ChilDsh;663531 said:
Damn jake you're long as fuck :)

I am really not trying to add length though, I just want to get to 6.5" MEG and I would back down to just maintenance P.E. but the length just keeps adding on. At this point I feel like I just look at my penis and it gets longer.

I find it interesting that some guys just naturally gain, length or girth respectively, but the other one they have to fight for. I can't stop gaining length but I have to work hard as heck to get every bit of girth I have added. Genetics or pre-disposition, or whatever, I think if we understood that better and why it could help a lot of guys too.
 
JakeM82;663549 said:
I am really not trying to add length though, I just want to get to 6.5" MEG and I would back down to just maintenance P.E. but the length just keeps adding on. At this point I feel like I just look at my penis and it gets longer.

I find it interesting that some guys just naturally gain, length or girth respectively, but the other one they have to fight for. I can't stop gaining length but I have to work hard as heck to get every bit of girth I have added. Genetics or pre-disposition, or whatever, I think if we understood that better and why it could help a lot of guys too.

seems like you can gain lenght really easy n yeah we dont know if you are gaining beacuse of genetics or pre-disposition,besides you have gained a lot because of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words].. would like to get to the size you are,you have a real 9 incher n i would like to get to that size too.Thanks for sharing n showing us that gaining is really possible.
 
JakeM82;663549 said:
I am really not trying to add length though, I just want to get to 6.5" MEG and I would back down to just maintenance P.E. but the length just keeps adding on. At this point I feel like I just look at my penis and it gets longer.

I find it interesting that some guys just naturally gain, length or girth respectively, but the other one they have to fight for. I can't stop gaining length but I have to work hard as heck to get every bit of girth I have added. Genetics or pre-disposition, or whatever, I think if we understood that better and why it could help a lot of guys too.

For me it's the other way around...i gain girth very easily,but i struggle with length gains.I started the 5x5x3 routine 4-5 days ago and i can see with the naked eye my dick is thicker,both flaccid and erect.Guess everyone is different.
 
I'm also the kind of guy that gains girth easily which is why I'm concentrating on length for now.
 
JakeM82;663549 said:
I am really not trying to add length though, I just want to get to 6.5" MEG and I would back down to just maintenance P.E. but the length just keeps adding on. At this point I feel like I just look at my penis and it gets longer.

I find it interesting that some guys just naturally gain, length or girth respectively, but the other one they have to fight for. I can't stop gaining length but I have to work hard as heck to get every bit of girth I have added. Genetics or pre-disposition, or whatever, I think if we understood that better and why it could help a lot of guys too.

That was me in the beginning of my PE. I gained length so easily but girth was so fucking stubborn. It was only after I created super-set girth workouts that I finally was able to gain a great amount of girth.
 
doublelongdaddy;663588 said:
That was me in the beginning of my PE. I gained length so easily but girth was so fucking stubborn. It was only after I created super-set girth workouts that I finally was able to gain a great amount of girth.

That's where I am for girth now, millimeter by millimeter. I am hoping the bundled [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] stretching will lead to a break through as the tunica eventually becomes more and more relaxed and allows for greater expansion, leading to eventually change in Tunica size altogether. Little by little.
 
JakeM82;663609 said:
That's where I am for girth now, millimeter by millimeter. I am hoping the bundled [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] stretching will lead to a break through as the tunica eventually becomes more and more relaxed and allows for greater expansion, leading to eventually change in Tunica size altogether. Little by little.
Oh really? I thought your bundles had destroyed the girth plateau. Wasn't that what started the rave about bundles? Maybe I remember incorrectly
 
templnite;663611 said:
Oh really? I thought your bundles had destroyed the girth plateau. Wasn't that what started the rave about bundles? Maybe I remember incorrectly

It got things moving, it was the concept of discovering long term tunica stretching using an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] that was a break through. We are still testing how this will impact girth grow for those of us who have hit plateaus. I have gone from 5.5 to 5.75 MEG in 2 months though, so I am moving steadily now. It has just been a lot of work to get to here.
 
Thanks. And DLD can you help me be able to reset my password? I can't log in through my PC cuz I forgot my password but every time I try to reset it, I never receive the recovery email. What is up with the system. I know three dudes who want to join this forum n get help but i can't if I can't even reset my password
 
Jake, I'm doing your experiment tonight. I have a chick to slay so I will be doing 15 minutes bundled stretches right after which I will do 10 X 3 pumping session with my Extreme [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words]. Let's see if I will get those great expansion you talked about.
 
huge-girth;663700 said:
Jake, I'm doing your experiment tonight. I have a chick to slay so I will be doing 15 minutes bundled stretches right after which I will do 10 X 3 pumping session with my Extreme [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words]. Let's see if I will get those great expansion you talked about.

Can't wait to hear how it works for you. You will see it have more impact the more days in a row you are consistent with the tunica stretches (or at least I did). It's like the Tunica has to loosen up for expansion.
 
