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D0zer

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Hi,

A post after lurking for a looooong time :P (well, I only have one previous post).

I've been reading some old threads here that speculate about ways to produce the megalophallus phenomenon. The consensus seems to be that clamping long enough to severely the stress on the tunica and to produce the physiochemical environment caused by priapism in men with sickle cell anemia would be the way to go. RED's gains from clamping is testimony enough to the potential of clamping - hell, his is nearly a megalophallus!!!

Problem is the cold-dick phenomenon that comes in as little as 10 minutes for some. I have been thinking about that and have been experimenting with possible solutions to that problem, that have helped me clamp nonstop for an hour (I am no clamping veteran)- I feel like 2 hours would be easy. And I clamp tight - I have to hold my glans to even notice that it expands a bit when I kegel.

1. Don't 'clamp and leave it alone' as is recommended by a 'clamping guru' on Thunders - I get the corpse-dick in 10 minutes using that approach. Watch adult entertainment, get your significant other to tease you while clamped, fantasize, use a fake pussy or blowup doll - whatever!!!. When I do this, my dick 'pulsates' for the duration of the session and ends up nice and warm - certainly warmer than normal. This indicates a decent amount of bloodflow (obviously in and out or the dick would explode ;)).

2. Pre-medicate with a wonder-drug about an hour before your session - a half of a lowly ASPRIN !!!! Asprin 'thins' the blood, allowing better flow, even when clamped. More important is the fact that it will not allow the clotting process to begin in a clamped penis where blood is 'pooled' - imperative if we want to maintain [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis health[/words]. It also inhibits the procuction of pro-inflammatory prostagladins, ensuring that the damage caused is of a controlled nature that and does not continue increasing in the hours after the session (obviously not ideal).

3. Hot wrap before and after. Enough said about this one!!!!

As far as duplicating conditions that induce megalophallus goes, it is known that oxygen starvation is a major factor. But that is exactly what we're trying to avoid! I personally believe that a complex cascade of biochemical reactions are triggered at a genetic level due to this oxygen starvation, which in turn causes changes in the structural matrix of the tunica, allowing it to expand. i.e. its not only the pressure on the tunicae that causes the phenomenon. So, how to induce the 'right' condition without the oxygen starvation bit?

My experiment: after my (now) 1 hour clamping session, I 'over tighten' the clamp for 3 more minutes. Nothing in, nothing out (rather uncomfortable) - dick starts going cold already. This should be enough to cause just enough oxygen starvation stimulate expression of the genes that produce the chemical factors that will temporarily change the properties of the tunicae - gene expression is triggered very very easily. A few hours later, I take advantage of the hopefully more expandable tunicae by clamping again for just five minutes at HIGH pressure by stacking clamps, clamped horses, etc.

So far, I have gained a 1/4 inch in girth and 1/8 in in length in only 2 weeks (14 days straight) using the methods above. Permanent? Who knows? Fluid buildup? Definitely not. Damaging my dick? Don't think so - harder, more veiny, more sensitive erections... BTW, my wife loves the new look! I am now being woken by her sucking the life out of my nocturnal erections!! She says it feels thicker (better) in her mouth, but she doesn't feel any difference in her pussy. (yet) rofl

Please comment on my theories - some of it is based in science - I have a PhD in biology - but most of it is sheer desperation! I started out 4BPenis EnlargementL X 4EG (at 5ft11 and 250lbs of natural muscle :(), with a completely turtled flaccid. Now, I'm nearly average (my own opinion of average), and will be taking my very first gym shower very soon rofl

Here's to fully functional megalophalli for all!! ;)

D0zer
 
Realy good one.. Could be movd to the artikel section.

My experiment: after my (now) 1 hour clamping session, I 'over tighten' the clamp for 3 more minutes. Nothing in, nothing out (rather uncomfortable) - dick starts going cold already. This should be enough to cause just enough oxygen starvation stimulate expression of the genes that produce the chemical factors that will temporarily change the properties of the tunicae - gene expression is triggered very very easily. A few hours later, I take advantage of the hopefully more expandable tunicae by clamping again for just five minutes at HIGH pressure by stacking clamps, clamped horses, etc.
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How much time after you're full 3 min clampoff do you do these 5 minutes?
 
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Dozer that is incredible and hats of to you man for such experimenting and going against the grain so to speak.
You've learned me somethings, well made me smell whats cooking because I will now start takeing one aspirin before my clamp sessions, I never did but now I will.
Your theory makes sense, but I aint a clue about biology like you do so I can't fully understand it with regards to why and the ins and outs of the bodys complex systems but I can kinda understand why something like you describe would happen.
I will have to try it sometime, abd also would you be willing to allow me to add this into the next [when the fuck that will be is only gods guess] guide which I write each year. Clamping is something that is now thankfully being excepted as real useful powerful NPenis Enlargement and its simple and very effective. Hopefully others would or will be willing to try the experiment you have done and see if it happens to the same positive extent, I cant see it being negative.
 
