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going4nine said:
A few questions: why injectable B12 over oral, and what's a preffered PDE5 inhibitor?
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Injectable B12 allows for better absorbtion and higher doses ie.1000mcg/mlx2ml 3x weekly=600mgs/wk which still can be acomplished with orals,but I find the injectable to be superior for energy,increased appetite,and better sleeps and excellent muscle pumps and girth expansion for Penis Enlargement.
Prefered PDE5 inhibitor..sorry Viagara(Sildenafil Citrate) is in the class of PDE5 inhibitors.Some prefer Cialis(Tadalafil)orLevitra(Vardenafil) which are also PDE5 inhibitors.
 
In response to the comments about NO2 (nitrous Oxide) I use this regularly for working out. It is a vasodilator, and it's use increases oxygen flow, and dilates the veins a little. My combintion of nutrients is as such: high quality multivitamin, NO2 2x a day, Selenium (antioxidant) once a day (also good for prostate health), Saw Palmetto daily, CE2 2x a day. Total health and balane is the name of the game! what good is a 9" penis if the rest of the body can't handle it?
 
In my opinion what made you gain was just the last step by itself and possibly doing it while fatigued... Dosen't have to do anything with oxygen starvation triggering genes or anything like that. Stacked clamps, extreme ulis, whatever you want to call it is the only girth exercise I do and I have gained onsiderably from them. I use a hose clamp at the base as well and then use 2 cable clamps along the shaft that creates as much internal pressure that you can physicaly handle. If you do this daily and shoot for constant internal tunacae fatigue you will see gains, theres really no tricks to it :) I don't mean to come off as rude, im sorry if I did. Your therys are very possible I just disagree.
 
bdj777 said:
In my opinion what made you gain was just the last step by itself and possibly doing it while fatigued... Dosen't have to do anything with oxygen starvation triggering genes or anything like that. Stacked clamps, extreme ulis, whatever you want to call it is the only girth exercise I do and I have gained onsiderably from them. I use a hose clamp at the base as well and then use 2 cable clamps along the shaft that creates as much internal pressure that you can physicaly handle. If you do this daily and shoot for constant internal tunacae fatigue you will see gains, theres really no tricks to it :) I don't mean to come off as rude, im sorry if I did. Your therys are very possible I just disagree.
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I disagree, I've been trying this for three days straight now. I've NEVER been able to clamp 3 days in a row especially for the intensity and duration I'm doing it for without severe fluid buildup, and extreme difficulty getting it up. I almost feel like I might be jinxing myself saying something this early, because its literally like magic to me. I think this is much like Bib's pressure over time theory, and the ASPIRIN is what is making it possible. You see gains by other means because for whatever reason you gain girth much easier than I and probably Dozer do since he mentioned being a very hard gainer. I think we just have to be in the clamp constantly in order to see gains from it, but something wasn't allowing that to happen before maybe our tunicae are perhaps too elastic? Or maybe our blood is simply too thick. Whatever it is trust me, I've tried everything you've mentioned including the stacked clamps, and it just put my penis in a state of trying to survive instead of grow. Even though I saw great expansion in my workouts, it would turn to fluid within 10 minutes after the session, and gains would be non-existent. I was literally looking for the wasps to sting my dick with! Anyway, Dozer is a genius, and I'm very confident that soon I, and my girlfriend if she knew why, will be thanking Dozer even more for thinking outside the box. You just remember that what works for many, just doesn't work for all....ASPIRIN man whodathunkit.
 
bdj777 said:
In my opinion what made you gain was just the last step by itself and possibly doing it while fatigued... Dosen't have to do anything with oxygen starvation triggering genes or anything like that. Stacked clamps, extreme ulis, whatever you want to call it is the only girth exercise I do and I have gained onsiderably from them. I use a hose clamp at the base as well and then use 2 cable clamps along the shaft that creates as much internal pressure that you can physicaly handle. If you do this daily and shoot for constant internal tunacae fatigue you will see gains, theres really no tricks to it :) I don't mean to come off as rude, im sorry if I did. Your therys are very possible I just disagree.
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All I can say is: LOOK OUT FOR MY REPORT. I am spot on :), according to the scientific evidence (not all penis-specific though, but compelling). I think I have found a reason for why clamping works.