Kapitan;663697 said:
Thanks. And DLD can you help me be able to reset my password? I can't log in through my PC cuz I forgot my password but every time I try to reset it, I never receive the recovery email. What is up with the system. I know three dudes who want to join this forum n get help but i can't if I can't even reset my password


I will PM you your new password.
 
So I made the jump and ordered the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] to add to my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] (a lot cheaper than the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] to make the PG), so I will call this the VLGenetics henceforth. I have been the victim of a very tight circumcision and I am looking to do some restoral in that area, but also looking to see if the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] is truly effective for bundled VLGenetics stretching.

For those of you who are [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] users, do you feel it really puts tension on the Penis? Or do you feel the tension more on your skin? Has it helped you make gains outside of foreskin restoration?
 
It seems I won't be satisfied when I get to 9inches bone pressed length. I'm saying this because Jake keeps training length even when he has surpassed 9 inches. PE is just too addictive.
 
JakeM82;666028 said:
So I made the jump and ordered the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] to add to my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] (a lot cheaper than the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] to make the PG), so I will call this the VLGenetics henceforth. I have been the victim of a very tight circumcision and I am looking to do some restoral in that area, but also looking to see if the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] is truly effective for bundled VLGenetics stretching.

For those of you who are [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] users, do you feel it really puts tension on the Penis? Or do you feel the tension more on your skin? Has it helped you make gains outside of foreskin restoration?

In my humble opinion, the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] as a combo are purely for healing extended as recommended in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]. The active stretch when the devices are used in combination is nothing compared to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] alone or the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] with the strap alone. To me lengthening is 100% about time under tension and the more tension the better, so this is a step backwards to me. I understand using this combo if strapping in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] causes pain, but if there is no pain or you can handle it, its a waste to combine these tools.

However that said, this combo to me is great if you have a mild injury and want to maintain a stretch but that's about it. I can't say whether or not this will add skin for a tight circumcision - perhaps, but I think there are other tools superior to the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] for that job on Ron Low's website. So rather than combo these I'd do one or the other if tension is your goal. I'm interested in seeing what your experience is with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] Jake. Keep us posted.
 
huge-girth;666035 said:
It seems I won't be satisfied when I get to 9inches bone pressed length. I'm saying this because Jake keeps training length even when he has surpassed 9 inches. PE is just too addictive.

This is more about healing lengthened and skin restoration, I won't be pushing the tension to the place to initiate new length growth (I hope).
 
I wish I had done that now. Length was such a bitch. Almost feel like I should try this just because of how much more effective it sounds.

The theory about weakening the tunica for girth training is pretty solid also. I may have to visit that to some degree for my own routine.

It's good to see someone working to progress the work with some solid reasoning and tenacity. Curious to see how it all plays out for you.
 
Longth;666138 said:
I wish I had done that now. Length was such a bitch. Almost feel like I should try this just because of how much more effective it sounds.

The theory about weakening the tunica for girth training is pretty solid also. I may have to visit that to some degree for my own routine.

It's good to see someone working to progress the work with some solid reasoning and tenacity. Curious to see how it all plays out for you.

Thanks brother. I will keep it updated as I go along.

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Just got my [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] in today. Using it for the first time kind of sucked, so I went back and watched the video on the website and made sure to follow it exactly how it showed and that helped a lot.

It is a very comfortable stretch, I got 2 hours in easy without having to readjust or any noticeable pain or discomfort. I will say this though, if you are like me and have a fairly tight circumcision, you are going to have to make some skin restoration gains before you make any length gains or really put stress on the tunica or ligaments. Since my first goal is to get some skin restoration this is not an issue for me, but for guys who want length gains immediately it might create an issue. Although post session the penis did feel lengthened and malleable like normal [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] use, it was not at the same intensity as most of the stretch was on the skin. I think this will be a back and forth as I make skin gains, and size gains to fill it out (who knows at this point).

I will be using the device for the next month or so and then I will report back my opinion. I am also going to look into mod ideas to work this concept into more of a full penis stretch as looking at the device, I already have some ideas on how to possibly make that happen.
 
Hey Jake, Glad your [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] arrives and you are learning it quickly. The best way I have found to gain more foreskin is a very simple exercise I perform. In a 100% erect state, starting at the base of the penis with an OK grip, now slide all skin up the shaft, over the glans and from there stretch as far as you can. Hold this for 30-60 seconds. A 15 minutes set every other day will get that skin loose in no time.
 
An updated photo in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X40[/words] just for the heck of it. I started adding a silicone sleeve trimmed to fit the area where I get the most fluid retention on my higher pressure pumping sessions. I have found it to be very effective at reducing FR for targeted areas. I am just about 95% of max pressure in these pics, on my 3rd round in my 5x3, so my pump is pretty good at this point.


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