ok thanks alot. That sounds like some pretty good advice there. im gonna have to mod my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] for a hand pump or buy a air pump :) and I also tried 3 sets of 100 erection in [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] really good expansion. Then I put a tight cockring on and edge for 10 mins for at least 3 more set it pushes the expansion even further and I think it expands the penis in a different way inner pressure(clamping). where pumping is a outer pressure I believe.
 
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I'm just not getting the pumping explanation. I have used air pumps for water pumping and have the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penomet[/words] but I just don't understand how to pump all the water out and be in an air state. I'm an experienced pumper and I'm lost here. Maybe because I have never used or seen a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]...do they work differently than the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Penomet[/words]? Where and how does the hand pump come into play?

Neutronstar, from what you understood from the urologist is that air pumping is more effective than water pumping but we need to pump with more vaccum?? How much is more?? Is it best just to use a regular air pump and cylinder and forget about the water pumping?

...good thread!!
 
MOSman20;564921 said:
Are you uncut? Can you explain how you are doing it?

First, little about me. I am Hi_I_AM_nEW19 and Penis Enlargement is part of my life. In last few years i was focused only on lenght. I started with 6.7", now i am about 8.3", maybe more bpel. I am uncut...I was doing DLD [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] but i i do the strething routine with stretching 2-3 inches above the base...i have gain more then 1 inch in lenght in maybe 2 months of Penis Enlargement.Wonderful...after that i was using [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] 8 hours, maybe more on daily basic...This kind of stretching will promote gain that's for sure...I know that i stretch really hard and nice. "You can't gain if you don't feel the exercise" was from that period. Now i am doing only girth....I don't have final goal...Sky is the limit...9 lenght, 7 girth is fine...I notice that nutrition and food plays a lot. Smoking and anti-depressive pills are Penis Enlargement killers. Body exercises are big plus in this game. Mental,positive affirmations can bring positive effect on Penis Enlargement. Rest is important.No rest,no gain. Watch the EQ like a sign of overdoing.If the penis is tired, it's not good idea to train. Read a lot. Do whatever feels right to you.If you gain from one routine, don't change it...don't go for more intensity, until you hit plateau.Thx.
 
Im 6.5 girth at the base I fill up the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] to fast and its not comfy so I had to get the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words]. you just pump till you can't anymore than you point it downward and pump more water till you can't anymore is this correct. Because this is what I did and it works to get a few extra pumps. tell me if im wrong thanks :)
 
Shenlong;565032 said:
It has long been known that longer men tend to gain slower from standard manual stretches because the force applied is split across a longer shaft. Further more, I believe DLD himself wrote an in-depth post on how pulling from the base not only helps to pull out the inner penis but will also stretch it more, since the force is split across less length. The problem is, in this case, that you are only stretching the inner penis.
So, why not stretch a small amount of the shaft and get the best of both worlds? That would seem to be the idea here. It's nothing new, just an interesting application of previously known theory.
yes Im aware of that im 6.4 inchs long and I would like to stretch my inner penis out as much as I can first because I want to get more girth at the base that should come with the inner base.Im currently at least 6.5 girth at the base but my long term goal is 7.5 possibly maybe even 8 if 7.5 girth isn't enough :) and 7.5-8 length so I need all the girth I can get(call me obsessed lol but thats what I want.) So when I stop gaining length and girth from inner penis stretches I will jump to other different stretches and the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] when I get to buy one from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] to help support this awesome site.
 
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GirthGains;565076 said:
yes Im aware of that im 6.4 inchs long and I would like to stretch my inner penis out as much as I can first because I want to get more girth at the base that should come with the inner base.Im currently at least 6.5 girth at the base but my long term goal is 7.5 possibly 8 if 7.5 girth and 7.5-8 length isn't enough so I need all the girth I can get(call me obsessed lol but thats what I want.) So when I stop gaining length and girth from inner penis stretches I will jump to other different stretches and the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] when I get to buy one from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] to help support this awesome site.