Also, by all means everyone tell your science buddies to come on here and critique it once I post it - such is the nature of science. We only get better and better theories that way.

D0zer
 
Dozer:

Just a couple of questions...

1). During your 1-hour session, do you perform any kind of squeezes, etc...

2). At the end of the hour session, right before you go into the "3-minute extra tight clamp down", do you take a break, or go straight to it? (I know you said you take a 2 hour break before your "5-minute clamp down," but I'm talking about the 3-minute clamp, immediately after the 1-hour session).

Thanks,

T-9
 
bIgjOe said:
I disagree, I've been trying this for three days straight now. I've NEVER been able to clamp 3 days in a row especially for the intensity and duration I'm doing it for without severe fluid buildup, and extreme difficulty getting it up. I almost feel like I might be jinxing myself saying something this early, because its literally like magic to me. I think this is much like Bib's pressure over time theory, and the ASPIRIN is what is making it possible. You see gains by other means because for whatever reason you gain girth much easier than I and probably Dozer do since he mentioned being a very hard gainer. I think we just have to be in the clamp constantly in order to see gains from it, but something wasn't allowing that to happen before maybe our tunicae are perhaps too elastic? Or maybe our blood is simply too thick. Whatever it is trust me, I've tried everything you've mentioned including the stacked clamps, and it just put my penis in a state of trying to survive instead of grow. Even though I saw great expansion in my workouts, it would turn to fluid within 10 minutes after the session, and gains would be non-existent. I was literally looking for the wasps to sting my dick with! Anyway, Dozer is a genius, and I'm very confident that soon I, and my girlfriend if she knew why, will be thanking Dozer even more for thinking outside the box. You just remember that what works for many, just doesn't work for all....ASPIRIN man whodathunkit.
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He wasn't questioning the efficacy of aspirin. He simply said that this theory is overly complex...nothing to do with aspirin.
 
Hey Dozer, at the end of the 14 days did you take a break before measuring, or are you still clamping everyday since you started? If so how long? I'm on day 5 by the way, and doing great!
 
well.. i think i might have overdone my clamping even with the asprin i got some kind of pain in a vein or somthin. I dont know if its a thrombosed though because it doenst stick out to far. It is sorta firm. I'm still gonna do my clamping. If the pain gets worse I guess Ill have to stop but otherwise It's not to painful to where I can't take it..Also I think its because I was using a hose clamp. Now im using cable clamps and it seems to be alot more gentler on my dorsal veins (where the pain is) than the metal hose clamp I was using for the first five days.. I need girth though so Im not gonna stop just because I might have a thrombosed or somthin else...
 
That's exactly how a starting T-vein feels. Kinda cord like. You've been warned, if you want to go ahead and fuck yourself up it's your choice.
 
hoffy200 said:
well.. i think i might have overdone my clamping even with the asprin i got some kind of pain in a vein or somthin. I dont know if its a thrombosed though because it doenst stick out to far. It is sorta firm. I'm still gonna do my clamping. If the pain gets worse I guess Ill have to stop but otherwise It's not to painful to where I can't take it..Also I think its because I was using a hose clamp. Now im using cable clamps and it seems to be alot more gentler on my dorsal veins (where the pain is) than the metal hose clamp I was using for the first five days.. I need girth though so Im not gonna stop just because I might have a thrombosed or somthin else...
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There is a recipe for t-vein treatment on this site. I don't remember who posted it, I think it was 'Millionman'. I is made of olive oil, rosemary, lemongrass, clary sage, and some other ingredient(s). Check it out and USE it!
 
