. But I can tell you my time is worth a lot more than that. If I put in hundreds of hours a year pulling my dick, thats worth a lot more than $150 in opportunity costs. Ask DLD how many hours hes spent over the last few years performing exercises, wirting material, making new techniques, helping others,etc. Yes hes gained quite a bit of size, but even with all his inches I guarantee you he has spent thousands of dollars per inch. Yet people complain about $150. IMO even if you got only half an inch or an inch for $150, that is well worth it. I mean some people spend thousands for surgery and get nothing or less, and some people put in undreds of hours of work and might get a measurable result. Hell, what if you spend $150 and gain 2"? What a bargain, and one that could be well worth finding out. And hey, what if it doesnt work and you get your money back? You spent close to $0 to get 0, and you didnt use much time since you can do other shit while wearing it( as claimed anyway). Either way you win.
I'd like to see some people get this for a few reasons. 1. I want [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] to make money and it will work two-fold. They will get more real members to take this deal as well as make money off the sale. And its all money back guaranteed. If you dont want to just give donations, this is a good way to contribute- An Exchange of Fair Value 2. I want to grow my dick. If this works-great. if not- more knowledge anyway.
I'd like to see some people try this ( mayb I will, not sure yet) and then have a REAL discussion on its effectiveness. And that doesnt mean trying something once or twice or not putting in any effort and then bitching it doesnt work ( though if its physcially harmfull thats naother thing, of course). To me If I could get anything close to an inch off this I consider it a bargain.
Alright.
Chris, these were genuine concerns and thoughts I had about the product you are trying to sell, you did not answer my questions. I'll repost it.
That noose attachment looks a bit painful. Can that cause nerve damage?
This device looks safer to me http://www.penis-stretcher.co.uk/
and cheaper for non members at 169 dollars including worldwide postage.
The regular price of 299 dollars seems very high.
This was an unsatisfactory response from you.
"No our product has been put thru the ringers and has been out since 96'. There are other mock products out there that do cause damange due to items such as the basil ring not being connected and stuff like that."
Are you saying the product in the link I provided is "mock"? I think they look similar except your noose attachment looks inferior and less comfortable.
How long do you wear yours for each day? How much have you gained?
That noose attachment looks a bit painful. Can that cause nerve damage?
This device looks safer to me http://www.penis-stretcher.co.uk/
and cheaper for non members at 169 dollars including worldwide postage.
The regular price of 299 dollars seems very high.
This was an unsatisfactory response from you.
"No our product has been put thru the ringers and has been out since 96'. There are other mock products out there that do cause damange due to items such as the basil ring not being connected and stuff like that."
Are you saying the product in the link I provided is "mock"? I think they look similar except your noose attachment looks inferior and less comfortable.
How long do you wear yours for each day? How much have you gained?
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You definitely are. The only problem I have is with him saying stuff he can't back up. Maybe he could tell us he'll look into it, to try to find answers to our questions. But if he can't come up with a reason that his is superior to others, just don't say it! The price is better than other stretchers anyway, and that would be the attraction for this product. Basically all the guys here know that an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] is an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]. There isn't much difference at all, and certainly not enough to make the Vimax far superior to any other [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], so the real selling point for this stretcher should be, "hey! we get this for cheaper than we can get any other [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] on the market!" I think if any guy on this site is going to buy an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], he would buy the Vimax, not because it is so much better than others (which is highly doubtful) but because it is a more affordable option.
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ChrisViMax said:Thnx dash for stating what I have been trying to - Sometimes I dont have the right woreds to say
I *think* it can can accomidate up to 10 inch BUT some of our staff IS 10 inches and they are using the product.
I'm sure that similar to the knockoffs, you can buy extra rods to take the stretch further....correct?
Yes you can.stillwantmore said:
As for the question about numbness - it has been answered in this thread many times over. If you where not happy with my answer - well sorry then
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For my benefit and I guess the other guys who may be around my size....how do you order extra rods?