This is crazy mate! You want 8 inches of girth? Do you hate on girls that much!?! rofl
 
hah no my women had 2 kids and she can take 7 girth already I tried it clamped so if she likes 7.5 girth then Ill stay there lol
 
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This is pretty much what I have been telling people on here.
jelqing is more of a stretching exercise and should be used when you have
a length based routine, and the thing about manual stretching I find to be true, if you want length their no getting around it, you have to put in a significant amount of time (exercise) if you wish to see good gains.
 
how do all of you grip two inches from the base without losing your grip as the skin begins to slide a bit? can't really get a significant stretch because of this
 
If your skin slides up, leave the skin up there using your other hand and then re-grip just below.

My only issue with stretching closer to the base is it seems like it would lead to turkey neck, as it stretches skin around the base/scrotum and nothing on the shaft.

Neutronstar, if you speak with this eurologist again, you should talk to him about "turkey neck" and if there's a way to prevent/cure it without surgery.
 
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Neutronstar;565069 said:
New [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] extreme can make that happen. well i still fancy water pump just to be safe but with an extreme one i used for 2 days in raw with air and expantion was 40% bigger than water.

So you are just using the extreme but without water in the chamber? Is this correct?
 
AndroidR;565101 said:
If your skin slides up, leave the skin up there using your other hand and then re-grip just below.

My only issue with stretching closer to the base is it seems like it would lead to turkey neck, as it stretches skin around the base/scrotum and nothing on the shaft.

Neutronstar, if you speak with this eurologist again, you should talk to him about "turkey neck" and if there's a way to prevent/cure it without surgery.

Yes I would also know if there are any good solutions to the turkey neck like when pumping and stretching as I wouldn't really want a freaky looking turkey neck lol
 
Neutronstar;565136 said:
i use water but when i pump hard i keep my extreme downwards so the head face down and 60% of the water just go out after i pump and the rest of it i suckit out with an hand pump which came with extreme when i gotit.
Ahhhhh, ok, now its making sense to me. Thanks Neutronstar.
 
hey pornstar's urologist. If you are reading this thread, get yourself a username like 10inchPlateau and share your advices.

Highlights :
There are 3 category of gainers
BTC must be right or left, not center.
mini quick jelqs before sex (30% to 100% EQ in 2 minutes waranty ?)

Random thoughts :
Goddamn people are having so much trouble getting a base grip!
Did he mentionned erect jelq or not ?
That guy might have 90% ED issues in his regular job. He seamed really happy to have someone jelqing a functionnal pen
 
Hey, don't be hard on the guy! I understood everything from his post except for the "Highlights"part. Everyone is free to post, even the ones that do not speak English very fluently. Be nice guys, be supportive! :)
 
I just found it ironic that he's telling someone to go to school if they don't understand English. That's not English. You want us to be supportive when someone comes in here and tells us that we are basically doing everything wrong. If so, then I'm sorry.
 
All I can say is WOW!

For the past year I've been stretching my penis .5-1" from the glands and not once did I ever think about stretching 2" from base. Needless to say, I just tried this routine that "Neutronstar" mentioned from his doc and the fatigue in the inner/PC area was phenomenal!

Thank you so much for sharing this, as I will add this to my stretch routine :)
PS: Did you ask the doc about DLD Blasters and the effects that reverse kegling has?

Slay
 
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Neutronstar;565410 said:
i just responded to he's ironic questions and nothing more.
I deserved this reply. There were no clever idea in my previous post. Just a sick joke. No offenses.

I am amazed how you shared freely such valuable and personnal information about your visit with an health professionnal.
I did tried mini quick jelqs alone and before getting into [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words].
It is easier at 30% EQ to keep the shaft straight with the hand that is not milking.
Can't wait to try this before sex !
 
Neutronstar;565418 said:
3: i dont know about your sex life experience and i am not saying u are worse in bed (don't misunderstand me) but if u dont know about screw motion please do it and your woman will scream very hard. (this motion make her believe that your dick is very thick in girth and she cant take it.

Also try left right up down (up left right down) mix them together and u will see some crazy screaming.

One more advice i got for u if u like to hear it. Is not shame to watch adult entertainment to learn about things..... try and use some of (Evans Stone) Techniques - and your woman will beg u for more again next day and 4ever. Trust me this guys is fuckin unbelievable. Maybe there are some another pornstars which are the best on techniques but Evan Stone is the TopGun of all :).