The single dumbest thing that you can do to your cock (other than this) is to try and work through a vein injury. Not only will your actions lead to bouts of excruciating pain, but you're also sure to find yourself over an operating table in no time. You think I'm joking? This is very serious business, whether you're aware of that fact or not. You've been warned. (Again). Don't do it, dude. Don't do it.
hoffy200 said:
well.. i think i might have overdone my clamping even with the asprin i got some kind of pain in a vein or somthin. I dont know if its a thrombosed though because it doenst stick out to far. It is sorta firm. I'm still gonna do my clamping. If the pain gets worse I guess Ill have to stop but otherwise It's not to painful to where I can't take it..Also I think its because I was using a hose clamp. Now im using cable clamps and it seems to be alot more gentler on my dorsal veins (where the pain is) than the metal hose clamp I was using for the first five days.. I need girth though so Im not gonna stop just because I might have a thrombosed or somthin else...
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I dont understand why though?everyone says, don't do it, but what are some cases of people trying work through a thrombosed vein? they have pains when they get an erection or what? why would someone need to be on an operating table?
 
A recurring T-vein retired me from Penis Enlargement about 2 1/2 years ago. I didn't even tried to work through it, I just restarted Penis Enlargement too soon, when I thought I was totally healed. I should have waited at least a month more.

But this is not what you want to hear, you are obviously not the kind of person that could learn and prevent. You need this injury to understand.

About your questions, I had some pain when I tried to have sex and every time I tried to Penis Enlargement. That is where you will be soon. I would say about a month more after you THINK it is totally healed will be the real healing time.

Now let's stop hijacking this thread, every single guy who knows about this will tell you the same: don't do it. If you want to argue about it start your own thread, this is a great thread so far and the last thing it needs is some guy talking about his future injuries.
 
bIgjOe said:
I disagree, I've been trying this for three days straight now. I've NEVER been able to clamp 3 days in a row especially for the intensity and duration I'm doing it for without severe fluid buildup, and extreme difficulty getting it up. I almost feel like I might be jinxing myself saying something this early, because its literally like magic to me. I think this is much like Bib's pressure over time theory, and the ASPIRIN is what is making it possible. You see gains by other means because for whatever reason you gain girth much easier than I and probably Dozer do since he mentioned being a very hard gainer. I think we just have to be in the clamp constantly in order to see gains from it, but something wasn't allowing that to happen before maybe our tunicae are perhaps too elastic? Or maybe our blood is simply too thick. Whatever it is trust me, I've tried everything you've mentioned including the stacked clamps, and it just put my penis in a state of trying to survive instead of grow. Even though I saw great expansion in my workouts, it would turn to fluid within 10 minutes after the session, and gains would be non-existent. I was literally looking for the wasps to sting my dick with! Anyway, Dozer is a genius, and I'm very confident that soon I, and my girlfriend if she knew why, will be thanking Dozer even more for thinking outside the box. You just remember that what works for many, just doesn't work for all....ASPIRIN man whodathunkit.
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I totaly agree with the asprin, ive been taking it loooong before this thread. About having to stop after 10 mins due to fluid buildup, I too had this problem but you can stop it by wraping the whole shaft tightly in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace[/words] wrap after your clamped then double or tripple clamp over the wrap. Then you woln't have to stop due to fluid, just stop when you feel the inside of the tunacae sore. :)
 
bIgjOe said:
Hey Dozer, at the end of the 14 days did you take a break before measuring, or are you still clamping everyday since you started? If so how long? I'm on day 5 by the way, and doing great!
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I was still clamping everyday, until I contracted a nasty stomach bug about 4 days ago. Haven't done anything since. BUT, I measured this morning and the gains are still there. Also, my flaccid has visibly improved - very happy about that.

