V-Kay and Crew's ULI trip! a 2 month Journey

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hey guys

a couple of days back, a post by ocd in a thread outlining the original ULI routine got my attention. I have decided to use this routine, which will last a modest 10 mins AM and 10 mins PM combined with an hour of stretches at night.

If in Penis Enlargement less is truely more (as it is in bodybuilding), then our gains must testify to that. The purpose of this thread is to outline this routine, any concerns and problems about it, as well as clearing up any ambiguity for veterans and newbies alike. I MUST caution however, that this is not a routine for noobs.

Please post your experience, gains, questions, comments here, and please keep an accurate record of your measurements for comparison.


Here's the quoted text of the routine from OCD:


Jelq for 10 to 20 min then while you're still greased up with vaseline (or whatever lube you use) then squeeze your cock like this...

1. okay grip with your palm down and pinky finger in direction of the head of your cock

2. squeeze the okay grip and then

3. slide your hand a little towards the head of your cock and then

4. squeeze your ring finger for (about one second each squeeze) 5 really good squeezes then

5. switch hands and repeat

6. do 5 reps with each hand, alternating, until you get to 50



Tips on how to tell you've had a good workout and got really good expansion: there are two ways

1. it will feel like the head of your cock and the underbelly of your cock is gonna split open while you're doing a rep

2. you'll notice red dots on your head as you clean up which go away and are not a problem


You need to be between 80 to 90% erect but not 100%.
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July 4th, 2006: 6 pm

I went in the washroom, vaselined up, and did 100 jelqs, while completely flacid. I felt a good stretch while doing these and was somewhat 'hung' although not 'pumped'. I started massaging my penis from base to head to get some blood flowing in! I think the lack of adult entertainment is very good in that you're focused on ur penis and how it feels instead of on the adult entertainment.

I got around 70% errect and did another 100 jelqs, somewhat warmed up I went straight ahead to the routine.

I got as hard as I could and grabbed my base with an overhand grip (pinki towards the glans). I tightened the grip as hard as I could and pushed the blood towards the glans. Immediately I felt an amazing internal stretch in the head, border line painful! and I did one second push towards the head, back the pressure off for a bit, and then repeat for a total of 5 times. That was the first rep.

I changed hands and repeated this with the left and so on for a total of 10 reps.

right after I jumped in the shower and thorougly massaged my penis from base to head ( head to toe :P ) under warm/hot water.

I saw the red dots after about the 3rd or 4th rep!

that was it for today!
 
That's it baby!

I do a couple things different and have NO clue if it makes a difference or not and it's during the jelq.

I don't do any form of actually warming up. I just lube up and begin jelqing a soft cock. Also, I don't count strokes but go by time and erection (level) feel.

After about 2 min I begin to fantasize which increases the blood flow to the erection level I'm looking for and then I concentrate on the jelq itself for a bit. Once erection level fades and kegels aren't getting it done I then go back to the fantasizing part to get the desired erection level.

I continue this cycle for 15 to 20 min. Initially, I did exactly 10 min sessions but I personally went with the longer sessions only because of my age. I need a little more work so my erections are stronger, just the way it goes when you age. I see no need for younger guys to go 20 min sessions, twice per day, unless they want to.

VK, you squeezed the shit out of your cock didn't you? And the pain you felt, more than likely, means you are on the right track. You definitely expanded the tissues. Go for that same intensity level on your next workout and build on the last workouts efforts...remember to go by feel and backoff the pressure of a squeeze when you feel you have pushed it too much.
 
ocd,

I woke up today with a very nice woody, and I'm holding out ejaculation for at least 30 days to aid my heal time.

I did only a 10 minute session yesterday, yesterday my penis felt like it had been run over by a truck! I was soar as hell. I did my AM routine of about 100 flacid jelqs followed by 200 normal jelqs + 10 intense ULI's.

my dick is currently out of service and I can feel internal fatigue unlike I any I've felt for a LONG time! I'm not sure if i should follow up with a PM routine even though I'm soar or not?

what do you think?
 
VK,


Definitely do the PM workout! Just go by feel when you do each squeeze.