So you rad about Mr. Stone's techniques and that made you a better lover? I am very interested in improving my bed skills. Would highly appreciate if you recommend some shit- as much as you can, I'll read the whole thing :)

Also, a very stupid question you might think this is, but it is about the near the base stretches. I am uncircumcised and have a lot more foreskin than a lot of guys. Every time I do a stretch (whether it be below the glans or near the base) I feel this "burning" skin stretching instead of lig stretching and see my skin get quite pulled and stretched when I do it. How would you advise me to do it? I know that it is not something everyone knows the answer of, but I just gotta ask.. :)

P.S- thanks for sharing all of this with us, you are helping the whole community with this thread. :)
 
Neutronstar;565430 said:
Look. Mate Evan stone technique are not for a good lover or romance lol they make u animal fucker . To be a good lover u need to know how to treat your lady to tease her make some kind of connection between your body languages. Evan stone techniques some how are more to be aggressive in bed ( in good way ) and I got to tell u some off he's technique are crazy .

I am looking forward to improving as a lover. Is there any read/video you could recommend to me? Do you find this guys teachings goo, are they worth checking out? :)
 
xelabou;565415 said:
I deserved this reply. There were no clever idea in my previous post. Just a sick joke. No offenses.

I am amazed how you shared freely such valuable and personnal information about your visit with an health professionnal.
I did tried mini quick jelqs alone and before getting into [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words].
It is easier at 30% EQ to keep the shaft straight with the hand that is not milking.
Can't wait to try this before sex !

Please tell me about your experiences with fast mini jelq. If anyone succeded I'd be very grateful if someone could upload a video. Despite all descriptions by Neutron I don't get the technique right. Every time I try to do it porperly I naturally slow down, thus it becomes a slow mini jelq. If I do it fast, the movement seems absolutely inefficient.
 
Satyr;565524 said:
Please tell me about your experiences with fast mini jelq. If anyone succeded I'd be very grateful if someone could upload a video. Despite all descriptions by Neutron I don't get the technique right. Every time I try to do it porperly I naturally slow down, thus it becomes a slow mini jelq. If I do it fast, the movement seems absolutely inefficient.

I think that Neutron should make a vid where he demostrates the exercise and the post session expansion. That way we will not only see what visible expansion it brings, but how to perform it as well.
 
That'd be very helpful, but despite my repeatedly uttered request for a video, Neutron hasn't uploaded one nor did he hinted in any way that he would do it. I don't know if he's uncomfortable with the thought of putting a clip online, but pitifully there was no sign of willingness to fulfill my request.
 
This all seems somewhat "esoteric" to me. Like I don't write things off but I'm always somewhat suspicious of new bold claims. It would be nice to know what the urologist gained from his methods or anyone else for that matter. It is just interesting to hear about a mysterious urologist that disagrees with a number of the practices here; however, unlike Red, DLD Kingsnake etc. we don't know who this guy is and we haven't seen his resume (his cock) to back up his claims. So I'm reserved when it comes to all this, curious but not overly excited.
 
does he disagree with a considerable number of insights the vets around here promoted? idk, but the advice to go on with whatever works, does make his claims not so much of an bold pretension, but a good-natured advice to me. I'm not so convinced by the numbers purported, since there seem to be a lot more guys than only about 4% of the Penis Enlargement population who gain from other exercises than Pumping and base grip stretches (me included). Also I don't grasp the philosophy, i.e. the theoretical substance which is supposed to back up the fast mini jelqs. would be interesting to have something to read from him personally on that topic, because the mediation of such info by third parties always shortens and alters its original propositional content, especially if there are non-native speakers involved (no offense, Neutron).
 
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Satyr;565530 said:
does he disagree with a considerable number of insights the vets around here promoted? idk, but the advice to go on with whatever works, does make his claims not so much of an bold pretension, but a good-natured advice to me. I'm not so convinced by the numbers purported, since there seem to be a lot more guys than only about 4% of the Penis Enlargement population who gain from other exercises than Pumping and base grip stretches (me included). Also I don't grasp the philosophy, i.e. the theoretical substance which is supposed to back up the fast mini jelqs. would be interesting to have something to read from him personally on that topic, because the mediation of such info by third parties always shortens and alters its original propositional content, especially if there are non-native speakers involved (no offense, Neutron).