So it seems that just because one could do this everyday doesn't mean that one should. Gains may be better if we allow recovery. I am going to now do one on and one off, but still going for 1 hour plus sessions.


hoffy200 said:
well.. i think i might have overdone my clamping even with the asprin i got some kind of pain in a vein or somthåin. I dont know if its a thrombosed though because it doenst stick out to far. It is sorta firm. I'm still gonna do my clamping. If the pain gets worse I guess Ill have to stop but otherwise It's not to painful to where I can't take it..Also I think its because I was using a hose clamp. Now im using cable clamps and it seems to be alot more gentler on my dorsal veins (where the pain is) than the metal hose clamp I was using for the first five days.. I need girth though so Im not gonna stop just because I might have a thrombosed or somthin else...
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I would leave it alone and recover. Keep taking the asprin everyday - it'll help clear out the thrombosis. BTW, you may be clamping too tight. I notice that the pressure keeps building up over the whole session - and starts causing a bit of discomfort at the clamping spot. When this happens I ease it up slightly (hence the hose clamp). I like the ability to microadjust.
 
"So it seems that just because one could do this everyday doesn't mean that one should. Gains may be better if we allow recovery. I am going to now do one on and one off, but still going for 1 hour plus sessions." -Dozer
On the contrary I think that is what makes this idea so beautiful. I always heard of people like RED, Bib, and Ulistretch just clamping like madmen to get their gains and couldn't understand why my penis just wouldn't let me do that. With your idea I can, and I think it's that constant state of expansion I can put it under now that will work for me. Going on my 7th day and very pleased still. This is a definite record for me with still being able to even get it up by now. Clamping has always been my favorite exercise.
 
bIgjOe said:
"So it seems that just because one could do this everyday doesn't mean that one should. Gains may be better if we allow recovery. I am going to now do one on and one off, but still going for 1 hour plus sessions." -Dozer
On the contrary I think that is what makes this idea so beautiful. I always heard of people like RED, Bib, and Ulistretch just clamping like madmen to get their gains and couldn't understand why my penis just wouldn't let me do that. With your idea I can, and I think it's that constant state of expansion I can put it under now that will work for me. Going on my 7th day and very pleased still. This is a definite record for me with still being able to even get it up by now. Clamping has always been my favorite exercise.
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bIgjOe, I'm glad that this is working for you. Just watch your erection quality. I reckon that it should be a good indicator of when to take a break.

BTW, for those of you who are going to attempt this in a real marathon fashion: 4 hours is considered the maximum that an erection can be safely maintained w/o damaging the dick. I wouldn't personally go close to that though - well, maybe while constricting at a lower pressure where the internal pressure is a bit less, but the bloodflow is a lot better...
 
Yeah.. I've never been able to make it past 2.5 hours without my thing going limp on me, although I wasn't on any ed supps at all either.. after that session my dick was screaming.
 
Hey DOzer, it's been about 2 weeks since your last update to this thread. WHat have your experiences been in this time? Hopefully good news?
 
supes83 said:
whatever happened with this? where did DOzer disappear to?.. and has anybody kept up with this concept and gained?
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I have gained girth with super-extended clamp sessions, but discourage the aspirin, because it will definitely slow gains. Use an IR lamp; much more effective than aspirin and doesn't hinder gains.
 
Be careful with long clamping sessions. Definitely use a heat source to keep from going cold, and don't push the intense exercises until you're ready for them. Be aware that some of the gains will be temporary swelling, so make sure you keep the routine going for a few months and don't fool yourself with post-workout measurements.
 
goldmember;220496 said:
I have gained girth with super-extended clamp sessions, but discourage the aspirin, because it will definitely slow gains. Use an IR lamp; much more effective than aspirin and doesn't hinder gains.
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Which is the problem with aspirin?
 
Just read this thread - I think I will try the aspirin trick. What happened to Dozer - guy who started the thread - he mentioned a paper he had written explaining why clamping works? Would love to read that.
 
I don't know if anyone else has had this experience but I use it to keep blood flowing during extended clamping.

At the base of my shaft closest to my pubic bone I have what I call "a sweet spot." When I apply pressure here I achieve the best constriction and expansion. If my clamp / constrictor moves even slightly down my shaft towards the head of my penis, the effect of the clamp drops offs significantly and I lose pressure but regain some blood out-flow. To maintain maximum pressure during clamping I have to constantly apply pressure to my clamp and push it towards my pubic bone. Not far, we're talking millimeters.