I wanted to let you guys know the 3 stages of how I knew growth was occuring so you can know where you are before I had to stop:

1. red dots...not when you first start doing this routine but after about a month to 6 weeks and you're still getting them. It's hard but with raised intensity it happens

2. after a really good workout you look down and don't recognize your own cock

3. when your woman uses the phrase "mmmmmmmmmmm" as you're having sex with her. You'll know what I'm talking about when it happens because she's noticing the growth in girth. Uli said this would happen and he nailed it. listen to her sounds.
 
ocd said:
VK,


Definitely do the PM workout! Just go by feel when you do each squeeze.


I wanted to let you guys know the 3 stages of how I knew growth was occuring so you can know where you are before I had to stop:

1. red dots...not when you first start doing this routine but after about a month to 6 weeks and you're still getting them. It's hard but with raised intensity it happens

2. after a really good workout you look down and don't recognize your own cock

3. when your woman uses the phrase "mmmmmmmmmmm" as you're having sex with her. You'll know what I'm talking about when it happens because she's noticing the growth in girth. Uli said this would happen and he nailed it. listen to her sounds.
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any internal clues about how it should feel? meaning internal feeling in the penis. What would you see?

I did get red dots during the work out but right after massaging my penis in the shower they were all but gone. what's surprising is that the routine lasts a total of 10 minutes, and yet my penis is SOOO FATIGUED!!!
I'm not doing anything else at the moment as I'm certain I would be overtraining!


I did the PM routine today as well.

another question. I did the ULI's with normal ok grip today as the overhand is a little challenging. Do you think the overhand grip is more effective?
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
1. any internal clues about how it should feel? meaning internal feeling in the penis. What would you see?

2. I did get red dots during the work out but right after massaging my penis in the shower they were all but gone. what's surprising is that the routine lasts a total of 10 minutes, and yet my penis is SOOO FATIGUED!!!
I'm not doing anything else at the moment as I'm certain I would be overtraining!

I did the PM routine today as well.

3. another question. I did the ULI's with normal ok grip today as the overhand is a little challenging. Do you think the overhand grip is more effective?
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1. I know you've been clamping and it really does create internal pressure. But Uli's create extreme pressure in the tunica and the head. When you really have everything just right and have become conditioned to doing them, Uli's feel like they are power stretching everything in your cock except the ligs.

2. crazy huh? That's because you've exposed yourself to a very high level of intensity. Just stay with this routine twice per day, and keep it intense, and you still won't overtrain. Ideally, you would train at exactly the same time each time in the morning and evenings.

3. palm down is the only way it will work unless you incorporate clamping. Due to my elbow pain, I've experimented with this and nothing actually gets results except for palm down okay grip...nothing creates the internal pressures needed.

On a side note VK, I'm done for awhile with stretching because it's killing my elbows. It's all I can do to jelq/Uli twice per day so that's all I'll concentrate on for now until the pain goes away.........fat cock here I come!
 
ocd said:
1. I know you've been clamping and it really does create internal pressure. But Uli's create extreme pressure in the tunica and the head. When you really have everything just right and have become conditioned to doing them, Uli's feel like they are power stretching everything in your cock except the ligs.

2. crazy huh? That's because you've exposed yourself to a very high level of intensity. Just stay with this routine twice per day, and keep it intense, and you still won't overtrain. Ideally, you would train at exactly the same time each time in the morning and evenings.

3. palm down is the only way it will work unless you incorporate clamping. Due to my elbow pain, I've experimented with this and nothing actually gets results except for palm down okay grip...nothing creates the internal pressures needed.

On a side note VK, I'm done for awhile with stretching because it's killing my elbows. It's all I can do to jelq/Uli twice per day so that's all I'll concentrate on for now until the pain goes away.........fat cock here I come!
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ya the intensity I get clamping is nothing compared to what I get during the ULI's. and I clamp very intense!

I'm going to have to stick with palms down then, even though it's quite uncomfortable.

I'm not doing any real stretching at the moment either. I will start in a week or so.

so you're saying no rest days?
 
I tried this out today and have to say: Goddamnit, this is a peniskiller-exercise!:O
I never thought it could be this intense and painful.
I know of this exercise for more than two years, but never thought about doing it. Me fool.

ocd: As you seem to be the only one here on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] who has experience with this exercise: Have you ever got injuries due to this? I mean it really seems to be an attempt to kill your dick. Maybe because I tried it at a 100% erection?
How much did you gain with this exercise and how long did it take?

Does anyone know how much Uli gained and how long it did take him?

V-Kay: I think the log was a great idea of you. Keep us updated and tell us if your girth exploded or your dick fell off.

May the gains be with you, guys.
 