I just said he disagrees with a number of things - not necessarily a high number but there is some disagreement such as air pumping being better than water pumping. I should have been more clear about that. I also have no idea what these fast jelqs are supposed to be. I tried them based off the instructions on here ... didn't give me any expansion even close to [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]hydropumping[/words]. So idk, just still reserved.
 
I think mini quick jelq are useful for stealth Penis Enlargement.
It restores the temp gains you had with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]batmate[/words] yesterday... within 2 minutes.

Regular jelq : half second pause when you "ok grab" between each rep
Quick jelq : tenth of a second pause !

The objective is to blood rush the cavernae without any blood escape.

Any newbie will think it's masturbation.

As for the sex tricks. I'm with a lady knowing kegels and having to work hard on it ?:(
I like to "grind move", but the left-right-up-down, didnt knew that.
 
i dont think that base grip lig stretch works. i have a tough time getting a consistent SIGNIFICANT stretch. ima just stick with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] eventhough i've been pe'ing for a while and dld blasters. do the rotary version of the dld blasters. i have a huge flaccid stretch after blasters.
 
This is an interesting read ...
If anyone should know Penis Enlargement, it should be an Urologist

What I gather with this thread is...
You can only stretch the skin, ligaments, and
You can't stretch the septum or the tunica.
The proper way to hold a stretch is close to the base to pull out the inner penis.

Then I wonder how Ronielle gain both length and girth with only ChemPenis Enlargement and jelqing.

I believe the Urologist knows what he is telling Neutronstar, but I not believe he was telling him the whole story. The Doctor basically said it himself, "all UROLOGIST knows how people can grow their penis but they are just lazy to share."
 
Neutronstar;564879 said:
also he said to stretch behind chek left and right with one minute each but not straght behind chek because he said is to dangerous u can kill your penis 4ever with that and is not better than any other stretches.
I can appreciate this advice. I have noticed that my EQ has improved, since stopping a straight downward stretch as part of my routine.
 
xelabou;565543 said:
I think mini quick jelq are useful for stealth Penis Enlargement.
It restores the temp gains you had with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]batmate[/words] yesterday... within 2 minutes.

Regular jelq : half second pause when you "ok grab" between each rep
Quick jelq : tenth of a second pause !

The objective is to blood rush the cavernae without any blood escape.

Any newbie will think it's masturbation.

As for the sex tricks. I'm with a lady knowing kegels and having to work hard on it ?:(
I like to "grind move", but the left-right-up-down, didnt knew that.

I got that, but they don't do anything for me. I wonder if there are some people around here who succeeded in doing them by following Neutron's explanation. Btw: I never paused during Jelqs. I always reiterated the motion with ma second hand before I loosened my grip of the other hand near the glans. So I'm not quite sure If we have the same idea of the jelq.
 
Satyr;565679 said:
I got that, but they don't do anything for me. I wonder if there are some people around here who succeeded in doing them by following Neutron's explanation. Btw: I never paused during Jelqs.

I have tried more than a few times to use the "mini jelq" technique, and it doesn't do anything for me either.
 
I dont have the extreme with hand pump so what can be done with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words] without hand pump to get the expansion you got or do the same exercise???? Have any ideals!!!! Good report and advice.
 
JohnnySisco;565691 said:
I have tried more than a few times to use the "mini jelq" technique, and it doesn't do anything for me either.


Same here. The stretch with fingers in the fatpad and a grip 2 inches from the base, however? Definitely saw a stretch going on there. I think that combined with regular stretching may be pretty useful.
 
TreasureHunter;565720 said:
Same here. The stretch with fingers in the fatpad and a grip 2 inches from the base, however? Definitely saw a stretch going on there. I think that combined with regular stretching may be pretty useful.
I've been doing this since the thread started with great success. I'm not sure why I never thought to reach into the fatpad when jelqing, but it works as a great supplement to complete package and other expressive stretches.
 
Every [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] video showing stretches shows this method!
 
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