With this in mind I have used this "adjustment" to allow blood in-flow and out-flow during my sessions. Here is how I've done it:
  • Every few minutes I push the clamp (don't loosen it) slightly toward the head of my penis thus reducing the constrictor effect slightly.
  • Apply a few kegels to get some blood moving.
  • Now I push the clamp back towards my pubic bone to regain maximum clamped effect while doing some hard kegels to gain full expansion.
  • At full expansion I either keep kegeling to keep pushing max pressure or I do some clamped stretches, uli's, etc.
  • A few minutes later, I repeat the process.
I find that I can keep going in my routine much longer and at higher pressures with this technique.
If anyone else has experimented with this I would appreciate your feedback.
 
stillwantmore2;439266 said:
People come and go and such in the community....accept it you will!
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So true. I can count the people who have been here from the beginning. The turnover is very fast in most cases. The average user stays active for 6 months. I am not sure where they go, in many cases they make the gains they wanted and moved on.
 
Turnover;439397 said:
They go into the Twilight Zone! I think lots of forums are like this.
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Hey! I am watching the Twilight Zone right now:)
 
I think people are going, because they realize how much time they spend here - [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is addictive :). It's ironic, but even if this place has taught us the best methods, it simultaneously consumes a lot of time which could be used to actually do Penis Enlargement. Instead of reading old threads or posting new ones (which can take up to 30 min-1 hour easy) you could do an entire Penis Enlargement session. In future I will see this place as a reference rather than an active community, because I've literally lost so much time on here which I could've spent for Penis Enlargement. All of my gains were made when I wasn't obsessed with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]/Thunders, but on the other hand, I applied only the methods which I learned from there. Right at this moment I could have done a mini girth session or length session instead of posting, it's diabolic xD.
 
Lazyhanger - good point but there is nothing to stop you from using an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], or clamp, pump etc whilst you are sitting there reading the site!
 
All seated time should be used for pe! If you are sitting for hours a day that is hours you could be putting into the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words], LazyAss Stretches, whatever! Penis Enlargement is about using time wisely. When I used to work at my family business I spent every day, all day, doing Penis Enlargement...extending, hanging, lazy ass stretches, made no difference as long as I was getting it in.
 
well there is an alternative to the aspirin that I've looked up which is called white willow bark ever since I've read the effects that aspirin has the stomach I've been searching the web to see if there was alternative white willow bark is one of them I'll try it out when I get the cash to do so trying to study for the pharmacy tech exam so I can fund some stuff for Penis Enlargement wish me luck pplz peace
 
Pentoxifylline increases the elasticity of haemoglobin (oxygen carrier in blood). This results in increases blood flow. I used it before with viagra while clamping and doing ulis. I might give it a try again, this time with asprin and see what effects it has.
 
great thread found it through google..
I guess they guy gained and left using his thick cock now.

Im doing something similar since 2 days and the expansion is great.

Im having a light constrictor all day on.
Every 30 minutes I have an erection.(some stimulation is enough with the cosntrictor on)
then after kegeling some blood in I clamp the erection slowly of with a torniquet(this medical strap).
I do it over like 4-6 minutes at most and kegel all the time until the strap is so clamped that a kegel doesnt push anything in anymore.
Then I loosen it slowly over a minute while stimulating and kegeling fresh blood in.
Then I let the erection die off and repeat the same 30 minutes later.
It never gets cold and I have a bif flaccid hang without much fluid build up. Its feels much safer to slowly build the pressure up over the day rather then having 1-2 heavy 20 minute sessions.
These short sets really push the expansion over the day.
Every 4 or 6 hours(2-3 times a day) or so i will have a set similar to the OP where I will push the time a bit up to 10 minutes to gain some oxygen depletion.
After that I will pause 30 minutes and start again with the short sets.

Its great! guys with time or working from home should try this.

any ideas and comments welcome.
 
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