I for one will be following this thread very closely. OCD props for hands down the best explanation of the uli i've ever read. I've always been confused about this exercise let alone routine until now.
Also it never occured to me that i could be overtraining my penis and THAT has been my trouble w/girth gaining. I would do 2 hour sessions daily with sick expansion and wonder why i wasn't gaining a milimeter. So pending your guys trial of this routine, i will be starting it when i go back to school in August, plus I'm actually gaining from my long forgotten power-jelqer that i pulled out on a whim (perhaps desperation?). I didn't like it before but now i see the beauty in it, lets say its an acquired taste of sorts. So I'm gonna ride that wave for now, but will be watching this like a hawk as i said.

VK-glad to see you back around buddy, hey if this makes you gain like its supposed to you'll hit like 7in. girth! Oowee.

OCD-I have a question about girth gaining (particularly w/ manuals) thats been buzzing around in the back of my head for awhile, and this seems like a good place to address it. a.) Do you exercise often, or at high intensity, or both? (your body not your penis) b.) After or during a workout do you notice a loss of blood or even turtling of the penis from the workout? (it was intense enough to warrant that blood being used elsewhere) c.) Do you believe it hinders gains (essentially by ruining your "pump" particularly if done within close proximity to your pe routine, or is the tissue fatigue and breakdown the only thing that matters making the "pump" inconsequential)
I figure if there was any routine that this would be a factor it would be this one. You see in the combat oriented sports you have to train at very high intensity, often in an adrenal state, and I know for me particularly that my penis likes to run and hide from the workout, so if you or anyone else has experience with this please let me know, because I would hate to have my body workouts making my Penis Enlargement routine a complete waste of time.

thanks
p.s.-great work again
 
dammmmmmmmmmmm

i just gave this a tester in the bathroom, and fuck me it is intense, feels like you head is gonna explode. excellent work ocd ;)

gonna incorpate this into my girth work.

gonna do stetches/wet jelqs -- mon/wed/fri
and do dry jelqs/ulis -- tue/thurs/sat

back to manual for me. no more clamps hangers or pumps. and see how i get on ;)
 
July 06 , 2006

I did the AM routine despite feeling fatigued. my penis was feeling the same it does after 2 hours of clamping this morning. I guess when they say you're building on top of your previous work holds true here.

I went in the washroom, did 100 flacid jelqs, another 100 with around 50-70% errect. then I got nearly 90-100% errect and started the ULI's. did 5 before my errection subsided. Started to fantasize/edge for a bit and got the errection back up, did another 5.

this time, however, I didn't notice red spots as i did before. merely small pink spots that looked like the left over of yesterday's work.

so i did another 5, thinking perhaps that the intensity wasn't high enough. still no red spots :s.


here's an addition to the routine:

after im done the ULI, i get nearly 100% errect, using an ok grip with my left hand i clamp the blood in the penis. with the right hand using the over hand (palms down pinki out) grip, i clamp my penis right beside the left hand, so that the side of the index finger of my right hand is touching the thumb of my left hand. then maintaining the left hand grip, i slide the right hand up, but as SLOWLY as can be, and just as intense as we do with the regular ULI. instead this goes all the way up the shaft just short of the glans.

I get errect again and repeat once more alternating the hands.


after these two, another 100 jelqs, as warm/cool down.

I've noticed if I stop RIGHT after intense girth work, that I will turtle back in. the 100 light jelqs will give you a good hang and relaxes the penis.

I jumped into the shower and massaged my penis thorouly under warm/hot water.

and that was it for today. (until the damn PM routine >:( )
 
bIgjOe said:
I for one will be following this thread very closely. OCD props for hands down the best explanation of the uli i've ever read. I've always been confused about this exercise let alone routine until now.
Also it never occured to me that i could be overtraining my penis and THAT has been my trouble w/girth gaining. I would do 2 hour sessions daily with sick expansion and wonder why i wasn't gaining a milimeter. So pending your guys trial of this routine, i will be starting it when i go back to school in August, plus I'm actually gaining from my long forgotten power-jelqer that i pulled out on a whim (perhaps desperation?). I didn't like it before but now i see the beauty in it, lets say its an acquired taste of sorts. So I'm gonna ride that wave for now, but will be watching this like a hawk as i said.

VK-glad to see you back around buddy, hey if this makes you gain like its supposed to you'll hit like 7in. girth! Oowee.