Amazing post! I wouldn't have thought about aspirin use. Personally, you have the background I wish we had more of in the Penis Enlargement field.

I'm working solely on length, right now, but when I get back to adding girth, I will definitely be applying your thoughts.
 
Outstanding post! This seriously makes me want to break out the cockring tonight. That thing's been neglected for far too long.

Hopefully you'll quit lurking and start posting like this more!
 
I'd like you to further explain the "gene expression" concept, it sounds too simple and I would think this to be very a complex subject.
 
Doing squeezes or jelqs while clamped is not only more intense and effective, but also pumps fresh blood in. I agree 100%. I've done the 'extreme ulis' where you clamp off tight and don't do anything, and it definitely starts to feel cold sooner.
 
Wouldn't caffeine have the same effect of thinning blood as asprin? Also I thought thinning blood would have an adverse effect on blood flow to the penis when clamping? Just need to clear up some stuff i've read here before from other posts.. Thanks.
 
hopful said:
How much time after you're full 3 min clampoff do you do these 5 minutes?
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About 2 hours. My theory is that the enzymes and metabolites that have been produced in response to the imposed stress will have had enough time to subtly change the molecular structure of the tunicae (and the penis in general) - and thus be more permanently 'malleable'. The hope (it is only a theory at this stage) is also that the body will accomodate for the demands of the second clamping by increasing penis volume. The increased volume would prepare for the eventuality that the same erection level (body doesn't know that its a 'fake erection') is again encountered in the future.

REDZULU2003 said:
Your theory makes sense, but I aint a clue about biology like you do so I can't fully understand it with regards to why and the ins and outs of the bodys complex systems but I can kinda understand why something like you describe would happen.
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I am grateful for guys like you - you have really put your dick on the line with your constrictor work! I hope some of the explanations I provide here helps clear up for you that which is still a bit muddled in my own head :s

9cyclops9 said:
Hopefully you'll quit lurking and start posting like this more!
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And I am hopeful that I can report some real and permanent progress myself. I gain muscle doing cardio!! but Penis Enlargement gains for me are very slow. BULLDOZER with a small dick <:(


Chi said:
I'd like you to further explain the "gene expression" concept, it sounds too simple and I would think this to be very a complex subject.
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In summary, when the protein products encoded by a gene are needed, the gene is 'switched on' -> gene expression. These can be structural proteins like collagen, or enzymes like collagenases which break down collagen, and even proteins that cause expression of other proteins! So, someone training high in the Alps will have more red-blood cells that have more haemoglobin, which is the end result of a series of gene expression events. The expression needs to be triggered by a biological necessity though, which is what I'm trying to provide here i.e. a need to let the penis grow bigger - ADAPT or DIE, so to speak!! And that adaptation is through a complex series of gene expression events of many genes, none which has yet been studied for Penis Enlargement of course ;)

TimBo755 said:
Wouldn't caffeine have the same effect of thinning blood as asprin? Also I thought thinning blood would have an adverse effect on blood flow to the penis when clamping? Just need to clear up some stuff i've read here before from other posts.
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Caffeine subtly increases blood pressure, which theoretically will improve blood flow to the penis (and everywhere else). WRT asprin, think of how much easier it is to drink water through a straw than a double-thick milkshake through that same straw :) Also, asprin makes platelets, which initiate blood clotting, less sticky - so its extra insurance that we don't cause deposition of a clot in the penis when we do uninterrupted marathon clamping sessions.

Thanks for all the input guys. I hope that these theories turn into positive results for many people. After years of humiliation, 'average' for me will make me feel like Mandingo. But the prospect of a real megalodick!!! Aaaah, brings tears to my eyes...
 
Dud, I gave up clamping after an injury at the end of last year. But I'm thinking about it and I might be willing to try out you're theory. I'll tell ya tomorrow how I'm going to go about it or if I'm goingto do it.

I'm a realy bad girth gainer and i would try out you're theory for a time period of 3 months or something in that direction. Then we culd see if this theory is going somewhere.

Is it halmful to take lets say 1/4 aspirin every day over a time of 90 days?
 
Excellent post DOzer, well done!!Have you ever tried Papaverine in your experiment??What is your view on the use of this drug in Penis Enlargement??Perhaps it could be stacked with the asprin?

Papaverine is in a class of drugs called vasodilators. Papaverine relaxes veins and arteries, which makes them wider and allows blood to pass through them more easily.