Please everybody - tell me the difference between this product:
http://www.jes-extender.dk/
and the Vimax [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words]:
http://www.vimaxextender.com/
They are exactly the same - identical.
I paid more than 450$ for my [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words] and I must say this to all you out there who plans on buying the Vimax - YOU CANNOT WEAR THIS FOR MORE THAN 1 HOUR, then you have to unmount it and take a break.
If you wear it longer, you could seriously harm your penis - I'm deadly serious here. I can't understand why Vimax-Chris isn't totally honest about this. This makes him stand out as a salesmen telling u what we would like to hear instead of being honest and telling us what the real situation is.
I think it's great that DLD offers the Vimax to his members with a discount, but he must understand that us guys in here are not exactly Penis Enlargement novices.
We demand a serious and proper debate in here, and VimaxChris does not sound like he knows exactly how serious and knowledgeable we are in here, when it comes to Penis Enlargement devices and the way they work.
For a person to wear the VimaxExtender (or should I say the [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]) all day long, he would have to take breaks every hour - and unmount the device every time to regain normal blood flow to the penis. I've tried walking with the [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] mounted several times and it falls of when you bow or make a sudden movement in the wrong direction.
It also is impossible to wear it underneath tight jeans or normal pants.
I wore it under my baggy jogging pants and it still fell off when bowing so I decided only to use it when I'm at home, sitting in front of the TV and PC. It is possible to walk around with the device mounted, but if you have a dick of a certain size, not only would it be a problem keeping the device mounted underneath pants but it would also be a problem hiding your penis and the device from your surroundings - it was impossible for me.
I was taking out the garbage and wore the [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] underneath my big baggy jogging pants and I met my neighbor and she immediately looked down and saw the bulge in my pants and looked up again with a kind of confused look :s
This was a funny situation, but imagine if it were your boss or colleague you met :O
You also should know that it can be very painful to unmount the device after an hour of use.
The silicone tube that keeps the penis head locked inside the device will dig down in to the skin of your penis and this can be quite painful when you loosen this silicone strap - I'm only warning you here.
I've learned to live with it - I use my [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words] 2-3 times a day.
http://www.jes-extender.dk/
and the Vimax [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words]:
http://www.vimaxextender.com/
They are exactly the same - identical.
I paid more than 450$ for my [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words] and I must say this to all you out there who plans on buying the Vimax - YOU CANNOT WEAR THIS FOR MORE THAN 1 HOUR, then you have to unmount it and take a break.
If you wear it longer, you could seriously harm your penis - I'm deadly serious here. I can't understand why Vimax-Chris isn't totally honest about this. This makes him stand out as a salesmen telling u what we would like to hear instead of being honest and telling us what the real situation is.
I think it's great that DLD offers the Vimax to his members with a discount, but he must understand that us guys in here are not exactly Penis Enlargement novices.
We demand a serious and proper debate in here, and VimaxChris does not sound like he knows exactly how serious and knowledgeable we are in here, when it comes to Penis Enlargement devices and the way they work.
For a person to wear the VimaxExtender (or should I say the [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]) all day long, he would have to take breaks every hour - and unmount the device every time to regain normal blood flow to the penis. I've tried walking with the [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] mounted several times and it falls of when you bow or make a sudden movement in the wrong direction.
It also is impossible to wear it underneath tight jeans or normal pants.
I wore it under my baggy jogging pants and it still fell off when bowing so I decided only to use it when I'm at home, sitting in front of the TV and PC. It is possible to walk around with the device mounted, but if you have a dick of a certain size, not only would it be a problem keeping the device mounted underneath pants but it would also be a problem hiding your penis and the device from your surroundings - it was impossible for me.
I was taking out the garbage and wore the [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] underneath my big baggy jogging pants and I met my neighbor and she immediately looked down and saw the bulge in my pants and looked up again with a kind of confused look :s
This was a funny situation, but imagine if it were your boss or colleague you met :O
You also should know that it can be very painful to unmount the device after an hour of use.