OCD-I have a question about girth gaining (particularly w/ manuals) thats been buzzing around in the back of my head for awhile, and this seems like a good place to address it. a.) Do you exercise often, or at high intensity, or both? (your body not your penis) b.) After or during a workout do you notice a loss of blood or even turtling of the penis from the workout? (it was intense enough to warrant that blood being used elsewhere) c.) Do you believe it hinders gains (essentially by ruining your "pump" particularly if done within close proximity to your pe routine, or is the tissue fatigue and breakdown the only thing that matters making the "pump" inconsequential)
I figure if there was any routine that this would be a factor it would be this one. You see in the combat oriented sports you have to train at very high intensity, often in an adrenal state, and I know for me particularly that my penis likes to run and hide from the workout, so if you or anyone else has experience with this please let me know, because I would hate to have my body workouts making my Penis Enlargement routine a complete waste of time.

thanks
p.s.-great work again
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hey buddy!
ya I'm glad to be back too.

I read your post about working out about 5-6 times before I understood what you were asking.

you're asking, when should we work out, so that the 'shrinkage' doesn't interfere with our Penis Enlargement routines.

Being an amature bodybuilder, I can tell you that the best time to weight train, be it for bodybuilding or power lifting or strength training, is early in the morning. however its not that practical for every1.

what I do, is I always do my Penis Enlargement last thing before I go to sleep. I work out in the morning if i can, if not around 5-6 pm. However, that shrinkage SUCKS, so what I like to do is do a 100-200 quick jelqs in the shower right after working out to deminish the turtling effect.

I personally am not sure weather having that little bit of a 'pump' will help gains unless you're a noob. We're talking about extreme stretching of penile tissue here! The tunica is being forced past its maximum elasticity and that I believe is what ultimately leads to gains. the pump, looks muchhhh better to have specially for the flacid hang, so it might mentally prop you to think its helping you gain. I truely doubt that it will have that effect.

However, things that lead to turtlling might be note worthy. For example, if you turtle back after a Penis Enlargement session, it means you've overtrained!

I think I read somewhere that if you turtle in general, it means you're low on testostrone and that it happens in men over 50 because of the testostrone crash!

Anyhow, that's irrelevent. Just my 2 cents :p


V-Kay
 
I've been combining ULI's with edging for a coupla months now and that's how my girth has literally EXPLODED, strangely; my length has jumped about a good half-inch or so in the last 3 months too. (Like somebody mentioned above; listen to your girls noises..always a reliable gauge as well as a terrific ego boost.)
One thing I've noticed about the dreaded "Turtling up" is this; if I fuck up and come during the edging I almost immediately afterwards shrivel right up to swimming-in-the-arctic-ocean proportions. I don't lose anything permanent, as far as I can tell, but I've got, like, no hang to the wang whatsoever for about a day or so.

Normally, to make the most of my workout, I use the good ol' heating pad as consistently as I can remember to. A real good ten or fifteen minutes on either end of my session seems to make a hell of a lot of difference.
Sometimes I get a little over-enthusiastic and wind up either raw or, perhaps worse, with one helluva donut from the pressure. (That's how I can tell that I've jelqed either a little too much or with too much pressure.)

Lately I've been getting more and more involved with Edgar Cayce's readings and some of the healing techniques he recommended. Because of what I've read, I've been using Castor oil packs in conjunction with the heating pads and this has helped heal me up damn quick after the occasional training injury.

If some of you guys are doing the ULI's as intensely as you possibly can and aren't doing a good thorough warm up/down then I'd highly recommend that you start, with or without the castor oil packs. I completely believe they've helped me.
 
MAXAMEYES said:
I've been combining ULI's with edging for a coupla months now and that's how my girth has literally EXPLODED, strangely; my length has jumped about a good half-inch or so in the last 3 months too. (Like somebody mentioned above; listen to your girls noises..always a reliable gauge as well as a terrific ego boost.)
One thing I've noticed about the dreaded "Turtling up" is this; if I fuck up and come during the edging I almost immediately afterwards shrivel right up to swimming-in-the-arctic-ocean proportions. I don't lose anything permanent, as far as I can tell, but I've got, like, no hang to the wang whatsoever for about a day or so.