Girthius
 
Great posts Dozer. Really interesting. I've been doing pretty intense clamping sessions for the past year or so although I have neglected my girth routine recently. I think that clamping is an excellent way of gaining girth and along with [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s and clamped [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s it's what I focus on when it comes to girth.
 
What would happen if you did stacks of caffiene and asprin or any other substance that raised your blood pressure? I'm trying to figure out what would be the best for expansion, I tried it out last night with asprin and you made me a believer already. Great post.
 
I had to look up the definition. In any case this is what I came across. Maybe it will help us newbies idf someone can break this down in laymans terms.

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Megalophallus as a sequela of priapism in sickle cell anemia: use of blood oxygen level-dependent magnetic resonance imaging.

Kassim AA, Umans H, Nagel RL, Fabry ME.

Department of Medicine (Division of Hematology), Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Montefiore Medical Center, Bronx, New York 10461, USA.

Priapism is a common complication of sickle cell anemia. We report a little known sequela of priapism: painless megalophallus, with significant penile enlargement. The patient had had an intense episode of priapism 9 years previously and his penis remained enlarged. Blood oxygen level-dependent magnetic resonance imaging revealed enlarged, hypoxic corpora cavernosa. Megalophallus probably resulted from permanent loss of elasticity of the tunica albuginea due to severe engorgement during the episode of priapism. This sequela needs to be recognized by physicians because no intervention is necessary and sexual function seems to remain intact.[/QUOTE]
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I had to look up the definition. In any case this is what I came across. Maybe it will help us newbies idf someone can break this down in laymans terms.

link

Megalophallus as a sequela of priapism in sickle cell anemia: use of blood oxygen level-dependent magnetic resonance imaging.

Kassim AA, Umans H, Nagel RL, Fabry ME.

Department of Medicine (Division of Hematology), Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Montefiore Medical Center, Bronx, New York 10461, USA.

Priapism is a common complication of sickle cell anemia. We report a little known sequela of priapism: painless megalophallus, with significant penile enlargement. The patient had had an intense episode of priapism 9 years previously and his penis remained enlarged. Blood oxygen level-dependent magnetic resonance imaging revealed enlarged, hypoxic corpora cavernosa. Megalophallus probably resulted from permanent loss of elasticity of the tunica albuginea due to severe engorgement during the episode of priapism. This sequela needs to be recognized by physicians because no intervention is necessary and sexual function seems to remain intact.
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Laymens terms= The priapism knocked the hell out of the tunica and weakened it allowing the CC's to further expand. That's what I get out of it anyhow.
 
TimBo755 said:
What would happen if you did stacks of caffiene and asprin or any other substance that raised your blood pressure? I'm trying to figure out what would be the best for expansion, I tried it out last night with asprin and you made me a believer already. Great post.
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Did you only use the asperin for your girth session, or for length, too? If the latter, how did it affect things?
 
Haven't tried it with length, to be honest, I really never needed much to gain length. Girth is a different story, I'm looking for anything that can help me.
 
TimBo755 said:
Haven't tried it with length, to be honest, I really never needed much to gain length. Girth is a different story, I'm looking for anything that can help me.
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Fair enough. I'll test it out myself tomorrow, presuming I can find a pill splitter around the house. All I've got in the way of aspirin at the moment is Bufferin. Maybe the thinner blood won't pool so much in my glans while I hang.
 
So, to summarize:
  1. Keep the blood flowing
  2. Keep the blood thin
  3. Keep the blood warm
You can't get any better- or simpler advice, for that matter- on constriction than that. Red, this should definitely be added to the manual. And you can bet your ass I'm gonna followup on the Aspirin tip. We all should and then report back in a couple of months on whether it made a difference or not.
D0zer said:
Hi,

A post after lurking for a looooong time :P (well, I only have one previous post).

I've been reading some old threads here that speculate about ways to produce the megalophallus phenomenon. The consensus seems to be that clamping long enough to severely the stress on the tunica and to produce the physiochemical environment caused by priapism in men with sickle cell anemia would be the way to go. RED's gains from clamping is testimony enough to the potential of clamping - hell, his is nearly a megalophallus!!!

Problem is the cold-dick phenomenon that comes in as little as 10 minutes for some. I have been thinking about that and have been experimenting with possible solutions to that problem, that have helped me clamp nonstop for an hour (I am no clamping veteran)- I feel like 2 hours would be easy. And I clamp tight - I have to hold my glans to even notice that it expands a bit when I kegel.

1. Don't 'clamp and leave it alone' as is recommended by a 'clamping guru' on Thunders - I get the corpse-dick in 10 minutes using that approach. Watch adult entertainment, get your significant other to tease you while clamped, fantasize, use a fake pussy or blowup doll - whatever!!!. When I do this, my dick 'pulsates' for the duration of the session and ends up nice and warm - certainly warmer than normal. This indicates a decent amount of bloodflow (obviously in and out or the dick would explode ;)).

