PGE-1 Injection Progress Thread

[sikdogg]

This is going to sound stupid, but... can someone explain the purpose of the injections? Sounds like it forces an erection. How does that help with Penis Enlargement?

Do a search on chemical Penis Enlargement to get a background on this....

 

[badapiou252]

They want a chemically induced priaprism to mimic the effects of sickle-cell megalophallus. That means they want to have a semi for a few hours at a time to force the tunica to stretch and increase the size of the penis over time. That's my understanding at least.

That's quite interesting, because I've grown up being a chronic masturbator, as in I've had jerking off sessions lasting 1-2 hours (where I'm fully erect) since being a teen. I wonder if that has anything to do with my natural size (8x6.5).

 

[spinner2]

I'm about to order some more PGE-1, and reconstitute. My response time has continued to decline over the last month, and it's made it impossible to follow the protocol. It was just under 4 weeks after reconstitution for the response to begin declining. Hopefully I can reconstitute once every 4 weeks and fix this issue. The pain and soreness with injection have gone away completely, which supports the idea of degradation. Worst case scenario is that my body has developed a tolerance, but that seems unlikely.

The one positive note over the last month is that I have injections completely figured out.

 

[spinner2]

After some searches I've found that no tolerance to the drug developed in the studies done. I've ordered some more PGE-1 and bacteriostatic water, so I'll reconstitute in a few days and see what happens.

 

[spinner2]

I've done a lot more reading and I have a few more upddates on this. I've found that the shelf life of caverject is 2-3 weeks after reconstitution per independent studies (stored in a fridge with bacteriostatic water). This coincides with my experiences, so I believe it fully. Unfortunately this means I'll need to reconstitute quite often, and it won't be as cost effective. At the absolute cheapest prices this translates to $30-35 every 3+ weeks, along with a complicated change in dose towards the end to account for the degradation (15% degradation is my guess based on everything I've read). On the positive side this would mean my problems can be easily accounted for, and I'll be back on track with Chemical Penis Enlargement.

 

[sikdogg]

Spinner, PM me when you get a chance...

 

[djpatman]

hey guys where are you getting your pge 1 from-any help would be appreciated

 

[goldmember]

Were you able to find vials of 50mcg (about a two week supply if injected EOD)?

 

[spinner2]

Yes, I have everything together now. I'll post an update once I begin injections again.

 

[spinner2]

Just reconstituted and injected 5mcg. Seems to have done the trick. I'll post back later on how long effects last.

 

[spinner2]

2+ hours and I'm still at 50%. Looks like 6.25 is still the correct dose. I'll give that a shot tomorrow and report back.

 

[djpatman]

hey spin'
are you ordering from chem life.....
any info would help----thanks

 

[spinner2]

Shot 6.25mcg and response is still weaker than I'd like. Moving to 7.5 next time.

 

[spinner2]

I'm developing a curve to the left whenever I have a semi. This has me somewhat worried since Peyronie's is an issue with injections. I'm taking POTABA and DMSO which should be good precautionary measures, but does anyone else have any advice for preventing Peyronie's?

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

I'm developing a curve to the left whenever I have a semi. This has me somewhat worried since Peyronie's is an issue with injections. I'm taking POTABA and DMSO which should be good precautionary measures, but does anyone else have any advice for preventing Peyronie's?

light stretching and light [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] seems to help.

 

[sikdogg]

Is it curving to the side that you are injecting??

 

[spinner2]

I injected on the right, and it was curving to the left, so that definitely accounted for some of it, but not all of it. I don't have any curve when erect, so it's not a big issue yet.

I agree that an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] would go a long way towards preventing Peyronie's. I already have plans to get a static stretcher fairly soon. Anyone else having anything that might help out?

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

I injected on the right, and it was curving to the left, so that definitely accounted for some of it, but not all of it. I don't have any curve when erect, so it's not a big issue yet.

I agree that an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] would go a long way towards preventing Peyronie's. I already have plans to get a static stretcher fairly soon. Anyone else having anything that might help out?

whenever I inject to the right side I get that mild curve when semi as well. This is perfectly logical as the artery in that CC is probably more dilated due to the higher local concentration of PGE1. Peyronie's disease is when you have a curve when fully erect, so I wouldn't worry in your case. ADSing would definitely help anyway.