Normally, to make the most of my workout, I use the good ol' heating pad as consistently as I can remember to. A real good ten or fifteen minutes on either end of my session seems to make a hell of a lot of difference.
Sometimes I get a little over-enthusiastic and wind up either raw or, perhaps worse, with one helluva donut from the pressure. (That's how I can tell that I've jelqed either a little too much or with too much pressure.)

Lately I've been getting more and more involved with Edgar Cayce's readings and some of the healing techniques he recommended. Because of what I've read, I've been using Castor oil packs in conjunction with the heating pads and this has helped heal me up damn quick after the occasional training injury.

If some of you guys are doing the ULI's as intensely as you possibly can and aren't doing a good thorough warm up/down then I'd highly recommend that you start, with or without the castor oil packs. I completely believe they've helped me.
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Hydromaxm caster oil packs? would you mind elaborating that? quickening recovery might be beneficial to gains in the split routine.
 
Castor Oil packs are one of those things I never would have thought of but damn do they seem to work. Just a quick background on my use; I was in a car wreck a few years ago and my neck bothered the shit outta me ever since then. Massage, chiro, drugs...all that shit helped, but were "treatment" much more than "cure". What made it worse was that I had almost died from meningitis back in '96 and that left me with crippling migraines.

Jump forward to this spring and my discovery of the Castor oil packs; I started using them on my neck and not only my neck pain, but also my migraines have, for all intents and purposes, disappeared. That, and a little more reading, convinced me that those packs would be great for just about anything; sooooo...

And here's what they are: All you need is a heating pad, some castor oil, plastic wrap and wool flannel. I don't know why the wool is so important, but it is. Strangely it can be anything from an old wool blanket, a couple of wool socks or even a suit you've decided to cut up, just so long as it's wool.

And here's what ya do: You need 4 layers of wool, CAN be more CAN'T be less (again, dunno why I just go with it). Saturate the wool with the castor oil, up to the point where you could wring it out, not quite to the point where it's dripping, and place this saturated wool on whatever part you want to treat.
Put the plastic wrap over it (Saran wrap, Ziploc bag, old shower curtain etc.) to keep the heat and oil in and then put the heating pad over that. Start off low and work your way up to high then back down to low. You can use this pack for anywhere from 20 minutes to an hour, once or twice a day.

It works on anything from ...hell, my neck to my NPenis Enlargement injuries, to arthritis, to sprained ankles to "whatever ails ya".
Here's the link for Edgar Cayces A.R.E. if you want to research s'more. Good luck !
http://www.edgarcayce.org/
 
Very interesting insight about the caster oild packs!
I'm not sure where to buy it but will hopefully get to the bottom of it soon! :p


I did my PM session last night, exactly as described before.

The AM routine today was interesting. I'm just starting to show some sort of expansion.

I must say that after a clamping session I get a very good temporary girth boost. To the point that I don't recognize my own dick sometimes. Most of that added girth is from fluid build up (I would imagine ?:( ) and goes away by the next day.

I don't get any fluid build up from this routine. I'm not sure if that's good or bad but my cock looks very lean! and not though it's not as thick as after the clamp sessions, there a couple of things that I like about it compared to clamping:

1) it takes wayyy less time to achieve the same amount of fatigue. I'd need at least 4-5 10 min sets of clamping to get the same feeling of fatigue in my penis as i do using this routine.

2) I still get rock hard errections. For some reason, clamping makes me softer and unable to get ROCK HARD!


3) I feel clamping/hanging/pumping are all GREAT Penis Enlargement exercises, but they are all do it and leave it, multi tasking operations. I've been doing alot of research into the power of the mind, and the mind/body connection. Its been proven that whereever you focus your attention is where you will develop the most nerve activity! As is in bodybuilding, when doing a bicep curl, thinking of and paying attention to your biceps and how you want it to become makes the difference between impressive arms and just barely pumped arms. Doing manuals, and this routine in particular, makes you focus on your penis. Of course you can still do manuals and have your mind somewhere else: on adult entertainment, on an issue thats bugging you or w/e. But those who chose to focus their attention on the task at hand will be rewarded the most!

V-kay
 
Here's a coupla links to buy all the supplies and products that Edgar Cayce advocated the use of. The first one is the authorized manufacturer/supplier to the ARE for the entire product line, the second is a store, local here in Va. Beach (the hometown of ARE) which carries all of the BAAR stuff as well as an entire array of other stuff for physical, mental, spiritual, psychic growth and development. Good luck with it all!

http://www.baar.com/index.shtml

http://www.caycecures.com/
 
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