2. Pre-medicate with a wonder-drug about an hour before your session - a half of a lowly ASPRIN !!!! Asprin 'thins' the blood, allowing better flow, even when clamped. More important is the fact that it will not allow the clotting process to begin in a clamped penis where blood is 'pooled' - imperative if we want to maintain [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis health[/words]. It also inhibits the procuction of pro-inflammatory prostagladins, ensuring that the damage caused is of a controlled nature that and does not continue increasing in the hours after the session (obviously not ideal).

3. Hot wrap before and after. Enough said about this one!!!!

As far as duplicating conditions that induce megalophallus goes, it is known that oxygen starvation is a major factor. But that is exactly what we're trying to avoid! I personally believe that a complex cascade of biochemical reactions are triggered at a genetic level due to this oxygen starvation, which in turn causes changes in the structural matrix of the tunica, allowing it to expand. i.e. its not only the pressure on the tunicae that causes the phenomenon. So, how to induce the 'right' condition without the oxygen starvation bit?

My experiment: after my (now) 1 hour clamping session, I 'over tighten' the clamp for 3 more minutes. Nothing in, nothing out (rather uncomfortable) - dick starts going cold already. This should be enough to cause just enough oxygen starvation stimulate expression of the genes that produce the chemical factors that will temporarily change the properties of the tunicae - gene expression is triggered very very easily. A few hours later, I take advantage of the hopefully more expandable tunicae by clamping again for just five minutes at HIGH pressure by stacking clamps, clamped horses, etc.

So far, I have gained a 1/4 inch in girth and 1/8 in in length in only 2 weeks (14 days straight) using the methods above. Permanent? Who knows? Fluid buildup? Definitely not. Damaging my dick? Don't think so - harder, more veiny, more sensitive erections... BTW, my wife loves the new look! I am now being woken by her sucking the life out of my nocturnal erections!! She says it feels thicker (better) in her mouth, but she doesn't feel any difference in her pussy. (yet) rofl

Please comment on my theories - some of it is based in science - I have a PhD in biology - but most of it is sheer desperation! I started out 4BPenis EnlargementL X 4EG (at 5ft11 and 250lbs of natural muscle :(), with a completely turtled flaccid. Now, I'm nearly average (my own opinion of average), and will be taking my very first gym shower very soon rofl

Here's to fully functional megalophalli for all!! ;)

D0zer
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Mr. Nine said:
Laymens terms= The priapism knocked the hell out of the tunica and weakened it allowing the CC's to further expand. That's what I get out of it anyhow.
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but then to produce this artificially wouldn't one HAVE to use a product like viagra? I know after I've really knocked the hell out of my tunica i.e. 1 in. expansion in the clamp, extreme fluid buildup, almost purple discoloration. I would be hard pressed to get a good erection for at least24 hours, and my gains after 8 months have been very poor. I think that this is because the tunica is repairing itself of the damage instead of allowing itself to expand. I think viagra or cialis is a necessity for this to actually work.
 
Girthius said:
Excellent post DOzer, well done!!Have you ever tried Papaverine in your experiment??What is your view on the use of this drug in Penis Enlargement??Perhaps it could be stacked with the asprin?
Girthius
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I am trying to come up with a 'cheap bastard's' (or 'poor bastard's') way of conning the body into producing the right chemicals that'll produce the same effects as papaverine and related drugs. I have now opened up a can of worms that I just have to research in the scientific literature (to satisfy my enquiring mind rofl ), and preliminary findings indicate that I am exactly on the right track. Gimme a few days and I'll have a proposal for why this approach is working for me - and possible improvements. It'll be scientifically-based, but written in laymen's lingo as much as possible.


bIgjOe, your concerns are exactly what I am addressing with the asprin and the "don't just leave it alone" approach.
 
BTW, apologies for the delays in replying. I am over in South Africa and don't have convinient internet access at home.
 
i agree, being a surgical assistant with alot of vascular surgical exp. but i took it to another level. i edged for approx 20 min. needless to say, my girth balloned to over 7"!if anyone else tries this, let me know your results.
 
I just read this post and have two comments/questions for DOzer:

1.) Aspirin causes suppression of the inflammatory prostaglandins, but I have read that anti-inflammatories HINDER Penis Enlargement gains. How would you argue against that?