The silicone tube that keeps the penis head locked inside the device will dig down in to the skin of your penis and this can be quite painful when you loosen this silicone strap - I'm only warning you here.
I've learned to live with it - I use my [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words] 2-3 times a day.
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Im having a hard time believing this. Common market strategy for sure. How many on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] has reached 10 inches? And how many people do they have in staff? Find this highly unlikely.
When someone says something as unlikely as this, it tends to make me go in the opposite direction, meaning less chance of me buying it.
What would help though, is if respectable people on the forum here posted they are getting good results. In this case though, Im considering leaving the mods out of it, seeing as it benefits them to a degree. If someone has an incentive in something, it automatically makes them suspicious to a certain degree
hey i have a suggestion. How bout after you order the vimax [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and start using it Wrap your penis on the part where the noose is being tightened up. Maybe it will relieve the pinching tension from the noose and possiibbly decrease the numb effect because of the padding.
Man, I see it as two things need to be done. One people need to try it out (and of course it is at their own risk) so that we can have some kind of feedback from people we interact with and are familiar with here on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. It's a community and we should think about what comes into it and what information needs to be divulged in order to make Penis Enlargement ever safer. The trials and such we go through are to make progress in the understanding of our efforts, but that's not to say we can't ask questions. We need someone that can answer those questions about the validity of this particular product's safety and that should include those who buy it from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. We've heard Dr. Ralph's informative posts and and a few other takes on it, but I think what with DLD purchasing one and trying it out along with myself and others answers will come soon enough(hopefully). That said I would like to think with this kind of advantage price wise that we have being a member at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] the risk as long as you are careful and go slow initially shouldn't be that high. But then again I've never obsessed over a workout to the point where my dick was going to explode all in the name of making a gain of some kind. Come close to that threshold a few times, but never reached it. Still, in fairness we all have our concerns and questions and rightly so in the name of health when it comes to a product we wish to purchase, but the dialogue about this product should not die. (not that anyone was suggesting that) We want answers that's all. Some will buy it, some won't. Either way I hope to see lots of feedback from ViMax, DLD, and the rest of us.
Im not a mod( hoping ...one day) but how the hell do the mods have any benefits from this? They dont recieve any money. The only people i believe that deal with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Mos[/words]'s financial business are DLD and JAZ. The money they get from Vimax's affiliate program goes to the effort of keeping this forum up. People like Stillwantmore, redzulu, kausion, etc(all the mods) dont recieve any incentive. They are here to help you not get money.The only people that benefit are us. You are getting Essentially FREE information and support 24/7. Donation and affiliate Money to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] = this site staying up and us ....its members ....getting the constant devotion of DLD. Even if say a little of the money does go to DLD...just say... does he not deserve it... Helping us 24/7 and being here all day. He does and for that i respect the man and his efforts here.
I have just noticed something a bit worrying. If you look at the clinical studies that have been done on the [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]Jes[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words] and the Vimax respectively, you may notice that they are the same studies. Well more or less. I say more or less because in the Vimax version of the study the measurements of the length gained have been changed from cm's to inch's. Take a look, http://www.jes-extender.dk/templates/jes-extender.asp?catalog_id=255 . If you scroll down you will see 2,8cm's gain which correlates to 1,9cm's flacid gain. Now if you look on th Vimax site: http://www.vimaxextender.com/clinic-results.html . Scroll down and you will see almost the same study. The amount of participants is the same, the ages are the same, the length of time and pressure applied are the same. The only difference is the change in results from cm's to inch's. Vimax claims 2,8 inch's. Ok, for me this makes these apparent clinical studies a bit dubious. When I combine this with the knowledge that the doctor that approves this product is wanted by the police it starts to lose its appeal. My penis is too precious to me to dare to try out something so unpredictable. Still I don't think that it changes the fact that this is the best [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] device on the market and at the best price. I just don't think that I am comfortable with the concept. Chris could you shed some light on this?