 

[spinner2]

I've definitely got some cause for concern. I've got a slight indentation on the left, where I've been injecting the most frequently. That spot is also where most of the bend was. When I'm 100% the indentation goes away, but when I'm only 70% it's pretty noticeable. I definitely don't want to inject there until all of this gets cleared up.

The thing is, I may have had some slight indentation there before, that has become more exaggerated. I have turkey neck right below it, so the skin makes the girth seem to flare out some right there.

I think I'm going to apply DMSO liberally, be more consistent with POTABA, and move my injections a little bit down.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

ok that's a different story then. It's likely that you have some fibrosis in that particular site due to the injections. DMSO wont penetrate deep enough to have any effect on the Tunica, and Potaba is very ineffective as well (not to mention the inconvenience due to high doses). I would just supplement with 1200 I.U. of vitamin E, twice daily.

 

[sikdogg]

You shouldn't inject in just one area... you should inject along the sides of the shaft from the base up about half way up the shaft. The more spread out your injections are the less likely for fibrosis to set in.

 

[spinner2]

Yeah, I know. My suspensory lig is super wide at the base which makes it very difficult. I'll give it a try in an hour and see how it goes.

 

[Vaseline_Knight]

Yeah, I know. My suspensory lig is super wide at the base which makes it very difficult. I'll give it a try in an hour and see how it goes.

ya i have that problem as well.. most of the time I inject near the base, I 'miss', so I try to inject more up the shaft. my lig is verryyy wide at the base.

 

[spinner2]

ya i have that problem as well.. most of the time I inject near the base, I 'miss', so I try to inject more up the shaft. my lig is verryyy wide at the base.

It sucks injecting at the base, but there's no way in hell I'm gonna inject near the indentation on the left side before it clears up. I did just inject the base successfully. I found it helped to get a little more fluffed before injection, and I had to vary the depth a little bit to find the sweet spot once the needle was inside.

I don't think the fibrosis I have is very serious. The indentation isn't noticeable unless you're looking for it, and the bend when erect is maybe 5 degrees at the most. I've had much more serious asymmetry caused by NPenis Enlargement that cleared up over time. I can't feel any scar tissue with my hand either, so it could even be asymmetrical growth. To ensure proper healing I'm going to use Vitamin E, Potaba, DMSO, massage for scar tissue, light jelqing , and maybe acetyl l-carnatine. If it's not cleared up in a month I'll be surprised.

 

[sikdogg]

Hey bro, just wondering how you're doing??

 

[spinner2]

Hey bro, just wondering how you're doing??

Everything has been smooth the last 2 weeks. I'll probably throw some measurements up in a month or so. I know I've gained at least a little so far, but nothing crazy.

 

[goldmember]

Were you using only PGE-1, or did you include any other drugs? What was the frequency and duration of the erections?

 

[spinner2]

Were you using only PGE-1, or did you include any other drugs? What was the frequency and duration of the erections?

Using PGE-1 along with low dose POTABA. I have 1g POTABA twice daily on injection days, just to make sure fibrosis doesn't set in. The half life of POTABA is very short, so this probably doesn't do much for collagen remodelling. Erection duration I've been aiming at 2-3 hours. It's gone down to just under 2 hours lately, but I checked the dates and it's time to reconstitute again. I usually edge a VERY small amount to make sure I stay at 100%.

This schedule isn't the most effective, but it's the only one that fits into my schedule right now.

 

[goldmember]

And how frequent do you inject? EOD?

Using PGE-1 along with low dose POTABA. I have 1g POTABA twice daily on injection days, just to make sure fibrosis doesn't set in. The half life of POTABA is very short, so this probably doesn't do much for collagen remodelling. Erection duration I've been aiming at 2-3 hours. It's gone down to just under 2 hours lately, but I checked the dates and it's time to reconstitute again. I usually edge a VERY small amount to make sure I stay at 100%.

This schedule isn't the most effective, but it's the only one that fits into my schedule right now.

 

[spinner2]

And how frequent do you inject? EOD?

I shoot for every other day. I always inject at least 3 times a week.

 

[cyberstud25]

Any final results bro? trying to find silkdogs also , but it seems no one gave any updates after a few months.

 

[REDZULU2003]

Try the cream from this thread http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37612

That should help if you get this soreness again.

Same ingredient, alprostadil which is a synthetic version of the naturally occuring prostaglandin E1 or PGE1 for short.

 

[Avengere]

Is there some alprostadil cream version available?