2.) Priapism (don't know much about it except this:
sickle-cell anemia-->priapism-->megalophallus
COULD THIS EXPLAIN WHY THERE ARE MANY LARGE BLACK Penis EnlargementNISES? They say the average is nearly the same for all races (which I believe, if by average you mean the 'mode') but there is no question that the biggest of the biggest in adult entertainment all belong to blacks. Could this be because of the sickle-cell gene?
 
some superb points being raised in this thread, its like the old days with good interesting topics floating about on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] once more.
I will now start takeing the aspirin, X1 3OOmg before each session and report back how it goes with my log updates which need doing ASAP.
 
I do not have a PHD in biology, but I do not see how almost depriving your penis of oxygen will trigger genes that will make it larger. Perhaps it is trapping blood enriched with hormones that is doing the job. I do something similar to clamping. I have been ACEstrapping over a year. I have trained my dick to stay wrapped in an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE bandage[/words] about eight hours at a time. When I started I could not even keep it on for 15 minutes without it turning blue. I worked up to this eight hour level gradually. At the end of the day, I take it off and it is still warm. In fact, sometime I forget I am wearing one. I wear over size pants so no one knows I have it one. Now I think my dick was simply been trained to survive in the confinement. My flaccid size is now between 4.5 to 5.5 itches. And I have larger veins. But my wife still does not like sucking it. She never has and never will. (To think, I dumped a woman who loved sucking my dick because she could fit it all in her mouth. Those were her words. After hearing that I rarely enjoyed sex with her. I kept thinking -- damn I have a small dick. Maybe her mouth was just big or she had excellent control of her gag reflex.)
I have not notice any gains to my erected size, so I assume, all I have accomplished is programmed my dick to hold more blood in the flaccid state. Also, I alternate how I pull the skin while wrapping it. I have definitely stretched the skin by [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] strapping. I see more folds in the skin. I like to think I genetically made my dick bigger, but I suspect it is less profound than that.
 
hey, I just tried ur technique. I've never clamped before and after about 10 minutes or so my dick started to get a lil cold. after about 20 minutes i started to see a buildup of fluid i think on my left side of the shaft under the glands.. I stopped after like thirty minutes or so. Is this normal for the first few times or somthin. I want to be able to clamp for as long as you without it going cold and fluid buildup. It doesnt hurt or anything. any advice on what I maybe should do differently? Thanks.
 
goldmember said:
I just read this post and have two comments/questions for DOzer:

1.) Aspirin causes suppression of the inflammatory prostaglandins, but I have read that anti-inflammatories HINDER Penis Enlargement gains. How would you argue against that?

2.) Priapism (don't know much about it except this:
sickle-cell anemia-->priapism-->megalophallus
COULD THIS EXPLAIN WHY THERE ARE MANY LARGE BLACK Penis EnlargementNISES?
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1. With 'normal' Penis Enlargement, could be that gains are hindered - those are still just observations and not necessarily fact. However, I am trying to gain something else by giving up the production of inflammatory prostagladins (which themselves cause tissue remodelling) -> and that is the ability to clamp long. Thus putting the tunicae under an unnatural amount of stress for a looooong time. WITHOUT killing my penis! My theory (just a theory, not gospel) is that asprin will help me do just that. So far, it has. My own experience is a 50 minute INCREASE (500%) in the time I can spend clamped - and easily too. Just as an aside: 'hypoxic' (low-oxygen) conditions cause the production of nitric oxide and endothelin-1 at a GENETIC level. But more on that when I post a hypothesis based on published scientific material.

2. I really can't say, but it IS possible.

bIgjOe said:
Dozer, did you take half a tablet of aspirin every day during those two weeks?
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Yes I did.

fallguy said:
I do not have a PHD in biology, but I do not see how almost depriving your penis of oxygen will trigger genes that will make it larger. Perhaps it is trapping blood enriched with hormones that is doing the job.
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I like to think I genetically made my dick bigger, but I suspect it is less profound than that.
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The first bit is probably spot on. It is what i'm trying to do.

The Bulgarians have a saying, which may sound really simple, but still true in practice: "THE BODY BECOMES ITS FUNCTION". Most Western cultures preach something similar, but rarely practice it: "THAT WHICH DOES NOT KILL YOU MAKES YOU STRONGER". It is the HOW that's important here, and the bottom line is NO adaptation occurs without something happening at the genetic level. THAT is gospel. I'm not talking genetic modification here, but genetic programming.

And just to add some weight to my theory, a recent study confirmed the findings of many previous ones:

Cell Biochem Biophys. 2005;43(3):439-50. Related Articles, Links
Click here to read
Cytoskeletal regulation of nitric oxide synthase.

Su Y, Kondrikov D, Block ER.

Department of Medicine, MSB M452, Box 100225, University of Florida, 1600 S.W. Archer Road, Gainesville, [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FL[/words] 32610.

The three isoforms of nitric oxide synthase (NOS) endothelial NOS (eNOS), inducible NOS (iNOS), and neural NOS (nNOS) colocalize with the cytoskeleton including actin microfilaments, microtubules, and intermediate filaments directly or indirectly. These colocalizations enable optimal nitric oxide production and help NOS exert their functions. The reorganization of cytoskeletal polymerization state induced by extracellular stimuli such as shear stress, hypoxia, and drugs regulates eNOS, nNOS, and iNOS. Alterations of nitric oxide production caused by cytoskeletal reorganization play an important role in physiological and pathophysiological conditions. This review focuses on recent data regarding the regulation of NOS by the cytoskeleton at transcriptional, posttranscriptional, and posttranslational levels.


hoffy200 said:
hey, I just tried ur technique. I've never clamped before and after about 10 minutes or so my dick started to get a lil cold. after about 20 minutes i started to see a buildup of fluid i think on my left side of the shaft under the glands.. I stopped after like thirty minutes or so. Is this normal for the first few times or somthin. I want to be able to clamp for as long as you without it going cold and fluid buildup. It doesnt hurt or anything. any advice on what I maybe should do differently? Thanks.
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Did you warm up beforehand? Did you take the asprin? And did you stay sexually aroused (ultra-important) throughout your session? Those were the main factors for me.

BTW, it seems that my theory may hold some water, but that I am doing things the wrong way around. Since low oxygen causes production of nitric oxide and endothelin, which increases the ability of vessels and penile tissue to expand (not the tunicae, that I know of though :( ), this could be a better order to do things in:

1. premedicate with asprin
2. warmup an hour later
3. clamp for five minutes until very engorged
4. do the 3min total clampoff
5. relax clamp, but keep in place (lower pressure than normal clamping) for 15 minutes (try to stay aroused)
6. Clamp at normal pressure for extended period - expansion should be better than the first clamping stint due to the action of the substances that improve blood vessel and penis flexibility

I'm glad that there are sceptics - keeps me thinking - if no-one wants to try the modified version, its OK. I will do it for 2 weeks and report back rofl
 
Ive been clamping on and off for a while now and definlity see its merits. I have one problem tho, I ALWAYS GO SOFT WHILE CLAMPING!!

I can't stay in the clamp for more than 5 mins at a time cuz I always end up starting to go soft. I still stay nice and chubby/full, but I seem to instantly being to soften up after clamping down. WTF is going on and how can I stop this???? I watch adult entertainment while doing girth work and I don't have any type of ED.
 
OK, I think it is about time someone says this:

NEWBIES DON´T ATTEMP THIS!!!

You need to train your penis first to endure this without injury! The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie routine[/words] does just that if done properly. Stick with it for -at least- 2 months and you´ll see the gains come during and after that, trust me on this one, Penis Enlargement is a long process and you need to build the foundations to be succesfull.


...I think a lot of injury threads are about to hit us, please newbies be carefull, and veterans please help in guiding them.
 
D0zer said:
1. With 'normal' Penis Enlargement, could be that gains are hindered - those are still just observations and not necessarily fact. However, I am trying to gain something else by giving up the production of inflammatory prostagladins (which themselves cause tissue remodelling) -> and that is the ability to clamp long. Thus putting the tunicae under an unnatural amount of stress for a looooong time. WITHOUT killing my penis! My theory (just a theory, not gospel) is that asprin will help me do just that. So far, it has. My own experience is a 50 minute INCREASE (500%) in the time I can spend clamped - and easily too. Just as an aside: 'hypoxic' (low-oxygen) conditions cause the production of nitric oxide and endothelin-1 at a GENETIC level. But more on that when I post a hypothesis based on published scientific material.

2. I really can't say, but it IS possible.



Yes I did.



The first bit is probably spot on. It is what i'm trying to do.

The Bulgarians have a saying, which may sound really simple, but still true in practice: "THE BODY BECOMES ITS FUNCTION". Most Western cultures preach something similar, but rarely practice it: "THAT WHICH DOES NOT KILL YOU MAKES YOU STRONGER". It is the HOW that's important here, and the bottom line is NO adaptation occurs without something happening at the genetic level. THAT is gospel. I'm not talking genetic modification here, but genetic programming.

And just to add some weight to my theory, a recent study confirmed the findings of many previous ones:

Cell Biochem Biophys. 2005;43(3):439-50. Related Articles, Links
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Cytoskeletal regulation of nitric oxide synthase.

Su Y, Kondrikov D, Block ER.

Department of Medicine, MSB M452, Box 100225, University of Florida, 1600 S.W. Archer Road, Gainesville, [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]FL[/words] 32610.

The three isoforms of nitric oxide synthase (NOS) endothelial NOS (eNOS), inducible NOS (iNOS), and neural NOS (nNOS) colocalize with the cytoskeleton including actin microfilaments, microtubules, and intermediate filaments directly or indirectly. These colocalizations enable optimal nitric oxide production and help NOS exert their functions. The reorganization of cytoskeletal polymerization state induced by extracellular stimuli such as shear stress, hypoxia, and drugs regulates eNOS, nNOS, and iNOS. Alterations of nitric oxide production caused by cytoskeletal reorganization play an important role in physiological and pathophysiological conditions. This review focuses on recent data regarding the regulation of NOS by the cytoskeleton at transcriptional, posttranscriptional, and posttranslational levels.




Did you warm up beforehand? Did you take the asprin? And did you stay sexually aroused (ultra-important) throughout your session? Those were the main factors for me.

BTW, it seems that my theory may hold some water, but that I am doing things the wrong way around. Since low oxygen causes production of nitric oxide and endothelin, which increases the ability of vessels and penile tissue to expand (not the tunicae, that I know of though :( ), this could be a better order to do things in:

1. premedicate with asprin
2. warmup an hour later
3. clamp for five minutes until very engorged
4. do the 3min total clampoff
5. relax clamp, but keep in place (lower pressure than normal clamping) for 15 minutes (try to stay aroused)
6. Clamp at normal pressure for extended period - expansion should be better than the first clamping stint due to the action of the substances that improve blood vessel and penis flexibility

I'm glad that there are sceptics - keeps me thinking - if no-one wants to try the modified version, its OK. I will do it for 2 weeks and report back rofl
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Ok first let me say that I can tell you will be a great addition of knowledge to this site. Secondly I have two questions, isn't nitric oxide in the body a vaso-dialator or am I mistaken? If so this would explain some of the expansion i would think. Also, and I think this will be my last question regarding this, how tight do you consider:a.) loose b.) normal c.) tight on your cable clamp? For point of reference just answer in terms of how many ridges are showing or how many times the clamp clicks to get to that point. I think your girth is around the same as alot of guys here and it won't really vary that much until they get around 6 in. erect girth or so as far as what they consider loose, normal, and tight.
 
Newbies dont attempt this unless you have a cock suicide in mind....be warned its something that needs to be WORKED TO SLOWLY with months and years of practice, honestly its dangerous if rushed. Don't moan if you hurt yourselves because this is intense stuff and I only now say those who have pe'ed for over 6 months consistent even attempt clamping and even than have extreme caution and be vigilant.

Lastly, DOzer thanks for that mini routine I will try it sometime

1. premedicate with asprin
2. warmup an hour later
3. clamp for five minutes until very engorged
4. do the 3min total clampoff
5. relax clamp, but keep in place (lower pressure than normal clamping) for 15 minutes (try to stay aroused)
6. Clamp at normal pressure for extended period - expansion should be better than the first clamping stint due to the action of the substances that improve blood vessel and penis flexibility
 
Sounds interesting.

Although I wouldn't get as hyped up as everyone is here. Every so often someone comes along with their magic formula for gains, that looks very creative and 'cool' on paper, but hasn't really produced much gains to warrant the hype. Coincedentally they all seem to work the "megalophallus" idea in there somewhere .

Supra was great at that.. man that guy had this forum whipped up in a frenzy like no other. Even made some good coin off it too, but I won't get into that anymore.
 
REDZULU2003 said:
1. premedicate with asprin
2. warmup an hour later
3. clamp for five minutes until very engorged
4. do the 3min total clampoff
5. relax clamp, but keep in place (lower pressure than normal clamping) for 15 minutes (try to stay aroused)
6. Clamp at normal pressure for extended period - expansion should be better than the first clamping stint due to the action of the substances that improve blood vessel and penis flexibility
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I think you've got it backwards. Take aspirin, warm up, clamp for an extended session, over-tighten for 3 minutes, then remove the clamp. A few hours later, clamp at very high intensity using squeezes, etc for 5 minutes.
 
9cyclops9 said:
I think you've got it backwards. Take aspirin, warm up, clamp for an extended session, over-tighten for 3 minutes, then remove the clamp. A few hours later, clamp at very high intensity using squeezes, etc for 5 minutes.
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Cy,

You missed the post D0zer had on the second page. You are right, what you quoted was his original workout (for two weeks) but he is trying a new workout (which RED quoted) and is going to report back on the gains in two weeks.
 
TimBo755 said:
Wouldn't caffeine have the same effect of thinning blood as asprin? Also I thought thinning blood would have an adverse effect on blood flow to the penis when clamping? Just need to clear up some stuff i've read here before from other posts.. Thanks.
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I dont think that caffeine is a good idea considering it's vasoconstrictive properties as well as it's ability to increase catecholamine production which can lead to more vasoconstriction!
I think a combination of aspirin,injectable B12,sildenafil or preffered PDE5 inhibitor and Hard core clamping sessions would rock for girth! :rocker:
 
goldmember said:
Cy,

You missed the post D0zer had on the second page. You are right, what you quoted was his original workout (for two weeks) but he is trying a new workout (which RED quoted) and is going to report back on the gains in two weeks.
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Whoops. :blush: My bad.
 
Anaconda said:
I think a combination of aspirin,injectable B12,sildenafil or preffered PDE5 inhibitor and Hard core clamping sessions would rock for girth! :rocker:
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A few questions: why injectable B12 over oral, and what's a preffered PDE5 inhibitor?
 
Anaconda said:
I dont think that caffeine is a good idea considering it's vasoconstrictive properties as well as it's ability to increase catecholamine production which can lead to more vasoconstriction!
I think a combination of aspirin,injectable B12,sildenafil or preffered PDE5 inhibitor and Hard core clamping sessions would rock for girth! :rocker:
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Good to know, thanks for giving me some insight on that.
 
bIgjOe said:
Ok first let me say that I can tell you will be a great addition of knowledge to this site. Secondly I have two questions, isn't nitric oxide in the body a vaso-dialator or am I mistaken? If so this would explain some of the expansion i would think. Also, and I think this will be my last question regarding this, how tight do you consider:a.) loose b.) normal c.) tight on your cable clamp? For point of reference just answer in terms of how many ridges are showing or how many times the clamp clicks to get to that point. I think your girth is around the same as alot of guys here and it won't really vary that much until they get around 6 in. erect girth or so as far as what they consider loose, normal, and tight.
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You're right about nitric oxide! It is one of the main players in increasing blood flow to a tissue that needs it. There is a LOT of evidence that vascular occlusion increases the production of NO not only by the nerves in the hypoxic area and walls of the blood vessels themselves, but also by the red blood cells that has given up all their oxygen.

About the clamp - I use a hose clamp (intentionally) so that I can micro-adjust the pressure. For me, I clamp to the point where it feels slightly uncomfortable, but I can still feel expansion of the glans with my hand when I kegel. For the complete clampoff, I tighten to the point where I can't feel this kegel response. I think that its important to state that everyone will have to find their own "comfort zone" or better said, safety zone. As we obsessed Penis Enlargement'ers know already there is no one size fits all in this 'business' :)

REDZULU2003 said:
Newbies dont attempt this unless you have a cock suicide in mind....be warned its something that needs to be WORKED TO SLOWLY with months and years of practice, honestly its dangerous if rushed. Don't moan if you hurt yourselves because this is intense stuff and I only now say those who have pe'ed for over 6 months consistent even attempt clamping and even than have extreme caution and be vigilant.

Lastly, DOzer thanks for that mini routine I will try it sometime
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RED, thanks for saying this - people here respect you for your experience and knowledge. As for the mini-routine, its just a theory, but could yield some great gains - time will tell. And, no need to thank me - I am eternally grateful for guys like you and DLD!

quijjiboo said:
Sounds interesting.

Although I wouldn't get as hyped up as everyone is here. Every so often someone comes along with their magic formula for gains, that looks very creative and 'cool' on paper, but hasn't really produced much gains to warrant the hype. Coincedentally they all seem to work the "megalophallus" idea in there somewhere .
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I would prefer it if people don't get hyped!!! Would ensure that we have less injuries from people clamping at 100% engorgement for eight hours while asleep for example... As far as the megalophallus idea goes - I don't think anyone here would want that by its medial definition. MOST OF THEM DON'T WORK i.e. no boners!!!! I am trying to figure out if there's anything that happens during the priapism that actually cause the megalophallus phenomenon, from a biological point of view, that we could safely exploit to get some of the 'gains' that those poor guys get. SAFETY is my main concern. I LOVE SEX TOO MUCH TO WANT TO FUCK UP MY DICK. (and my wife is a nympho too ;) - I need to be able to get it up on demand - not that I'm complaining rofl )

quijjiboo said:
Supra was great at that.. man that guy had this forum whipped up in a frenzy like no other. Even made some good coin off it too, but I won't get into that anymore.
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I'm not selling anything. I just want a big dick. And if I can find some magic bullet while trying, then great - everyone will have free access to that information. As far as Supra goes, he has given a LOT of information away for free here - I have the erection quality of a highly-sexed virgin pubescent boy that just had his dick lightly licked by a sexy MILF who is promising to fuck him for the next 12 hours nonstop - all thanks to Supra's Slammers!!!! :P Here's to Supra!!!
 
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